RESULTS were poor for punters on Saturday – and bookies kept counting the cash in the evening with Real Madrid's draw at Osasuna a sore one for anyone who got involved.
Hopefully things will get better – and certainly the matches at Arsenal and Man United should provide more entertainment than most of the games featured on Match of the Day.
My top treble was a disaster after the previous week's winning but on Sunday I'm trying to make amends. Start with Lazio at home to Atalanta in Serie A.
Second-placed Lazio have won three on the bounce and beaten Atalanta four out of five at home – all to nil – as well as beating them earlier in the season.
The Romans have dropped just two points at home in eight games while Atalanta have lost four in row on the road.
Staying in Italy and Napoli should be too strong at home to a Palermo side that's lost five of their last six. The Sicilians have hit just one goal and picked up one point on their last five visits to Naples and lost the home fixture 3-0 this season.
Napoli have of course a class act in Edinson Cavani and I'll be on him to score first at 9-4 with Betway.
Complete the treble with Barcelona who travel to Malaga. Unlike Real I can't see Barca letting the side down even though they face fellow Champions League last-16 qualifiers.
Malaga are enjoying a great season but don't like playing Barca and since being promoted have lost eight out of eight, including 4-1 three times in the last four meetings.
Barca continue to show sides no mercy and have netted 23 in their last six away games. Lionel Messi scores against everyone but particularly Malaga and has hat-tricks in his last two outings against them.
So take Barca at 2-5 and look at Messi at just 7-4 at Betway to score first.
The treble doesn't page a huge amount and anyone looking for a bigger could consider Atletico Madrid, with Falcao back, at home to Zaragoza and Real Sociedad at home to Deportivo.
For my Super Single I'm risking Benfica at home to Porto. Both sides are unbeaten this season but I'm banking on home advantage giving the Lisbon the side the edge. They are 27-20 at Betway.
Top Treble
Lazio (2.0)
Napoli (2.0)
Barcelona (8.0)
Pays £29.10 to a £10 stake at Betway
Super Single
Benfica
(27-20, Betway)
Anytime scorer treble
Cavani/Messi/Falcao
Pays £25.40 to a £10 stake at Betway
Man Utd v Liverpool (1.30)
Carlisle v Coventry (3.0)
Benfica v Porto (8.15)
Pacos Ferreira v Academica (4.0)
Parma v Juventus (2.0)
Woking v Ebbsfleet (1.0)
Perm any 5 and all 6 (7 bets)
Sixfold pays a biggest £242.80 to a £10 stake at Stan James
Mr f never seen u advertise a 12 goal line. Must admit it looks very tempting .
Is Woking v ebsfleet on
Tony, haven’t seen anything to say Woking game is off.
Treble looks good, will get that on tomorrow
5FOLD
Napoli
Woluwe
Ferriera
PAOK
Ponferradina
TREBLE – ManUtd – Lazio – AthleticoMadrid
SINGLE – Udinese 2 Score In Both Halves @ 11/4
BTTS
Catania-Roma
Carlisle-Coventry
Sivasspor-Bursaspor
Nice-Valenciennes
Benfica-Porto
2 Score In Both Halves @ 415/1
Preston
Woking
Udinese
PAOK
Woluwe
Terrible day yesterday, still got one bet running though which is valencia/man utd double..
Can’t really make my mind up either way with the Arsenal/City game tbh, have both Lazio and Napoli shortlisted though.
Hopefully today will be better :) Good Luck all
paul..what do you think of my bonkers bet Man 3 Liverpool 2 its 21/1 bet 365
Jim, I thought you’d get bigger than that. Have you looked about.
also on man utd 3 2 25/1 at corals
Lumped on Man utd on Friday night and topped it up a bit yesterday. Was gonna put £40 on RVP-Man utd score-win dble but decided to top up Man utd bet a bit more. I just think 10/11 is massive. Man utd only dropped points at home was against spurs back in september, won other 9. Liverpool 7 places and 21 points behind them. I know in a match like this form can go for nowt but just think its huge value.
