Jan 13: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat


JOHNB landed a tidy seven-point profit on Tuesday thanks to Summer Chorus winning at 7-2.

January is now a 2.08pt profit for our man who is aiming for more of the same on Wednesday.

Johnb’s Wednesday Tips

Chelmsford City 2:55
Pactolus 3-1 NAP ladbrokes

Taunton 3:10
Pull The Chord 15-8 NB bet365 hills betvictor

Kempton 5:10
Bamako Du Chatelet 5-1 bet365 ladbrokes

Also 3 x 0.5 point doubles and 1 x 0.5 point treble at ladbrokes odds 3-1 13-8 5-1

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  1. Profile photo of duncanpoundcake
    duncanpoundcake 3 years ago

    Only Ten Percent 6.40 Kempton usual 20/80 GL.

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    ramey07 3 years ago

    Thoughts on 610 john or anyone?

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    3 years ago

    Am going for Grand Introduction Taunton 2.10 15/8 Skybet
    This horse ran in quite a hot Novice hurdle last time especially for Southwell ran a decent race form could not have worked out much better 2 winners have came out the race already with the winner Singlefarmpayment winning a class 2 at Cheltenham.
    This race looks terrible hopefully he might make all the running and 15/8 will look a big price tomorrow.

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      3 years ago

      Really poor hammered into 8/11 then wandered around when hitting the front not good enough

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    davyb 3 years ago

    crazy 1.25 ch
    morney wing 2.40 taunt
    only ten percent 6.0 kem
    lutine Charlie 7.10 kem

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    ciaran1988 3 years ago

    3.55 Chelmsford

    Welease Brian 3/1

    5.40 Kempton

    Good Judge 7/4

    7.10 Kempton

    Bridge Builder 3/1

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    rookie 3 years ago

    13.55 Chelm Scot daddy 4/1
    13.25 Chelm Crazy 4/1
    15.25 Chelm Rose above 3/1
    18.40 Kemp Gold beau 10/1

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    wmgy 3 years ago

    1.55 Chelmsford
    Schottische 11/2

    2.40 Taunton
    Top Wood 11/4

    3.10 Taunton
    Here’s Herbie 10/1

    6.40 Kempton
    Nasri 10/1

    Some decent racing tomorrow – should be fun.

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    caddie 3 years ago

    hi guys
    was looking for your thoughts on sky bets offer on faugheen to win champion hurdle 5 length or more 5/2 thanx

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    ramey07 3 years ago

    Never bet on distances as theres always 1 that can beat anything i say but what do i know

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    gengar 3 years ago

    6:10 Chookie royale 11/8 NAP
    2:40 top wood 11/4 NB
    1:55 scott daddy 3/1 NNB
    1:25 Zakatal 4/1 (added for yankee)

    4:10 goal 16/1 (golden egg) e/w

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    donny 3 years ago

    Ew Kempton trixie

    610 – Intransigent 6/1
    640 – Compton Prince 10/1
    710 – Lutine Charlie 7/1


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    donny 3 years ago

    Win trixie

    Taunton 210 – grand introduction 6/4
    Taunton 310 – pull the chord 13/8
    Kempton 540 – Good judge 6/4

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    chilleden 3 years ago

    I see Rebecca Curtis has one runner today, Highway Storm in the 1.10 at Taunton. I am going to back it on the basis that I fancy the trainer. That is about as far as my racing knowledge goes though I am learning from you guys.

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      rale 3 years ago

      I don’t know if you fancy her as a trainer, or…but I am just watching her on ATR and she is a hottie.

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        pablo0110 3 years ago

        Hopefully this is so unbelievable you will believe me………..I actually went to school with Rebecca, she was two years above me at Fishguard High School down in Pembrokeshire. It’s amazing to see what she has achieved, At the Races did a good feature on her yesterday, hope you saw it

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    3 years ago

    Morning all


    13.1 0 A PLEIN TEMPS 10/3 NB
    14.40 MURRAYANA 9/2 NAP
    16.10 OLYMPIAN BOY 9/1 E/W

    gl all

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    mattcroc 3 years ago

    Morning everyone. No luck in three for me tipping on here so here is hoping for a change today.

