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THIS is the latest thread from Simon Wright and GillsRob whose strategy on betting on corners has proved popular.

If you have any queries about what they are doing post them as a comment at the end of this article – and watch out for their daily tips on here or the main Mr Fixit thread.

Thursday's tips are

11am JAPAN v IRAQ – U9.5 ASIAN CORNERS

1pm PHILLIPINES v BAHRAIN – U10 ASIAN CORNERS

3pm LEBANON v KUWAIT – U9.5 ASIAN CORNERS

7pom ZARAGOZA v GIRONA – U10 ASIAN CORNERS

Admin and myself recognise the popularity of these tips and will address the situation but not until major site change are made in September.

THE BACKGROUND

Firstly, it’s important to point out we are not professional gamblers following our tips won't guarantee a profit. We are regular punters who share a passion to try to build a system that delivers a high win ratio to bets within a strategy to maximise profits and reduce risks.

We have spent the last year trialling many systems and markets from over 2.5 goals to both teams to score to team goals. However, we were unable to forge a system that produced a win rate over 60%.

After a few months we realised one of the trials we were running was doing particularly well and decided to focus on that.

This was Asian Total Corners. Using corner, formation and some pitch data we were able to produce a decent system. We spent the next few months refining the system and changing the weightings we placed on certain stats to increase the number of winners we had to achieve our target of 70%.

In late 2014 we believed we had a system that worked and started to bet for real on these games. We found our picks were delivering 60%-70% winners consistently and started to show profit.

Our final refinement was in March when we reviewed our results to help narrow down the most successful lines we had used through bet365. Following the test we decided to drop six lines from both the over and under market and only run with the remaining six, which are Over 10.5, 11 and 11.5 and Under 9, 9.5 and 10.

I hope that clarifies what our tips are and why. However, and we feel this is really important. Our 70% success rate is calculated over a calendar month, therefore there are individual days and weeks which are loss making.

ORIGINAL STAKING PLAN

Aside from the betting lines the most important area of our strategy is the stake structure. We advise you to divide your bank by 12. This would then be your initial stake (which will allow you to make 12 bets).

The reason we suggest 12 is twofold. Firstly, as I said we do have losses. So if your first three bets are losers you need to have enough bank left to recover from this. The way we advise you count is simply starting from 0. If your first bet wins you move to +1 and if it loses then you move to -1.

Also you need to consider how many bets you place at once and have to have the bank to cover this. On a Saturday at 3pm with a full card we sometimes can have up to eight bets. The figure 12 comes from our maximum number of bets at any one time being 8 and also our maximum minus position is -3.

The risk you need to be aware of is if you are on -3 and you place 8 bets at the same time your bank effectively is more or less 0. So, back to your stake and I asked you to split your bank by 12, so assuming you have a bank of £120 your bet would be £10 per tip.

You are going to count the winners as +1 and the losers as -1 and keep doing that over and over and over again. With a win ratio of 70% you will slowly see it go up. Your aim is to get to about +12. Now I say this is your aim as if our tips were all evens, this would mean at +12 you bank is doubled. In reality the odds on our tips range from 1.7-2.0.

Therefore you actual aim is not +12 but just when you bank is doubled. In the example we are using, from an initial £120 bank and £10 stake, you are looking to reach £240. When this happens you can double your stake and your bank divided by 12 would be £20.

You can carry on doing this over and over or you can raise your stake by £10 every time you achieve the correct bank to do so, so for instance when you reach £360 move to £30 stake, when you reach £480 move to £40 stake and when you reach £600 move to £50 stake.

It is at this point when the strategy becomes most profitable and you then will want to plan when to begin to draw profits (after all that's the whole point) but always reverting back to the £600 baseline and repeating the process.

ALTERNATIVE STAKING PLAN

The other way you can stake, which is a lot easier to manage, is every Monday take your bank and divide it by 12 and that’s your stake for the week. This will deliver faster growth but has greater risk if our tips provide a losing week.

Anything more regular may make it difficult to track the strategy then possibly have an adverse effect on the overall performance.

CLOSING NOTES

We only post our selections on Mr Fixit's main forum. Due to busy work and family lives we share the workload equally. Look out for either of us, Simon Wright or GillsRob, usually about 10.30pm for the following day (and including any overnight). This ensures we all get the best odds and also allows plenty of time before the game.

