I'VE put up my top scorer tips and touched on my choice as winner and runners-up.
There are loads of antepost betting opportunities and of course one punters will focus on is group betting.
For many teams it will be vital to finish top to avoid a tougher last-16 draw. It won't always work out that way though.
One of the first tips I posted was a treble on Brazil, Argentina and France to win their groups. That still pays a best £26.80 at Betfred to a tenner even though many firms have cut France after their 8-0 defeat of Jamaica.
Nothing's happened to change my mind about that treble, not even Franck Ribery's injury, as I believe the French have enough attacking players such as Yohan Cabaye, Paul Pogba, Olivier Giroud and Karim Benzema to score the goals to take them through.
So that's the winners of A, E and F sorted – so what about the other five sections?
Group G and H are relatively straightforward and I see Germany finishing ahead of Portugal and Belgium taking top spot in front of AN Other! I'll come to that later.
Groups B, C and D are the toughest to call. Spain should finish ahead of Holland or Chile to qualify from Group B and we'll get a much better idea after Friday's Spain-Holland opener.
Group C is a minefield because you could make a case for all four teams. If forced to make a call I'd go for Colombia, even without Radamel Falcao, ahead of Ivory Coast but Japan and Greece won't give anyone an easy game.
And so we come to England's Group D – the Group of Death. Italy, Uruguay and England are all ranked in the world's top 10 so that shows how tough it is.
Despite Italy's poor form in friendlies I take them to top the section ahead of Uruguay or England. It could be a winner takes all when those two meet and could be decided by the fitness level of Luis Suarez.
So to sum up my Group winners are Brazil, Spain, Colombia, Italy, France, Argentina, Germany and Belgium – but I certainly wouldn't consider doing an eightfold at 62-1 with Paddy Power.
I'm happy with the Brazil, Argentina and France treble and may add Germany and Belgium for a fivefold that returns about 6-1.
Choosing runners-up in most groups is tougher. Group A looks a dogfight between Mexico, Croatia and Cameroon and it's Holland or Chile in Group B behind Spain. Group C is almost impossible to call but I'll try Ivory Coast and with apologies to England fans I'll be on Uruguay to nick second spot in Group D.
Ecuador played well against England last week and will fight for second with Switzerland in Group E and in Group F Bosnia should win their final two matches against Iran and Australia. Portugal will take second spot in Group G if Germany win it and again it's up for grabs in Group H but I'll settle for Russia.
Recommended Bets
Brazil, Argentina and France to win groups
Pays £26.80 to £10 at Betfred
Italy to win Group D
(17-10, Paddy Power)
Argentina/Bosnia Group E straight forecast
(13-10, McBookie, BetVictor)
Germany/Portugal Group G straight forecast
(15-8, bet365)
France/Honduras top-bottom double
(7-4, Skybet)
And one to pile on …
Australia to finish bottom Group B
(3-10, Stan James)
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Any word on fantasy football prizes? Was hoping for something before worldcup.have emailed admin a few times and had no responce.
I also believe England won’t get out of the group stage. Italy will nick one of the first two places as usual and I can see Uruguay being stronger than England.
Is that fivefold meant to be 62/1 or isit 6.2/1 ?
Wazza. it’s 62-1.
Mr f italy to win group? What about us (england)? I think your in for a shock and we will suprise a few.anyway heres my tips
To qualify
Brazil
Argies
Germany
£1000
Returns
£1280
This is nailed on
Quite canny tips Mister F. My extra tip is for Group B to be the highest scoring because of Australia…lets hope sanchez, vidal, vargas, costa, torres, Robben, Van Persie agrees to make it a 5/1 win.
Spot on Mr F & Oor man regarding Australia and group B. I’m just trying to find a Spainish top team scorer. I like like the look of Pedro and Torres as much as he’s taunted always delivers on the big stage for Spain. Is he as good as he once was- possibly not but he’s still got the know how for me.
Think bosnia will win group. Sheer determination and dzeko to have a storming 3 games and maybe topscorer in world cup. Everything they do ends up going to dzeko and hes looking fitter than ever
Group betting will be where the majority of my money will be going on! To qualify, reverse forecasts and to finish bottom!
I’ve taken a six fold of group winners: Brazil, Argentina, France, Belgium, Colombia, Germany. Took it last week so don’t know exact odds, but over 10/1
Fancy Italy just like yourself Mr f think they will get the better of uruguay after drawing the England game and beat Costa rica
Hope England can get 2nd spot tho
Just placed my first wc bet and that is Chile and Bosnia to qualify at 9/4.
