IT was a case of what might have been last night but still a profitable evening.
The both teams to score line frustrated me with three out of three winning and the other two being postponed. I had high hopes for the fivefold but it was sod's law that the two matches off were on my one line.
Anyway a treble's a treble and the returns are being reinvested tonight.
Bradford's failure to beat Burton in 90 minutes beat the homes but there was a small profit for anyone who permed them.
Tonight there are fewer games to look at and we have the same problem with working out line-ups in the Capital One Cup.
We know the likes of Arsenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Norwich and Liverpool will field weakened teams – but will their reserves be good enough for the opposition?
Arsenal's youngsters are always quality so should be strong enough at home to Coventry but best odds are 2-9 at William Hill. Likewise Spurs, 8-15 at William Hill, are expected to win at Carlisle.
Maybe the toughest games to call are the all-Premier League ones. Man Utd will put out a shadow side, but likely to feature Darren Fletcher, at home to Newcastle so the visitors will be the value here at 6-1 (various) if they field a powerful line-up.
Liverpool, who lost 3-0 at West Brom on the opening day of the Premier League season, return to the Hawthorns with a much younger team. But it's the players who stunned Young Boys 5-3 in Switzerland who will take to the field.
The third top-flight tie sees QPR welcome Reading and I won't betting on any of these games until I see the starting line-ups.
If there's going to be a shock it could be at Norwich where a weakened Premier League side tackle Doncaster who must be worth a small wager at 11-2 with Ladbrokes. On the double chance League One Donny are 6-4 at Coral.
In Scotland SPL leaders Motherwell are all the age as they visit Third Division Rangers. The young Ibrox side look off the pace in comparison to Scotland's leading contenders and Well should be backed at a best 21-10 with William Hill, although that price will fall.
Michael Higdon has been inspired this season and the Well hotshot can be backed at 11-2 with Skybet and William Hill to score first and 13-8 at 888sport to net at any time.
William Hill make Higdon 4-1 to net in a Well win while Lee McCulloch, who has scored in every match at Ibrox this season, is 6-4 to hit the target.
It's a busy night in Europe with top-flight games in Germany, Italy and Spain. Hannover at home to Nuremberg look best bets in the Bundesliga while Stuttgart should edge out Hoffenheim.
In Serie A I'm taking AC Milan to end a dismal run by beating Cagliari at home – it's a side they've taken three points off on eight successive occasions at the San Siro and they have Robinho back to give them a boost.
Inter cam maintain their 100 per cent away record at Chievo and Roma can take care of Sampdoria at home having been spared playing at Cagliari last weekend and handed a 3-0 win by league bosses.
In Spain I'll be taking Atletico Madrid at Real Betis but only if top scorer Falcao is passed fit. The French League Cup is best avoided but there has been money on big-spending Monaco, bossed by Claudio Ranieri, at 7-5 with Paddy Power to beat top-flight Valenciennes at home.
My both teams to score fivefold is listed below and I particularly like Man Utd v Newcastle, Moenchengladbach v Hamburg and Roma v Sampdoria if you want to stick to a treble.
Homes
Monaco
Hannover
Catania
AC Milan
Roma
Perm any 4 and all 5 (6 bets)
Fivefold pays a biggest £275.60 to a £10 stake at Ladbrokes
Aways
Spurs
Doncaster
Motherwell
Inter Milan
Perm any 3 and all 4 (5 bets)
Fourfold pays a biggest £580.01 to a £10 stake at Ladbrokes
Top Treble
Spurs
AC Milan
Roma
Pays a biggest £39.40 to a £10 stake at Ladbrokes
Super Single
Motherwell
(21-10, William Hill)
Both teams to score
Man Utd v Newcastle
West Brom v Liverpool
Moenchengladbach v Hamburg
Roma v Sampdoria
Stuttgart v Hoffenheim
Perm any 4 and all 5 (6 bets)
Fivefold pays a biggest £122.90 to a £10 stake at Blue Square, 888sport
I had a good result last night with my over 4.5 goals in the Chelsea Game … my accumulator tonight is;
Bayern Leverkusen
Arsenal
Spurs
QPR
Motherwell
Ath Madrid
also have BBT score accumulator but i always just pick whether the pen drops on the coupon!
