Jan 19: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat


NO joy for Johnb on Wednesday with a second place for his NB as good as it got.

He’s now 34.75pts down for January and says: “I was going to advise Warm Words at Southwell on Thursday as it looks one of the biggest certainties ever although after some rides recently I don’t know. Anyway although 5-4 was available it didn’t last long as most people have realised this horse should be about 1-4.”

Johnb’s Thursday Tips

Chelmsford 6:25
Regarde Moi 10-3 NB bet365

Serenade The Stars 9-4 NAP bet365

Double 13.08-1 bet365

Johnb’s Saturday Anteposts

Rossington Main Hurdle
Haydock 2.50

Elgin 5-2 NAP/NB Skybet (double stake)

Peter Marsh Handicap Chase
Haydock 3.15

Alary 3-1 Skybet

ALARY & ELGIN double 13-1 skybet

Antepost Tips

  • 1000 Guineas 2017 – PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 Betfred (now 25-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – CHURCHILL 20-1 bet365 (now 6-4)
  • 2017 Derby – CHURCHILL 33-1 Racebets (now 7-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets (now 33-1)

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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    davyb 2 years ago

    walt 1.40 win
    boagrius 1.20 lud
    merriment 3.45 south
    new rich 5.20 ch

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    trotters 2 years ago

    Wats peoples thoughts on the 12.25 southwell please?? Gl guys

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    gerdub 2 years ago

    Johnb, been reading alot of good reports about ALARY, could you please tell me what it’s previous form is?

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      jimron12 2 years ago

      Not very good but at home been flying there’s a lot of expectation and taken on trust but jb has said he saw with his own eyes and that’s good enough for me 👍

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    alanm 2 years ago

    NAP The Storyteller 5/2 1.10 Thurles
    NB Alfolk 9/4 12.55 Southwell gl

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      alanm 2 years ago

      NNB Fille Des Champs 9/4 3.00 Ludlow

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      trotters 2 years ago

      Thanks allan! I lost on the nb as i had word for it and then u tiped it! I went heavy ill admit but thank the lord for ur nap! Im in nice profit! Heart attack nearly

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    jimron12 2 years ago

    Walt 1.40

    Buttercup 2.10

    Battleford 1.10

    Really like these three shorties so just the one bet as a treble for A bit of birthday luck 🎉🎉🎉

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    gerdub 2 years ago

    Thanks jimron, looking forward to seeing it run on Saturday!

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    paddy irishman 2 years ago

    Cracking card at Thurles but lots of short priced favs so just having the one bet

    HolowTree 9/1 ew 1.45

    Good luck

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    generous 2 years ago

    NAP 345 southwell 10/1
    Gluk all

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      elvis parsley 2 years ago

      alary won just 2 career races in 3 years in FRANCE , none of his opponents to date would even be good enough to be entered in the gold cup, never mind be placed in it.
      He did place in the French gold cup, yes there is such a race.
      In his races his sp prices have ranged between 7-2 and 33-1 and in his last outing was 8-1 in a french grade 1 against some mediocre opposition, which doesn’t suggest even against average opposition the punters in France didn’t see him as a wonder horse.
      He has only ever raced on 2 tracks and fences in UK are a different proposition.
      If he had joined a.n.other and not tizzards would he be favourite off top weight for Saturday’s race ?? Based on his track form.

      I will be there to see him on Saturday as I’m on a racing uk freebie, and it will be fascinating to see how he gets on but the hype machine is moving far too quickly for me until he proves himself against the best in this country.

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    tipsultan 2 years ago

    1.20- BOAGRIUS- 2/1 (NAP)
    3.00 MIDNIGHT TARGET- 10/3- (NB)

    1 point singles and double

    Good Luck
    January- profit- +0.47 points

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    2 years ago

    Hi everyone

    Hopefully found a bit of value today will be betting e/w on the first 3

    S 12.55 – Log Off — 8/1– NB
    S 1.30 – Pull The Pin — 8/1
    S 2.00 – Among Angels — 8/1
    S 2.35 – Nuzha — 7/2– NAP

    Good luck everyone

    Happy Days

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    singhsimma 2 years ago

    15:10 Southwell – Zoravan
    14:35 Southwell – White Royale Nb

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    singhsimma 2 years ago

    Also backing all 3 Appleby horses running at Southwell in an EW PATENT.

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    ticketyboo 2 years ago

    2:10 Wincanton TWENTY EIGHT GUNS 12/5 BET365

    1:20 Ludlow AMOUR DE NUIT 6/5 BET365

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    2 years ago

    Morning all,

    With the Meydan card looking very tricky and nothing meeting my criteria in the U.K. & Ireland I will be sitting out today’s racing I’m afraid.