Occasionally we may add one or two in the morning, usually before 10am. Additionally, we do endeavour to have at least one of us available on the site during the day, especially when bets are running.

Finally, there are days when nothing meets criteria, so it is a no bet day. We have no plans to make ad hoc bets in these situations.

I hope that provides the clarification you are all looking for. This system is not thrill betting. It is methodical and at times you will go a whole week and only end up at +1) which is just like winning one evens bet. It's not really for the gung-ho gambler out for fun.

However, if your motivation is purely financial and you have the patience and discipline we believe our picks and staking plan could suit you. For others who do not wish to deposit funds anymore this also could be a good system.

All the best,
Simon & Rob

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151 Comments
  1. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    All. Today’s tips are posted in the main body above.

    There are no further tips however please remember to check in about 11am as we may post more in the morning

    Thanks all

    • Avatar of John smith
      John smith 10 years ago

      Many thanks for sharing these tips guys, i’ve started betting on every one. I do other bets too, mostly o 2.5 or btts so i don’t have an exact ‘bank’ to follow your system like others have but i like it all the same!

  2. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Cheers Mr F makes it easier now to locate them :)

  3. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Dr. – we only post our tips on this site

    Mr F – thanks fot including the tips in the header

  4. Avatar of craneguy
    craneguy 10 years ago

    simon/gills, been following with great interest but not on any tbh

    well done lads seems you are going great guns

    will be watching returns for next few weeks to see how its going longer term, looks like you have it sussed out though, am I correct in saying that’s now over 60 odd% returns? ta

  5. Avatar of paul
    paul 10 years ago

    Im considering this but when u say -3 is maximum loss what if your at -3 and lose. Do you quit. Could someone give silly me an example. Was thinking of lodging 12 quid n seeing how big it got. Made 20p turn into 5.50 with mr fs tips before freak of nature zero corners for aston villa in fixeda cup final scuppered that plan.

  6. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Wednesday update before placing today’s 4 bets so far (remember to check at 11am ish for any new tips)

    Starting bank 36 points

    Current bank 89.8 points

    Current profit 53.8

    Current stake per bet 5.7 points

    Weekly situation plus 3

    I like to share stats but if you like a more detailed breakdown then look out for posts from petet

    Like any betting system this can go wrong so only bet what you can afford to lose.
    As always cheers Simon/Rob

    Good luck all whatever your on

  7. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @CRANEGUY

    Cheers fella. Yep corrected. Have been posting this for about 4 weeks.

    Think it’s about 64% since inception on Mr F , Professor Pete T does a running total but that did start a couple of weeks after we started posting.

    Some headline numbers for you are

    Profit each week since inception
    No losing bets since Sunday
    Most people who started from Day 1 has doubled their bank twice now.

    Hope that helps fella

  8. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @John Smith

    Thanks fella. We only suggest a way of betting and staking, no worries if you add other bets to them dude

    As long as they win :-)

  9. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Paul

    Not exactly – we say -3 is the lowest Rob and I have ever been since we started this in a single week. Doesn’t mean to say we won’t go -4, -5 -6 at some point. It’s there just to illustrate the importance of having a 12 bet liability.

    If we go lower than -3 then no I won’t quit as the system is designed to cope with that.

    I have faith that this would never happen but let’s face it we could have 12 loses in a row which would mean by bank would be empty. That’s when we quit.

    However my lose would only be £120 investment and that was over 1 year ago

    The same day that happens I’ll start again.

    Ps – although my actual lose would be the actual bank at the time, however we are all aware of the risks involved in gambling or should be anyway.

    Hope that answers your questions bud

  10. Avatar of BRIAN
    BRIAN 10 years ago

    Great, tips are there plain and simple without having to read through 100 comments of people bitching at each other.

    Also now no-one can get confused about that or complain about missing them.

    Excellent result and great work from Rob/Simon

  11. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Brian

    Thanks fella. Certainly encouraged by the week so far, however for those that have followed for a while know the weekend normally is the maker or breaker.

    Very unusual to have 4 on a Thursday esp one after each other.

    Waiting for Rob to do the 2ns checking to see if there are anymore to add.

    • Avatar of BRIAN
      BRIAN 10 years ago

      All good Simon will keep an eye out later on.

