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SECRET REPRIEVE (3.10) can realise Evan Williams’ dream of winning the re-arranged Coral Welsh Grand National at Chepstow. The gelding picked up a 4lb penalty for brushing aside his rivals in the National trial here on heavy going at the beginning of December, but still has a lightweight 10st 1lb on his back.
The Coral Finale Juvenile Hurdle, a Grade 1 contest, sees exciting ex-French recruit NASSALAM (1.25) going for a hat-trick after routing his rivals by 49 and 47 lengths respectively at Fontwell in two starts for Gary Moore. Those performances have generated comparisons with stable star Goshen, so this is something of an acid test on the road to Cheltenham.
SUMMERVILLE BOY (2.20) should relish the intermediate 2m 5f trip in the Relkeel Hurdle at Kempton. Tom George’s gelding may have found three miles overstretching his stamina reserves when running fourth to Thyme Hill and Paisley Park in the Long Distance Hurdle at Newbury. He contested the International Hurdle at Cheltenham four weeks ago, finishing a staying-on fifth to Song For Someone and Silver Streak over an inadequate two miles.
McFabulous finished in front of Summerville Boy when third at Newbury and has been installed a fairly short price to confirm places. He won over course and distance last March and remains an exciting prospect.
THE WHITE MOUSE (3.30) should give her backers a good spin in the competitive 2m 5f Lanzarote Handicap Hurdle. Lucy Wadham’s mare has been a revelation this term, recording victories at Wincanton and Cheltenham, beating Paul Nicholls’ 143-rated Eglantine Du Seuil on the latest occasion. Nicholls saddles Newbury runner-up Amour De Nuit with sound each-way prospects, along with top weight Solo. Paddy Power are offering each-way terms to six places.
3:50 Chepstow- Dame du soir @ 5/1
Gl luck to anyone who manages to get a winner posted or unposted
That will do but need more than that to balance the books haha ?
Saucy encore 11.30l 11-1
Pawpaw 1.40l 15-2
Ahorsecalledwanda 2.50l 14-1
Big river 3.10c 16-1
Mount mews 3.30k 18-1
Voi 3.40cc 14-1
Independence Day 4.45cc 10-1
Ew singles & ew super hienz ☘️☘️Gl all
Messire des oboex 2-05 wincanton 5-2.
Summerville boy 2-20 kempton 6-1 ew (Paddy power paying 3 places).
Ramses de teillee 3-10 Chepstow
Big River 3-10 Chepstow
Both 20-1 for 6 places (Paddy power).
Big bad bear 3-30 kempton 33-1 ew (Paddy power paying 6 places).
Good luck hope you do some damage today along with the usual suspects ?
Just the one winner dazz ❌
Same here mate . Don’t worry about it there will be many more to come I’m sure ha but I won’t hold it against you . It’s a hard game . On paper everything can add up but it’s never that black and white it’s not far off being random most days no matter how good you are
zefferino 11.30 ew
Bannister 1.25 ew
beau bay 1.45 ew
Morning
More luck required on my part today
Do fancy Saucy Encore from EWT
bol today all
Little on Doctor Nuno as well ?
collipso collonges 3.10 ew well done all winners yesterday
T Symonds, for me, one of the names of the season, will give him a go in the Welsh National, a consistent horse over 3mile and an acceptable price. I see castle robin was tipped by VOV, after seeing his last race i posted on here that anyone on maybe asking questions as from memory he should’ve won. up heavily in class and not the ideal jockey booking but 16s and 7 places means i will be chancing too. Bay Birch won at a big price for me before and is getting dangerously weighted. Ami Debois has Lil Pinchin on who I like, trainer had a winner yday with main man K Woods, they have one at Chepstow.
small ew yankee and singles with not too much work going into the picks
1310k – The Bay Birch 9/1 – 4 places
1345k – Ami Debois 25/1 – 4 places
15:10c – Bobo Mac 14/1 – 6 places
1530k – Castle Robin 16/1 – 7 places
Gl hope you land a few if not you won’t be the first or the last that don’t , thanks for the insight ?
Hahaha I just saw this and saw that it could be interpreted the wrong way . I meAnt for all of us haha ?
All good, i’ve been awoken since last posting here so no more ego or negativity,, feels nice to be the observer :D I hate losing people money, I’ve always tried to benefit the thread but often in the wrong manner and have been quick to lash out when I get a bit back but onwards and upwards from here on out. BOL
Pistol whipped looked wel restrained in that race earlier, will be keeping tabs on his next few entries.
