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Firstly, Happy New Year to everyone. Hope you all ended the year in the + with your betting. Though the last couple of weeks has been tough, it's been a decent year for the thread, especially the last six months. Hopefully, you can find some winners to kickstart the new year off in the right way!
Lady Adare was a non-runner at Newbury, probably due to the ground. I thought she would be fine tackling that surface, but clearly, connections felt different. I still think she is a horse to follow and I'll be keeping my eyes peeled for where she goes next.
Grivetana was very poor, she clearly didn't enjoy the conditions and didn't give her true showing.
Tramore 2:15
Early prices are saying that STATTLER is around a 10/11 shot, it's not for all punters backing a horse at that kind of price, but I think he is the most likely winner.
This race doesn't look particularly great, and I was hoping that his price would be a little bit better than what it is due to Minella Indo taking his place in the lineup, but it hasn't happened. Either way, I don't think Minella Indo is a top-level performer anymore. He did win the Gold Cup a couple of years ago, but I feel like that race might have put a dent into his career as it does to many. I also think this step back in trip isn't ideal, he has always been a strong stayer, so the 2m 6f distance doesn't look ideal. I'd say the trip isn't ideal for Stattler either, but he might have a little more pace about him, he has finished 3rd in a Grade 1 over hurdles at this trip.
The fact that Willie Mullins sends this horse here suggests it's going to be one of his main Gold Cup hopes. He has used this race as a prep run for Al Boum Photo on many occasions and considering he is a dual Gold Cup winner, who can argue with Willie? I think it's a nice opener for his season and he should be winning this race.
Fairyhouse 2:35
At the time of writing the odds haven't been compiled, but I'd like to think that Scarlet And Dove will be installed as favourite. I hope that will happen, as I'm hoping DOLCITA will be a better price.
Dolcita did beat Scarlet And Dove when they met a month and a half ago, but the latter horse didn't jump well and I can imagine the bookies and punters will remain faithful to her and believe she heavily needed the run. That could be true, but for me, her jumping was terrible that day and I couldn't touch her with a barge pole on the back of that performance, she's a very classy performer on her day but I think Dolcita might be able to improve past her and the others in this field and win her second race in a row.
It'll be interesting to see how Danny rides her today as Paul Townend rode her with plenty of patience at Clonmel and it seemed to work a treat. I think those tactics worked for that specific race, and I don't think she has to be ridden like that every time. Ballyshannon Rose ran from the front in that Clonmel race, so I'd hope that if no one pesters her for the lead that Danny will sit close in behind so that she can't get away from them. But if no one does go for the lead I'd be more than happy for Danny to grab the race by the scruff of the neck as he is a superb jockey from the front, and is one of the best at getting the fractions spot on.
On ratings, she has a fair bit to find and I think people have taken the approach that the main horses underperformed the last time they met than saying Dolcita improved. I can see why they believe that as Ballyshannon Rose was a close second, but I think she got that close because she was prominent and Dolcita was held up, and if I'm honest I think Dolcita won with a fair bit in hand.
Musselburgh 2:45
I had a runner in the race which AL ZARAQAAN won and I was very impressed with the way he won that race. I thought he was a progressive horse, but might have been found out when carrying a big weight on soft ground, but he put me in my place as he won with a fair bit in hand.
Due to that easy success, he has been hit with a 9lb hike in the weights, which makes his task of winning this race much tougher, but I can't help but be impressed by him. He's clearly a horse who is still progressing and must be a dream horse to own as he knows where the winners' enclosure is. He has won 4 times on the AW and 4 times over hurdles. This race is much tougher than what he won recently, but I like the idea that Archie Watson is returning to this track again. He doesn't have many jumps runners, but he has a very good strike rate with those which he does have, and whenever he sends them to Scotland or Northern England they have to be very respected.
Exeter 12:20
309 days off the track and making your chase debut doesn't sound like a good mixture but I think that MARCO ISLAND is too well-handicapped off a mark of 117 to ignore.