      Decided not to monitor the games in-play and just let the system run it course.
      I did last night and backed O/8.5 in-play on a different account. Was 15 mins left plus stoppage time with the home team pushing for an equaliser.
      So got a push and a win, so happy, but its hard not to start laying bets off when a match devolops like that.

      So if i start to monitor some then i will want to monitor them all, and i just cant. So better i leave it and let it take its course. Theres a bank of 12 bets for that reason so i will let nature take its course so to speak.

      Interesting day ahead anyway !

  12. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Something that made me laugh I thought I’d share…

    As you know, some of these games can be viewed on 365. The other week, Rob texted me to say his wife had run into the room and ask him why he was cheering so loud, and what had happened?

    I can only picture her face when he told here it was because a 2nd tier Polish team had got a corner.

    I’ve always said this is slow and boring, think I’ll add mental to the mix :-)

  13. Avatar of Doc
    Doc 10 years ago

    I’ve been lurking on this site for about 6 weeks. Never bet anything substantial. A few pounds here and there for fun. Thanks to the Bet365 in play offer I got to £120, at which point I started following the corner tips. Can I give Simon and Rob a heartful thanks for all the effort you guys put in and sharing it here. I have plans to carry on for a year and then give 50% to a charity close to my heart before continuing with the remaining 50%. Just wanted to say thanks and let you know about the potential good you’re doing for people and other causes. Thanks again guys.

  14. Avatar of trevor
    trevor 10 years ago

    Simon/Rob

    As stated in a previous post I am on +8 and if you have a run of losses I can afford 7 losses before I go into my initial bank and then another 12 losses till I my bank is exhausted.

    In my case the first 7 losses I am playing with the bookies money and I cant see 19 losses in a row or at least I hope not.

    keep up the good work

    Trev,…

  15. Avatar of GD173
    GD173 10 years ago

    Seriously considering this becoming my only footy bets…

  16. Avatar of Stuart Jones
    Stuart Jones 10 years ago

    Hi Simon/Rob

    Thanks for the tips,
    I was wondering why you choose the Asian total corners and not just the unders markets for some of your tips.
    For example the Phillipines game under 10 on the Asian market is 1.9 but on the Corners market under 10 is 2.10??
    Thanks again

    • Avatar of AndyD
      AndyD 10 years ago

      if there is only 10 corners you would get a refund on asian corners

    • Avatar of BRIAN
      BRIAN 10 years ago

      Ah Jesus not today again ffs !!

  17. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    30 minutes until kick off in our first game – Japan

  18. Avatar of trevor
    trevor 10 years ago

    Rob

    Any more today ?

    if so when will we know

    Trev,…

  19. Avatar of raaljaca
    raaljaca 10 years ago

    I have been following you guys on here and trying to get to understand this system and got to say it is excellent. To take the time to trawl through all the data required is incredible and wish you both nothing but the best of luck with this as you have found another angle to beat the bookies.

  20. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Stuart

    Due to the nature of the void on Asians, ie last night bet would have been a loser if we didn’t do Asian and done the bet you state.

    Hope that makes sense fella

  21. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Trevor – we will know by about 11am but it’s looking unlikely

  22. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Raal

    Thank you – wow what an endorsement !

    We certainly find 2 heads are better and quicker than one and we both bring something different to the project which seems to work.

    Appreciate you taking the time to write the message fella

  23. Avatar of WasClueless
    WasClueless 10 years ago

    Also been following this with interest and placing bets but then getting “lost” in amongst my other bets!! Opened a new account with another bookies for all other bets. Bank set, bets placed and day 1 proper on your corner tips with 365. Great work guys with all the effort you put in and explanations provided – and GL all!!

  24. Avatar of TIPSULTAN
    TIPSULTAN 10 years ago

    SImon, all to bet on singles or any double you prefer? just doubt

  25. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    WasClueless – welcome and thank you

    Raal – thanks for the endorsement

    a big card for a Thursday, will be interesting as I know a few of you are close to upping a level

    gl

  26. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Tipsultan – our strategy is based on singles only, no need to increase the risk

  27. Avatar of TIPSULTAN
    TIPSULTAN 10 years ago

    thanks simon and rob for the quick reply, just asked to clear my doubt… one more doubt.. if it reach 240 we double the stake to how much?