Unfortunate there but cracking run for the money
Cheers for tips, nice profit
Well done ? could of been worse
You should keep up the good work and let people make up there own minds who to follow if at all . Trying to predict the most unpredictable animal ha ha
Big bad bear 3.30 ew
Keep it simple (??)
Treble pays 6.5/1. Bet365 and a single too..
Imperial Aura…2.55
McFabulous …2.20(*****) 11/10
Petrofakt….2.05
GL all and well done the winners yesterday.
Gl old bean
Liking this Alot today best of luck pal. Will be riding with you on these ??
Ask Me Easy wins easy at 11/4(drifted?) and Macfabulos but auld greed got the better of my treble that I shoils have kept to an original thought double!
Good shout Elvis P I should have waited till this morning but onwards as they say!
On Imperial Aura now but and Secret Reprieve.
GL with yer bets the rest of the day gents
Ffs!! ???
Can you do about shite like that
them bloody 3’s
on we go
Haha that’s funny ? don’t sweat it
You don’t do to do bad but a loss does hurt more if you have told people to follow and it doesn’t deliver. But it’s horse racing if there was any kind of predictable pattern they spot the leakage and quickly fix it I’m sure ha
and again dazzman
I’m not scared to lose mate . You should nt run anyone down for suggesting a horse that ends up losing even the experts from all the sites struggle . I think it takes the fun out of it if you just rely on others to make your mind up as you will be bitter if what you thought anyway wins . I’ve lost to myself and to following and it’s easier losing to yourself but to come on for financial reward I would nt recommend it you can win a lot quickly but lose a lot too just as fast ha never mind I enjoy the torment !
3 3 3 ha my house number !
Single digit not collectively
Afternoon All Not been on here for a few days hope your all raking in the profit.
WINCANTON
12.25 . .On To VICTORY. .EVS
12.58. .Jurys Out. .9/2
13.30 . .Thunderstruck. .15/2
15.45. .Gardefort . .4/1
KEMPTON
13.45. .Two For Gold .100/30
14.55. . Master Tommytucker. . 100/30
GL ALL
Little go in the welsh national
Springfield Fox
Secret Reprieve
2 wins r/v f/c
Lingfield 2-15 Centroid 4/1
Kempton 2-20 Mcfabulous 11/10
Kempton 1-45 Double Shuffle 4/1
Kempton 3-30 One True King 9/2
Not looked at race but just saw Iconic Knight is at lingfield 250. He goes over 7f, al form over 5 and 6 so win prospects presumably bleak but i put him on here last time and he went in, the claimer puts him 4 below and around is 8s..
final fantasy 4.10 ew well done all winners today on a hard day
50p ew yankee retured 370 with all 4 placing, hope someone was able to profit, bing pot indeed!
3 winners today so decent profit again
GL if you have any to come
Well done ?
well done buzz
Kits Allanah
Sorry never realised you already put this horse up , credit to you when it wins ?
Not a million miles away
4:45 Chelmsford- kits Allanah 20/1 e/w 3 places bet 365 . Well done those lucky enough to get a winner 2day
going for one of my double ups as i call them!!
horse 4 draw 4
win
cheers dazzman
fingers toes etc
?
As long as it places anything more is a bonus
i like ewt’s pick now !!!
Race 5 Tampa bay downs – overt @4/1
Dear oh dear
You should do e/w extra at those prices . But I’m only betting small stakes not chasing the money I get more of a buzz from the win . You know when you get those good runs and win loads why don’t you stop for me it’s the win . It can be a wicked cruel game if your not careful which you learn the hard way . Luckily I’m not money driven but winning can be your undoing If you let it go to your head
Gonna give eyes another chance in the next
Was obvious selection we all had our fingers burnt with that one
5:15 Chelmsford-salonniere @ 9/1 all day long !
dazzman agree
its a game
little and often spread it around
as long as you are sensible its cheap entertainment
That’s why I’m never afraid to lose ha
saray prince 20p
Thanks insider for ew tips, made a nice profit
first two better than last two, but glad someone benefitted, as dazzman says, nothing worse than putting up losers for others, but also not great putting up ‘winners’ and no one being on lol, cheers
Yeah then they back you the next day and lose haha . You need to be your own man with this game . It is a nightmare when you fancy something but let’s say Elvis or Alan is napping something else I know what hurts me more losing following someone else instead of myself . Everyone means well if your not happy with how things are going have a go yourself . But the thread always pulls out winners it’s just picking the right combo on the day but at least the thread borrows it down and makes it a bit easier for folk to land a double or more . I think it’s a great site it’s easy to lash out after a bad day but as they say if it’s what is throw away stakes relative to your status it will never be a problem . Keep up the good work everyone ?
