JOHNB was disappointed with his joint Nap/NB which lost and once again the finger was pointed at Black Cherry’s jockey Richard Hughes.

On a better note there was a fine win for Golden Horn who he tipped for the Eclipse and the Queen Elizabeth Stakes in three weeks.

Johnb’s Sundays Tips

Ayr 3.05
Ghostly Arc 9-2 Bet365, Paddy Power

Obsidian 4-1 NAP/NB Bet365 (double stake)

Ghostly Arc & Obsidian 26.5-1 Bet365

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  1. RobRoy 3 years ago

    Quick question

    How many points should I start with?

    I had a week off betting and started on July 1st with £20 which was 10 ‘Points’

    From 1st July to today 4th July the £20 including any winnings from the tips had been bet as £2 on each tip, £4 on the double stake Nap/Nb, and £1 on the doubles. If the 7.45pm tip loses I am at £0 and 0 ‘Points’ left to bet with.

    Thanks for any help

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      Mr Fixit 3 years ago

      RobRoy, 10pts isn’t enough – I always start with 100.

      • Tony R 3 years ago

        Mr F / JohnB

        If you start with 100 points do you deposit the funds at day 1 (presume not so you can use the best odds from various sites) for the total amount the 100 points equate too? Or add the funds as needed?

        Just trying to understand how you would begin..

        I’m on John B’s tips from tomorrow with £5 per point so i have deposited £20

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          Mr Fixit 3 years ago

          Tony R, it’s not as simple as depositing funds because you want the best prize. I tend to use six or seven different accounts and it’s about trying to keep track of what you’re doing. But the bank should start with a full amount – spare cash if you like. You shouldn’t be adding any funds after that.

          • Tony R 3 years ago

            Thanks Mr Fixit. Starting with a £500 betting bank (100 points, 1 points = £5) from tomorrow.

            If after one month your betting bank is in profit. For example after month 1, 26 points profit. Does month two begin with a betting bank of £630 (still 100 points) so going forward each point would be worth £6.30?

            I think i’m on the right lines now, unless i’m over complicating things!

  2. rensen 3 years ago

    3.05M AYR Ghostly Arc
    Backed this the other day as it went 6/1-3/1 then was listed as a non-runner.Connections expect it to win today (5th).
    Currently 4/1 but will get hammered.

  3. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Rob Roy , only bet with what you can comfortably afford to lose , if its 25p a point then so be it and let your bank grow slowly then increase the stakes which it will if you follow Johnb. I read a great quote..”Nobody ever bet enough on a winning horse” Bayer I think.GL

  4. Knight rider 3 years ago

    Last 2 races tonight guys Wat we thinking

  5. RobRoy 3 years ago

    Thanks guys, maybe I need to do £0.50 a point to begin with! Thanks

  6. Dariusz 3 years ago

    RobRoy, I suggest to take 1,5% (up to 2%) of your bankroll as 1 point, updated at the start of each month (so you’ll play with bigger stakes each month and maximize the use of your capital). I looked at the statistics, made some calculations and this stake (1,5%) looks really well with JohnB.

    With 1,5%, you can go as low as -66 points, which I believe JohnB will never even come close to.
    With 1,5%, considering an average profit of 20 points in February-May 2015, you can get 30% of profit a month. In June it was a massive 84% of profit.

    With 2% of the bankroll, the average monthly profit could be around 40% (112% in June!), but you’re safe to go only as low as -50 points, which isn’t that impossible (but I haven’t seen a loss bigger than 20 points with JohnB’s tips). So I’d stick with 1,5%.

    As your wealth increases (no doubt it will), you could start using a flat stake every month like £50 and withdraw any monthly profit.
    So really it’s up to you how much you are willing to risk and what staking plan you will use.

    Play it safe, play it slowly, play it daily, and you’ll be a rich man in a blink of an eye. Remember that even 10% of profit IN A MONTH is 10 times more than even the best companies have IN A YEAR.

    Find a bookmaker with good odds, use a “deposit bonus” (cash in 200, get 200 for free) and you’re good to go.

  7. Rookie 3 years ago

    14.30 Ayr Heavenly river 13/2
    15.35 Ayr Advance 4/1
    13.30 Ayr Smartie Artie 3/1
    16.45 Ayr Orbit the moon 7/1

  8. RobRoy 3 years ago

    Thanks a lot guys! :-)

  9. rawcs 3 years ago

    this horse was layed out for this race since it was declared yesterday. order of service 4:45 ayr tomorow.

  10. davyb 3 years ago

    stella etoile 1.30 ayr light of asia 2.00 ayr cloak and degas 4.45 ayr break my mind 5.10 fairy

  11. the watcher 3 years ago

    Golden horn proved today up to the last furlong how average this year’s 3 year olds are.
    The great Gatsby gave 11 pounds and was still there up to the final furlong.
    Off level weights, Gatsby holds on and wins, and Gatsby certainly wasn’t the top of the crop at his age group

  12. arsie 3 years ago

    Majestic queen 6/4 nap
    Waaheb 2/1 nb 5.10 fairy

  13. johnb 3 years ago

    The Watcher “Golden Horn proved today up to the last furlong how average this year’s 3 year olds are” ?