In other game its a toughie, Arsenal very patchy and city go on good runs but i’ve watched them struggle at times. Maybe one to watch for in play punts. Also been very few goals when these two meet at emirates in last few years.
just seen on SKYBET Man.u to win 1-0,2-0 or 2-1 is 5/2.
Knottsy, I’m on Man Utd too but not as confident as you. Liverpool can’t be written off totally because you’re never sure what you’ll get and of course Suarez can win games on his own as can Van Persie.
4 fold
Arsenal -1
Lazio -1
Barcelona -1
Parma
140/1
my 5 fold. £5 on to £83 back
man city
lazio
napoli
preston
barcer
fingers crossed and good luck all.
6 fold today pays 30/1 at bet 365
Man Utd
Man city
Napoli
Lazio
Athletico Madrid
Nice
I hear what you’re saying paul, it is seen as a derby match so form can go out window. But Liverpool are work in progress and rely too heavily on suarez. I think there is a gulf in class between them and if Man utd turn up and can keep suarez reasonably quite, they will be too strong. In these kind of games teams need to win the battle first and fergie will have them fired up. United have shown this season they have the heart to win games even when behind. Maybe tight but united for me.
Cue liverpool winnin 3-0!! Lol
Barca -1 is priced up at over Evens! I know Malaga are a decent side but I think barca are a different class to the rest of the world.
Mike, Malaga as you say are a decent outfit. But if Barca play anywhere near their best they’ll win by at least two.
barca -1 at evens thats a good shout ile be having a bit of that.lol.
A fancy man u ,man c ,roma ,juve ,maybe Coventry ,and thoughts ? You were riggt about leeds disastrous day betting yestetday for me
Mitchell, obviously I like Man Utd and Roma and Coventry can win if Thursday’s game plus the loss of David McGoldrick hasn’t affected them too much. Juve are odds on but might have to settle for a draw. Man City I’ve tipped but I think a lot depends on the Man United result. If United win then City will have to go for a win too. William Hill enchanced the Manchester double from 7-2 to 6-1 for a spell this morning (max bet £10) and that suggests to me they’ve gone cold on City. I haven’t put anything on City yet but may consider the double chance depending on how United fare.
Think I’ll go with four draws for today covering trebles and up. Liverpool are due something at OT- I had Preston down to draw on the pools- Carlisle and Coventry look hard to split and who knows with the Arsenal match- maybe another 0-0.
barca win to win 4-1 @ 16/1 take that for a super single paul
James, it’s been 4-1 twice recently so good luck.
Anyone thinking of having a small stakes bet, look at the portuguese 2nd division, Freamunde are bottom but a few wins and a 3-3 draw in recent games, 6/1 for them to net 3 today
John, interesting tip and I’ll watch out for it but I rarely bet on foreign leagues outside the top flight because I don’t know enough about them.
I came across them looking for another game last week, i know very little about them myself that’s why i put small stakes on, a bit of interest on a sunday afternoon
arsenal 3 3 man city 50/1 man utd 3 2 liverpool 25/1 £2.50 double.
Paul, remarkable if that comes up. If it does get your entry in for Lucky Line of the Week.
will do mr fixit,would be amazed if it came in but u never no.
Paul, the way Liverpool are playing they aren’t going to score. At least I’ve got the Van Persie goal in the bag.
Liverpool will be lucky to get a shot on target never mind a goal. Man U very comfy although 1-0 is always never enough
The longer it stays 1 nil the more chance Liverpool have to score, I’ve got £200 on man utd race to 2 goals, so hopefully theyll net another! I am a united fan myself so hopefully they’ll do me a favour!
Mike, if it stays 2-1 I’ll be happy after taking United, Van Persie to score first, United race to 2 goals and both teams to score. But could be a nervy last 10 minutes. Guy who won £20k with his Line of the Week entry put his £50 free bet on 3-1 United so he’s getting a run for his money.
Not watching game but checking score/game updates on twitter and seems a decent game, never bet on either prem games but napoli safe now for treble and di natale scoring just before ht keeps my longshot going, napoli lazio and di natale to score 2+ then onto milan tonight for el sharaawy to score 2+ for a 288/1 shot. In fact a done 10p doubles wi 6 correct score longshots man u 4-1 city 4-2 left
Di Natale gets his 2nd, cmon LAZIO! !!!
