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NORWAY (3.05) played a prominent role in the Investec Derby before his early exertions took their toll and he’ll be much happier down in grade in the Queen’s Vase.
Aidan O’Brien saddles four runners, with Ryan Moore getting the leg-up on Norway. We saw yesterday with Circus Maximus that Derby form is often the most reliable pointer and Norway had earlier shaped like a stayer when hunting up Sir Dragonet in the Chester Vase (soft).
O’Brien has kept MAGICAL (3.40) busy through the opening weeks of the season and she wins a narrow vote in the Prince Of Wales’s Stakes.
His filly is still thriving judged on her most recent seven lengths thumping of stablemate Flag Of Honour in the Group 1 Tattersalls Gold Cup at the Curragh. She beat Coronet on her only previous visit to Ascot and ended last season on a high, running Enable close after a titanic tussle in the Breeders’ Cup Turf at Churchill Downs last November.
Sea Of Class is a most formidable rival if William Haggas has her cherry-ripe for this challenging examination. She would have caught Enable in another few strides in the Arc and beat Coronet with ease in the Darley Yorkshire Oaks, that victory coming on the back of her defeat of Forever Together in the Darley Irish Oaks.
This is a top-quality renewal, with Crystal Ocean and top French middle-distance challenger Waldgeist thrown into the mix along with improving Zabeel Prince. It doesn’t get much better than this.
The fillies take centre stage in the Duke Of Cambridge Stakes with Sir Michael Stoute doubly represented by favourite Rawdaa and Veracious. It doesn’t look a strong Group 2 and O’Brien’s I CAN FLY (4.20) boasts the best form if able to produce her neck second to Roaring Lion in the Queen Elizabeth II Stakes here last autumn (soft).
There is so much inter-linked form in the Royal Hunt Cup that unravelling spaghetti seemed an easier option when delving into this big-betting minefield. That said, it will be a disappointment if RAISING SAND (5.00) doesn’t figure as Jamie Osborne’s gelding rarely runs a poor race at Ascot.
A third to subsequent Queen Anne Stakes winner Accidental Agent (good to soft) a couple of seasons ago was followed by victory in the same race 12 months later (soft). Raising Sand returned from a 203-day absence to run fourth to Cape Byron here last month, beaten less than two lengths, and he can improve on last year’s seventh to Settle For Bay when unsuited by the slick track. Hopefully there will be plenty of pace down the stands’ side as Raising Sand is drawn in stall 32.
Mordin will be my other each-way bet. Runner-up to Wissahickon in the bet365 Cambridgeshire, Mordin fairly hosed up at Haydock (soft) on his return and didn’t handle the track/ground when fifth to Zaaki in the Group 3 Investec Diomed Stakes at Epsom.
COLD HARBOUR (5.55) has won two of his last three starts, both at Southwell, and sandwiched between was a solid third to Mark Johnston’s Just Wait on fast ground at Doncaster. Robyn Brisland has booked Paula Muir, who takes off 3lb in this 1m 4f apprentices’ handicap at Hamilton. Dew Pond took advantage of a falling mark to beat a modest bunch at Thirsk and is respected under his penalty, while Pammi takes a slight drop in grade.
HARVEY DENT (4.05) ran into an improving sort in Amadeus Grey at Carlisle eight days ago but compensation could be at hand. Archie Watson’s three-year-old had previously posted an encouraging Goodwood fourth behind Andrew Balding’s useful Wedding Blue and he is fancied to see off some serious opposition in the Class 4 mile handicap.
Southern Rock turned over 1-12 shot Al Hadeer over course and distance at the beginning of May and has been given a fairly hefty 78 rating by the assessor. Keith Dalgleish, fresh from his Carlisle four-timer on Monday, runs both Morticia and Jacob Black.
With Morticia making her seasonal return it may pay to concentrate on course winner Jacob Black, a scorer at Musselburgh last month before posting a fine third to Redama at Carlisle seven days later. Redama won again on Monday and Jacob Black is still well enough weighted to take a hand. Wild Hope was sent off favourite at Carlisle last time and his ninth place can be ignored as he was denied a clear passage. He has a fair bit to find with Harvey Dent on a line through Ramesses.
EESHA’S SMILE (3.30) won her first two races for Mark Johnston last season, at Beverley and Bath on quick ground, and paid the price with a fairly lofty handicap mark. She has slipped down the ratings and didn’t stay 1m 2f at Nottingham on her first start for Ivan Furtado. Eesha’s Smile likes to race prominently and drying ground will suit.
Ivory Charm won over course and distance with plenty up her sleeve and could be an improving filly for Richard Fahey. This is a higher grade contest. Front-running Ollivander held off all challengers at Beverley last time but finished three places behind My Boy Lewis at Carlisle on his previous start. My Boy Lewis is weighted to confirm those places.
