May 15: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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IT was a 4pt profit for Johnb on Sunday thanks to 25-1 shot Spotify placing at 25-1.

Our man’s joint Nap/NB was a non-runner and he’s now 21.4pts down for May.

Johnb’s Monday Tips

Brighton 2:40
Broughtons Fancy 11-4 NAP/NB paddy power(double stake)

Wetherby 4:00
Auspicion 20-1 ladbrokes

Windsor 5:50
Buzz 16-1 ladbrokes

8:20
Astute Boy 20-1 ladbrokes

Also 0.1pt eachway yankee ladbrokes odds 5-2 20-1 16-1 20-1

Total stake 7.2pts

Broughtons Fancy NAP/NB

I have said on numerous occasions course form is vital at Brighton, it’s a unique course but it is still possible to find horses that have no course form. Broughtons Fancy looks like she can handle the course but it’s also down to the jockey, you need a jockey with good hands, well balanced and experienced.

“Although an intelligent jockey will beat experience any day for me, the part of the course that catches a lot of jockeys and horses out is the downhill part. It’s the steepest descent of any course in the world then comes the uphill final furlong finish. Too many horses lose too much stamina on the downhill part because the jockey loses control.

“Broughtons Fancy looks a good size for Brighton, in theory fillies should be suited to Brighton more than their male counterparts as they are built smaller and are more nimble. I don’t see the course being a problem today but you never truly know till you see them run there. Broughtons Fancy has been running better since changing stables and the trainer does have a decent record here.”

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68 Comments
  1. Profile photo of peter daryll
    peter daryll 2 months ago

    Alwahsh 6/4
    1.50 wetherby

    Crowned eagle 2/1
    5.50 Windsor – nb

    Firmament 9/4
    7.20 Windsor – nap

    Doubles and treble

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      jimron12 2 months ago

      Taking these three adding road to dubai and Yankee it ☺
      Fingers crossed

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        peter daryll 2 months ago

        Decent yankee might have a go myself , hopefully we have a decent day mate

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          recoba 2 months ago

          With use on these and Johns pick for a Canadian/Super Yankee.
          Couple of singles too(Alwahsh,Broughtons)

          GL guys I know I Could do with a good Monday.

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    clouduk 2 months ago

    Repost from yesterdays thread – See Peter has two of the same horses which is always nice 😀

    Tomorrows Tips – Bet365

    1.50 Wetherby – Alwahsh (NAP) – 2.50
    5.50 Windsor – Crowned Eagle (NB) – 2.87
    2.40 Brighton – Broughtons Fancy (Same as JohnB) – 3.25

    1 pt Treble 23.00 and Singles

    Also,

    1 pt on 5.00 Wetherby – Hannington – 5.00
    1 pt Double 16.0 Hannington & Broughtons Fancy

    Total win/loss +6 Points
    Total Stake 6 Points

    GL All

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    edgeman 2 months ago

    Am I missing something with Spotify? Did some bookies pay out on four places then? I backed it in a shop, 10 ew. But when it came fourth, I just threw my ticket away. There wasn’t 16 runners so I just assumed it had to be three places?

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      Mr Fixit 2 months ago

      Johnb or other racing fans will confirm but I know Paddy Power paid 4 places.
      To be honest Johnb wouldn’t claim a place if it didn’t place.

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      elvis parsley 2 months ago

      This is what sky bet had today.
      You should have checked your bookie to see if these terms applied there !!!

      https://m.skybet.com/horse-racing/event/20740864/time

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      Johnb 2 months ago

      edgeman it was an extra Place race where skybet pay four places if 10 runners or more
      Some bookies were the same four places at 1/5 odds and others were 3 places 1/4 odds

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        elvis parsley 2 months ago

        Broughtons fancy looks primed to strike, only drawbacks are the weight is a fair bit higher on turf, best form been on all weather and its his 1st run at this quirky track.

        Whitecrest has won 6 times in may\june including 3 here.
        These low graders don’t usually win 2 on the bounce but he did it in June 2015 winning at wolves then here 4 days later.

        I will go with course form and have a small wager on whitecrest – broughtons straight forecast for interest.

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        edgeman 2 months ago

        Thanks for the replies. I was out working, and I stopped at a shop in a small town just before the race. It was like an independent, definitely not one of the big boy chains. Pretty sure it was only 3 places in there. I’ve got Paddy power on line account as well. Oh well, teach me to do a bit of research in future.