    610 Chookie Royale (NAP)
    240 Top Wood (NB)

    NAP is fairly self explanatory although it is also the longest traveller today which I hope shows they are sending it to do the business.
    NB ran well last time but was too keen after an absence.

    GL All and keep the great tips coming. I love this site and everyone’s input.

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    mattcroc 3 years ago

    Sorry – Missed prices on this post.

    610 Chookie Royale 5/4
    240 Top Wood 11/4

    Both with Bet 365

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    jimron12 3 years ago

    Nap pull the chord 3.10
    NB murrayana 2.40
    Ew tactical manoeuvre 2.10

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    swany 3 years ago

    Taun 4-10 Triple Chief

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    biggee 3 years ago

    One bet today 3.10 taunton TORNADO IN MILAN ew @11/1 bog no write up today but horse loves it round here fav looks strong so each way bet but you never know. Gd luck.

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    on the bob 3 years ago

    Good day on the thread yesterday. Today I’ll keep my mouth shut as I’m busy but I do have a nap.

    Chelmsford 2.55 cottesloe 10/1

    I’ve seen its against jbs nap and my reasoning for this horse is the same as my Monday pick by rights. Which won.

    I like bottom weights and more specifically bottom weights that have run good races when racing near the top of the weights in runs before this. Just like this horse. I know it means it’s meant to be the worst horse in the race but it’s a method that works for me and I’m sure trainers do this for a very good reason. To get the win.

    I’ve backed it 1pt win and 1pt place.

    Fingers crossed.

    GL today

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    Treve, Flintshire, Dolniya, Manatee, Meleagros, Feodora ?

    From a Group 1 at Saint-Cloud to a class 5 at Kempton

    Yes the most talked about horse today is making that transition and runs in the 5:10

    ALTAIRA 16/1 rated 66 today last run was against those horses, but was beaten 132 lengths by Treve that day, that’s over 2 furlongs behind the double Arc winner and used as a pacemaker
    Can the horse win?
    I don’t think so

    My pick Bamako Du Chatelet is on a very low mark of 58

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    alanm 3 years ago

    NAP Duke Of North 3/1 6.40 Kempton
    NB Thane Of Cawdor 5/1 5.10 Kempton

    GOLD STAR Alben Star 7/1 6.10 Kempton GL

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      Johnb 3 years ago

      Duke Of North was on my shortlist for today’s tips,
      Given too much to do last time but given a very easy ride

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        alanm 3 years ago

        He had a bad draw last race today he will be all systems go from a good draw.

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      jimron12 3 years ago

      Haven’t looked into kempton yet but may not need to mate 😉

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    30p rule 4 now in the 2:55 thanks to Stuart Williams pulling out the favourite and stablemate of mine

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    3 years ago

    Hi everyone

    C 1.55 HIERARCH 9/2

    C 3.25 TSEO 4/1 NAP

    C 3.55 ZIPEDEEDODAH 9/2

    all prices bet365

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    wullieboy 3 years ago

    Say my name 1.10 T. Rose above 3.25 c. Phyllis maud 5.40 K

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    Hugh Taylor going against my Nap again

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    alanm 3 years ago

    Great story we all dream about.
    Everyone who goes to the track has dreams of winning big. They want their horse to take first place and the odds be high enough that they walk away rich.

    In the past, dreaming of a big win hasn’t been enough for some. These people have actively tried to skew the odds in their favour through a coup. Some coups are out and out illegal while others are legal even if they are on shaky moral ground.

    Once uncovered, these coups quickly gain legendary status because people seem enthralled by these men who play such a high stakes game between right and wrong to win big. Here’s a famous betting coup that falls in the illegal category.

    Gay Future, an Imposter Horse
    This is the story about a horse called Gay Future and how it was the centre of a huge betting sting in the 1970s.

    The Players
    Tony Murphy was an Irish millionaire who made his money from construction. He worked closely with Antony Collins who trained the horse in question, called Gay Future. Tony Murphy was considered the leader of the group that numbered five people and later came to be called the Cork Syndicate or the Cork Mafia.