  28. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    £20 stakes (keeping the 12 bet liability)

  29. Avatar of TIPSULTAN
    TIPSULTAN 10 years ago

    ok thats gud one more thing.. we stake $20 till how much we reach?

  30. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    there are a couple of staking plans stated in the article. You could either increase to £30 at £360 or wait til £480 and go onto £40 stakes.

    Alternatively, divide your pot by 12 every Monday, which may give faster growth (or slower in a bad week)

    hope that helps

  31. Avatar of TIPSULTAN
    TIPSULTAN 10 years ago

    ok now understood thanks hope we do good today

  32. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Let’s have it boys!! :) level 2 coming up!

  33. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Andy D

    Yes – if the line is 10 of course

  34. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Japan are on a rampage!

  35. Avatar of TheHawk
    TheHawk 10 years ago

    Simon Or GillsRob can you guys put up results every week with how many bets have won and lost in the said week ?

  36. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Japan have flew out the blocks. hopefully the scoreline slows things down

  37. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    4 corners 30 mins. they haven’t got the memo Rob haha!

  38. Avatar of Terry DRFC
    Terry DRFC 10 years ago

    Simon & Rob.

    Thanks for all your hard work and all the hours spent on your joint project and then to share it with this betting community.

    I have been following and betting from Day 1, in fact prior to your corners project I was also including both yours and Robs goals tips in my daily betting using tips from the more successful tipsters on the site.

    I not only use your staking plan based on liability of 12 for the corner bets, I also have a separate staking plan of 12 Level Stakes on my daily “tipster” varied bets.
    I am in profit on both, haven’t put any of my own money into my betting for what seems an eternity.
    On behalf of everyone using your tips and staking plan – A Massive Thanks to Both of You.
    Also to all the other regulars who seem to find winner after winner.

  39. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @The Hawk

    We keep a running total throughout the week and Pete T does a full breakdown also

  40. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Terry DRFC

    Thanks fella, glad we are able to add value

  41. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Japan now 3-0 up so hopefully will take the breaks off abit.

    Going to be a nervous , exciting , fun 45 mins for us all now.

    As @BRIAN said…. Not again lol

  42. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Terry – thank you and to be honest my biggest learn from this whole journey has been the staking plan. The 12 liability should be an effective structure accross all markets

    Now can we have 20 substitutions staggered through the second half completely ruining the momentum

  43. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Well that went quick!

  44. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Bet 1 loses

    Could look at O13 for over evens if you wish and are quick

  45. Avatar of Sean567
    Sean567 10 years ago

    How dare Iraq do so much attacking as to get 4 corners! Spoil sports!

  46. Avatar of BRIAN
    BRIAN 10 years ago

    International friendlies !! The root of all evil lol
    Same on every football betting market.

    Onwards and upwards.

  47. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Typical no corners in 10 mins!!!!!

  48. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    thankfully we have three more today

  49. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    We cant win them all now can we?

    As Rob says – 3 more to go today …. :o)

  50. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    at least the next three are all competitive fixtures, should be more consistent to stats

  51. Avatar of Sean567
    Sean567 10 years ago

    Cheers for the tip si got on over 12.5 ah at 2.075

  52. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Thanks all

    Remember we only need 51% win rate to get profit which means 49% can lose

    Well done if anyone managed to get on the overs and win, Rob and I got on O12 so void and therefore -1 for the day and +2 for the week.

    Right it’s 1pm so let’s go again….

  53. Avatar of Dreamkiller
    Dreamkiller 10 years ago

    “Could look at O13 for over evens if you wish and are quick”
    “Rob and I got on O12 so void”

    I guess these were different bets ?? Just asking as I went O13

  54. Avatar of Champy R
    Champy R 10 years ago

    Early fays but this one is looking better.

  55. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Lovely start!!

  56. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Dreamkiller

    We have O13 also, apologies posted the update incorrectly as rushing – we voided but the line did drop to 12 at one point so I think some people managed to get that.

    Overall we got a void so ended -1

    The 1pm is looking better so hope to even it out to 0 on this game

  57. Avatar of Dreamkiller
    Dreamkiller 10 years ago

    Sorry Si , no probs … I rushed and didn’t do the Asian ! ..