    I can pass on a good word for On His Own, whom is expected to go well in hunter chases this season after recently scoring in a point to point, but in what looks a very competitive race today I am happy to let him run unbacked.

    Back tomorrow.

    Many thanks and GL to all

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    2 years ago

    Morning all


    14.25 UN ANJOU …7/2..

    15.00 FILLE DES CHAMPS …9/4… ** NB **

    15.35 PORT MELON .. 4/1


    15.20 SATORIAL ELEGANCE .. 5/1..

    15.55 ST SAVIOUR .. 6/4.. *** NAP ***

    gl all

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    2 years ago

    Bozz Great start with LOG OFF got the 8/1 as well


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    azzthewigan 2 years ago

    golden plan 1.45 borough boy 2.00 emporer command 2.25 pacommand 3.10 macs legend 3.25 well done all winners yesterday cheers Alanm and boz awsome tipping

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    Johnb 2 years ago

    It’s always a lot easier to say a horse won’t do well than saying it will do well, I pride myself in being able to spot talent and when I see it I act on it, I don’t always get it right but more often than not I do which is why I succeed with the big prices,
    I understand people being cautious but after a horse has proved itself it’s too late as all value has gone,
    A value bet is only value because it’s being under bet,
    Thistlecrack advised at 20/1 for last seasons World Hurdle, some comments were that the horse hasn’t run against anything yet, so by the time he had proved himself he was a lot shorter,
    Thistlecrack advised at 20/1 for the King George & 20/1 for the Gold Cup on 17th March 2016 although I had said in November 2015 that Thistlecrack was a Gold Cup horse, some comments were “he hasn’t jumped fences yet” then it was “he hasn’t beat anything yet” but by the time he demolished the King George field although not that strong a race he was down to 5/4
    People were saying Golden Horn wasn’t good enough and he wouldn’t get the Derby distance, he was advised long before he was even entered for the Derby and before connections even thought about the Derby as they too weren’t confident about the distance, there have been horses that didn’t run but overall I think it proves the profit outweighs the risk.

    Gambling is about not only believing in a horses ability but also believing in your own, if you back a horse at 33/1 antepost and it goes to 3/1 then doesn’t run, so what
    You have proved that you got it right as you got the value and the next antepost horse you bet could run, people say don’t back antepost because so much can go wrong which is right but I would much rather continually get the best odds and take the risk the horse might not run than wait for race day and the horse is odds on.

    Alary as I mentioned the other day has only won two races but has run well in a lot more
    As I said I look at potential rather than form and I have always said it, potential gets you the best odds not form,
    All horses have potential, some more than others and it just needs unlocked,
    Alary in my opinion has a vast amount of potential and he may now be at a trainer that can unlock it or more likely Alary will unlock it himself by working with better horses as working with a better standard brings out the best in you.

    What Alary has to do on Saturday is huge, to win a handicap with a rating of 162 would be impossible for the vast majority of horses, he doesn’t have to win on Saturday to be a Gold Cup horse but a win makes him a serious contender,
    Alary moves through his races well he will stay all day, acts on all ground conditions and he is a decent jumper, I saw him on the gallops and he looked a far better horse than he had in France although word is that at first that wasn’t the case,
    There were races that would have been easier as Alary wouldn’t have had to give weight away and I wouldn’t have picked this race as it is so difficult but connections wanted this race because of the money on offer which says connections are very confident.

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    Johnb 2 years ago

    Just reminds us even the good things can get beat

    Stewards Report
    Race 5 – 3:10pm

    Tom Marquand, the rider of WARM WORDS, placed fourth, reported that the filly stumbled leaving the stalls and was never travelling thereafter.
    The Stewards ordered WARM WORDS to be routine tested.

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    jim burnside 2 years ago

    I c warm words one of the biggest certainties ever finished 4th

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      Johnb 2 years ago

      It happens, just look at Djokovic although Novak wasn’t as much of a shock

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    singhsimma 2 years ago

    Zoravan nap came in lovely jubbley

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    2 years ago

    bad day for me but well done all the winners

    gl all

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    alanm 2 years ago

    One for tonight Moayaad 7/2. 9.00Chelmsford

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    alanm 2 years ago

    Just the Nap from me today onwards we go.

    Well done all winners today Boz nice 8/1 beat mine but hey Ho great shout.

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    Johnb 2 years ago

    Great ride from Lulu there, tactically it was faultless and a strong ride down the home stretch

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      gollum2882 2 years ago

      i was lucky enough to get 10/1 last night, couldnt believe its opening price.

      quality ride though

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    Johnb 2 years ago

    0.25pt profit Thursday
    January 34.5pts down

    Shaama Grise 13/8 NAP/NB betfred (double stake)

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