Spain Germany Argentina Brazil semi finalists 20/1 @Skybet but been backed into 18/1 in couple hours
Italy lineup vs England. …Buffon Darmian Barzagli Chiellini De sciglio..Derossi. ..Verratti Pirlo Candreva. .Marchisio. .Balotelli. .41311
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bewolf, there’s talk of Immobile playing instead of Balotelli but we’ll say.
After seeing these tips I’ve decided to take a selection from each group & go for an 8-fold
Group A – BRAZIL to WIN Group @ 1/4
Group B – AUSTRALIA to finish BOTTOM @ 1/4
Group C – GREECE NOT to Qualify @ 4/11
Group D – COSTA RICA to finish BOTTOM @ 2/9
Group E – FRANCE TO Qualify @ 1/5
Group F – ARGENTINA to WIN Group @ 2/9
Group G – USA NOT to Qualify @ 2/9
Group H – BELGIUM TO Qualify @ 1/5
All look good on paper & pays just over 9/2 with coral
bewolf, that COULD BE the lineup, but Italy see England not as a 4231 but as a 442.
Lets hope Woy Hodgson never reads that
Evening gents , my main World Cup bets:
Australia
Costa Rica
Honduras
All to finish bottom of their group pays 5/4
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Russia
Portugal
Both to qualify from the group stages pays 5/4
( NAP )
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Belgium / Russia
Germany / Portugal
Dual group forecast singles and a double
Singles pay 19/20 & 4/5 – double pays 5/2
(NB)
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Ecuador to qualify from the group stages 10/11
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Chile
Uruguay
France
Belguim
All to win their opening match pays 3/1
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Nothing fancy here gents – not going to make you rich but will give you some decent profit! Don’t go for the Hollywood lines – keep it simple :)
The dual forecast is both teams to qualify in any order!
Mr F, me thinks Wazza was right, Laddies have your 5 group winners @5.9/1 !!!!!!!!!
Alasu57, sorry the 62-1 was typed in the wrong place – that’s for the eight group winners.
Well said greg and good luck
Bosnia specials ;
To qualify fron group 4/5
Dzeko top team scorer 13/8
Stage of elimination – 1/4 finals 15/2
England specials ;
England not to win a game in group 5/1 (Costa Rica double chance if games go as I think they will)
England to score under 3 group gls 16/5
France top gl scorer Ribery 4/1 & Pogba 16/1
South Korea to qualify 7/4
Columbia stage of elimination – last 16 ( play 1st or 2nd in England group)
Uruguay top gl scorer – Forlan 16/1
Winner/top gl scorer doubles
Argentina/Fred 150/1
Germany/Fred 200/1
Uruguay/Forlan 200/1
Repost from 3 weeks ago
i believe that the group of germany it will be:
germany 7 points
portugal 7 points
other 2 from 1 point
pays 324-1
Cheers Johnny, you too mate!
There usually always one am surprise team , just not sure who it’s going to be!
Really hope your right ramey,as a city fan I want dzeko to do well.i think bosnia will suprise a few and won’t roll over for Argentina
My bets so far
Messi top goal scorer 8/1 – @PaddyPower special
Germany 13/2 and Spain 6/1 – @Betfred special
Fred/Brazil 40/1
Buffon Golden Glove 10/1
Brazil v Croatia over 2.0 goals 1.575 – Challenge
Spain highest scoring team 10/1 from 13/2 @Ladbrokes
Aguero top prem league scorer 6/1 from 9/2 @Ladbrokes
Bosnia, Germany, France, Colombia & Spain to qualify 5/2
Plus 12 team group stage acca off free bet 68/1
Oor it’s 4131 (see luxembourg match)..De rossi in front of the 4 defenders
bewolf, you dont know what it is, and neither do i. That is the fact for this moment. I know where De Rossi plays, but it means sweet fanny adams at this moment. Italy could play 4231 433 41311 442 4132..at this moment Italy are taking
England as 442.
12 team acca
BRAZIL v Croatia
CHILE v Australia
URUGUAY v Costa Rica
FRANCE v Honduras
ARGENTINA v Bosnia and Herzegovina
NIGERIA v Iran
BELGIUM v Algeria
BRAZIL v Mexico
HOLLAND v Australia
ITALY v Costa Rica
ARGENTINA v Iran
PORTUGAL v Ghana
41311 imean
it would seem to be a decent formation , but we dont know bewolf…England we know, Italy is an unknown for everyone as they have no real style or formation they follow.