    Over the period of a year, Murphy carefully planned what should have been the perfect betting coup and might have been if not for some small mistakes. Gay Future was born and raised at the stables of Edward O’Grady.

    Ahead of the Big Race
    Over the course of a year, these two men had sent an inferior horse to races in Scotland to ensure Gay Future would appear to be a long shot. This helped to establish reviews of Gay Future as a poor performer and raise the odds of him winning.

    Both horses were chestnut colored and shared similar marking. You have to remember that this was the 1970s, and there weren’t a lot of circulating photos of the horses. On race day at Cartmel, the odds of Gay Future winning were 10/1.

    Race Day
    On race day in August of 1974, these men used soap to make it appear that the horse was sweating up and keep betters uninterested in the horse. They bet on Gay Future as part of a double or triple ticket with Opera Cloak and Anderwyke who were later withdrawn from the race, making it a single bet as per the custom of the time.

    Murphy had six friends circling throughout the United Kingdom, making small bets of around £5, £10 and £20. These were small enough not to arouse suspicion. Since all of the bets were made off site, the bookies that determined the odds – i.e. at the track – didn’t notice the flutter of activity around Gay Future.

    Suspicions Aroused
    The trainers claimed the reason for Opera Cloak and Anderwyke removal from the race was that their horse trailer had broken down on the side of the road. This was one of the first things to unravel when a reporter called the horses’ home stables to find that the horse had been at the stable all day long. The reporter’s curiosity had been roused when news of the big winnings for Gay Future turned out to be linked to bets with these two horses.

    Viewers at the racetrack were shocked when Gay Future won the race by 15 lengths. His reviews in past races had made this seem almost impossible. Of course, the viewers didn’t know that they were watching a different horse race than the one who had been reviewed.

    Initially, the coup worked and the men collected an equivalent of $3 million in today’s money although some bookies refused to pay out when they learned of the scam. Eventually, Murphy and Collins were brought up on charges of trying to defraud the betting establishments. Both men were fined and banned from racing in Britain for a period of 10 years – although some might say they were lucky they weren’t convicted of attempted fraud. Just goes to show the fine line between a clever legal betting coup and stepping over that line into the unlawful.

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    alanm 3 years ago

    This is so true Hugh Taylor is undoubtedly one of the best tipsters around with a superb record over the last six years of over 1900 points profit at a return on investment of over 29%.

    Sadly though it doesn’t seem profitable to follow his tips, unless you are incredibly fast at getting your bets on as soon as his tips are sent out.

    However, even if you did that we expect the bookies would catch on pretty quick and you could have your accounts limited as you can be sure the bookies are aware of Hugh’s tips.

    So unless Hugh considers a more selective service – perhaps paid and limited to a certain number of members – then it is probably one to leave alone unfortunately

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    davisam 3 years ago

    Gonna go against everyone in the 2:55 @ Kempton
    Berlusca 1pt E/w @ 15/2
    3:25 Kempton
    Tseo 1pt @ 4/1

    0.5 pt double

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    ew thief 3 years ago

    Afternoon all well done winners yesterday
    Malaysian boleh 2.25c
    Secret asset 3.55c
    Im harry 5.10k
    New rich 6.40k
    Gl all

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    ciaran1988 3 years ago

    2.55 Chelmsford

    Pactolus 6/5

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    Pactolas (NAP)

    Stuart Williams was holding all the cards in this race with the front two in the betting, but the withdrawl of Oakley Girl it now means there is a 30p rule 4
    That’s disappointing because although Oakley Girl was favourite, I was confident in Pactolus being his main horse.

    Winner of a handicap class 5 then a class 4 he went back to Chelmsford for a class 2 last time out, beaten only 2 lengths by Power Game and only just behind Ansaab and Solar Deity.
    What makes that run so eye catching was that Pactolus was running from 8lb out of the handicap, he was also running tight to the inside rail down the straight so was also on the slower ground.

