IT wasn't to be for Johnb on Tuesday with a 4pt loss.

Our man is now 4.5pts down for May and has some short prices and a long one for Wednesday.

Johnb's Wednesday Tips

May 4.5 points down

Kelso 2:50
Always On The Run 15-8 Nap racebets

Chester 3:45
Green Door 25-1 racebets

Chelmsford City 8:45
Bowson Fred 7-4 NB racebets

Also 3 x 0.5pt doubles & 1 x 0.5pt treble



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  1. alanm 2 years ago

    NAP Mukaynis 13/2 3.45 Chester
    NB Supersta 5/2 6.15 Chelmsford
    They’re off and running Winter Alchemy 4/1 2.20 Kelso GL

  2. alanm 2 years ago


    Draw Bias: Strong – Over sprint trips stalls 1 & 2 win twice as often as they should. Anything beyond stall 8 is almost impossible to win from.

    Pace Bias: Strong – Hold-up horses are at a disadvantage as the turning track forces them to race further back than ideal.


    Draw Bias: Too early to say but looks fair.

    Pace Bias: The Polytrack surface has been riding deep with plenty of kick-back which might favour front-runners like Southwell.

    • smurf 2 years ago

      Doesn’t look for Green Door.

      • Johnb 2 years ago

        Smurf don’t be fooled by the draw angle it’s misleading

        • rale 2 years ago

          John, could you pls give more details, to why you think draw angle is misleading? Even more with a brutal drift of your fancy 40/1 now. I’ve googled Chester 5f draw bias and all I could see was low numbers are at advantage.

  3. gengar 2 years ago

    win yankee double stake on nap and nb
    2:10 Copper Knight 9/4 NAP
    7:15 Introductory 9/4 NB
    8:45 Welease Bwian 10/3 NNB
    5:00 Bakougan 11/8

    e/w singles
    3:10 Gang Warfare 12/1
    5:45 Gentlemen 9/1
    4:10 I’llhavealook 16/1

  4. mgreen68 2 years ago

    I thought it was 5 points lost yest?

  5. biggee 2 years ago

    3.10 Chester Silver Concorde @9/1 bog

  6. rookie 2 years ago

    8 hours ago
    Lots of fancies tomorrow.
    15.35 NA Fox appeal 6/1
    17.30 W Champagne to go 3/1
    18.45 C Lilly vega 13/2

    E/w fancies
    15.00 NA Aunty ann 12/1
    18.15 C Charlie bear 12/1
    15.10 Ch John reel 16/1

  7. rookie 2 years ago

    No worries e/w thief. Thanks for it. I had a quick look last night, it has a decent record at the track so i snapped up the 50/1 .

  8. 2 years ago

    ABIDJAN 2:30 newton abbot
    SOMEHOW 2:40 chester NAP
    MULK 4:55 chester

    5-2 treble

    gl happy days!

  9. nezhambo 2 years ago

    Hi Johnb Alan M says Draw Bias: Strong – Over sprint trips stalls 1 & 2 win twice as often as they should. Anything beyond stall 8 is almost impossible to win from > S0 his comments not mine that your tip in the 3.45 today looks impossible to win from sta11 13 But Johnb I am a big fan of yours and you often do the impossible, I follow you every day regardless so could you please shed a little bit of light on why you think Green Door can win from stall 13 thanks again Johnb for some great tips Regards Nez Hambo

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      The problem with relying on the draw at Chester is you are guaranteed to get far shorter odds on low drawn horses, if a low drawn horse is 6/1 then you can virtually guarantee the horse really should be 12/1+
      Green Door at 25/1 although I did go in again this morning at 40/1 really should be about 12/1
      The reason is everyone knows Chester is the shortest track around and you are nearly always running on a bend,

      I said earlier that it’s misleading, the reason is that on good to soft ground or worse the track gets turned up more than any other, because majority of horses stick to the inside its getting softer to run on and the better ground is on the outside
      In 5f races on good to soft or worse the highest stall number has won 3 of 6 races and stalls 1,2,3 have never won
      It will still dry out a bit today but the inside will still get cut up so we will see winners after the first 2 or 3 races coming down the outside
      Green Door should have the early pace to get near the front early, hopefully Raven with Jamie Spencer onboard so I can’t see the horse being more than 3 wide early