Ascot
Place only and each way lucky 15s.
Smallish stakes as it’s typically impossible again today.
2-30 raffle prize top 5 at 3-1 (25-1 Ew).
4-20 pretty baby top 3 at 9-4 (9-1 Ew).
5-00 chief Ironside top 5 at 7-2 (25-1 Ew).
5-35 illusionist top 5 at 3-1 (28-1 Ew).
is your bookie being generous elvis or do you use a site which allows you to add extra places in the place market? bet365 is going me a flat 3 places for that RAFFLE race and since I like these bets for accas, perhaps I should be moving on if someone else offers something better…
365 offer up to 10 places on that race under E/W extra, 10/1 for that
i use 365 and that feature yes cheers mate, i just prefer a set in stone place price and was wondering whether any firms offer the 365 ‘ew extra’ on just placing, i.e. 9/2 to place top 3, 3/1 to place top 4, 15/8 top 2 etc.
Just a shame I didn’t back it
i missed the race busy studying, i will bet my life that is the only reason it won, if i was on, it’d have finished 16th and that I will guarantee.
Put these up last night at bottom of yesterday’s thread.
Betfair only quote day before, but only usually on 1-4 places.
On the day more generous place offers there, like has been said up to 10th !!.
Glad it won, can relax now and enjoy the viewing.
I hope you done the 25-1 elvis some shout! Database as well
Database?
elvis well done with raffle prize .And gl with the rest
Sadly missed it Charlie, a stonking shout indeed, was taking the 9/2 place all day long but had a profitable day so all good.
And Elvis.. I didn’t really understand your answer.. as it stands I presume place only prices are set it stone and no firms allow customisable odds similar to the EW extra 365 thing you mentioned.
Royal Ascot Day 2 e/w Canadian
3.05 – Western Australia 4/1
3.40- Crystal Ocean 9/2
4.20- Pretty Baby 15/2
5.00- New Graduate 11/2
5.35- Southern hills 8/1
Placed last night @Skybet Good luck all it Looks a tricky day
2.30 A Raffle Prize SKYBET MBS 2/3/4. Covering bet with PP E/W paying 5 places.
3.05 A Nate the Great E/W SKY paying 4
3.40 A Crystal Ocean
4.20 A Pretty Baby
5.00 A New Graduate Covering Bet SKY paying 7 Clon Coulis
5.35 A Temple of Heaven
Be Lucky
You little beauty RAFFLE, Frankie brings home the bacon.
Ditto coops.
Can relax now and enjoy the racing.
Voice of value tipped that as well as us so well done him also.
Good morning all
Pleased with profit on my 7/1 @ 12/1 places yesterday
Just one from me and my NAP of the week
3.40 Ascot Magical
GL all
Be lucky
3-40 Ascot Sea of Class 7/2 Nap/Nb
ez
Morning All .one winner yesterday just small profit on the day but better than a loss.
Looked a tough day for the thread at Ascot as suggested a minefield.As already mentioned above by a couple of regulars its the same again today .Great to watch and always enjoy but not the place for any decent bets.
UTTOXETER. not so easy here today either some open races tried find some value.
14.45. .Zoutoise. .13/2. .E/W
15.20. .Vancouver. .5/2
15.55. .Court Duty. .3/1
GL ALL
Of course it will be a minefield for you becuz you dont bet on flat racing i had a brilliant day with blue point and small ew profit on couer de lion. Follow the right people on here and you will do well and dont bet on every race!
Charlie . Confusing comment nothing to do with what I bet on just a very difficult meeting to follow form wise and betting wise as many on here have also stated.
cant see why you say you had a brilliant day as Couer De lion only finished fifth and you you did not mention any special bets and the price you quoted only reflected normal place positions (top 4).and 200 points come on thats dangerous advice to give people no tipster would ever do that. In fact true tipsters never mention amounts staked.
Can not see anywhere on thread where you tipped Blue Point hope you did bet it but can not suddenly claim it on here without putting it up.