I personally think Portugal NOT to qualify is a good bet. I think their too dependant on Ronaldo…Will post all my pre tournament bets tomorrow I need sleep and I’ve had loads. Its that close I can almost sense it. WC14 is almost upon us and I can’t wait!
Wouldnt argue with anything youve said Mr F except i just slightly prefer the chances of England over Uruguay,did my pre tourney bets a couple of weeks back and had posted them before,bit speculative but each with a decent chance i think.
Group winners accie
Spain @ 4/6
Germany @ 4/7
Argentina @ 2/9
France @ 5/6
Brazil @ 2/9
Dual forecast accie
Belgium & Russia @ 10/11
England & Italy @ 2/1
Germany & Portugal @ 4/6
Spain & Holland @ 10/11
Opening games accie 12-15 june
Uruguay @ 2/5
Uruguay v Costa Rica
Argentina @ 2/5
Argentina v Bosnia-Herzegovina
France @ 3/10
France v Honduras
Brazil @ 3/10
Brazil v Croatia
High Value match accie 12-15 june {done yesterday} pays over £353 to a £10 stake
Argentina @ 4/9
Argentina v Bosnia-Herzegovina
France @ 4/11
France v Honduras
Brazil @ 10/11
Handicap Betting(-1.0)
Brazil v Croatia
Uruguay @ 4/9
Uruguay v Costa Rica
Chile @ 4/9
Chile v Australia
Dundalk to Score 3 or more goals in the match @ 7/2
Team Goals in Match
Dundalk v St Pats
Plus will get my England bets on Friday or Saturday before KO, could both be down by the early hours of Sunday morning but can will happily take a 0-0 in Italy and think most England fans will too
Well..verratti didn’t practise today (a bit of fever)…that’s the only problem but he will be allright
And most Italy fans will too
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Thanks for your input MrF, will help with my final decisions
I fancy they could go 4141 bewolf. But we dont know. Italy, if they can get past the group, will change their formation to suit as the tournament goes on. to suit other players, to suit the heat, to suit tiredness- such a flexible side they have this year.
Actually it’s a 4141.candreva and Marchisio in turn will help Balotelli attack the lines
They will change their formation to suit as the match goes on.immobile insigne cassano ready to roll… just in case
Goodnight napoli
Am I the only person who thinks England and Uruguay will qualify?! I think we all finish level on points but out score the Italians against CoSta rica
Not sure how much consideration folk are giving the conditions with some of these but they will be absolutely massive. I think you can add about 10% to the normal standard of the South American teams and probably minus a similar % off many of the european teams.
I would have fancied Uruguay anyway, but with the conditions in their favour, especially the afternoon game with England, it will be a case of who qualifies alongside them, Italy or England. I fancy Italy, purely as they will keep the ball a bit better. Both England and Italy didn’t look too clever in their recent friendlies but i really fear for England in those conditions with many of the players sporting typical ‘brits abroad’ red faces to match their shirts in the Miami heat last week, really didn’t cope well.
I’m going to jump on Uruguay at 7/4 best price just now against England before it falls any further.
Suarez will hopefully be back to full fitness too Jman, big price also but ive already got £65+ on so far so taking it game by game after England bets are placed
Don’t really see the big deal
Is with Uruguay takin suarez out.
Paul I like the look of your bet Brazil, Argentina and France to win their groups. What about making it a 4 fold by adding Australia to finish bottom of their group. For £100 stake this would return £336.10 as opposed to £268. No idea why this it’s not allowing me to back this online as Australia is not related to any other of the group betting. Do you think it would be worthwhile just writing them out on a betting slip?
Eightfold with looking for value in next best team in group apart from favourite to qualify. Willhills have a to qualify from group market…
A – Croatia
B – Holland
C – Japan
D – England ( wishful thinking )
E – SWISS
F – Bosnia
G – Portugal
H – South Korea
Pays about 112/1.