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    For the eachway Yankee on Monday Ladbrokes are as follows

    2:40 Brighton
    odds 1/5 places 1-2-3

    4:00 Wetherby
    odds 1/4 places 1-2-3-4

    5:50 Windsor
    odds 1/5 places 1-2-3-4

    8:20 Windsor
    odds 1/5 places 1-2-3

    These could change with non runners

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    quazeehorses 2 months ago

    I really have no idea how you tipsters are liking brouthons today everywhere! what a rubbish horse and I think if whitcrest runs well it should win to my systems it comes 6th whereas your outside fancys today I like two to place or win mad how people have different systems I just see whitcrest winning then losing for another year may aswell win today why not no point coming second will be to FaT next week just my views I have plenty of respect (Ante post) knowledge of a patient Budder! All (religions welcome)😅FIRE TREE 4 at Weatherby place top 4 1/1 improve a lil should place and 2:50 LUCKY BEGGER place 11/10 great worker deserves a win and then the double at 3.2/1 adding a couple Johns biggys to place too

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      unicorn 2 months ago

      Wow. I must Quazee. You know your stuff. Not only did both your picks come in at decent prices. Your objection with Whitcrest was very good. Your system seems spot on.
      I used your 2 and SPADER from tip sultan and CROWNED EAGLE & FIRMAMENT from Peter Darryl and Jimron12. Who have been hot lately. For my Super Yankee.

      As always Alan. DC. BOZ. and the rest of you great minds. TY.

      U 2 BUS STOP. Always get a mention even though not posting of late.

      GOOD LUCK ALL & cummon FIRMAMENT!

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    double carpet 2 months ago

    Sticking to home soil today.

    Arbre De Vie evs 5.40 NAP
    Miss Me Now 6/1 6.10
    Open to the World 7/1 6.40
    Auvergnat 4/1 7.40
    Minella for Value 5/4 8.10 NB

    Have doubled nap and nb and singles on the others and a small ew treble

    BOL

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    jimron12 2 months ago

    Was not.going to bet ttomorrow but a few have caught the eye.

    Road to dubai 8-20
    Crowned eagle 5-50

    little double fell asleep last night didn’t press post 😅

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    fivebarone 2 months ago

    Been away for the weekend so hope the thread did well.

    4.20 Brighton. Spirit Of The Vale 7/1

    3.05 Kempton. Midnight Cowboy 3/1
    4.10 Kempton. Seven Kingdoms 5/2

    5.30 Towcester. Honey Pound 100/30

    7.20 Windsor. Firmament 5/2

    Now + 42.5 Points up to just 1 point stakes after 15 days

    Best of luck with your bets today guys

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    jimba 2 months ago

    I did spotify e/w with coral sadly they only paid out 1-2-3. Nae mind still good tip johnb👍

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    njbettor 2 months ago

    My bets today…

    1:50 W – Alwahsh 11/8 Sky
    £10

    2 K – OK Corral 8/13 WH
    £20

    2:10 B – Secret Strategy 2/1 WH
    £10

    2:20 W – Red Royalist 11/10 Sky
    £10

    2:40 B – Broughtons Fancy 3/1 WH
    £10

    4:30 W – Cray 7/2 WH
    £10

    4:40 K – Spader 15/8 sky
    £10
    4:40 K – Kohuma 14/1 Sky
    £1

    5:50 W – Crowned Eagle 9/4 WH
    £20

    £10 free bet hills:
    Alwahsh, red royalist, OK corral, Spader
    Pays £191.41

    £5 free bet sky:
    Alwahsh, OK corral, secret strategy, red royalist, cray, Spader
    Pays £1452.59

    All above taken with BOG

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      njbettor 2 months ago

      Just sifted through Windsor and added these…

      6:20 – Last Page 3/1 £10

      7:20 – Firament 5/2 £10

      8:20 – Road to Dubai 9/4 £10

      All at sky!

      Also got a £5 on their 20/1 RAB…

      Alwahsh, red royalist both to win and OK corral to win by 8+ lengths

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    tipsultan 2 months ago

    Brighton
    3.15- Swiss Cross- 7/1- 1point

    Wetherby
    Outlaw Torn – 8/1- 1 point

    Kempton
    4.40- Spader- 2/1 (NAP)- 2 point

    Good Luck all

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    hamish75 2 months ago

    Hi jimba the bookies got ye by the bawsssssss

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    hamish75 2 months ago

    Jimba sos shaky hauns they will tell ye it’s phone or on line bettin ye wud get 4 places but not fir the shop punters gl n ktf

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    jimba 2 months ago

    Cheers hamish

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    gazh 2 months ago

    5.35W-Bling King 10/3
    3.25W-Zodiakos 5/1
    4.00W-Mon Beau visage 13/2

    Small stakes day for interest. I think Zodiakos is interesting. Ran some good races last year, notably when 3rd behind Folkswood and Dolphin Vista. Ran in the Brittania Stakes last year and would need to be winning races like this to get in it again.
    Good Luck

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    harryjw 2 months ago

    Morning all,

    No bet day today with no horses meeting my criteria.

