Jan 18: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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JOHNB had no Tuesday tips so no damage done.

There were plenty of winners though from the regulars so well done to everyone.

Johnb is 31.75pts down for the month and yesterday posted two antepost tips for Saturday.

Johnb’s Wednesday Tips

Lingfield 12.50
Strong Challenge 5-2 NAP bet365

Newbury 2.20
Max Ward 11-4 NB bet365

Double 12.13-1 bet365

Strong Challenge NAP

Godolphin don’t usually keep faith with a horse but they have here. Usually they are moved on but it’s easy to see why this horse has been kept, I have said it before sometimes a horse just doesn’t train on from 2 to 3 but then find their feet later and Strong Challenge could be one of those horses as his first run this season was a lot better.

As a 2yo Strong Challenge was a horse that beat Gutaifan at Goodwood, after that race Gutaifan went on to run six more times winning four and second in another to Shaala in the group one Prix Morney before ending his career well beaten in the group one Prix de l’abbaye.

Strong Challenge went on to run in the group two Vintage Stakes on only his third run finishing 14 lengths behind 2000 Guineas winner Galileo Gold. He then didn’t train on for his 3yo career with three poor performances but as I said his return this season was a lot better and on a handicap mark of 84 here he could be a good thing.

Max Ward NB

This race is far weaker for this horse and I tipped him last time, for anyone who just reads form it says Max Ward was held in fifth when falling last time but I have watched that race many times and although he probably might not have won he was not held at the time but as I say this race is weaker. Two races ago he was running at Sandown against Altior in a grade one where he was out of his depth but he jumped and acquitted himself well enough and for this race he is clearly the one to beat.

Johnb’s Saturday Anteposts

Rossington Main Hurdle
Haydock 2.50

Elgin 5-2 NAP/NB Skybet (double stake)

Peter Marsh Handicap Chase
Haydock 3.15

Alary 3-1 Skybet

ALARY & ELGIN double 13-1 skybet

Antepost Tips

  • 1000 Guineas 2017 – PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 Betfred (now 25-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – CHURCHILL 20-1 bet365 (now 6-4)
  • 2017 Derby – CHURCHILL 33-1 Racebets (now 7-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets (now 33-1)

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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48 Comments
  1. Profile photo of davyb
    davyb 9 months ago

    swiss cross 12.50 lin
    Epsom day 2.30 lin
    bazwind 3.35 lin
    encapsulated 4.05 lin

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    paddy irishman 9 months ago

    NAP Potter’s Corner 2.55 Newbury
    NB Kilcrea Vale 2.40 market rasen
    Nietzsche 3.45 market rasen
    Strong Challenge 12.50 Lingfield

    Good luck with your bets

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    fraser51 9 months ago

    Interesting your NAP is my selection for tomorrow.

    Bought for 200k, won at goodwood and hasn’t met expectations since. Now gelded and in a low rated race. Should be a class above. Probably the horse last chance under godolphin.

    Managed to get 3/1 earlier, opened at 4/1!

    Strong Challange 3/1 – 2pts

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      elvis parsley 9 months ago

      John b

      I don’t think Bristol de mai will oppose alary.
      I reckon he will go to Ascot for the shorter distance race as he clearly doesn’t stay 3 miles.

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        Johnb 9 months ago

        Hopefully Bristol De Mai doesn’t run as it would make it easier for his first run but I can see other horses not turning up either like Definitely Red,
        I was surprised Colin Tizzard went for this race for Alary as it takes a very special horse to win a handicap like this from a mark of 162
        The handicapper has rated this horse just 9lb lower than Thistlecrack and he hasn’t even had a run here yet