England get out of group and I got enough £££’s to jump on the plane :-)
This is where I’ve put my money so far:
Pre-Tournament Bets
Stan James
To Qualify:
Croatia
Ivory Coast
Bosnia
Italy
£10 returns £128.20
Boylesports
To win the group:
Brazil
Spain
Argentina
Belgium
Columbia
Germany
£10 returns £121.39
Betvictor
Top goalscorer:
Mario Mandzukic 150/1
£3 each way returns £568.50
PaddyPower
Top goalscorer:
Thomas Muller 30/1
£10 each way
Paddy Power
Top goalscorer:
Sergio Aguero 12/1
£10 each way
Match accumulator 1 – certs
Paddy Power
Argentina to beat Iran
Belgium to beat Algeria
France to beat Honduras
Uruguay to beat Costa Rica
Chile to beat Australia
£20 accumulator returns £84.93
Paddy Power
No hat-trick scored
£25 returns £100….3/1
Paddy Power
Argentina/Bosnia-Herzegovina
Dual forecast
£30 returns £63…11/10
Paddy Power
Dual forecast accumulator
Argentina/Bosnia-Herzegovina
Brazil/Croatia
Spain/Chile
Columbia/Ivory Coast
£10 returns £399.23
Sportingbet
Portugal not to qualify
£15 returns £40.50
Coral
Germany to win the tournament
Germany 6/1
£15 each way
SkyBet
Australia to lose all their games
£30 on returns £76.70
Bet Victor
Honduras to lose all their games
£10 returns £38.50
SkyBet
England v Italy Draw
£15 on returns £45
Ladbrokes
England v Italy
No first goalscorer
£10 returns £70…6/1
Sportingbet
Jordan Ayew to be Ghana’s top goalscorer
£5 returns £65
Team top scorer treble
Mandzukic
Van Persie
Ronaldo
£5 returns £69.98
As ever i really like most of Gregs bets so will be copying some of those, my mind bet at a decent price is chile to qualify ahead of holland
also looking at honduras to pick up a few red cards judging buy the way they got stuck into england.t
Only focussing on a few select teams. Haven’t bothered with teams I think might finish second, too touch and go for me.
Points Finishes:
Brazil to finish on 9 Points (7/5)
Argentina to finish on 9 Points (5/4)
Australia to finish on 0 Points (7/5)
Points Treble:
Australia, Honduras and Costa Rica to all score 1 Point or less (2.8/1)
Group Winner:
Belgium to win Group H (4/5)
Top Team Goalscorers:
Lukaku (Belgium) (9/4)
Dzeko (Bosnia) (17/10)
And I also think i’ll be on the Argentina/Bosnia Dualcast, and possibly No Hat Trick..
Cheers Robbo!
Chile is the one team I’m struggling what to do with – it’s really them or Holland, I can’t decide!
My bets so far….Group winners: BRAZIL,, ARGENTINA,,SPAIN,, COLOMBIA,, ITALY,, GERMANY,, PORTUGAL & FRANCE,, Around 50/1 @Ladbrokes……….Only a couple of doubts with Spain & Colombia, so covered a few combos with HOLLAND & IVORY COAST……All in all, ive placed £47 with my lowest potential returns coming in @ £520…………..IF ALL GOES TO, PLAN Mwaa ha ha ha…..Famous last words…..Good Luck to all over the next month………C’MON GERMANY (Thats my pick to win outright )…………………………
Thanks Mr F
Here is my longshot teams to qualify
Brazil
Croatia
Spain
Columbia
Ivory Coast
Italy
France
Ecuador
Argentina
Germany
Portugal
Bosnia
Belgium
Russia
10er returns £1100
My brother just txt me to say William Hill are doing a special for Argentina to score 3 or more goals in each of their group games is @ 14/1
for my group bets ive taken
brazil – group winners
argentina – group winners
france- to qualify
ivory coast – to qualify
belgium – to qualify
£5 returns £20 @ tote bet
i have also done
iran – to finish bottom of group
costa rica- to finish bottom of group
australia – to finish bottom of group
greece – to finish bottom of group
£5 returns £19.69 @ tote bet
Some good ideas for bets on here, decided upon a top/bottom of group treble bet,
BRAZIL/CMEROON
ARGENTINA/IRAN
SPAIN/AUSTRAILIA
pays over 5/1 and I think you have more insurance than some other bets, eg if a top team slips up and gets a draw or a bottom team does slightly better and gets a draw or win, outcomes will most likely be the same. However if you back to get 9 points or to get 0 points this can be down early. Any thoughts I feel like this is printing money
Excellent preview Mr F
Made me re-think some of my bets and now going to have a look at some group forecasts to go with my group winner bets.
@Chris Guy,11/1 @Hills mate
Heres my updates World Cup Bets after reading what others on here have to offer. Hat tipped to Mr F in particular (and the racing post).
Dual Forecast Rus/Bel Ger/Por, Arg/Bos DUAL @ 6.7
Group Winners Brazil, Spain, France, Argentina @ 4.644
Scorer Matchbet NEYMAR v Suarez 1 1.67
Johnboy came down off the mountain for the NEYMAR bet waxing less than lyrical about how NEYMAR should be 2/7 against Suarez. 4/6 is real value if he is correct.
Good luck everyone.