    Many thanks and GL to all

    May: -34.40

    Overall: +172.74

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    generous 2 months ago

    2 points lost yesterday
    1 donkey& 1 2nd @28/1 but beaten 3 L so can’t really complain,Beaten fair n square.
    42 up for may
    Today’s selections
    Kaspersky 11/1 bpg 720 w
    Je suis Charlie 15/2 bpg 810
    Also looking forward to yorks may meeting this week . Local course that family member works at.
    If only she could gets some tips for us .lol. Gluk all today.

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    Broughtons Fancy NAP/NB

    I have said on numerous occasions that course form is vital at Brighton, it’s a unique course as there is no other course anywhere like it but it is still possible to find horses that have no course form, Broughtons Fancy looks like she can handle the course but it’s also down to the jockey, you need a jockey with good hands, well balanced and experienced although an intelligent jockey will beat experienced any day for me, the part of the course that catches a lot of jockeys and horses out is the down hill part of the course, it’s the steepest descent of any course in the world then comes the uphill final furlong finish, too many horses lose too much stamina on the downhill part because the jockey loses control, Broughtons Fancy looks a good size for Brighton, in theory fillies should be suited to Brighton more than their male counterparts as they are built smaller and are more nimble, I don’t see the course being a problem today but you never truly know till you see them run there
    Broughtons Fancy has been running better since changing stables and the trainer does have a decent record here

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    de niro 2 months ago

    15-25 Royal Connoseur
    16/1 4 points win

    April 100 points up
    May 8 points down

    Good luck everyone today 😀

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    de niro 2 months ago

    Generous and fivebarone brilliant stats for May ! Superb !

    Alanm ? The main man ?
    Come back soon brother thread is much less without you.
    😀

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    ew thief 2 months ago

    Afternoon all well done winners yesterday
    Landing night 2.50w 28/1
    Specialv 3.25w 15/2
    Tempuran 4.20b 11/1
    Fastnet spin 5.50w 66/1
    Golden wolf 8.20w 16/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky31🍀Gl all

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    dj76 2 months ago

    Whilst i agree that whitecrest looks the biggest danger to johns nap/nb due to his course form it is worth noting that his 3 wins at brighton have come from 22 runs so i wouldn’t exactly class him as a prolific winner there.

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      elvis parsley 2 months ago

      Whitecrest wins.
      No good for my forecast though as brouhhton didn’t do the biz.
      Should have done single but hindsight is a wonderful thing ain’t it.
      Grrrrrrrrt

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    11 runners, now 50/1 or even 12/1 for a first three place with William hill, there is plenty to like and plenty to dismiss about Astute Boys runs so far,
    The odds for this horse are an absolute joke, granted today might not be the day but the odds are so far wrong that you can’t not back this horse, I had Astute Boy as more a 10/1 or 12/1 chance

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    azzthewigan 2 months ago

    komodo 2.20 cliff 3.25 flashman 4.10 caprice de anglaise 4.40 ew l15 ew singles well done all winners yesterday

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    quazeehorses 2 months ago

    I agree with what you say about broughtons just a bet on the switch to turf working a treat and as you say new stable this run well tell a lot at least

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    theplug 2 months ago

    killarney 8-10 minella for value 1/1
    killarney 7-10 woodland opera 7/4
    killarney 8-40 suncroft 5/2

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      philip66 2 months ago

      Re .. minella, the difference in the jockeys, j,code on sizing great The jockey on Minella not so! Change the jocks round dif result I’m sure

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    hudderstown 2 months ago

    Nap
    Kempton 3.05
    Clondaw Banker 9/4

    Nb
    Kempton 3.35
    Toviere 5/1

    Good luck all

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    Interesting 2:40 race with winner Whitecrest involved in all the controversy, my first, second and third view of the race was that stall 5 opened a fraction early due to Whitecrest trying to break through and also drifting late on to hamper Broughtons Fancy with no attempt by the jockey to correct the horse

    Interesting to see what the stewards make of it but yet again another place is all we have

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      billy boy 2 months ago

      Looked like a superb Brighton ride from Morris to me lifted it over the line if Broughtons was fast enough it would have went through the cap great returning price for the winner.

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        Johnb 2 months ago

        Stewards don’t agree with you

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          billy boy 2 months ago

          Pretty sure anybody that backed Whitecrest would agree and they get paid out that’s all that matters
          Morris was his usual strong in a finish and didn’t get any ban typical Morris.
          Murphy on the other hand sitting on the rail at Brighton school boy error run up rail never comes and wasn’t quick enough to take gap between first 2 horses.