      Yes I do agree it is an advantage being drawn low, but only if you have a horse that can take advantage of it, which is why I have always said “too much attention is put on the draw when other factors need to be looked at”

      My only worry about Green Door is no headgear today

      • the notorious 2 years ago

        john, hav 2 agree with ur tip. Cowell stable on fire and Spencer booked, so defo one to be on ew at 25/1

  10. jimron12 2 years ago

    Almost impossible but can happen! And at 25/1 is take a place!

  11. stubhoy 2 years ago

    Dr Marwan Koukash

    Going with my usual Dr Koukash L15 on this first day at Chester.
    Every year he seems to do the business at this 3 day meeting and his trainer Richard Fahey always manages to have the charges fired and ready to go.

    3.10 Gabriel The Hero 16/1
    3.45 Growl 9/2
    4.20 Rene Mathis 12/1
    5.25 Antioco 17/2
    Good luck all

  12. ew thief 2 years ago

    Morning all
    STONEYFORD LANE 2.10C 12/1
    LA MAITRE CHAT 3.10C 14/1
    SEVE 3.45C 12/1
    BALLISTA 4.20C 50/1

  13. nezhambo 2 years ago

    Jimron12 Ive backed it e/w at 40-1 with Wm Hills

  14. rookie 2 years ago


    I am sure Green Door has a better chance of winning this race than say …. i don’t know…
    Leicester City winning the premiership!? Nothing is impossible!

    As Mr F always says , The odds reflect the chance/risk.

    It wouldnt be the first time for johnb to pick a double figured winner either.

  15. double carpet 2 years ago

    Morning all

    NAP BASSARABAD 3.25 kelso
    NB KIMBERELLA 3.45 chester
    Chester cup WILLIAM OF ORANGE EW

    Best of luck to all

  16. Johnb 2 years ago

    In the 3:45 race of the low drawn horses Kimbrella would have the best chance drawn 3 at 5/1 but again those odds are shorter than they should be

    • recoba 2 years ago

      But at 5/1 it would have been a nice tip John mate and wouldn’t take much convincing folk and wins!


  17. nezhambo 2 years ago

    Johnb thank you for your comment regarding the draw over 5f as always win or lose you know what you are talking about Regards Nez Hambo

  18. jimron12 2 years ago

    Chester cup quick jack to place is my nap

    Like Alanms nap that caught my eye last night too nice to see him nap it.

    Going on jb two shorter ones for the Yankee

    Also ew thiefs ballista and jb 25/1er in a little ew double

    Good luck all

  19. 2 years ago

    Morning everyone

    C 2.10 FIERY CHARACTER 11/10 NAP
    C 4.20 SIR MAXIMILLIAN 11/4 NB
    C 5.25 SOLDIER IN ACTION 4/1

    CF 7.15 INTRODUCTORY 4/1
    C 8.15 FIRST MOHICAN 3/1

    Good luck everyone

    happy days

  20. jimron12 2 years ago

    See Idaho has been kept out of Chester maybe because of us army ranger but is still in the lingfield trial Saturday I guess there won’t be much 25/1 left by end of the week……

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      Idaho wasn’t entered for the Chester Vase, he is still in the Dee Stakes at Chester on Friday
      He is also still entered in the Derby Trial at Lingfield but with soft and heavy going I would prefer him to miss that
      He is also entered for the Dante and I would prefer that race but can’t see him running in that

      • lobwedge 2 years ago

        Hi JB,
        He’s been taken out, just Lingfield and York left. Thought he ran a cracker in Ireland, last to first and just tiring in the last 100 to be 2nd, with Cook Islands well beaten 10 back.

  21. word2mother 2 years ago

    1510 Chest – Steve Rodgers 7/2 NAP
    1535 Newt – Portway Flyer 3/1 NB
    1645 Newt – Port Melon 4/1 Trixie
    1400 Newt – Black Corton 11/4 Yankee

    Standard NAP/NB, othet two up against short priced faves. BoL

    • word2mother 2 years ago

      1400 3rd, didnt fancy the fav, sadly didnt have enough in tough race.
      1510, steve rodgers was well positioned throughout, didnt have anything in run in.
      1535, portway flyer ran well and took the lead late on, pipped at the death by jf.