AC, nothing wrong with random bets on btts as I’ve said many times.
Got to wait for those 2 matches to be replayed so my bet from last night is still alive….going to do 5 more games tonight but will decide what games closer to kick off
moenchengladbach both to score
slask wroclaw jjk-inter turku
roma assyriska-landskrona
ac milan varnamo-falkenbergs
norwich stuttgart-hoffenheim
reims aik-elfborg
chievo-inter milan
dodgy 4 fold
leverkusen
rangers
athletico madrid
liverpool
Hi some nice tips there Paul, just found your site and started off quite well with a couple of lines up recently, cheers! I saw previous posts re making btts lines in bet365. There are drop down menus in the football section at the top left of screen to do it quickly ie on today’s matches. Soccer, wednesdays matches, show soccer menu, small left arrow below, scroll down select goal/no goal from left menu and weds matches on right
Al, cheers for that and good luck tonight.
main 6 team multi
moenchengladbach
slask wroclaw
roma
ac milan
norwich
reims
dodgy 4 fold
leverkusen
rangers
athletico madrid
liverpool
both to score
jjk-inter turki
assyriska-landskrona
varnamo-falkenbergs
stuttgart-hoffenheim
aik-elfsborg
chievo-inter milan
Motherwell must be getting seriously lumped. They’ve went from 21/10 on Monday to 7/5 now with Hill’s
Done 4 draws yankee tonight – Spurs, Norwich, QPR & West Brom.
Kyle, they should be odds on, that’s why.
Double
dunfermline v aberdeen
&
rangers v motherwell
both to end in a draw
I’ve lost a fair whack on Italian teams over the last couple of weeks, with Juve being the most recent coupon buster last night. With the amount of corruption, that’s it finished with Italian teams on the coupon for me.
Gary, I don’t think it’s all bad. Juve drawing away to Fiorentina an’t be described as corrupt. It was probably 40 per cent home chance, 40 per cent draw chance. They are unbeaten this season and last but have drawn quite a few of those.
Yeah, fair comment Mr F. Not specifically saying that match was fixed lol but Milan messing up at home to Anderlecht and Roma throwing away a 2-0 lead at home to Bologna hasn’t done me any favours recently!
lumping on over 2.5 goals in arsenal, man utd, liverpool and norwich game and a motherwell win 14/1 betfair
QPR, MOTHERWELL,INTER MILAN AND ROMA
DONCASTER,MOTHERWELL,INTER MILAN AND NAPOLI
what do you think?
Con, not sure about QPR, would want to see teams. I’ve flagged up Donny but they’re a long shot and double chance is safer. Again check teams in case Norwich go near full strength.
Anyone have any thoughts on the Dunfermline v Aberdeen game or is it worth touching?
John, every game has a chance but until the weekend Aberdeen matches were low scoring.
John,
I have them both to score in my BTTS accumlator, mainly due to the fact that I think cup games are brilliant for BBTS
ac milan
atletico madrid
spurs
arsenal -1.5
qpr-reading btts
west brom-liverpool btts
17/1
Anyone fancy Norwich v Doncaster Btts??
Peter, I think it has a good chance. Was on my reserve list.
Just stuck £20 on all your home games….looks good :-)
20 pound double n arsenal-3 and spurs-2 at 3to1 and 100to30. Good luck tonite guys!
arsenal milan double pays 10/11 could be a shout
Not alot I like the look of tonight so taking a few teams to score a couple of goals.
Liverpool, Werder Bremen & Rangers all to score 2+ goals @ 9/1
Couldn’t be backing AC Milan at such short odds on that pitch. AC milan have lost both home games and Inter have lost both home games.
Neither have got used to the new pitch at all and hate playing on it.
AC milan havent even scored on the new pitch in 3 attempts (2 league and 1 CL)
GL All
Cheryl, Milan will need to get used to their new hybrid pitch at some point. It’s last chance saloon for the coach tonight.