I reckon you will land a big accumulator one day but whether anyone would follow through the bad times is another thing . It only takes one day to turn things around
People out there do appreciate your efforts but you will never know with the silent majority at least with the heart button people can show some love
i always used to lose when i first came here.. and that was because i understood very little, and thought the posters were more than what they are, basically just well versed punters. i’d expect and expect without knowing how much of a tricky game this is.
so i looked into it myself, purely on the rating system comparing what a horse has achieved to what it is faced with on race day, then i learnt over time the winning combos and that’s put me in decent stead. you can then look into things further and spot little things which may help i.e. whether a horse has been geared at just one race all year when it may blot the form book.
i picked out 4 placed big prices today purely on instincts, whereas i can study for hours and get nothing, so as you say, trust you own thinking, the chances are you are putting in more time and effort than most around here, that is what i used to hate, recognising a ”good thing” and being swayed by others who probably spent 10 minutes over their brekky looking.. can be frustrating but only ourselves to blame.
stick to the form, if you’re left with too many potentials, move onto the next race, in some races it’ll be a minefield, whilst in some you can probably discount well over half the field based on the rating system and that gives you a better chance.. now if you have the time, or the ability to look at the easiest races to begin with, you are going to be finding some..
i think it can be worthwhile looking at the winning horses and trying to spot if there was anything that stood out pre race which shouldve made you pick it.. there are some that are quite clear, then you can try use that for next time..
often find one jockey having a good day, so if u can spot it early, you can sometimes get on, will be few and far between but if you can land one.. as was said on here or maybe on a yt comment, all the jockeys ride around in range rovers… a £100 treble when they know say B Hughes is getting a treble can give them 6 months salary.. so if we can dip our toes into that, obviously at much small stakes as we aren’t privy to the info.. then it can be lucrative.. also if say hollie doyle hasnt won one after 3 rides chances are she might get her last one in, no real science to that formula but i basically mean think outside the box, the bookies make their bread hoping mug punters or, guessers are just using odds to bet, makes it easier for them to be set up… put a dynamite combo in as 2nd fav, who on form cant win, then smash it in or even make it fav, and so many people will back it blind, its robbing from the blind and giving to the rich basically..
anyway enough mindless rambling
SEA WILLOW
SAIGON SUZI 20p
Notice the numbers seqyagain anyone ?
22255 etc
Sequence even!
Spread the bets over bits and pieces obviously not on the small priced stuff
Onwards
Race 6 – Tampa bay downs – castle king @ 11/2 bet 365. Nap
Have a bit on that dazzman
Bol
20p on the nose haha ?
just noticed first race tomorrow
horse 5 and draw 5
does anyone else think its weird as we just had the last 2 races won by number 5
i still think its all about the numbers(if you can spot them)
They got every angle covered , soon as they start taking a few hits they see how learn from it and close the doors . There maybe method to your madness but it will still be guess work and how much would you stake on a hunch . By the time we realise the number of the day were left with the scraps . But you pull the rabbit out the hat enough times for people to take notice including myself ?
dazzman
done a bit more research
those dreaded 3 and 12 they have done the same as well
last races at dundalk and southwell last night 3 and 3 in the last race southwell and 12 and 12 win the last at dundalk…then we all know what happened with the 3’s today.
all i have ever heard is its coincidental..
many many times i have worked out my numbers and go to place my bet only to find its a non runner,now non runners mean to me that human being has taken out that number for some reason.they just get pulled for no reason.it really happens a lot.
i get more winners than you see on this forum.i place lots of bets only small but a high odds.i had ist and second in the last race at chelmsford tonight ..brass clankers still returned £4.56 and new look returned a £1
as i said little and often.
perhaps its just me.