  58. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    glad some people did well on the overs opportunity inplay during the Japan game

    Much better in Phillipines but try to resist the urge to recoup our defeat by chasing a lower line in this one

  59. Avatar of Juangoal
    Juangoal 10 years ago

    1 so far, why can’t they all be like this :@)

  60. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    This is getting bad! 2 corners now! Cashout? :P

  61. Avatar of Terry
    Terry 10 years ago

    Well done to all who covered the Japan game. I was working and didn’t have that eoption but it’s always an option I look at when I can. I’m off to Turkey in 2 weeks but want to carry on this Corner adventure.Last year in Turkey I couldn’t use Bet365 on my phone via wifi. Does anybody know why this may be and how I could get round it please?

  62. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    You could remote access into your home pc from abroad and place the bet like you were at home.

  63. Avatar of Champy R
    Champy R 10 years ago

    Terry,

    I had the same problem last month, just gave a mate my login details and had him place bets for me. Paddy works on Turkey as does Tote sport but not much use if they don’t have the games.

  64. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    @TheBoss

    That’s exactly what I do. Or you can use a proxy server application so that the IP address you connect to B365 from is a UK one.

    Your option is my preferred route though

  65. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    well that was close, I was nervous at 2 lol. Just what we needed after this morning. 5pm next up

  66. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Yea Pete I use to work in IT support so I use to log into my home pc when I was bored and do studd so it wasn’t “technically” on the office pc haha

    Use to download films from torrennt and stuff when I was bored.

    Use to use LogMeIn but there’s plenty put there now that are free too.

  67. Avatar of Champy R
    Champy R 10 years ago

    3pm I think Rob.

  68. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    3pm but it’s not on 345 anymore!

  69. Avatar of RobRoy
    RobRoy 10 years ago

    Can’t find the Lebanon v Kuwait game anywhere not even bet365 where I put the bet on!

  70. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Go unsettled Robroy

    I’m trying to find a other site that has lived updates with corner stats

  71. Avatar of Shizzy
    Shizzy 10 years ago

    It’s back on 365!

  72. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Sweet it’s back on! And no corners after 13 mins :)

  73. Avatar of Shizzy
    Shizzy 10 years ago

    By the way, loving the corner system guys. Thanks very much for all your hard work and sharing. Plenty of people would keep it to themselves after clearly putting so much time in.

  74. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Shizzy

    Pleasure mate. Easier as there are 2 of us and we do it for ourselves anyway so not extra hassle posting it here.

    Ps We place them before we post them on here so you lot can’t destroy the odds :-)

  75. Avatar of Gio79
    Gio79 10 years ago

    Great system boys.. it does take patience and I am always tempted to go wild especially seeing a great streak like the last few days. Much respect to you both. I started with a bigger pot due to my correct score on the Ch.L final but cashed that out.

  76. Avatar of Buckiejag
    Buckiejag 10 years ago

    Simon, You are correct in punting your fancy before posting them.

  77. Avatar of ches501
    ches501 10 years ago

    HT @ 6 corners. Fingers crossed for a second half played entirely within the centre circle!!

  78. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    maybe both sides will play for a draw? seriously need a slow start- first 15 without any

  79. Avatar of Juangoal
    Juangoal 10 years ago

    We’re doomed :@(

  80. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Cash out 47p hmmm :P

    Long game remember!

  81. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    started promising but Kuwaits attack forced alot of corners. Start of the second half was a blitz.

    Over to Spain to halve the day

  82. Avatar of trevor
    trevor 10 years ago

    win some /lose some thats the name of the game

    i am in for the long haul and yes we will have setbacks but I like most others on hear are still in profit and playing with the bookies money

    keep th faith

    Trev,…

  83. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    2/4 would be a nice way just to finish

  84. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Onto the 7pm game we go

    Personally 1 down today and hope to go level tonight.

    The main point is still plus for the week and its the long game.

    Well done those on the earlier overs bet, i luckily got on at o12 to minimise the loss.

  85. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Trebor – Your right bud, playing with bookies money is an important position to be in.

  86. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Well technically it’s still my money becuse I’ve given then loads of the months! Haha

  87. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    What did the Lebanon corners finish on, had a good price on 012 early ish 2nd half.

    I wasnt on it but nearly did but didnt want to risk going minus today.

    Hope the last comes in for us

  88. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    13 Dave

  89. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Cant add up today, 1 level from an offset o12 bet inplay, 1 winner and 1 loser.