Put 50p on all homes&aways in one line =£561 !!!
£5 on the rest, permed of course, I’m still up from last week and this Monday and Tuesday.
And a bonkers bet on Carlisle, Coventry and West Brom treble to win, for a laugh. My last 30p in my Hills online account – gets £75.
Definitely gonna be a couple of upsets in the capital cup I reckon.
By the way Paul, West Brom isn’t really a bonkers bet Paul, it’s a cert !!!!
And that’s from a reds fan.
Paul.
Do you know how individual odds are calculated? Do the bookmakers use a computer programme of ‘probability’ to determine the length of the odds?
Would be interested to know.
Cheers
John Bryan
John, as far as I know they look mainly at form and head-to-head. Also there is opinion in there too because they are decided by people not computers.
Paul, my dad lumped on Motherwell at 21/10 the other night. I think that price has gone.
I can understand why most punters fancy them but I’m not one of them.
I just cannot see Motherwell winning at Ibrox. I’ve just got a feeling that Rangers will rise to the occasion and get a draw at best.
I’ve bet Rangers Draw No Bet at 11/10 with McBookie.
Good luck everyone.
James, Rangers will need to be much better than they have been in the past few weeks to get a result.
not looking good for my btts first game and its 0-0 half time will end up finishing 1-0 to turku and keep them firmly in the driving seat for the veikkausliiga
Have Rangers kept a clean sheet yet this season? BTTS is surely a winner in that match.
Gary, they’ve kept a couple of clean sheets. My worry here is whether Rangers score. But I wouldn’t put anyone off any games for goals.
Went with Freiburg v Werder Bremen, Man Utd v Newcastle and Moenchengladbach v Hamburg, only a 4-1 both teams to score treble, let’s see how it goes
off to a flyer this fine thursday morning tropical storms put the tv out an my btts is done with the first game
Danny, where would you rather be? Faifley?
not in a million years Paul
£5 Athletico Madrid, Dunfermline, QPR, Arsenal -1 & Stuttgart
Motherwell years since they won in Govan could this be the night if they perform and supply Scotland’s leading striker they should win.
£5 on
Dunfermline DNB
Motherwell DNB
Hannover
A Madrid
BTTS 5 times let down by 1 team, hopefully luck will change tonight as i’m waiting on West Brom v Liverpool for my midweek acca. Homes down already with Bradford drawing last night. In Dumfries with the misses for a day out on monday and she popped into Ladbrokes to do the irish lottery. Whilst waiting for her i did the What will happen coupons for last night and tonight. Last nights came in, saying that i wouldn’t advise this bet as it is a lottery in itself. A few pints were on board when doing this bet. Silly gimmick really which makes more cash for the poor bookie. Good luck with all bets.
Duck, you’re right about the gimmicky bets. Looked at them a couple of times but never had a bet.
Done 6 fold Btts and cisse cavani Dempsey giroud 1st scorer lucky 15! Good luck all
gladbach down to 10 getting beat and other line liverpool getting beat the joys ae
want celtic at ibrox in the next round
Danny, now that would be interesting. How come Rangers don’t play like this in the SFL? They’ve really raised the game and are up for it, although they’ve improved considerably since Fran Sandaza went off crocked.
Come on Liverpool!
Need them to score 1 more goal to land my 9/1 treble
Just need Newcastle to score and my bets up but can’t see them scoring with the team they’ve got out
Cisse just scored so not a bad player to have out there.
John, Cisse gave me four out of five. Let down by Stuttgart, the only side not to score in the Bundesliga.