    Today he is back down to a class 4 and with him due to go up 4lb after today means he is 4lb well in on the handicap “carrying 4lb less” which makes him the standout horse in the race and now the worthy favourite

    30p rule 4 means we are getting 2.7/1 on an even money favourite

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    Decent ride from Lulu Stanford to get 2nd on the outsider Schottische

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    linfieldaces 3 years ago

    Very impressed there with Gentleman ran a very good race once the space appeared

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    3 years ago

    Another peach of a winning ride from Josephine Gordon this girl is definetely going places

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    3 years ago

    cheers guys always good get the first one in and 5/1 like you say ray day paid for

    happy days

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    linfieldaces 3 years ago

    stevieg agreed mate only really got into horses past 6mths and starting to get to know jockeys trainers etc much to the credit of the lads/lassies on here with some great info.From the sounds being made about Josephine is she definitely is someone to look out for.Seems to ride very smoothly and astute.Will be keeping an eye on her myself.Hardlines on the nap johnb on your NB.Good luck

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      3 years ago

      Linfieldaces the amount of rides she is now picking up tells you what the trainers think of her and her 6 pound claim which wont last long at this rate.
      She has a great strike rate and level stakes profit for todays trainer Phil McEntee shame a’m not a big lover of the all weather buts shes defo 1 to keep your eye on.

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    jamiea1991 3 years ago

    Lets hope for the lucky last to recoup the points…

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    davisam 3 years ago

    3:40 Looks an open race so I’m going with an outsider, price looks big.

    ALF WRIGHT @ 33/1 – 1pt E/W

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    davisam 3 years ago

    Would have put up Chance Du Roy but thought it looked so open I’d go with an outsider…

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    chilleden 3 years ago

    Busstop you absolute legend. 16 to 1 Olympian Boy! Absolutely fantastic!

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    on the bob 3 years ago

    Well done to the winners today. Nice to see a winner from Taunton by bus top.

    Well my bottom weight came last on this occasion but that’s racing.

    2 from Kempton for me. E/W on these:

    6.10 Hallelujah 7/1
    6.40 Compton prince 18/1


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    on the bob 3 years ago

    Comment in moderation so I’ll just keep it short instead.

    Kemp 6.10 hallelujah 7/1
    Kemp 6.40 Compton prince 18/1

    Both e/w for me.


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    Johnb 3 years ago

    January 2.92 point loss

    Thursday’s Tips

    Jarir 15/8 bet365 william hill

    Cat O’Mountain 9/4 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

    Jarir & Cat O’Mountain 8.34/1 bet365

    I was only expecting to have one bet Thursday because I thought Cat O’Mountain would have been a shade of odds on

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      Johnb 3 years ago

      Joint NAP/NB tips this year has an 80% win rate with 4 out of 5
      Barring a major upset at Meydan it should be 5 out of 6

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    ciaran1988 3 years ago

    Tomorrows tips

    3.05 Southwell

    Bring On A Spinner 7/4

    6.40 Chelmsford

    New Stategy 3/1

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    Johnb 3 years ago

    Cat O’Mountain (NAP/NB)

    It’s good to see him back, an old favourite of mine who came 3rd in the 2014 Dubai World Cup

    Before I started tipping on here we had some good wins with him at Kempton in a couple of class 3 handicaps
    He then went to Meydan where he won on debut but the highlight was his 3rd in the World Cup after being held up near the back and was given far to much to do by Barzalona

    On his last run in October 2014 he won the Group 3 Diamond Stakes at Dundalk when rated 111
    He may have top weight but for a horse of his class he isn’t giving away a lot of weight to his rivals

    It will be hi first run on dirt but this boy is bred for dirt
    but can run on any surface.
    He does have a 468 day absence to overcome but I don’t double stake a horse for the fun of it

    Below is his run in the 2014 Dubai World Cup


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    ciaran1988 3 years ago

    2 winners today from my 4 tips both at 3/1.

    January stats now read
    tips = 8
    Stakes = 8 points
    Return = 16.33 points
    Profit = 8.33 points

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    alanm 3 years ago

    Well done ciaran1988 nice profit

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