    For a start the race is 10 furlongs, not 9 so can’t really be judged on that.
    3 year olds always carry 8st 10lb in the Eclipse, 4+ year olds always carry 10st 7lb, and fillies get a 3lb allowance.
    These weights are set out to try and level the playing field.

    Horses like people developed with age, they get stronger, they bulk up, they get better.

    One of the best horses of the modern era “Sea The Stars” in 2009 also received 11lb from his elders but only won by one length, does that make him a bad horse?.

    One that sticks out to me was REFERENCE POINT in 1987
    He won the Dante and Derby just like Golden Horn, but was beat in the Eclipse by Mtoto,
    Reference Point went on to win The Great Voltigeur Stakes and the St Leger.

    As Frankie said yesterday, Golden Horn has always been left with something in the tank at the end of all his races,
    Frankie didn’t have to really go for it and Golden Horn won quite comfortably and it’s only three weeks till his next big test in the King George so Frankie was always going to do enough to win.

  14. johnb 3 years ago

    July 14.75 point loss

  15. rawcs 3 years ago

    johnb you rock my world

  16. boz 3 years ago

    glad i had no bet yesterday bookies filled their satchels

    and just one bet for me today

    A 2.30 MOON ARC

    good luck everyone

    happy days

  17. leicesterlad 3 years ago

    I fancy the double landing today john b fingers crossed

  18. Leewoody 3 years ago

    Morning all, I’m going for R Johnsons rides today at market rasen singles and treble

    2:15 mullinavat 12-1 ew
    3:20 jackthejourneyman 9-4
    4:25 teak 2-1

    Good luck

  19. JordanLK 3 years ago

    I’ll be adding TEAK 4.25 Market Rasen to JohnB’s selections for 3x doubles

    Gl to all

  20. BoB 3 years ago

    Valyssa monterg running in Ireland today,this has a very good chance of winning

  21. Alex MS 3 years ago

    @johnb, just to check, in past sometimes you have put 0.5 points on each double or treble.. Is it normally 1 point on doubles/trebles unless stated? Thanks in advance..

  22. pete k 3 years ago

    two I like today at each way prices making the rules 3.35 ayr 9/1 lads and doc charm 4.45 ayr 9/1 stan james.will also be on jbs nap.good luck everyone

  23. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Considered going to Ayr today but I can’t find anything that would pay for the petrol ,might throw some darts at the card and do a placepot Good Luck of you are getting involved .

  24. The Postman 3 years ago

    4:10 Ayr – Obsidian (NAP)

  25. double carpet 3 years ago

    Morning all
    another wet morning so lazing around till it brightens up later

    NAP BISHOPS ROAD 7/2 4.50 lim
    Needs to win this to get into the galway plate

    NB AINIPPE 9/4 3.30 fairy
    hopefully the extra furlong will help as he does his best work in the latter stages when running over 6f

    EW Dark Crystal 14/1
    Twice a winner at the course, once over c&d and both times off 59 and is off 58 today.

    Best of luck to all

  26. De Niro 3 years ago

    Good profits yesterday of 25 POINTS UP to take this weeks total to 44 POINTS UP up added to last weeks total of 39 POINTS UP to give 83 POINTS UP on the last fortnight :-)

    Proves having a rest is good to re charge the batteries :-)

    15-35 Ayr
    Another For Joe 14/1 e/way ladbrokes/coral/w/hill
    16=10 Ayr
    Sound Advice 8/1 e/way ladbrokes/coral

    14-45 Market Rasen
    Dino Mite 5/4 coral
    3-50 Market Rasen
    Perfect Timing 3/1 s/james

    good luck everyone today and rest of week
    Back next Saturday with any selections 😉

  27. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    DC dark crystal entered again tomorrow in a class 6 Megan Carberry booked GL

  28. double carpet 3 years ago

    Cheers duncan

  29. dougiec 3 years ago

    Afternoon all,tricky,picking a value winner today so might as well Orbit the Moon ew and stick remaining daily stake on IFK,Gothenburg 4.30.K.O
    Gl all Might as well throw ten bob on double carpets as well.

  30. RedDragonRacing 3 years ago

    Ayr 14:00 – Haymarket (NAP)
    Ayr 15:05 – Ghostly Arc
    Ayr 15:35 – Advance
    Ayr 16:10 – Obsidian
    Ayr 16:45 – Doc Charm
    Ayr 17:10 – Red Invader

  31. busstop 3 years ago

    Hi all




    gl all

  32. dougiec 3 years ago

    Unsolicited E Mail..Making the Rules..3.35..14/1 into 8/1

  33. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Morning lads
    ARGAKI 3.35A
    DOC CHARM 4.45A
    GL ALL

  34. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Going to throw some change at Rogue Runner e/w in the German Derby ,Hamburg 4.10 Osin Murphy goes to ride I know its his job but Qatar Racing thought enough of the horse to bring it over to Epsom 9th behind Golden Horn 20/1 GL.