Got hammered yesterday, what was left in my account was locked up in the united game so missed a few i had short listed (of which are either winning or won)sods law isn’t it lol, anyways now thats come in i’m gonna go for
Real Sociedad – single
Ath Madrid/Barca – double
GOALLLLLAZIIOOOOOO
United big winners for me today. Played great to go 2-0 up but very nervy display after sturridge goal. Scousers probably deserved a draw in the end but united ground it out. Gonna use some of my winnings on Arsenal. Toure and Aguero big losses for city. Arsenal big price so gonna have a wee touch on them.
Accumulator (5)Hide Details
Man Utd @ 1.95Match BettingWon
Man Utd v Liverpool
Atletico Madrid @ 1.30Match BettingOpen
Atletico Madrid v Zaragoza
Barcelona @ 1.44Match BettingOpen
Malaga v Barcelona
Lazio @ 1.75Match BettingOpen
Lazio v Atalanta
Napoli @ 1.33Match BettingOpen
Napoli v Palermo
Stake: £25.00Potential Returns: £213.59
Looking very promising!!
No love for AC Milan later?
ClaretNBlue, not sure. Samp’s win at Juventus last week concerns me slightly.
7.50 on your treble tae for £25, if athletico win think barca will win by a few especially wi real Madrid drawing last night.
Anybody know if cavani started for Napoli?
Done a lucky 15 RVP, Cavani, Falcao and the Messiah
Cavani did start am sure
Cheers Craig, just found out he did mate
William hill offering odds 3.75 for tevez to score anytime! Undecided wether to take it or not!
burst for today…last bet was 25 @ 9/4 on Arsenal to get a goal before 80mins.
Any suggestions on what else I can bet on to try get my money back (always a bad way to be mind you lol)
Stevie H, I would be Barca for me and Messi to score first and maybe two to more.
Great Manchester Double come in………. nothing else for me till Tuesday, then it’ll be a couple of FA Cup replay games…….. Going to have to see what the weather brings the next few days i guess, in the terms of matches that are off and horse racing meetings falling to the snow !
MIlesey, I was very happy with the Manchester double, should have taken Hills’ 6-1 after all.
Jeez..Falcao 13/8 to score first with bet365…no value. Guess if it comes in its a 13/8 winner at the end of the day
Guido, bookies giving nothing away on players like Falcao and Messi.
Hes always likely to score as u know well Paul…but he scored 2nd tonite. Resisted the urge to back him at those odds n went for a treble on FCB, Atletico and Waites to win the darts final.
I had a good today. Couldn’t see past the Manchester clubs and bet them both accordingly as singles and as a double. I also had a tenner on Hills 6/1 special double so I’m a happy punter.
My only let-down was that I backed RVP to score first with Betfred at 3/1, the shortest price in the book. Fred was offering the double delight/hat-trick heaven on the odds if he scored again and again, however, he only scored once but I can’t really complain about that.
Might take a chance on Barca tonight on the handicaps, minus 2 goals at 3/1 looks too big to me.
Paul ,just seen the Clydebank result from yesterday . Knew you were going …..what happened mate ?
Brummie Blue, Bankies were poor, simple as that.
11/5 for Messi to score 1st and Barca win. Hopefully will get my money back with this bet. lost 35 today and 20 yesterday. not good!
Shoould be OK there Stevie
Looking at this 4fold tonight after real sociedad ruined at promising 5fold earlier
Barcelona -1
Marseille
AC Milan
Benfica btts
Thoughts anyone?
Luke, as I’ve said not sure about Milan. I’d be fairly happy with the others.
Stevie are you sure its not Messi to score at anytime and Barcelona to win at 11/5? If not that’s a horrendous price as Messi is 11/5 for first goal with Bet365 without the need to win
I’m having serious trouble with this betway account I opened today, used my own money to put a bet on, still waiting on Barca but single earlier on first gs and it’s paid out ok but now there is a bonus on account and won’t let me withdraw my winnings which was placed with my own funds. I phoned and they want me to bet through the bonus 50x before I can withdraw, you be able to shed any light on this or any info would be appreciated.
