Oct 16: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat


MISS TREE’S win at 6-1 helped Johnb to a 4pts profit for the day.

He is now 8.32pts down for October and hoping to be back in the black on Sunday.

Johnb’s Sunday Tips

Kempton 2.30
Next Sensation 3-1 skybet

Newcastle 4.25
Dharoos 3-1 NAP/NB skybet (double stake)

Double 15-1 skybet

Antepost Tips

2000 Guineas 2017

CHURCHILL 20-1 (now 8-1) bet365

2017 Derby

CHURCHILL 33-1 (now 20-1) racebets

2000 Guineas 2017

Blue Point 14-1 racebets

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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    peter daryll 7 months ago

    Is there any truth that banned substances were found from reps from Palmer and Rouget at Ascot ?

    Well done all winners

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      Johnb 7 months ago

      Yes and it has been referred to the Bha and all horses involved have been tested, Signs Of Blessing, Architecture, Galileo Gold, and Almanzor,
      the substances were both “unallowable” and “allowable but without permission”

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    ciaran1988 7 months ago

    3.50 Newcastle – Dubai Fashion 5/2
    4.25 Newcastle – Laqab 9/4

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    wibblywobbly83 7 months ago

    Hi all new to the site been watching for a while and some excellent tipsters on here. Lucky 15 for me today on some shorty favs.
    Lord Huntington-kempton
    Taper Tantrum- kempton
    My tent or yours-Kempton
    Tell us more- cork

    Good luck everyone

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    davyb 7 months ago

    alsacienne 3.20 nc
    draycott place 3.25 cor
    palisade 3.50 nc
    slingsby 5.30 nc

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      spurs55 7 months ago

      well done davy
      i feel you are so close to a 4 from 4

      always keep an eye on your tips

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    7 months ago

    Hi everyone .. Didnt bother yesterday Saturdays are not for me

    N 3.50 SINDARBAN E/W

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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      7 months ago

      Hi, i have noticed a few other people saying the exact same thing about saturdays that they don’t bet on the horses, dont give a donald and busstop i think they were. Strange. I was just wondering why? To me it makes more sense as there is more choice on saturdays as there are more meetings? I’m sure you have a good reson as you seem to know your stuff with horse racing i’ve noticed. :)

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        champyr 7 months ago

        Saturday is more competitive due to bigger prize money I believe.

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        Johnb 7 months ago

        It’s one of racings great myths
        But when we look at the bigger picture we should see that a Saturday should be easier to find winners.

        The problem punters have with Saturday’s is its more competitive with the bigger races and that means more horses trying,
        during the week at the smaller meetings a lot of horses are not there to win, although it’s against the rules trainers still school in public in races which means it should be harder to find a winner as we have to also try to figure out the horses that are not meant to win.

        On a Saturday as I said we have more big races, worth more money so in most cases all the horses will be trying so really this should be easier for us.

        To me Saturday is just another day, there is a winner in every race and it’s my job to find it

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        7 months ago

        just look at yesterdays thread lot less winners tipped than in the week even though people were picking a horse in every race at Ascot

        Take the first race yesterday lots on here tipped ORDER OF SAINT GEORGE came nowhere .tips for 5 other horses in the same race not one of them won.these same guys do well in the week.

        channel 4 races often the worse on a SATURDAY they pick out the most difficult handicaps to show as they know people will want to bet on them as they can watch them on tv.

        john surely the more horses trying the harder it is to pick the winner especially in these huge handicaps on channel 4.lot more form to study than you average weekday race as well.The gamblers i know dont use that type of racing.

        saying that we are all different and thats the fun of horse racing.

        good luck everyone

        happy days

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          Johnb 7 months ago

          Not really because if every horse is trying then at least we have a good idea of what should happen, you have the effects of randomness to contend with but that’s for all races not just Saturday’s.