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    alanm 2 months ago

    Nap Ballycassey 7/4 7.40 Kilarney 3Pts
    Nb whatareudoingtome 100/30 8.10 Kilarney 1Pt
    Double 1Pt

    May +18.75pts

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    over40 2 months ago

    Weather by 3.25

    Zodiakos 9/2 looks well handicapped and worth a bet, also Slemi 12/1 won the race last year, racing off a 1lb lower mark and arguably better drawn this year so done a rev FC.

    Good luck

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    Race 1 – 2:10pm
    THE toteplacepot AT totesport.com MAIDEN STAKES (CLASS 5)
    The Stewards gave permission for BALLYSAMPSON, trained by Simon Dow, and LAMBRINI LEGACY, trained by Lisa Williamson, to go early to post.

    Simon Dow, the trainer of BALLYSAMPSON, unplaced, reported that the colt was unsuited by the track.

    Race 2 – 2:40pm
    THE RETRAINING OF RACEHORSES ROR HANDICAP STAKES (CLASS 6)
    The Stewards held an enquiry into the use of the whip by David Egan, the rider of MR CHUCKLES (IRE), placed second, inside the final two furlongs. Being a 7lb claimer, Egan was offered a representative in the enquiry, but declined. Having heard his evidence and viewed recordings of the race, they found him in breach of Schedule (B)6 Part 2 in that he had used his whip above the permitted level. The Stewards suspended Egan for 2 days as follows: Monday 29 and Tuesday 30 May 2017.

    The Stewards held an enquiry into possible interference on the run to the line. Having heard their evidence and viewed recordings of the race they found that the winner, WHITECREST, ridden by Luke Morris, had interfered with BROUGHTONS FANCY, placed third, ridden by Timmy Murphy. The Stewards found Morris in breach of Rule (B)54.1 and guilty of careless riding in that he had allowed his mount to drift left-handed down the camber without sufficient correction, leaving BROUGHTONS FANCY short of room with Murphy having to take a check. They cautioned him as to his future conduct in races.

    The Stewards gave permission for BROUGHTONS FANCY, trained by Gary Moore, to go early to post.

    The Stewards noted that WHITECREST, drawn 5, had anticipated the start and accelerated the gate at the same moment as the race had been started, thereby enabling the filly to break quickly. Being satisfied that it was not caused through a faulty action of the starting stalls, they took no further action.

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      theplug 2 months ago

      johnb i would,nt back broughtons fancy when i saw that timmy murphy was riding it and im not just saying that because he got beat ,x jump jockey

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      philip66 2 months ago

      Whitecrest burst through the stalls, fact, it triggered the stall opening mechanism so they all opened shortly after, fact. Would it have won without that lightening break, don’t think so. Would Broughtons have won with a better run , not sure, not be the first time anybody has had no luck on the rails, happens time n time again. All down to luck,

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    rorywhite91 2 months ago

    Tadaawol 9/1 e/w 4.00 wetherby, NAP

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    de niro 2 months ago

    18-20 Wildnightinvegas 16/1.
    5 points win

    18-50 Don’t Blame Me 12/1
    4 points win

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    jimba 2 months ago

    Alanm, on your picks this evening. Good u r back👍 GL🍀

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    jimba 2 months ago

    Alanm, Get In!! Nap wins, well done bud👏 Happy Days🙌

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    njbettor 2 months ago

    My bets today…

    1:50 W – Alwahsh 11/8 Sky
    £10
    ** LOST **

    2 K – OK Corral 8/13 WH
    £20
    ** WON **

    2:10 B – Secret Strategy 2/1 WH
    £10
    ** WON **

    2:20 W – Red Royalist 11/10 Sky
    £10
    ** LOST **

    2:40 B – Broughtons Fancy 3/1 WH
    £10
    ** LOST **

    4:30 W – Cray 7/2 WH
    £10
    ** WON **

    4:40 K – Spader 15/8 sky
    £10
    4:40 K – Kohuma 14/1 Sky
    £1
    ** LOST **
    By a head*

    5:50 W – Crowned Eagle 9/4 WH
    £20
    ** WON **

    Last page settled as VOID by sky and other 3 were at Windsor and abandoned

    + £71.63 today

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    generous 2 months ago

    Two points staked
    2 points returned due to nrs Windsor .
    42 up may .on to tomorrow
    Well done all winners today.

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    quazeehorses 2 months ago

    Got very lucky with Whitcrest today but hey had plenty more unlucky days than lucky isn’t that “gambling” unless your betting on BOLT you never know
    Other two picks were on fire onto the next day
    Great info from people on here thanks unicorn much appreciated and JohnB sorry if anything was worded wrong was pushing for more info from yourself was all
    Look forward to seeing all tips

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    u2me413 2 months ago

    When should we expect the good or bad news with regards to churchill

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