But your right follow the right people on here gives you a chance and there are some decent guys here .
gl
no need to carry on this discussion boys, we aint gaining anything, you both have different opinions and that’s all good, now i gotta go study this competitive race meeting :D
Way to much to replay to there busstop2018 dont have time my main point is im not a tipster never said i was either matey!Just been putting bets on here to try get numbers up so place looks busy try get the likes of hibee1 back i have said this on here before i have lost bucket loads over the years since found this place im up a good sum makes a change for me matey! Feels good 👍🙏✌🤞🍾
Accumulator
113.37/1
1 line(s) at £5.00 per line
14:30 Royal Ascot – Place Only 5 Places
Final Song
15:05 Royal Ascot – Place Only 4 Places
Western Australia
15:40 Royal Ascot – Place Only 3 Places
Sea Of Class
16:20 Royal Ascot – Place Only 5 Places
Pretty Baby
17:00 Royal Ascot – Place Only 5 Places
Whats The Story
17:35 Royal Ascot – Place Only 5 Places
Iffraaz
Stake:
£5.00
Potential returns:
£571.84
My bet today new graduate 500 ascot that entry in a group 3 next month says what they think of this looked very good last run winning easy looks worth good bet today going ew at 6-1 100 points ew with skybet going 6 places again. Bet365 are 7-1 for on the nose punters
Sorry skybet are 7 places today not 6 🤞✌🙏👍
2:30 flaming spirit drifts to 50/1 EW
2:30 iksworth 10/1 EW
Magical 7/4
I can fly 4/1
Only bet so far today Circus Couture 33/1 ew 7 places 5.00.
3rd in the race last year off 106 and off 97 today. Has good form on soft or heavy so any rain will be in his favour. Should get a nice toe into the race from the likes of Cardsharp.
Well done to all the winners yesterday
BOL
hidden spell 1.50 lambeth walk 2.30 scuzeme 2.55 ratoute yutty 3.55 southern rock 4.05 well done all winners yesterday
S A Gray & Dalgleish teamed up for 4 winners from 6 rides at Carlisle on Monday. We definitely missed the boat, but they share 5 today at Hamilton.
445 – Three Castles 2/1 win – came from last to first to win in his 2nd hcap start, his slow starts wont be hurt by the slightly extra distance today and hopefully he can deal with a 6lb penalty in what looks a very winnable contest.
255 – Friendly Advice evens top 3 – a winner 2 starts back, then didnt perform up in class, back in class 5, he is upped a furlong but has decent C&D form from his debut last Winter, 3 places in a 7 horse race is perfect.
510U- MAX DO BRAZIL win 11/2 and WITHOUT sporting boy & very first time 11/4 NAP
A tricky race, Bryony always caught my eye even before she blew up and Sackett is definitely capable. SPORTING BOY 3/1 was very close to being selected for win purposes, he wears the silks for a trainer who has been on my radar a few times recently. Respected Nick Scholfield is also on (stepping off Day of Roses), we won LTO but revert to chasing off the same mark, I will add him to a few small accas but no decent single wager. The 5/4 for top 2 is just about acceptable given the Skelton horse has drifted massively (although I’ve seen a Skelton horse go from evens to 9/1 and still win this year). I have been put off because PIPE won the opener and has a horse in this, a comfortable winner on his chase debut, he is up 5lbs and the extra 2f seem to be his biggest obstacle. Also, the trainer has already beaten SB with another horse by over 10 lengths, so surely must think MDB has his number. .
820R – Moss Gill 11/8
winner LTO, up 2 classes but was tried there before and did well, runs off same mark and hopefully doesnt mind the soft going, which on the face of it, is our only concern.
nice win opening race for the voice of value
Cheers Elvis, Frankie completes the double. Well up now, mega bucks. Never relax, always looking for more hit the bookies hard.
Double for Frankie or double for you?
Well done winners so far
Another good myself with a 3/1 winner and a non runner nice bit of profit
going for a pint so Had a bet on the last 3 at Uttoxeter with some of the winnings
Darling Miss
Max Do Brazil
Ask Catkin
gl if you have any to run
2 from 2 . one to come guys and a 6/1 winner
Massive drift put me off the last. Got on in play, well done.
3 from 3 . 64/1 treble great day and 4 winners from 5 runners today.
onto tomorrow
GLALL
Cheers database. your right huge drift on the last one out to 9/2 but not complaining.
gl
I had a 30p e/w lucky 15 with only 1 winner which was raffle prize at 20/1 but should it not have doubled with only 1 winner? Does it not double if it’s e/w? Cheers
Betfreds in shop lucky 15 used to have one winner double odds clearly written on.
Not looked recently to be honest.
Would have thought they would offer it at ascot to attract customers.
Was that meant for me? If so yes, frankie and me tips are there. 2.30 and 3.40
Hello All !!
Today quite day at Ascot after the unlucky day , yesterday .
R. 5 – Raising Sand / Ew ….. show many good forms at the Ascot course , like also the ground today .
R. 6 – Platinium Star / Ew …… combo , Godolphin & French Jokey , Soumillion always
dangerous .
Chelmsford
R . 3 – Walk on Walter / Ew … today with Jokey , S. Donohoe !!
Gl All
symbolise 5.35 well done all winners today
Superb today bus stop.
You ought to go for a pint more often 🍻🍻