James, another punter had this problem last week. I’ll email them to see what they can do because I don’t think it’s right.
Here’s my betting for the Barcelona game. Messi as usual too short so going for a bit if value:
£100 Barc to be winning 30 mins @ 29/10 Lads
£100 on Xavi first goal @ 14/1 Paddy Power
£50 on Xavi last goal @ 14/1 Paddy Power
£20 on Busquets first goal @ 79/1 Betfair
£30 on Barcelona to win 2-0 @ 9/1 VC
Good luck people.
Paul Gappy Birthday to your daughter, I’m sure she still got spoilt even with the btts not coming up.
Chris, Messi too short but at the end he’s done the business so you have to take it or leave it.
Happy Birthday that would be then
Chris, cheers. She was getting nothing until Van Persie scored then I ran out to the shops!
I made a mistake I stuck £100 on Barcelona to be winning in 15 mins @ 29/10. 30 mins is only 11/8.
Chris, hard lines then and Messi should have scored early on.
Benfica draw or no bet Barcalona to win
Had a bad day too .robbed in the 93 min . Oh well we will have to bt Leeds tuesday
That dun me a turn so a was delighted. Got ma btts line up
Benfica 2-2 barca 0-2 nice
Got big money on barca -1 how can I lay in play as now 2-0 up??
Muzza, didn’t see your comment but watching the games there was no need to lay. Very one-sided.
Barca 3-0
Barca 3-0 i hope that benfica and porto wil draw
Mr Fixit, did you play benfica match?
Yomyyo, took Benfica and both teams to score but happy with the treble up and Messi scoring first which completed a good day.
As predicted 6 fold 30/1 bet365
Utd
City
Nice
Ath Madrid
Napoli
Lazio
Thanks bet365
Stevie boy, nice one. I didn’t get involved with Nice but my treble was the easiest I’ve picked all season.
James if you are having any problem with bookies offering you a bonus with a wagering requirement you simply tell then to remove the offer. Reject the bonus cash
Chris, that’s fair enough but as far as I was aware the bonus you earn and the winnings you accrue though cash credited are different. Betway or anyone shouldn’t be mixing up the two. You have to play through a bonus but at the same time should be able to withdraw “real” winnings. We’re trying to get to the bottom of it with Betway.
chris – it was deffo Messi 1st goal and Barca win at 11/5. shocking price but thankfully made my money back ive lost so all good.
I know Paul but I don’t accept any bonuses. Free bets are ok but I’ve grown wise to bonuses offered by various bookies, particularly with online casino. They often tell you its 50 x your stake and deposit before you can withdraw any bonus winnings but what they do Paul is they use your bonus money first therefore since you have used the bonus you have agreed to bet 50 x your stake and bonus resulting in you not being able to withdraw your own money. I always refuse the bonus.
Betway are a Maltese group (Malta)
Chris, they guys we deal with are in London and have told us you should be able to withdraw money won not using the bonus so hopefully they’ll stick to that.
Chris thats decent info given cos av had problems before like that and always wondered how it worked after hearing few complaints, shocking way to get people roped in wi offers, a had a few bets wi betway giving me £100 bonus cash over xmas and used them for a couple of £20 singles, man utd v west ham and arsenal v newcastle draw so never won to find out. Hopefully paul can get more clearance on them and get everyones bets sorted. Even tho they enhance the top treble can usually get bigger prices elsewhere, today PP were payin £33 for a tenner on it
Craig, we’re talking to them re the bonus situation. Like all firms they will sometimes be biggest and sometimes smaller. But without sponsorship from firms like Betway we couldn’t run this site.
Any thoughts on the Getafe game later?
Considering having a punt on Higgins/Maguire double later too
Cheers Mr F re Barca I had £500 running on it was just looking to cover myself in case of a freak goal at 2-0 but once it went to 3 the pressure was off