    Last one at 7 for plus 1 or minus 1 or level if we get 10.

    Yea thats it lol

  90. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Cheers Danny, should have taken it. Never mind on we go :-)

  91. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    The boss – lol i need to reach 100 points before officially playing with bookies money again.

  92. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Hopefully girona treat us well but not leave it as close as they did Sunday

    2w 2l would be ok finish considering we lost the first

  93. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Rob – Bit of segunda to finish the night off :-)

  94. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    Gillsrob 2wins 2lose will be good going as it maintains a great week and edging closer to the double up now

  95. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    also void is possible in this one too

  96. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    30 mins until the last game of a busy day.

    1 winner and 2 losers which wasn’t even close gives us -1 for the day and +2 for the week.

    This on paper is our strongest pick of the day so, like you are hoping for the win to give us a 0 day and to keep our +3 for the week.

    As lose gives us -2 and +1 for the week.

    Tomorrow is looking slim but there are still some games to check

  97. Avatar of Clarks76
    Clarks76 10 years ago

    Hey Simon you say strongest in paper and being a punter who is always lookin for an edge himself. What stats are you and rob looking at when you consider a game? I know you said you have 4 data feeds goin into the program just curious as to what those considerations are see if I can’t apply similar logic myself. Completely understand if you say away and raffle yer heed we are sharing enough ;)

  98. Avatar of Marts8892
    Marts8892 10 years ago

    Hi there

    Im quite new to betting.

    The corners strategy Sounds great However I dont see how for example youd split the pot by 12.

    Are we betting doubles? Trebles or singles here?

    Can you explain this step by step for newbies like maself,

    Thanks

  99. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    as well as corner data for both sides, we factor in motivation scores, pitch size (where possible) and game type as well as a few manual checks

  100. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Marts – It is singles only and some have started with 10 pound bets with a bank of 120.

    Stay at this until you reach 240 or at the end of each week divide your bank by 12 and stick to that stake for the week.

    Also give the thread at the top a read as it will make it clearer.

  101. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Mart – we only bet singles on this system. there are a few staking plans laid out in tge article at the top of the page. If you still are unsure then I’ll be happy to help.

  102. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @Clarks76

    No worries fella.

    The stronger comments comes from the algorithm based on

    Pitch size and formation
    Dangerous attack data
    The weather
    Previous corner and H2H corner stats

    Hope that helps fella

  103. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Nice and steady game required please :-)

  104. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Marts

    1. Work out how much betting bank you have
    2. Divide that number by 12
    3. This number is your stake per bet
    4. Look out for my and Robs tips
    5. Open up a 365 account
    6. Bet on our tips – Asian corners
    7. Play all the tips as singles only
    8. Keep going until your bank had doubled from when it started
    9. Then double your stake
    10. Start again steps 6 to 9

    Hope that helps fella

  105. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    365 have dropped the line to 9.5 glad we got in early

  106. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    11. Shit yourself on a saturday when you go 8 plus bets lol

  107. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Marts

    Make sure you bet asian corners :-)

  108. Avatar of nathan
    nathan 10 years ago

    Hey guys, I like your system. I’m gonna keep a close eye on your tips.

    One thing: I was surprised you included the Japan Iraq game. In one sided games like that, where one team will basically be playing in the oppositions box all game, corners are expected, no?

  109. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Mine says kick off still 10 mins gone lol

  110. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    The boss it’s 1-1 on corners mate 17mins

  111. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    It’s gonna be one of those days lads.

  112. Avatar of GillsRob
    GillsRob 10 years ago

    Theboss – seems to be, a think we just got hit with a triple corner

  113. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    Gills rob we did it was awful defending and futons just took the lead with one of the funniest goals your likely to see

  114. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    Futons ??? Girona

  115. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    I thought Futons was an expletive I’d just never heard before!

  116. Avatar of Jordan
    Jordan 10 years ago

    Danny this is no time to have a lie down!

  117. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    Danny this is no time to have a lie down!

  118. Avatar of Clarks76
    Clarks76 10 years ago

    Thanks very much guys! Liking your system of staking also and found it quite refreshing to be disciplined for a change :)

  119. Avatar of Michael Cutler
    Michael Cutler 10 years ago

    On the plus side, it is still ‘under 10’………

  120. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    So we entered into week 3 of the Simon/Rob corner betting on Wednesday -as promised, to try and give a “show and tell” approach I’m running a hypothetical model of Simon Wright and GillsRob’s much talked about system. Hopefully the practical example will help people understand if there is any confusion.

