Jan 12: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat


JOHNB’S double-stake tip could only manage second place on Wednesday and his other pick was beaten too.

So it was 4pts lost and our man is now 22.75pts down for January. He says: “I did want to advise Caprice D’anglais again on Thursday but at 10-11 I can’t, I know some people don’t mind backing odds on but I don’t.”

Johnb’s Thursday Tips

Chelmsford 5:50
Garter 10-3 NB paddy power

General Hazard 11-4 NAP Ladbrokes

Double 14/1 Ladbrokes

Antepost Tips

  • 1000 Guineas 2017 – PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 Betfred (now 25-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – CHURCHILL 20-1 bet365 (now 6-4)
  • 2017 Derby – CHURCHILL 33-1 Racebets (now 7-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets (now 33-1)

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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  1. Profile photo of davyb
    davyb 2 years ago

    Fredericka 2.o nc
    Master bob 3.o nc
    Watersmeet 3.30 nc
    Steeltrain 4.30 nc

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    jame590 2 years ago

    Hi John any update on your latest horse youve spotted for your ante post tips. Ive followed your previous ones and your record os unbelievable.

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      Johnb 2 years ago

      Yeah, got a bit annoyed as the trainer has ended up telling everyone who will listen just how good this horse is, I maybe should have mentioned the horse when he was available at 100/1 for the Gold Cup but I wanted to wait and also tip him for his next race but thanks to Colin Tizzard we won’t get a decent price now, the horse in question is ALARY who has been bought by Ann & Alan Potts who’s colours were made famous by the Sizing horses
      Alary won’t beat Thistlecrack but a place isn’t out of the question but really you are looking at 2018 Gold Cup for a better chance but Thistlecrack could still be about then,
      But I have witnessed Alary first hand and he is something special

      Alary running in France Number 4 and the horse with the white face on the far side, sorry for the French commentary

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        Johnb 2 years ago

        Now 25/1 for Gold Cup but as I say he won’t beat Thistlecrack or shouldn’t beat Thistlecrack

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          jame590 2 years ago

          Thanks for the reply i had read tizzards comments on Alary sounded very excited and had a decent record in the gold cup and king george equivalent in France

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    paddy irishman 2 years ago

    Thanks for all the comments yesterday guys, much appreciated.
    Lets see how i get on with this lot

    NAP midnight Jade 3.10 leic
    NB Un Prophete 1.05 leic
    (Price just gone to 9/4 from 3/1)

    And a longshot ew lucky 15

    Raktiman 20/1 2.50 catt
    Maggie Blue 25/1 3.20 catt
    Popelys Gull 16/1 3.50 catt
    Tahanee 7/1 4.50 meydan

    Good luck with your bets

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    Johnb 2 years ago

    General Hazard

    Lulu Stanford on this horse for the second time, she was onboard two runs ago in what was a slowly run race over a distance just a bit too far at this early stage of his career, last time out with Louis Steward onboard it was another slow run race and the jockey ended up too far back but finished well,
    General Hazard still has a lot of improvement in him,
    This race has the look to it that it will be run quicker so hopefully Lulu can sit just off the pace


    It looked a good little race that Garter was in last time but just found one a bit better, that horse has since won again to frank the form and brought up the three timer,
    Garter looks to have a good chance here of getting another win,
    If I had to worry about one horse it would be Varsovian at 8/1 and that’s massive but hopefully Lulu can save her win for the 7pm race,
    I think Garter could lead all the way here or I am hoping the jockey goes out and makes the pace

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    2 years ago

    Evening all,

    Well done to all the winners today -paddy, bozz, Jimron, busstop Amy anyone else I missed. Today was a rather disappointing day for myself something went wrong with Money Maid as she was pulled up! Also Bowban bumped into one and finished second but he is one for the trackers that’s for sure.

    I’ve just spent the last 5 hours going over tomorrow’s racing and have looked out 5 selections. Now I have to apologise in advance – 3 of these have met my criteria for increased stake bets (very rare three in one day). I temped with not backing them all today but I have to stick to the rules of my system. I understand this is a lot of points being staked tomorrow but I am only posting the bets that I have DONE myself with the money coming from my betting fund. I am really hopeful of a good day tomorrow – but as always NOTHING is assured.

    I have added in small write ups at the moment, full ones will follow in the morning.

    14.50 Catterick – Doing Fine 4/1 EW (0.75 pnts ew)

    Good run last time at Sandown on second start for new yard. Handled railway fences well and this looks a slightly easier race. Looks sure to go well again for the hot Mullholland/Fehlily combination. Good each way bet

    15.30 Newcastle – Natural Scenery 7/4 (15pnts win)

    Smashed the track record at Wolves on only Tapeta start. Remains on same mark as useful 3rd at Lingfield last time (I’m not she she handled the tight bend on both starts there). Looks sure to handle Newcastle and with front runners record on the round course she can sit off the pace and pounce late.

    16.30 Newcastle – Suzi’s Connoisseur 12/1 EW (0.75pnts ew)

    Looks made for this course and is dangerously well handicapped. Weather will make it very hard for those on the pace so this hold up horse has an each way chance.

    17.00 Newcastle – Gracious John 2/1 (15pnt win)

    Well in these conditions. Ran well last time out when giving huge amounts of weight away in C&D handicap. Yard is flying at the moment and should be suited the pace I expect Mythmaker to set.

    18.35 Meydan – Sanshaawes 7/1 EW (7.5 points ew)

    Ran a good race on reappearance last week in a listed contest. Looks sure to be put right for the race tomorrow and back in a handicap he looks sure to go well. Last year he finished 3rd on debut before winning next time and with Soumillion back in the saddle there looks to be every chance of that happening again. He is only 2lbs higher than that win last year. Many off the opposition are returning from long layoffs and different long term targets but Sanshaawes will be in it to win it tomorrow and looks a stand out each way bet at 7/1.