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    Strong Challenge NAP

    Godolphin don’t usually keep faith with a horse but they have here,
    Usually they are moved on but it’s easy to see why this horse has been kept, I have said it before that sometimes a horse just doesn’t train on from 2 to 3 but then find their feet later and Strong Challenge could be one of those horses as his first run this season was a lot better.
    As a 2yo Strong Challenged was a horse that beat Gutaifan at Goodwood, after that race Gutaifan went on to run six more times winning four and second in another to Shaala in the group one Prix Morney before ending his career well beaten in the group one Prix de l’abbaye,
    Strong Challenge went on to run in the group two Vintage Stakes on only his third run finishing 14 lengths behind 2000 Guineas winner Galileo Gold,
    Strong Challenge then didn’t train on for his 3yo career with three poor performances but as I said his return this season was a lot better and on a handicap mark of 84 here he could be a good thing

    Max Ward NB

    This race is far weaker for this horse and I tipped him last time, for anyone that just reads form it says Max Ward was held in fifth when falling last time but I have watched that race many times and although he probably might not have won he was certainly not held at the time but as I say this race is weaker, two races ago he was running at Sandown against Altior in a grade one where he was out of his depth but he jumped and acquitted himself well enough and for this race he is clearly the one to beat

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    rilester 9 months ago

    NAP Viking Mistress 2.10 M Rasen
    EW Audacious Plan 2.55 Newb

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    albion 9 months ago

    Lingfield 12:50 Flying Fantasy ew @20/1 Bet365.

    Ran no type of race last time out under Pat Cosgrove. Was the horses first run for 6 months tho so easy to forgive. Aaron Jones is on board tomorrow and he’s 4/5 when riding this one.

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    alanm 9 months ago

    NAP Global Revival 2/1 3.35 Lingfield
    NB Potters Corner 5/2 2.55 Newbury GL

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Nap kings odessey 2.40 11/4

    Also like two been mentioned by a few in

    Potters corner 2.55 5/2
    Strong challenge 12.50 11/4

    Single on the nap and a round robin for the 3! Good luck all let’s
    Keep the winners coming 👍

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    Tennis
    Australian Open women

    Just started, worth an interest
    Natalia Vikhlyantseva 6/4 to beat Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova

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    tipsultan 9 months ago

    Market Rasen
    2.40 – Three Musketeers 5/2- 1 point
    3.15 – Unzing 7/4 (NAP/NB)- 2 points
    1 point double on the above..

    Singles
    Lingfield- 12.50- Dutch Golden Age- 7/1
    Newbury- 1.50- Joueur Bresilien- 4/1

    (6 points total today)

    Good Luck

    January- Profit- +1.97 points

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    kirantotti365 9 months ago

    Lingfield
    14:00

    DAREBIN is a decent performer over hurdles who can take full advantage of what looks a weak event on paper with Hector Crouch taking off a valuable 3lb and he should appreciate the step up in distance.

    Kempton
    16:50

    ATHASSEL followed up his 6f victory at Wolverhampton when scoring by a neck over 7f at the same venue last time and hasn’t been hit hard with a recent 2lb rise. David Evans’ charge steps back up to a mile here but has stayed the distance in the past when trained in Ireland and is expected to go in once again for his in-form handler.

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    gollum2882 9 months ago

    Lin 12.50 – mr christopher 20/1
    Lin 3.35 – poetic force 11/4
    kem 4.50 – athassel 7/4 NAP
    kem 5.20 – dreaming of paris 6/4 NB

    my 4 for today.

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    trigger 9 months ago

    Epsom day-2.30 lingfield

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    9 months ago

    hi everyone

    L 2.30 – Major Ben –
    L 3.05 – Chupalla – NB
    L 3.35 – Global Revival –
    L 4.05 – Encapsulated – NAP

    Good luck everyone

    Happy Days

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    azzthewigan 9 months ago

    monbeg Oscar 1.00 wicked willy 1.35 nap ascot day 3.05 nb brooks point 4.20 well done all winners yesterday

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    ew thief 9 months ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    Three of a kind 1.35m 13/2
    Epsom day 2.30l 8/1
    Cusheen bridge 2.40m 40/1
    Bob tucker 2.55n 12/1
    West leake 4.50k 16/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky31 🍀Gl all

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    harryjw 9 months ago

    Morning all,

    Yesterday was not a bad day at all with Rowdy Rocher securing a 1.25 point profit- every little helps! I’ve been waiting to see if Newbury will get the go ahead for today’s racing.