  22. on the bob 2 years ago

    One bet today:

    Chelmsford 7.15 cafoo 16/1

    Seems value in a race that lacks a strong Fav in my opinion.

    GL and enjoy Chester. Suns beaming in this part of the country.

  23. 2 years ago

    Afternoon all


    15.25 KK LEXION ..5/2. *

    16.35 CARINENA .. 7/2 ..** NB

    Newton Abbot

    15.00 LATE NIGHT LILY .. 5/4 . *** NAP ***

    16.45 SHUIL ROYALE .. 9/4 .. **

    gl all

    • 2 years ago

      thanks mate. doubled yr naps up! feeling confident about these today

      happy days!!

  24. 2 years ago

    not my own but been given RED BARON at Chester .

    gl all

    • 2 years ago

      unluck with yr tip mate. i know how it feels after yesterday. at least u won with yr other selection in the race! well done mate.

      happy days!

      • 2 years ago

        de niros cousin we all know who u r from years ago please just grow up with your pathetic childish comments act like a man for once in your sad cowardly life and do us all a favoour

        just grow up

  25. recoba 2 years ago

    One from me today,not so good last 2 days bar a few Ew bets so…
    Gabrial the Hero…3.10. 16/1 Ew

  26. 2 years ago

    Lots of talk about the draw at Chester today but I think the better issue is around the uncertainty of the ground so I will give it a miss.

    3:00 Newton Abbot – Mother Meldrum – NAP
    7:15 Chelmsford – Both Sides – NB

    Good Luck

  27. 2 years ago

    Bigger Issue not Better issue … sigh

    I hate auto correct.

    Trucking pile of grit.

  28. joshyboy3 2 years ago

    2.10 c stoneyford lane

  29. sheldy365 2 years ago

    Hello boys hoping for some winners again today been off for a couple of days but back with some tips today.

    Weapon of choice 4:35 Kelso 4/1 (backed it this morning at 7/1 and price still shortening)

    Maliga 4:20 Chester 9/4 NB

    Late night lilly 3:00 Newton abbot NAP 5/4

    Blacougan 5:00 tramore 13/8

    As well as backing my own selections following a staking plan I also use info from many tipping paid services. I have to say most are absolute crap and a waste of money but I got word about this horse a while ago from one of them and it’s very interesting. The horse is called powderonthebonnet and runs in the 4:10 at Newton Abbott. I backed the horse about a week a go the night before race day and got a very nice 8/1. The horse has tumbled down the weights and is 4lb below last winning mark and has been screaming out for good ground after plugging away in the mud which doesn’t suit.
    After I backed it the horse got hammered in the betting and was down to 11/8 before being withdrawn.
    I would of had a very big bet on it this time but this is a huge race and the 9/4 on offer isn’t very appealing. I’m hoping it gets withdrawn or even better Is unplaced so time so that when it next runs it will have even less weight and in a less competitive race with ground perfect I would have my Mac bet of 5pts on it.
    Anyway sorry for the rant but one to keep an eye on maybe?

  30. 2 years ago

    well done gengar! lovely start to the day. thanks

  31. jamiea1991 2 years ago

    deniros cousin, where is your cousin :o

    • 2 years ago

      hes an international jet setter so hell be cruising around in his private jet id imagine ?

  32. 2 years ago

    Deeee niroooooo
    Wer calling u out!!!!!!

  33. sheldy365 2 years ago

    What a gutter late night Lilly being brought down!
    I see you had also napped that busstop

  34. de niro 2 years ago

    What a gutter late night Lilly being brought down!
    I see you had also napped that busstop

  35. ryzo 2 years ago

    great shout theplug with no heretic.

  36. the notorious 2 years ago

    wp rookie with auntie ann 12/1

  37. recoba 2 years ago

    Squeaked a place with Gabrial the Hero 16/1 but well in plug with Heritic mate. ?

