AFTER Germany's sensational 7-1 win against Brazil you have to wonder if Argentina and Holland want to face them in the Final.

I know Brazil were poor but on that display the Germans will lift the trophy no matter who they face in Rio on Sunday. And they'll probably beat Scotland in their first competitive game after the World Cup. Probably!

There was a lot of debate on the site about the Germany-Brazil game and how difficult it was to call. I've already said the absences of Thiago Silva and Neymar led me to go for the Germans but there was a 50-50 split among site contributors and pundits in general. However, I have to credit Scotland boss Gordon Strachan who wrote off the Brazilians in his Daily Record column and gave excellent reasoning.

In hindsight the first semi-final was easy to call and maybe Argentina-Holland will be too but I don't have that gift.

So until I can see into the future this game is another that could go either way. If Holland repeat their display against Spain they'll win – if they play as they did against Costa Rica in the quarters they'll lose.

Argentina have been fairly consistent throughout – steady but not spectacular – and of course have a genius in their line-up in the shape of Lionel Messi. In fact in many ways tonight could be all about Messi v Arjen Robben.

It's not an exaggeration to suggest whichever No.10 plays best could finish on the winning side. Messi's not been as prominent as Robben but his goals and assists have carried Argentina into the last four and he is capable of moments of magic.

He had been well supported by Angel di Maria and the injured Real Madrid midfielder will be missed -as will Man City's Sergio Aguero.

Robben's outshone fellow forward Robin van Persie, a doubt for tonight, and was a constant threat against Costa Rica. In fact he and Wesley Sneijder were the only Dutch destroyers on the night as Louis van Gaal's side eventually won on penalties.

While Holland blew a handful of chances their display was poor and Argentina looked better against Belgium. For that reason I'm backing the South Americans, who I tipped on the anteposts, to qualify for the Final but again not with over-confidence.

It won't be easy though and I can't rule out a draw in 90 minutes which means Argentina may need extra time or penalties to progress. The Argies are strong favourites at 8-11 with Ladbrokes to qualify with the Dutch 5-4 at McBookie and BetVictor.

To win in 90 minutes Argentina are 6-4 with McBookie and BetVictor while Holland are 12-5 (various) and the draw 11-5 (general).

Messi and Robben will be popular on the first-scorer markets with Messi 4-1 with McBookie and others to net first and Robben 7-1.

Gonzalo Higuain, who broke his duck with the only goal against Belgium, is also 7-1 and a Dutch alternative is Sneijder at 12-1 (William Hill).

Unlike last night's goalfest could be a slow burner with the first goal likely to come after 31 minutes. That pays 10-11 at William Hill.

Ten of Holland's 12 goals at this World Cup have come after half-time according to easyodds. William Hill offer 7-4 on the Dutch scoring more goals in the second half than the first.

In addition the last four Dutch goals have all come after the 75th minute. It's 5-6 with bet365 through easyodds that there is a goal in the match after the 68th minute.

Argentina have not been behind at any stage in the tournament. Easyodds show they are favourites to be the first team to score, best priced at 97-100 with Marathon Bet. The Dutch are 20-1 with BetVictor and McBookie to become the first side at the tournament to turnaround a deficit against Argentina and win.

Argentina have won all their matches by a one-goal margin. Another victory by a goal for the South Americans is best odds of 16-5 with Ladbrokes while a win for either side in 90 minutes by a single-goal margin is 4-5 at Betway.

Recommended Bets

Messi to score
(31-20, McBookie)

Sneijder to score
(9-2, bet365)

Argentina to qualify
(8-11, Ladbrokes)

Goal after 68 minutes
(5-6, bet365)

  1. robbie d 5 years ago

    Paddy Power messenger app has Messi anytime 2/1. That’s my main bet today.

  2. maxclover 5 years ago

    Argentina to win 2-1 11/1

  3. Rayy 5 years ago

    Argentina to win (90 mins)
    Under 3.5 goals
    Messi to score anytime

    What do you all think? Worth placing bets on these?

    • Mr Fixit 5 years ago

      Rayy, you’ve got to decide – all could win or all could lose. That’s football for you.