bol
No your definitely onto something mate . With my own personal betting I can usually take a few hits you only need one or 2 big odds to come in to balance the books again . No point gambling if you don’t actually gamble and I feel gambling does reward balls but they ain’t gonna give it to you on a plate . Yeah it would nt supprise me if certain people in certain positions in society get a text with those particular numbers in a specific order that mean everything to someone but nothing in a court of law if they are clever
Coat time I think haha . Luckily i has a couple of grand on my selection today but it All goes back into the pot it’s not yours until you decide to walk away from this madness ha
its only fun and entertainment matey
these freezing winter days and nights and a bloody lockdown
days out are a bit limited i think
bol
Ain’t it funny how these massive odds on always lose . All there doing is blocking anyone from having a easy day . But like I said gambling does reward risk takers comfort zone boys are bread and butter. I usually try and keep an eye out for a odds on fav that has a debutante and take a chance obv they know a bit about the other horse but the one you pick could be better but they don’t know yet and prob freeze the price even if a few on the inside lump on they know how public won’t have that access to they have a gamble as well . But I have been rewarded more times than punished taking on those short priced horses . It’s all a bit of trickery . When you see 8/11 and 4/1 the difference seems massive but it’s not anyway I’ll shut up ha
since you have some maverick picking methods, i often find horses that are appropriately named for the time/day do well. can’t really remember a great example but it happens e.g. a horse named Mr Washington is out during the US election etc…
also, i think for me at least, it cannot be denied the universe is often in sync and sends me tips LOL. it gave me loads based on synchronicities, as i said about SERPENTINE, i loaded fortnite with my little brother immediately after studying the race, and there was a new skin called SLURPENTINE a sign from the gods, low and behold he bolted up… its happened loads of times, but you cant force :D just listen to your heart as the song goes :D
Yeah I found in American races name sake is worth paying attention to . I dunno like American hero or something you can visualise the commentator screaming him home anything to do with a bit of patriotism there all over it . You can see the fixing , doing to much to soon so your horse is in front all the way then fades but you feel you had some kind of run for your money that’s just one example but you would have seen it for yourself . But they don’t know what your betting on so you can make your own luck but there is a lot to be said for intuitive betting . When you see horses with a name and your stuck for an Angle go for a name , like Steven the horse for example they know the one off punters will go for a name so want to try and reel them into an addiction haha where as we look at other things. Obv we can all get lucky and have good times. But I think only a select few in a tight tight group profit . They are all doing it for prize Money I just can’t see they have no control or influence with the money involved. To many coincidences as I say but nobody is putting a gun to my head to bet it’s still a gamble to be fair why should they make it easy . It would be a crap business model if they told everyone what’s going to win ha
It’s finding the winner for me it’s means I beat them in that contest
Win the battle but not the war comes mind
Never win the war anyway
Yeah one on one you will never win they still win when you win haha . Gulf Stream is a nightmare but then why should they tell you who is most likely to win you need to do you’re bit . Ha
Gulf Stream number 11
won by number 3 should have known
Just bet on number 3 for a week see what happens ha
Never mind . But we obv Keep an eye on everything. There are to many coincidences for my liking . But sometimes something as simple spotting only one female jockey got one race in the whole meeting there bound to let her win so I would lump on that and win . I use to love live in play American racing and done well and they did nt mind until I went to make a withdrawal and cancelled thousands of pounds worth of bets saying I was taking advantage of the time descrepancies . They have a massive time delay when you watch it on tv and your bet goes blank it’s obv fallen but you don’t see that for ages ha
most USA racing offers free racing streams on their official website, which you can also rewind to see the opening market prices… you can often find big discrepancies in the prices, UK firms are sometimes well behind and value can be found
Yeah I’ve used American betting sites and they seem to pay well over the odds on Australian racing . But yes if you got access to American betting sites you can sometimes spot a fav the uk market may be trying to hide . Haha we are a bit maverick it’s no good long term but you get some amazing days when you have picked them all yourself . It is a bit mad how we put down Money on someone’s opinion but you do tell people and it gets spun out of control better off letting people making there own mistakes like we had to . Alan is obviously good but I don’t back him day in day out I use to when I started out but you would feel a bit peed off as your gut was picking the winner it’s def easier losing to yourself than following the crowd . Never mind . But I would follow your picks . I get the feeling one day you will land the big one
luck at last
my number 8 at aqueduct at 20.20 came 2nd now has been placed 1ST @ 14-1
that was nice because i didn’t know there was an objection anyway
Yeah I’ve had some nice touches with American racing they seem a bit more strict when I thought myself it was a bit harsh ! But another way of fixing perhaps ha
Don’t it goes on on dazzman
So many ways and fixes ☹️
Haha it drives me wild when they pull them up surely that’s the easiest way to influence the result of a race when proper money is involved it ain’t on . Haha . Those boys who set the odds are good they constantly get it right .