  35. arsie 3 years ago

    Waaheb non runner so il throw in chief of panama as nb 7/1 3.10 limerick

  36. Deeman 3 years ago

    Mysterial (NB)
    Royal Duchess
    Finn Class (Nap)
    Orbit the moon (Iwac)
    White Flag

    Boston Oscar
    Sizing Sahara
    Chief of Panama
    Sizing platinum
    Hoyadoing (nap)

  37. Deeman 3 years ago

    Tiger twenty two
    Enchanted garden
    The omen
    Perfect timing (Nap)
    Kelvin groove
    Cut the corner
    Heading to the first (nb)

    whiskey sour
    Chilli billie (nap)
    Majestic queen
    Frozen lake
    Break my mind (nb)

  38. rensen 3 years ago

    Posted last night
    3.05PM AYR Ghostly Arc
    Backed this the other day as it went 6/1-3/1 then was listed as a non-runner.Connections expect it to win today

  39. James 3 years ago

    Really hope your right Rensen.

  40. James 3 years ago

    Big gamble on Wolf Heart – you know whats coming now.

  41. James 3 years ago

    Told you – this game is corrupt as fcuk.

    Money from nowhere comes for Wolf Heart and he wins Unreal.

  42. PeteT 3 years ago


    Dont know how your draw the conclusion racing is corrupt from money being placed on him before the off???

  43. Phil 3 years ago

    Wolf heart won?

  44. Delmar44 3 years ago

    I think James is right. Why do you think these jockeys have meetings before the start. It’s to decide who is going to win what race. Form, ground, stats and all that means nothing..

  45. PeteT 3 years ago


    I don’t think that’s the case.

    You couldn’t plan a dead heat if you tried!

    If your horse wins it’s a great pick, if it loses the sport is corrupt.


    I agree sometimes jockeys don’t help but corruption – nah. Riding to owner or trainers instructions – now that’s a fair call (and they may have their own reasons for the instructions they give).

  46. Kinga 3 years ago

    Spokesperson won didn’t it???

  47. James 3 years ago

    No it was a dead heat between Spokesperson and Wolf Heart

  48. Kev 3 years ago

    Well done ew thief and dc . Wasn’t on either !! Just got in

  49. James 3 years ago

    Unlucky on Another For Joe De Niro, looked the winner for a good while.

  50. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Cheers kev on we go

  51. Deeman 3 years ago

    Finn Class :)

  52. De Niro 3 years ago

    Good day again :-)
    More profit to add to the pot;

    4 bets advised profit on 3 out of 4 !
    75% strike rate 😉

    Good lucks anyone with horses still to run

    Back in a weeks time for Saturday all being well :-)

  53. arsie 3 years ago

    Seconditus for d second day in a row for me . Hope for better tommorrow . Gluck wit rest of d day

  54. Deeman 3 years ago

    Sizing platinum :)

  55. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Top stuff de niro again

  56. Dariusz 3 years ago

    What does the “V” mean in a horse’s form? Look at Teak’s form in 4.25 Market Rasen:

  57. Champy R 3 years ago

    Void race I think Dariusz

  58. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    E/W Thief,De Niro,DC,Busstop well done lads,glad I never went to Ayr as I might have had to walk home GL

  59. rawcs 3 years ago

    de niro if u need a joiner to widen your door frames for your big head to fit through i can recommend one lol

  60. dougiec 3 years ago

    Rawcs you could always tell him when the next one is being laid out literary. He is almost up with davyb

  61. Trickytjm 3 years ago

    Heading To First 5.30 MR for me

  62. Unlucky15 3 years ago

    Heading to first

  63. john 3 years ago

    midnight Thomas 5:30 4/1

  64. rawcs 3 years ago

    i was only joking dougiec! have a great deal of respect for de niro’s opinion. im sure he knows i was just playing

  65. Macb 3 years ago

    Hi john b . We’re off to the St leger meeting at the Doncaster meeting . Any help ta.

  66. dougiec 3 years ago

    OK mate that’s him Some great lads on here
    On wards

  67. De Niro 3 years ago

    Strongest bet for Monday

    14-50 Worcester

    Foundation Man 5/1 Coral Nap/Nb

    My uncle Jonjo tell me this is going to win 😉

  68. rawcs 3 years ago

    lol de niro 😀

  69. Dariusz 3 years ago


    Nap: 2.50 Worcester – Marie Des Anges 2/1
    NB: 7.25 Windsor – Lady Kyllar 4/1
    2 singles and 1 double advised.

  70. Dariusz 3 years ago


    Good video of yesterday’s Golden Horn’s run.

  71. Rookie 3 years ago

    14.35 A Cadeaux Pearl 4/1
    18.55 W Just Because 9/2
    18.25 W Edification 3/1
    15.05 A Orient Sky 9/2

  72. Rookie 3 years ago

    Early gooj may be biotic or day of the eagle

  73. cobramint 3 years ago

    Sheet week but we’ve all been here before. Onwards and upwards. In johnb we trust :-))

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