  38. 2 years ago

    get in there so heretic posted him last night 12/1

  39. 2 years ago

    thanks RYZO hope you were on

  40. recoba 2 years ago

    Spencer double coming up with Johns Green Door?
    If so he never be known as Frank again!

  41. 2 years ago

    de niros cousin did you back my nap,thanks RYZO

    • 2 years ago

      omg i didnt see it plug! ???

      • 2 years ago

        your tips are unreal. well done mate hope u won a few quid

    • wax 2 years ago

      Thanks for that one plug.Now go buy some phone credit out of your winnings like a good lad.

  42. the notorious 2 years ago

    judging by Spencers effort on Green Door, he was told not to knock the horse about

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      I was concerned about no headgear on and should have been concerned with Spencer, having one of the quickest out the stall horses being restrained out of the stalls by a jockey that virtually always sits at the back, bet was down after 2 seconds of the race
      Definite non trier

      • sheldy365 2 years ago

        I’m seeing it more and more jockeys that arnt trying and doing whatever they want on horses. if it was any other sport they would have to answer to somebody and they just get away with it. Makes me so mad when punters have money on them and they don’t at least try

  43. recoba 2 years ago

    John did mention the winner above earlier as well? 5/1 would have done me! ?

  44. kyri04 2 years ago

    Guys, I’m new to horse betting. How do you know which one is going to win? like what do you look for when selecting which horse to back? apart from odds obviously

  45. 2 years ago


  46. nazalus 2 years ago

    Kyri04..answer to your question of “How do you know what horse is going to win”
    YOU DONT….Its called gambling for a reason,if we KNEW which horse was going to win,we’d all be feckin Trillionaires lol……
    Seriously,follow guys on here,pick your tipsters carefully and you will be in profit at the end of the year.

  47. 2 years ago


  48. 2 years ago


    • wax 2 years ago

      I see the caps lock button is broke again plug. Enjoy your takeaway.

  49. kyri04 2 years ago

    Hello, Nazalus.

    Thanks for replying to me.

    I know that nobody knows but what do you guys look for in horses? as in, what do you look at and consider before picking which horse you think will win. Surely you don’t just pick at random!

    • Mr Fixit 2 years ago

      kyri04, of course they don’t pick them at random. It’s all down to research.

    • 2 years ago

      kyri04 i sometimes pick mine by going for the last one to have a ? before the start

      • nazalus 2 years ago

        Lol….personally,i follow Johnb,Double Carpet & Busstop,,,,,but not every horse they put up,i look at the form & stats of the race they are in,then whittle it down to Lucky 15 or Lucky 31,,,,,depending on my finances at the time.

  50. kyri04 2 years ago

    Guys maybe I’m not being clear in what i say. Im asking what they research? for example, do they look at form?

    • sheldy365 2 years ago

      Kyri04 different tipsters on here select horses all for different reasons. Some go for form, some might have connections in the stables that say the horse is progressing well. Some pick based on how they think the race will pan out for example if the race is going to be run at a really fast pace that might suit certain horse more than others. Some follow certain trends or jockey combos. Some people pick purely based on stats and strike rates. What I can tell you though is most people on here have their days when they pick winners and sometimes people have bad days but the goal is long term profit. If you stick to a staking plan and pick the right persons horses you can do really well. John b was 250pts up last month if you backed everything he said for a tenner that’s 2,500 quid up. I’ve had winners from de Niro, busstop and haggis but Alanm has his days so does boz and rookie they all have days where they do well it’s just a case of picking someone to follow or just back the horse that everybody puts Nap next to. You can’t back every horse on this thread nobody can it’s almost impossible. If I could tell you who to go with on which day is be a very rich man but I can assure you me thing follow the forum and check out what people have tipped and you will get winners. Last two days I’ve not had a winner but prior to that I was having two or 3 a day out of 4 and my Nap won 5 out of 7 times. But that’s racing. Hope all this helps

  51. 2 years ago

    wax are we going out saturday night

  52. ryzo 2 years ago

    well done alanm. great run by supersta. nice drift also.