Had the Stuttgart game on my slip but seen that Freiburg had scored 6 goals in their home matches and Bremen scored 4 in their away games so went with that instead
John, I looked at Freiburg too but just one of those things.
no idea what there doing in the sfl must have wanted to prove some sort of point against motherwell they have played alot better with the boy hutton on also dont know how any the top 10 in the championship didnt swoop for lee wallace
well done John cisse 2-1
Cheers danny, just seen the score come up, unfortunately i’m not watching the game as i don’t have sky…lol must be one of a very small minority
no the same as it used to be with old sky they get you on the sky sports at 20 a month and 9 for espn so your at 29quid a month for 4 channels before you sort out music and all the rest of it dont no were your from but back a few year ago everyone in my street had knocked of virgin media until somebody grassed us should be someone in your area who could hook you up for about 150notes
hi paul, i was wondering if you could give me a few games to back on the very small matchcard tomorrow. thanks. i know that there is an italian game on
Ellis, it’s just Siena v Bologna. I’ll have a look but no promises. Will be starting to target the weekend card tomorrow.
dont know if you bother much with lesser leagues but hacken-helsingborg and the 3 superatten games scream both to score
Danny, don’t have that much time to look.
Paul can’t believe how unlucky btts were. Beaten by one team again. Good result for those who permed your selections
Chris, hopefully hit the target on Saturday. Picked the English ones already.
The same with me! Stutgart let me down to. Put my mark in the wrong box. Ment to put it in the munichangladbach box! Need spurs to score 1 more for my double!
Alex, Spurs just scored a third.
Happy days. Hope the liverpool get the winner.
Alex, just did.
I was also wondering if you could help me with what a perm is, i know you have explained it before, but, call me silly i dont understand it whatsoever
Ellis, google or look back and you’ll see explanations. I’ve said it too many times.
just my luck if liverpool hold on 4 fold paying $29.30 and ive got peanuts onit
yes woohoo
thank you Sahin, 9/1 treble landed which follows my winning 8/1 treble last night and my 10/1 treble last saturday
Starting to love these “to score 2+ goals” bets
i dont get it lol dont worry about it mate
Ellis, I’ll get round to it or someone can explain it.
Well another eventfull night btts up 4out of five get in,,,, if Roma av won (who hit woodwork late on) my treble an 4out of 5 home would have come in plus Monaco tried being 0-2 down ,,, ta for tips once again
Ellis
A “perm”enant is when your hair is tightly rolled into rollors of various sizes and a chemical is placed on them to make it the “perm”enant curl. This process is down with a chemical to break down your hairs natual enzymes and the the rollors reform them.
Permed as usual on the bts.
Live to bet another day !!!!
Unlucky Paul, still up on the week by £12.
Cheers m8
@Ellis HERE’S A COPY OF THE EMAIL PAUL SENT ME WAY BACK YEAR EXPLAINING PERMS. EASY TO UNDERSTAND……….
“Tony, a perm basically gives you the chance to get one or more selections wrong and still get a return but it doesn’t really work on short prices.
For example, my away tips last Saturday were Southampton, Wolves, Port Vale and Forfar. I advised perming three from four and any four.
This equals five bets, one fourfold and four trebles. Forfar was a wrong selection so I was left with one treble paying 25-1.
For a unit stake of £10 (total outlay £50) my return was £260 for one wrong.
But you can do things such as 4, 5 and all 6 (22 bets), a lucky 15 which is good for first scorers or correct scores or 3,4 and all 5 (16 bets) which I like for draws.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, Paul”
Cheers for the btts tips tonight. Only did the treble. Utd, Liverpool, roma.£50 on £250 back. Thanks again
Hi paul odds calculator won’t work on my phone , 2 o my btts were called off yesterday but the reamining 5 won , 20 pound stake would have paid 714.45 for 7 teams , but do u no roughly what five teams will pay all at 4/6 20 stake , maths is not my strongest point thanks
Stephen, the guys have beaten me to it.
I know most people on here prefer their football, and I’m definitely one of those. but with Ryder cup starting in 2 days, any opinions on it would be much appreciated. I personally think Europe are overpriced at 6/4. although I know playing in America could cause a bit of a problem and swing it in the Americans favour. I want to go big on Europe, to give myself 3days worth of entertainment, but I’d like to hear other peoples opinions/advice first.