This horse has the ability, there's no denying it, and if he takes to chasing like I think he will, he could be a fair few pounds ahead of the handicapper. He was a decent bumper horse, winning nicely on debut and that ability transitioned to his hurdles run where he finished 2nd on hurdles debut and then won on his second time of asking. The form of his hurdles runs now look quite good. The horse which beat him, Git Maker, is a horse I like over fences (runs today as well, but is odds-on) and is definitely a 130-rated chaser. He beat Mothill when giving him a stone of weight, and that horse has won twice since, including a good Class 2 handicap at Chepstow. His bumper form isn't too shabby either. He beat Cruz Control who won his hurdles debut recently, recording an RPR of 121 in the process, plus there were some other winners behind.
There are some decent horses who have won over fences already, so they will have the experience over Marco Island, but I feel like this race is gagging for an unexposed horse to wipe the floor with them, and I think that is my selection.
Cheltenham 12:10
There could be a few decent horses coming out of this race but I think today's conditions could suit the strong staying WEVEALLBEENCAUGHT.
Nigel Twiston-Davies' 3m PTP winner made a nice impression on his hurdles debut at this track back in November when finishing behind a nice Paul Nicholls horse. He was outpaced that day on good ground, which isn't a surprise but he stuck to his task very well and made some eye-catching ground when staying up the hill. I think he is a 3m + horse, especially over fences in the future, but on testing ground on a stiff track like Cheltenham and hopefully running behind a decent gallop will allow him to show his class over this trip.
Cheltenham 1:55
I put up COCONUT SPLASH a couple of months ago when he ran in a Grade 3 at Wetherby. I was sweet on his chances that day, as were connections as he was well backed into 9/4F. In hindsight, he ran a very nice race to finish third on seasonal reappearance as the winner that day was extremely well-handicapped.
I'm fairly certain that this horse was intended to run in a similar race a couple of weeks ago at this track but that was when meetings were being cancelled left, right and centre. I fancied him for that intended race as I thought he is still well-handicapped off his current handicap mark, and it will only be a matter of time before he does get off the mark over fences and win a nice pot. He has some smart form last year when he was a novice chaser, including finishing 2nd to Chantry House but for one reason or another, he couldn't get it right and get his head over the line in first place.
Evan Williams is a crafty trainer, who loves a bit of a gamble, and he does well in big handicaps like this, as we've seen with his great horse, Coole Cody who has won plenty round here, as well as running many great runs in defeat, so it's not a great surprise to see this horse going down a similar path.
Happy new year amigos !
Rember – salt – fanny – shot. !
14:05 Exeter – canty bay 10/1
15:35 catterick – miltiades 7/1 nappy rash !
Stay away from “hangover ” Hughes 2moro ! He will still be drunk sureley ! Ha
Surely benson will finally get his head down in front 2 Moro in the last at Musselburgh and deservedly so currently 9/4 worth a few notes perhaps
id rather back the virtuals than ever back benson again.
True if you ve backed him the past few times as a single you won’t get your money back today at the price but it’s not a lot different backing a horse that won for you last time out and loses today it’s eating into the profit you made on the horse last time it’s mugs game we all know that . Just got to treat each day as it presents itself and what’s going to give you a profit on the day with the evidence to hand . There are many angles of attack which ever way you choose ultimately in the end we all lose because of all cheating and fixing so the right horses never end up winning anyway . There’s no right or wrong . Some days you win some days you lose . I’m lumping on benson now hahahaha .
Unless you lump down what you lost and a bit on top for good measure ! Go on do it ! Haha today is the day !
glad it won for you. was bound to find a race formit from a top scottish combo. i just hhate it bcz i was on it before cairnzy tipped it. then i followed cairnzy for 80£ when that was a lot to me even tho i discounted it myself and it ran like a pig. cant back em all good pick
I got my fingers burnt last time as well but it ran a good race I thought so in my humble opinion today was the day but if not then like you next time it might not of bothered unless I could of pumped the odds up with a realistic fav . But it’s all ups and downs we all look silly more often than not but your playing for free money at the end of the day so it’s never going to be easy is it . Never mind onto 2 Moro – yeeeeehaaaaa!