    So after a great couple of days on Monday and Tuesday we headed into mid week with smaller cards.

    Wednesday and Thursday were Days 15 and 16 respectively and once again, each bet had a 1pt stake which I valued at £10 (total bank was 12pts, ie £120).

    The results were as follows:

    WEDNESDAY
    FC Honka Women v PK-35 Vantaa Women
    UNDER 9 Asian Corners
    Odds (it did drop during the day) 1.75
    Void. £10.00 return (i.e. £0 profit/loss made)
    Outcome 0

    THURSDAY
    11am JAPAN v IRAQ
    U9.5 ASIAN CORNERS
    Odds (at 10am) 1.85
    Lost. £0.00 return (i.e. £10 loss made)
    Outcome 0

    1pm PHILLIPINES v BAHRAIN
    U10 ASIAN CORNERS
    Odds (at 10am) 1.9
    Win £19 return (i.e. £9 profit made)

    3pm LEBANON v KUWAIT
    U9.5 ASIAN CORNERS
    Odds (at 10am) 1.9
    Lost £0 return (i.e. £10 loss made)

    7pm ZARAGOZA v GIRONA
    U10 ASIAN CORNERS
    Odds (at 10am) 1.9
    Lost £0 return (i.e. £10 loss made)

    So the last two days have been tough and leave us on -2 over the 2 days.

    This means the running totals are now:

    42 bets placed (not including void bets)
    26 bets won (62% win rate to date)

    This leaves us on +9 (add up all the outcomes) after 16 days.

    The stats now stand at:
    Starting bank : £120
    New bank : £167.75 (39% increase so far – the target is to get a 100% increase)

    It’s been a tough couple of days but -2 over 2 days in a long term system is no disaster. Remember Simon’s analogy that this scheme is like tracking the FTSE. You get up days, you get down days – the key is to keep doing what we know works and remain disciplined which limits losses and means we’re reading for the next day.

  121. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    ***before anyone says, I know that the 7pm bet hasn’t technically lost but I’m assuming based on 45 mins and no corners being very unlikely. I’ll be delighted to update as a void bet if the unlikely happens ***

  122. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    I have to admit i put another stake on at under 13 ft asan corners on 33 mins

    We all know it has hit 10 now.

    I won one earlier from going inplay and look like losing this one.

    I will not be doing any inplay bets from now on as it feels like chasing and my discipline will weaken lol.

    I am sticking to the bet win or lose and move on :-)

  123. Avatar of Wato
    Wato 10 years ago

    Dave you are under my orders not to chase on these bets mate lol sit on your hands while watching the games if you have to!

  124. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    I went for over 13 when it was at 8-9 at 1/1 for £10..I know I know its the not system but..argh!

    Looks like it’s going to pay off.

  125. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    One more corner and it gets my bank at 182 again. Ready for the next go…

  126. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    Thank god today is over.

    Nothing to remember on days like this is you cannot bet every day and win everyday

    So far we have been + every week and even after today with sit on +1 for the week.

    Try not to think of today in isolation as a losing day, think of tyke betting as a weekly unit or monthly. Both being in + as we speak

    If you try to adapt to a business model (Can you tell I work for a bank in business?) then you accept a day in which the bank balance goes down, knowing that’s needed to make it go up.

    The reason I say this, is that’s it’s 8pm and some of you may be tempted to chase the -2 today.

    Try not to. You are +1 for the week, which will be a better position than 90% of gamblers this week.

    We have more games tomorrow, and for those that remember my post last week, going into the weekend at 0+- is a very decent position.

    Hope that’s ok and didn’t sound patronising, apologies if it did

  127. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Let’s go again Simon :)

  128. Avatar of Sem
    Sem 10 years ago

    Well it’s one of those days.

    Accepting days or even weeks like this can happen and staying disciplined will hopefully give us long term profit.

    We go again.

  129. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Wato – Orders followed bud lol

  130. Avatar of PeteT
    PeteT 10 years ago

    @Simon

    The business analogy is a good one.

    Important to remember though chap that some people have dramatically changed the way they bet from an unsustainable manner to one where they’re making profit weekly.