    Many Thanks and GL to all

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    tipsultan 2 years ago

    Only one from me today and going with 5 points on this..
    Catterick- 1.50 -A Little Magic -13/8- (NAP/NB)- 5 points

    Good Luck everyone

    December- Loss- 15.87 points

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    leando 2 years ago

    2.50 Catt
    Alto des Mottes 11/1

    8.00 Chelmsford
    Sir Jamie 12/1

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    2 years ago

    Hi everyone

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    2 years ago

    Hi everyone

    After a good day yesterday just having one bet today .Noted this one down after its last run so got Stick with it.

    Newc 3.00 — MISTER BOB _- 13/2

    will do a f/c with the Johnston horse

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    champyr 2 years ago

    Hi Bozz, straight forecast or reverse?

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    2 years ago

    I always r/v forecasts

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    theplug 2 years ago

    7-00 chelms exceeding power 6/1
    5-50 chelms medicean diablo 5/1

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    alanm 2 years ago

    NAP Desert Force 5/2 5.25 Meydan
    NB Jessica Jo 4/1 8.00 Chelmsford
    EW Straidnahanna 6/1 2.50 Catterick

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    tommy400 2 years ago

    Holiday magic 430
    Oliver hill 210
    Top ville Ben 220
    High bridge 220
    Lucky 15
    Becky the thatcher 1250
    Sunday central 340
    Page of wands 230
    Sizing Sahara 240
    Ew lucky 15

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    azzthewigan 2 years ago

    flashman 12.35 restraint of trade 1.05 ballyculla 2.50 compadre 3.40 well done all winners yesterday

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    rilester 2 years ago

    NAP Newc 5.00 Mythmaker
    NB Chelm 5.50 Baltic prince

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    jimron12 2 years ago

    Impulsive star 1.20 nap/nb

    Good luck all

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    ew thief 2 years ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    Trapper peak 1.05l 10/1
    Authorized too 2.10l 7/1
    Bally Lagan 2.40l 6/1
    Winterlude 3.30n 8/1
    Flaming spear 4.30n 8/1
    Doc sportello 5.00n 25/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky63🍀Gl all

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    ticketyboo 2 years ago

    3:00 Newcastle ISHARAH 2/1 bet365

    20:00 Chelmsford JESICA JO 4/1 bet365

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    2 years ago

    Afternoon all 2 winners yesterday so a bit of profit.


    14.10 OLIVERS HILL ..100/30

    14.40 REDMOND .. 11/2

    15.10 STORMING STRUMPET ..7/2


    13.50 A LITTLE MAGIC.. 15/8

    busy afternoon have to record the racing back tomorrow

    gl all

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    richiezero 2 years ago


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    de niro 2 years ago

    Newcastle 15-30
    Natural Scenary 11/8

    strongest lay bet of the year so far for me – despite it being so well backed
    Watersmeet 11/2 &
    Winterlude 8/1 For the win

    20 points lay on natural scenery
    1 point win on watersmeet
    2 point win on winterlude

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    recoba 2 years ago

    Into Evens now. I cashed out my Yankee there(one selection was Nr)with only Natural Scenery to run. Got it on another line but so could say I’m covered either way.
    Good day so far and more to go…Cheers guys 😉

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    trotters 2 years ago

    Nimr 4.30
    Just had a txt

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    2 years ago

    few winners today on the thread .well done JIMRON, TIPSULTAN, BUSSTOP , PADDY .HARRY


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    theplug 2 years ago

    a lot of good winners today well done everyone waxie if your looking at this are we going out sunday for the united v liverpool game

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    spurs55 2 years ago

    maybe nothing but a G. halpin is racing in the last at newcastle i wondered if thats the same halpin that races in ireland?

    if it is, i was thinking why has he come all this way for one race !!!

    maybe nothing

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    theplug 2 years ago

    not much time left any one give chiclet any chance

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    spurs55 2 years ago

    i think it maybe nothing looking at the card now… strange though

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    spurs55 2 years ago

    many thx ew thief had all yours today..top tipping mate.

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    telge 2 years ago

    Bustop, Harry thanks again, top tipping lads

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    2 years ago

    Not a bad day over all after staking 48 points. Doing fine was a non runner but Sanshaawes ran well for 3rd (7/1) and Natural Scenery got the job done nicely- 7/4 was a lovely price last night.

    Over all ended up with a 15.38 profit on the day.

    Well done to everyone else with winners.

    Back tomorrow

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    bpabsie 2 years ago

    Thanks h nice one

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    alanm 2 years ago

    Nap Temple Road 2/1. 4.00Lingfield
    Nb Political Policy 14/1. 6.30 Dundalk. GL

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    paddy irishman 2 years ago

    NAP Cabragh 2.40 sedge
    NB Guard of Honour 7.00 Dundalk
    NNB Timeforben 3.40 sedge

    Hopefully the racing goes ahead
    Good luck

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    theplug 2 years ago

    CAPTAIN K 8-45 WOLVER 13/2
    KYLLACH ME 5-45 WOLVER 11/4
    OOSEVEN 3-20 HUNT 10/11

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    jimron12 2 years ago

    Strategic force 5.00 nap/nb 3/1

    Waiting to see how bad the tracks are tomorrow as it’s still snowing on an off here in Wales ….

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    jimron12 2 years ago

    Like to add young special 6.00 9/2 of welds down in class second appearance could improve enough to take this lot 👍

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