Mon 2 jan 2023
No mor isolation 13:15 Ayr 20/1 e/w
It’s also running 2 Moro at Musselburgh at 1:00 that’s not the one I’m referring to
Although lockdown luke is running 2 Moro in the same race so might be worth siding with that one haha
Lock down luke second ! No mor isolation will place 2 Moro at good odds at the mo !
Deyran de carjac 1-55 Cheltenham
25-1 ew 6 places (HILLS)
12-1 bett365 ew extra 9 places.
Midnight river, il ridoto and deyran de carjac finished 3-4-5 in the recent paddy power here recently and only 2 lengths separated the trio.
Today their respective odds are 9-2 13-2 33-1.
Deyran de carjac today with the amateur driver carries just 9-11.
As midnight river and il ridoto are at the top of the betting this might offer more interest, especially the ew extra bet.
I think midnight river could well win but you can make a case for all of them, even 66-1 shot lostintranslation as 2 or 3 years ago (3rd in the 2020 gold cup here) it would have arguably been favourite for this.
If DC is on minella Indo 2-15 tramore then so will I, 15-8 for a horse that has finished 1st and 2nd in the last 2 gold cups looks generous.
He gets 8 pounds off odds on favourite stattler who is an improver but the distance could be too short for both horses.
Both are making season debuts so a danger is they are using this as a pipe opener with Cheltenham in mind ???
HDB only had 2 winners from last 36 runners Elvis something not quite right.
Indeed debs, sensible play is a watching brief as they say ✔️
Grumpy Charlie won on Saturday and another grumpy horse makes its debut on Sunday
Grumpy Rosie in the bumper.
Closely related to the stables mayhem mya who won her 2 opening bumper races in 2020/21.
Also with the claimer carries under 10 stone.
11-1 each way 3 places.
3-50 Exeter ⬆️⬆️⬆️
I like to move it. 4/1 . 2.30 Cheltenham.
Happy new year all and GL 👍
Maria’s Rock Cheltenham 2-30 3-1 money back if 2nd or 3rd
Botox Has same race each way
Good luck everyone and All the best
Happy Birthday to all racehorses 🐎
Ellis boyd redding 11.55 ew ga henty 12.10 ew merchant in milan 12.20 ew master oliver 12.25 harpers brook 1.20 ew. well done all winners yesterday
My one and only Cheltenham pick
14:30 Dashel drasher 17/2
My one and only Cheltenham pick
14:30 Dashel drasher 17/2
Decent run for the money !
coopers cross 1.35
2 for Cheltenham
1-20 Beauport 5-1 win and 11-8 top 2 finish.
2-30 knappers hill 5-1 win and 11-10 top 3 finish.
(Get better ew value on these backing win and ew separately)
Place double also 11-8 and 11-10
All at Billy hills.
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Already posted
Deyran de carjac 1-55 Cheltenham
25-1 ew 6 places (HILLS)
12-1 bet365 ew extra 9 places
Lostintranslation same race as above
66-1 ew 5 places
20-1 ew extra 9 places
Small stakes naturally
In case he decides to rediscover his old form
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Grumpy Rosie 3-50 Exeter
11-1 ew 3 places
Start my day with
11:55 Tramore – 2m Mdn Hrd
Silver Gazette
risking 370 to win 100 is not in most peoples minds, but i am telling you PAY THE PIPER does not win today and if you have any money capable of throwing on the lay, then full steam ahead. it really isn’t value but it is GUARANTEED.
both hughes and danny mac aren’t on, the horse has only ever won once over 2m, it was a C&D neck 2nd in Feb off a massive 5 higher which may scare some, but i am making a quick £200 off of this and I hope you all do too. quinland is 1-10 for here, pops up but don’t worry not basing this on jockey booking, good luck.