  4. Boco1976 5 years ago

    Watched all argentinas games and all hollands. Argentina have disappointed, beating belgium has been their best result of the tournament. Holland are very much a counter attacking team and will struggle to break down teams who dont come with attacking intentions.
    Argentina have a lot more to offer but i dont think we’ll see it tonight. I really cant see this being a high scoring game so im going with a 0-0 or 1-1 ft with holland edging it by a goal in extra time.
    But you never know its a funny old game!

  5. Jhammond 5 years ago

    Apparently Ron Vlaar is a big doubt! could be the biggest bit of news!

    • Mr Fixit 5 years ago

      Jhammond, is that good or bad for Holland? Was really poor against Costa Rica.

  6. Paul 5 years ago

    Here’s a bit of superstition, yesterday a German in Kittel won Stage 4 of the Tour De France, and then Germany won their Semi final in the World Cup, and today a Dutchman in Boom won Stage 5 of the Tour De France is this a occurring pattern are the Dutch going to win the semi final tonight against Argentina I think I might stick a little wager on it

    • raaljaca 5 years ago

      Lars Boom is dutch for ‘We lost 3-1’ :)

  7. Craig Alves 5 years ago

    Is there any Argentinians in Tour De France Paul :)

  8. Jay 5 years ago

    Using my heart rather than my head but I’m gonna go with the Dutch tonight. I tipped Belgium to beat Argentina as there there for the taking it’s just Belgium have no back bone and also felt agrgentina lost there threat when di Maria went off. I’m going holland to qualify although I think it will go to extra time

  9. David 5 years ago

    Where is Messi 2/1 on paddy power messenger app?

    • robbie d 5 years ago

      If you have the app , check today’s messages. Was one of 3 offers sent at 12.08. Other two wereRobben anytime 3/1 and penalty shoot out 6/1

  10. Paul 5 years ago

    There might be Craig but as boom won the stage today and is Dutch I am just thinking it might be a lucky omen as yesterday was a Germany double!!!!

  11. Speedy 5 years ago

    If mueller ends up equal top score is the odds halved or does it go to player with most assists in the games? Put on Germany wee bit every week ,also the argies at start too ,please both be in the final mr god lol so I can put my slippers on and relax n Njoy the final !

    • Mr Fixit 5 years ago

      Speedy, top scorer is dead heated but Golden Boot goes to assists in the event of a tie.

  12. Speedy 5 years ago

    So I’d get half my odds mr f yeah . Cudv had a few last night .

    • Mr Fixit 5 years ago

      Speedy, half the odds if two deadheat, one third the odds if three, etc

  13. PodTheRod 5 years ago

    Dead heated Mr.F? Do explain please.
    As you know I am on J-Rod at 150/1 ;)

  14. PodTheRod 5 years ago

    Got sorted Mr.F …dead heat wouldn’t be so bad at least if it was just J-Rod and Muller then I would get 75/1 and I done it EW too!

  15. johnb 5 years ago

    Hi mr f I wasn’t too sure about Germany last night & think Brazil made them look good
    Also think the Germany win will motivate the Dutch & that would be a good grudge match to watch but I just think for once the Dutch are enjoying playing together & Van Gaal maybe on his way to a World Cup Premier League double lol

  16. David 5 years ago

    Robbie I haven’t got messenger just installed it there not sure if I can still get the message

  17. GREGGE 5 years ago

    Yes Messi this Messi that, yes he can score but the dutch have Arjen Robben and he is actually 5/2 to score @ anytime in this match… ermmm wow i’ll sum it up in three words…

    fill yer boots :)

  18. Tonyboy 5 years ago

    Evening gents,

    I’ve been fairly quiet as not much to post the past few days. One I’m looking at for FHG at 9pm is in the Iceland 4th Division – niche!

    Back >2.5 FHG in Lettir vs Afrika match.

    Afrika are truly awful and could concede 5+ tonight. However, I’m taking first half goals in this one for a small stake.

  19. Aircon 5 years ago

    Messi, It’s time to show why you are probably the best player to have ever played the game!

  20. bradsbets 5 years ago

    Come on shares the overseas on the bookings ? Play dirty dutch

  21. Heimdall 5 years ago

    Holland to qualify

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