  53. alanm 2 years ago

    6/1 NB Great drift :)

  54. recoba 2 years ago

    Ach were did my explanation go an sorry so late…

    Royal Milan…6.30. 13/2.

  55. word2mother 2 years ago

    Jb nap, Alanm nb both in, now need jbs NB for the treble and a little bit of breathing room, three lumps all failed today.

  56. recoba 2 years ago

    Give up keeps disappearing. Waiting on your NAP Alanm for 3-4 in my Yankee and it br a better return with that drift!
    Hopefully works other way as good £s for NAP ?

  57. gengar 2 years ago

    yay 9/1 booom

    and double stake on nap drifted to 11/4 nb and nnb to go happy days wd all winners today

  58. recoba 2 years ago

    Sorry Johns NAP! Not Alanms NAP ?

  59. alanm 2 years ago

    Well done all winners today Boz D/C gengar the plug De Hero :) recobra and anyone I missed sorry onwards we go :)

  60. jimron12 2 years ago

    Right lads got some serious time on my hands tonight so I’m gonna nail it tommorrow been average the last week or so need to improve !! Let’s have it!! Another 90/1 double I feel ;)

  61. jimron12 2 years ago

    Dark red 2.10
    Port Douglas 3.10
    Ode to evening 3,45
    Redeoszorro 4.20
    Reflektor 4.55

    Stairitect 3.20
    Shintori 5.05

    Shortlist will narrow down and write up later

  62. alanm 2 years ago

    NAP Storm Rising 7/2 3.10 Chester
    NB Alsaaden 7/1 4.55 Chester
    They’re off and running Perrault 10/1 2.10 Chester
    Gold Star Redrosezorro 20/1 EW 4.20 Chester GL

  63. jimron12 2 years ago

    Ode to evening 3,45 10/1 nb
    I’m willing to ignore the dreadful last run clearly didn’t want the step up in trip! and Doyle Back in the saddle 10/1 looks a lovey price

    Redeoszorro 4.20 20/1 ew
    Yard loves a two year old winner up here and looks a nice little prospect. 16/1 LOVLEY price again

    Reflektor 4.55 NB nap
    Money already coming for this into 5s now from 7s small rise in weights should be fine! Think it’s got some more Improvement in it and will take all the beating tomo!

    Stairitect 3.20 4/1 Yankee
    Unlucky at Cheltenham race wasn’t run to suit really. Aintree was too soft i feel and can be disregarded totally .Has been close to some hot handicaps and today is his day!!!

    Left off shortlist
    Shintori 5.05
    Dark red 2.10
    Port Douglas 3.10

    • jimron12 2 years ago

      Would also like to give high
      Grounds a mention very tough race but will improve for step up in trip!!

      • 2 years ago

        nice write up jimmy!! ill remember this nd impress the lads at work tomorrow. cheers!!

  64. word2mother 2 years ago

    Top boy! The money was for it, two 4pt bets tomorrow, all or nothing! ?

  65. rookie 2 years ago

    Profitable day and onto tomorrow. Obe that has caught my eye early is
    18.50 Wincanton Foundry square 10/1

  66. rookie 2 years ago

    14.10 Chester Felix de vega 7/1
    14.50 NA Maizy missile 5/1
    15.00 Utt Clubs are trumps 4/1
    17.25 Chester Modernism 12/1
    17.40 Carlisle Pekanheim 8/1

  67. rookie 2 years ago

    E/w fancy
    14.40 Ches Gabrial 9/1

  68. lobwedge 2 years ago


    Did you catch the interview by Nick Luck with Hugo Palmer on Periscope the evening of Galileo Golds win? Luck says “Last night I asked you if GG would win And you said, it’s not a question of winning, it’s by how far.” Palmer also said his head work rider called GG a “Freak”.

  69. 2 years ago

    i put this one up ew over two weeks ago and he finished 3rd at 14/1,so im given him another chance 2-30 uttoxeter SACRA MALTA 12/1

  70. gengar 2 years ago

    3:45 Above N Beyond 9/2 NAP
    4:55 Celebration 5/1 NB
    2:10 Master Of Finance 16/1 E\W

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