Luke, if I have time I’ll do a piece. I’m thinking Europe but it could come down to a couple of putts here or there as both teams are strong. Paddy Power have an offer on just now and if you sign up you can get 4-1 Europe. If I was you I’d buy Thursday’s Racing Post which has Ryder Cup betting pull-out.
Stephen £20 on 5 teams to win at odds of 4/6 would return £257.20 which includes your stake.
http://www.ladbrokes.com/betCalculator/betCalc.html
@Stephen C £414.23p mate, well done Ste.
@Stephen C – sorry mate Chris is right I calculated 5x 5/6. Oops
Cheers Chris nice one happy with that been close but no cigar alately with btts
Inter Milan (Win), AC Milan (Win), Tottenham (Win), Liverpool (Win), Atletico Madrid (Win), Napoli (Win). Had a fiver on this and got £294 back. Pleased to get a winner for a change. Should of been braver and stuck Arsenal and Man Utd in as well but odds were not great considering it’s league cup, and they normally play their reserves.
Bobmck, it’s a decent win and you’d only be greedy if you added more in.
thanks Paul. golf isn’t my main sport by any stretch of the imagination, but I always find myself wrapped up in the Ryder cup each time it comes around. unfortunately I already have a paddy power account, plus there would probably be a limit on how much you could put on. call me mad, but I’m looking at trying to recover bad losses over last few days, hence seriously considering a large sum on Europe. I’ll make sure I read the racing post tomorrow, thanks!
Luke, I’ve had a look at the Post and it doesn’t surprise me to see a difference of opinion on their pages, some going for Europe and some going for USA. One guy even says “it’s better event to watch than to punt on” and I know what he means. Either side is capable of winning and that’s the problem. If you’re simply trying to recover bad losses this isn’t the way to do it.
I no thanks anyway Paul
I think USA will win the Ryder Cup this year,quite confident on that as much as I would love 2 see Europe win. However,i’d b looking 2 back Europe in any games involving McDowell and Lawrie,2 extremely determined scrappers. Think u’ll get good odds on any game involving Lawrie because he’s probably the least glamorous player taking part,he did really well the last time he played a Ryder Cup in America tho. Also,Sergio Garcia is always worth backing in anything other than the singles
Jonathan, once the pairings are revealed there should be good opportunities. The guys who should pick up points for Europe are McIlroy, McDowell, Westwood, Donald, Poulter and Garcia. Lawrie’s putting slightly worries me because it’s a course where most putts holed wins and that’s not been the strongest part of his game.
thanks Jonathan, sort of input I’m looking for, although I’d have preferred if you fancied Europe.
Following on from my last post……just checked Paddy Power and Paul Lawrie is 13/8 to win 2 or more points. I think this is very tempting. Wot u think Paul?
Jonathan, I’m not sure about Lawrie as I said. Also depends on how many games he’ll play. Could be left out once on each day so that leaves three matches to get two points from.
No bother Luke. Europe could well do it mate,Paul knows his golf and he’s backing Europe so it could go either way. My money’s on USA tho and as I say I feel Lawrie will b a big player this week. Saw an interview with him yesterday and he looked well up for it
Jonathan, it’s a tough call really. But I was asked the question and I’m going with Europe. All I’m sure about is that it will be close. Dustin Johnson and Rory McIlroy are the players being backed for biggest team points scorers.
that price for Lawrie to pick up 2 or more points seems fairly generous. not sure whether I’ll be getting stuck into individual markets or not though. I wouldn’t usually bet on the Ryder cup, as I get well into it anyways. just looking to recoup losses really, but chasing losses tends to only end in one way! may be better off looking at a decent value double or treble at the weekend. a Newcastle Sunderland double looks tempting at first glance.
thanks Paul. having read quite a few reviews and predictions now, everyone is struggling to split the 2 sides, with most tipped score being 14.5 – 13.5 in either teams favour. think I’ll put some money on Europe but nowhere near as much as first considered. thanks for your opinions guys.
Luke, think of it as a football derby. It will be fiercely fought and one or two little things could swing it either way.
very good comparison Paul. will possibly have small wager on Europe, with price drifting all the time. then probably try my luck in a few match bets