          If you have a race where only half the field are trying then it’s harder to work out as you have to figure out who is trying and who is not and that’s where we need a good knowledge of trainers and owners because humans are creatures of habit

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      alanm 7 months ago

      Nice one Boz

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    7 months ago

    Hi everyone, great day yesterday with nap winning so plenty of profit.
    I was wondering if anyone has had much luck on the scoop6 bet? I found out about it yesterday, if you had won it yesterday you would have won £140k! This is the type of bet i like, small bets for big money, i defintly have my eyes on the prize for next saturday! 😉

    All kempton

    2pm lord huntingdon 4t6***NAP*** £4
    230pm next sensation 11t4* £2
    305pm taper tantrum 4t6**NB** £4
    335pm cowards close 11t4* £2

    Total staked £12 :)

    Gl all

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    wn 7 months ago

    Idaho 13/8 Skybet for the Canadian International Stakes.

    Gone pretty big on it. What do you guys reckon?

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      Johnb 7 months ago

      Classic example of the bookies not knowing their stuff as the betting in Idaho’s race is all wrong, it’s far more a competitive race than they think
      PROTECTIONIST is a Melbourne Cup winner,
      DARTMOUTH has got some pretty decent form and has been underestimated by the bookies as he is still improving,
      ERUPT is due a big run and he is better than he has shown this season
      THE PIZZA MAN & WAKE FOREST are a danger for the Americans

      It’s been a hard season for Idaho but he is the best on paper and if fit will win but it is a hard race and one I wouldn’t like to bet on

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    wn 7 months ago

    Thoughts on Ventura Storm?going for a group 1 in Italy.

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    archy 7 months ago

    Morning guys. Thought id have a go at a low stakes yankee today and also follow the regulars

    2.45.. perfect symphony
    5.00.. the resdev way
    3.25.. draycott place
    3.45 .. massif central

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    alanm 7 months ago

    NAP Perfect Symphony 9/4 2.45 Newcastle
    NB Lightning Bullet 8/1 5.55 Naas
    They’re off and running Hickey’s Rock 10/1 1.50 Cork

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    7 months ago

    Afternoon all


    14.30 LEMONS GENT 12/1 * E/W

    15.35 COWARDS CLOSE 5/2 **

    16.45 TROJAN STAR *** NAP ***

    17.15 LOUGH DERG LEADER ** NB **

    gl all

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    7 months ago

    On the discussion above about Saturday racing ,

    its very simple with me nothing clever i just dont have the same success on Saturdays which i think
    is the same for a lot of the people on here.


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    ticketyboo 7 months ago

    5:00 Newcastle “KELVIN HALL 9/2 bet365

    2:00 Kempton “CLIFFS OF DOVER” 13/8 bet365

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    7 months ago

    2:30 Kempton – Next Sensation (NAP)
    3:25 Cork – Draycott Place (NB)

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    Johnb 7 months ago

    Stewards Report

    Race 2 – 2:30pm
    No Enquiry.

    Tom Scudamore, the rider of NEXT SENSATION (IRE), which started favourite and was pulled up, reported that the gelding stopped quickly. The Stewards ordered the gelding to be routine tested.

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    kev 7 months ago

    Nice naps Alanm and boz 😉

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    alanm 7 months ago


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    davyb 7 months ago

    2 winners and nr nice profit again

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    archy 7 months ago

    3out of 4. Not bad if i say so myself :)

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    davyb 7 months ago

    Wd m8

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    stevecee 7 months ago

    Well played sir!

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    Johnb 7 months ago

    October 12.32pts down

    Monday’s Tips

    Dbai 5/2 skybet

    Burmese 6/5 NAP/NB skybet (double stake)

    Double 6.7/1 skybet

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    archy 7 months ago

    Thank u guys. Done my learning of all u

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    archy 7 months ago

    Evening .tbought id get these up now . Prices bet365 . Mayb better elsewhere .

    2.50 .upgrade 6/1
    4.20.wadigor 7/4
    5.20.moss street 4/1
    3.00 olivers hill 4/1

    Yankee again.

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    7 months ago

    Thanks for the replys today guys. Learning every day from you lot on here. :)

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