    That’s down to you and Rob! ;)

  131. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    I’m being mugged off here not one morw corner since 60 mins?!!

  132. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    @The Boss

    Not panic and don’t worry. If it loses it loses and may put you on 0 for the week but that’s still no money lost.

    Perhaps a lesson learnt if that’s not too patronising fella

  133. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Biggest BS ever! I’m being stitched up here

  134. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Somehow got the void on 13

    Had written it off and not sure how that happened. Will not be doing it again unless an obvious situation.

    Minus 1 for the day and we move on will update stats shortly.

  135. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Sorry the boss – You should have got that one

  136. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    I Didn’t cashout becuse it qas 65 haha.

    Ah well!

    No problem Simon lesson has been learnt.

    I really wanna clean out the bookies now!! ;)

  137. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Corner stats update

    Starting bank 36 points

    Starting week bank 68.4 points

    Current bank 82.1 points

    Current profit 46.1

    Current stake per bet 5.7 points

    Weekly situation week plus 2

    No inplay for me as under orders :-) it will be a slippery slope. I will consider on rare accasions but once you start you cant stop (I know my weakness)

  138. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    TIPS FOR TOMORROW

    So we didn’t manage the week with no losers, in fact it looks like the betting gods saves the all till today with 3 losers and 1 winner giving us -2 for the day and now +1 for the week as we move into Friday.

    Rob and I have had a look at what learns we can take from today and perhaps with internationals we may looks at some of the previous games and discount friendies , also friendies in general based on Japan today.

    As we have always done, we will continue to tweet the system to try to bring better picks and increase our win ratio, but remember with the staking plan, a win ratio over 55% will mean profit and we are still delivering above that going forward.

    It’s not always possible to watch every game, but when we do we will always try to ado de where we see cover. I’ve noticed a few betting on overs when the under bet looks bust. A little word of warning if you want to do that. Firstly check when the corners were awarded. This will help you understand if there was a double or a treble corner. This will screw the overall number making it look like there are going to be loads more. Remember we picked unders for a reason.

    Also, check the score. If it’s 3-0 the game is probably dead and you will see a reduction in corners as the last 15 the winning team tries to retain the ball longer.

    We have 2 picks tomorrow – below. As yesterday we advise you try to get on them early to avoid dropping odds and moment in lines. We saw both happen today.

    Finally. You are +1 for the week. Relax and keep to the staking plan. Don’t be tempted to double up on the tips to win back today’s loses.

    We may post more later if we have them.

    BOTH UNDER 9.5 ASIAN CORNERS

    Euro 2016 Qualifying
    19:45 Norway

    Euro 2016 Qualifying
    19:45 Andorra

    • Avatar of Mr Fixit
      Mr Fixit 10 years ago

      Simon, new post up – hitting 100 quickly these days and none were from Weebanger!

  139. Avatar of T888
    T888 10 years ago

    Simon , wise words

  140. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Simon – You are right, got over excited today lol.

    My two inplays saved me 1 stake today but it feels wrong that i did them and it starts messing with the win percentage.

    More importantly it eats at my lack of discipline at betting and thats dangerous

    Onwards we go and for most plus 1 for the week and some plus 2.

    Great stuff simon/rob

  141. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    David that’s pretty good going mate 36 points to 82.1 . How long did that take you if you don’t mind me asking and is it solely from the corners ? That’s an exceptional rise mate and you gills rob and Simon should extremely proud of that rise :-)

  142. Avatar of TheBoss
    TheBoss 10 years ago

    Haha Dave “it felt wrong” exactly what I felt placing the in play bet!

  143. Avatar of Simon wright
    Simon wright 10 years ago

    All 145 comments today is a record – thank you and allows us a new thread for tomorrow.

    We have built a great and growing mature community here.

    New thread is up so this thread is dead.

    Rob and I will be in the new thread from now

  144. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Dannyt – nearly 4 weeks only on corners, have backed a couple seperate corner bets i felt looked good but only when watching the game.

    As you say big thanks to simon/rob

  145. Avatar of Danny T
    Danny T 10 years ago

    David very impressive mate well done

  146. Avatar of Dave Wiseman
    Dave Wiseman 10 years ago

    Danny i want to get to 100 a bet and then it gets interesting lol

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