Hang over Hughes ! Ha
Spurs will prob lump 37p to win a quid haha
Pay the piper is 1-5 not to win at bet365.
That has to be the lowest price I’ve ever seen posted here.
Good luck and I hope it doesn’t win for the sake of your sanity data 🏇
it’s a lay at 3.7/1 on betfair. i know what it looks like but i also now it loses so posting it, bet responsibly and no harm done as always, money is money, rather act like a pro for one race than rely on the hobbyists fancies on here :D good luck if feeling brave.
Pay the piper is prone to jumping errors and has a big weight to lump around which is good news data.
Don’t see a standout winner here.
Gun to my head Cooper’s cross maybe ??
some be praying for a miracle i guess, if it wins i wont be showing my face again haha 8)
stolen silver 1.55
3-25 Tramore Shes some doll 5/1
LOVE THAT ride for skelton, horse fading, horses coming, he cuts them up knows what to do to give it every chance BOOOOOM.
lovely day on the stream so far, put 150 in now sitting on 550….. despite some scandalous decisions, all good fun come get involved.
this has been an absolutely embarrassing day for those that set the racing schedule.
so many races going off before the last one has finished, not even getting chance to have a bet let alone a proper look. yes you shouldn’t be betting every race, or betting wtihout a look, but come on missing so many races, it’s a bit of a joke, extra 2 mins on top of each not that hard is it, big shambles.
brewiupastorm 2.30 ew
2:51 Southwell – Win Win Power ***NAP***
3:20 Musselburgh – Benson **NB**
3:40 Cheltenham – Feryl Beryl *each way punt*
Well done elvis with minella Indo the weight made all the difference there . You were right ! You were right haha
elvis is low key embarrassing rizzle, gotta start picking different races
Don’t forget to lump all today’s winnings on benson ! Or my nap which is now 7/2 from. 7/1 or even the brave double haha
Data
And advising people to lump on a 1-5 shot?
This is an embarrassing new low for the thread ☹️
Not responding anymore data as I can see you are on the verge of another meltdown.
I’m off to feed my pet alligator, Dave, he’s looking a bit peckish in my garden pond ….
Well done with your Benson NAP dazzman, won easy didn’t it 🏇.
uhh it was a fancied horse backed into joint favourite, and i GUARANTEED it would lose, idk why you mention 1:5 it was 3.7/1 when i said to lay and only got shorter. was there value?? yes because it was GUARANTEED. if not for you move on.
rizzle is a charlatan, is this the place to say it?? no perhaps bot but as a paid tipster in this community he isnt infallible and deserves to be questioned, he wont even post his results which is embarrassing the thread deserve to know.
i bet almost every single race without stufy and turned 150 into 460 a regular occurrence, no mental breakdowns here but it is really
poor form picking on anyones mental state.
dolphin square 3.05 ew well done all winners today
🇺🇸 Santa Anita is off? 🤔
Wouldn’t imagine it be due to snow!
Gulfstream -R7…Infinite Diamond 7/1. Bet365 Nap/***. Trifecta 6- 9 -5
R8…Bemmas Boy 5/2. Nb/***
R9…General Jim 7/2.
Aquaduct- R7..Cousin Andrew 4/1
LS Gulf – R9 Eyes Of King 14/1 for a buck o five
GL and well done the winners today 👍
What a game of torment hahahaha that’s why we will all be back 2 Moro !
Beaten 3/4 of a length to a 28/1 shot haha
My New Years resolution is to be more serious !
Don’t forget no mor isolation 2moro at Ayr ! The horse is on the blue Gatorade as we speak haha
16/1 e/w
Also like fix at all 15:45 Ayr. Hang over Hughes is on the fav and we all knows what happens when Hughes is on the fav the rightly named fix at all will win this at a nice 4/1 still potentially a e/w shot to nothing by the skin of it’s teeth !!!
For those who like a short price nap
14:00 plumpton – doireanne 2/1 like benson 2moro is the day haha
17:26 south well – dark side prince 13/2