An interesting bet I seen tipped on sportinglife is
CHILE V AUSTRALIA – Highest scoring group game @ 33/1
Must win game for Chile with the remaining games being Spain & Holland. Chile are an “Energetic & creative” side with the likes of Alexis Sanchez, Arturo Vidal, Jorge Valdivia, Eduardo Vargas & Felipe Gutierrez who all carry a goal threat & likey to start if fit(Vidal being a doubt)
Worth a few quid at that odds!
AL, take into the Aussies probably won’t score so it won’t be a 4-3 or 3-3 or anything like that.
Couldn’t get the bet placed as it’s not a market skybet are taking bets on, thought it was with them as they were advertised all over the page I’d read it on, skybet themselves said it was misleading when I spoke to them on chat to see if they were taking bets on it.
Fancy Chile to win by a few and would have been worth a couple of quid at that odds
Betfred are offering BELGIUM to win their group at EVENS limited availability.
Greg I’m going for Holland. Many fancy Chile but according to how I think the tournament will pan out that means Chile will have to knock out Brazil and I can’t see that happening.
can`t see uruguay getting out of group, very poor record in form in trying to qualify, potent attack but they need to be with the amount of goals they leak
Ill say now why i feel England will qualify from the group of Death,the way i see it Italy,Uruguay and England will all approach their games with each other looking to avoid defeat and playing very cagey take no chances football and we could see these games all ending in a draw,we all know how Italy have been playing recently with 6 draws in their last 7 games and Uruguay have hardly been setting the world alight recently,anyone who watched their game with ‘Norn Iron’ will know what i mean added to the fact that their star man Suarez the Scouse has been injured recently and should he be back will surely be a little rusty for a game or 2.Given that these games have a good chance of ending in draws this leaves the performances against Costa Rica as crucial in deciding who goes through,this is where England have the upper hand as they face Costa Rica in thier final game and knowing exactly what they need to win by should it be 2 or maybe 3 goals i can see them achieving it and going through on goal difference should Italy and Uruguay draw their last game,the Italy v Uruguay final game could be crucial in deciding who goes through along with England. Makes sense to me to look at the final games to see who has the advantage. Apologies to any that have backed England to fail in the group stage,i just cant see it thats why i backed them to go through ;)
Who fancies Australia to finish bottom and Spain to finish top?
Yeah, me too!
On Betfair you can back a quadcast for Group B as follows-
Spain/Holland/Chile/Australia – 3.5 – £10 = £35
Spain/Chile/Holland/Australia – 5.0 – £10 = £50
So IF Spain finish top and Australia finish bottom you would be a minimum £15 in profit. Obviously depending on the size of your stake.
Also just so you know
Holland/Spain/Chile/Australia is 5.5
Chile/Spain/Holland/Australia is 11.0
Found your ss for tmro mr f, you can thank me later, at 12pm tmro, william hill are offering evens for brazil to beat Croatia
@Centrecircle, you’re aff yer heid pal…a grand to make 280, get a grip and go to gamblers anon……Crazy !!!!!!!!….Just takes one of them to have a nightmare and its down…Look at France years ago, couldnt get a goal and got knocked out without scoring a goal…..
G
Rick, Winner Sports are offering Brazil at 3/1
Is that for new customers tho.evens is for existing customers aswel.
Mr F what tips are still to come today an outright and what else
David, I’ve said many times I’m on Argentina. Tips on Brazil v Croatia will be up soon.
GUYS, ACCORDING TO THE GOALS OF QUALIFICATION ROUND :
GOAL FOR – AT AVERAGE:
1. SPAIN 0.375 – 1.75
2. ENGLAND 0.4 – 3.1
3. CROATIA 0.4 – 1.8
4. BELGIUM 0.4 – 1.8
5. HOLLAND 0.5 – 3.4
6. GHANA 0.5 – 3
7. RUSSIA 0.5 – 2
GOAL AT – FOR AVERAGE:
1. GERMANY 3.6 – 1
2. HOLLAND 3.4 – 0.5 (8-1 HUNGARY)
3. ENGLAND 3.1 – 0.4 (8-0 LUXEMB.)
4. GHANA 3 – 0.5
5. BOSNIA 3 – 0.6
6. GREECE 3 – 0.6
YOU CAN SEE THAT HOLLAND AND ENGLAND ARE AND TO THE 2 GROUPS. I ALREADY BET HOLLAND TO BE IN THE FINAL AND THE 2 OF THEM IN SEMIFINALS.
SUPRISES – SPAIN TO DONT PLAY SEMIFINALS
– ENGLAND TO PLAY SEMIFINALS