    14.55 Newbury – Monbeg Gold 8/1 EW

    If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times- first time blinkers can work wonders at unlocking untapped potential in horses. The stats for horses in first time blinkers are favorable and it’s a tactic I often use in my betting. Jonjo reaches for the blinkers today on Monbeg Gold and it could result in him putting that poor run last time behind him. He produced a good display on chase debut at Fontwell but his run last time was too bad to be true. He was a very useful hurdler winning two decent handicaps in similar conditions. At around 8/1 he rates as a good each way bet in my book. (0.75 pnts each way).

    Many thanks and GL to all.

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    9 months ago

    Trigger bit late today pal doctors appointment. nice to be missed though .

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      9 months ago

      had a good few months thanks but you got nothing better do with your life so keep the crap talk coming or grow up.

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        swcfc1888 9 months ago

        This annoys me, it’s supposed to be a community where folk can ask advice and give tips yet there’s always the small minority trying to ruin it for everyone else with smart comments. The guys that are doing all the research deserve more credit than they get, keep up the good work mate

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    9 months ago

    Afternoon all Good day yesterday 2 winners including nap 2/1 11/2.

    NEWBURY

    13.50 HIDDEN CARGO

    14.55 BRANDON HILL

    15.55 BANG ON FRANKIE

    MARKET RASEN

    13.35 BRIAN BORANHA

    14.40 KILCREA VALE

    gl all

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    thehawk 9 months ago

    If he had a NAP he would have had Nap beside 1 of them its no rocket science no Nap level stakes on all.

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    swcfc1888 9 months ago

    Cheers mate lol lesson learned

  22. Profile photo of
    9 months ago

    waxi any sensible question no problem but when you get asked the same question everyday for a month it becomes annoying like i say just some guy with many accounts with nothing better to do with his life manipulating the thread

    igonre guys and mr f will sort

    thanks

  23. Profile photo of
    9 months ago

    jim been suggested a few times to give a couple of the regulars moderation control

    alanm mentioned it a while back also

  24. Profile photo of
    9 months ago

    poor day for me so far 3 losers can only improve

    gl all

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    tipsultan 9 months ago

    Three Musketeers won @7/2…

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    9 months ago

    brandon hill wins 11/2 saves my day

    gl all

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    9 months ago

    tipsultan well done yourself

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      Mr Fixit 9 months ago

      Tidied it up – can’t do anything if I’m not about.
      Scott’s ill as well. Admin did talk about having moderators and I’ll see what the latest is on that.
      Until then please ignore the troll. When comments are spotted they’ll be deleted.

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    Mr Fixit 9 months ago

    We know who you are – and maybe you should try to get a life.

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    alanm 9 months ago

    One of those days Tardis was in getting serviced hopefully back to normal tomorrow onwards we go.

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    joshyboy3 9 months ago

    Had a tip in the 5.20 kempton
    Persisten

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    alanm 9 months ago

    Well done busstop and tipsultan on a hards day racing.

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    January 34.75pts down

    Thursday’s Tips

    I was going to advise Warm Words at Southwell on Thursday as it looks one of the biggest certainties ever although after some rides recently I don’t know,
    Anyway although 5/4 was available it didn’t last long as most people have realised this horse should be about 1/4

    Chelmsford
    6:25
    Regarde Moi 10/3 NB bet365

    7:00
    Serenade The Stars 9/4 NAP bet365

    Double 13.08/1 bet365

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    duncanpoundcake 9 months ago

    Bit surprised to get 7/1 for Money Wing 3.20 W ,GL.

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