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WITH plenty of rain forecast at York, conditions should be ideal for ADDEYBB (3.15) in the Group 2 Sky Bet Stakes. If the heavens open soft ground specialist Addeybb definitely comes to the fore, especially given his impressive demolition job from a very wide draw in the Wolferton Stakes at Royal Ascot. The cheek-pieces which were worn for the first time that day are retained.
Elarqam, third in the Wolferton, was a beaten favourite in this race 12 months ago but cannot be dismissed in a contest tighter than the betting might suggest. Regal Reality has been installed favourite and is undoubtedly the class act. He thumped Matterhorn in the Brigadier Gerard Stakes at Sandown in May and produced a personal-best when third in the Coral-Eclipse behind Enable. That form gives Sir Michael Stoute’s colt the edge over Bangkok, a well-held second to Japan at Royal Ascot, but deep ground is a great leveller.
GET KNOTTED (2.05) can make a bold bid to scoop the handicap named in his honour as he seeks to land the race for the fourth consecutive year. He has dropped to an attractive mark and with a few showers expected, underfoot conditions should be ideal.
At Ascot, KIEFER (5.20) will take a deal of beating. The son of Derby winner Pour Moi is a dour stayer and he was strong at the finish when failing by a neck to reel in Desert Icon at Salisbury when last seen 80 days ago.
MOTAKHAYYEL (2.25) was given a canny ride by Chris Hayes to score with something in hand at Newmarket’s July meeting, charting a course up the centre of the track before edging over to the favoured stands’ rail. A 6lb penalty shouldn’t anchor his progress. Wings Of Time, another winner at the July fixture, rates a threat.
Keith Dalgleish has found a suitable opening for DARK LOCHNAGAR (5.35) at Chester. A winner on soft at Redcar as a juvenile, Dark Lochnagar ran a race full of promise at Hamilton last time and is nicely drawn in stall two.
In December 2020 we sadly 
With Thommo, on the first 2.
Addeybb 3.15 missed 10/3 Got 3’s.
2.05 Y Get Knotted 10/3
3.40 A Crystal Ocean 7/2. Century to win. Read info on yesterday’s thread. I think selection will stick it up the JOLLY. Bet of the day.
More in the morning, Be Lucky.
3.40 A I think there will be a massive shock in the big race tomorrow, already stated Enable will get turned over. Had small E/W cover bet on Salouen 80/1 worth £5. Defoe looks good at 20’s, better value than 4/6 worth few bob E/W.
Agree Defoe looks decent ew/place shout.
Enable hasn’t shown anything to suggest it will get beat by anything barring accidents or jockey error.
But like you say 4-6 is not clever for betting purposes, it’s a race to watch and enjoy for me.
It may be a head bobber at the death and the 3lb enable gets could be crucial.
I will cheer on crystal for you coops, let’s hope it’s a classic 😁
Paddy power got
Defoe top 3 at 9-4.
Defoe top 4 at 5-4
Crystal ocean without enable 10-11.
Only bet I’ve had so far is Larchmont lad 3-00 Ascot 40-1 Ew (7 places at hills)
Finished less than 2 lengths behind Limato last time over this distance
Morning all, hope we are all well. Cracking day’s racing on the box all over UK plus decent card from Gowran Park. Off to Sunny Chester, hence posting tips early.
Well done winners yesterday, I had another good day, 5/1 9/2 5/2 and 25/1 2nd. Onwards.
1.50 A Ultra Violet 7/1. MBS as cash SKYBET 2/3 £20 MAX. PP paying MBS £10 MAX as free bet on all losing bets if JOLLY wins.
2.25 A Motakhayyel 10/3. Flashcard being backed was 6’s last night into 4/1.
3.00 A Kaeso 14/1 E/W was 20’s, Vale of Kent 12/1 E/W. 2 against the field wide open Handicap anything can win. Most firms paying 6, Hills paying 7.
3.35 See above.
2.05 Y DITTO
2.40 Y Encrypted 10/1 E/W saver on Savalas 14/1. SKY paying 6.
3.15 Y See above.
Be Lucky enjoy the racing. Will post some Chester tips later.
Update on tips. 2 NR’S
1.50 a Dark Lady 8/1 Same T/C as above. MBS
2.40 y Tomily 9/1.
Best bets at Chester: Arletta Star 5/2 2.35. Angel Alexander 7/2 3.10. Lincoln Park 11/4 4.25. Punters latched on to this big time.
Be Lucky
Another 20/1 hit’s the frame. 2 nice bets at Chester romps home.
BET of the day.
3.40 A Enable 4/6 20K E/W can not lose plus very profitable backing it E/W.
anyone know if the rain have arrived at ascot
9mm over night and some forecast it says but just showers on and off it’s saying.
Enable to win by 1 length or more EVS,done in Willy Hills yesterday. 2/1 for 3.5 lengths with Skybet but it will lower the more that take the offer(small stake) and be having a Yankee as per.
Just watching open show in ITV before deciding.
Cracking days racing ahead 😊 🐎 👌
flying pursuit 6/1 york 2-40
rasing sand 7/1 ascot 3-00
get knotted 4/1 york 2-05
thanks for the update recoba
Scrapping the Skybet special on Enable at 2/1. Watching summer Romance win by 6l in a listed race last time out, 4/5 looks a great price and double with Enable at near 2/1 is what I’m going with as my Nb bet to go with Enable by a length+
Wee Yankee on..
Addeybb. 7/4(*)
Get Knotted. 10/3
Summer Romance. 4/(n double with Enable)
Motakhayyel…4/1
GL all.
Rains a pi$$er for a good but tough days racing
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Those odds for crystal ocean are quite incredible for those shrewd ew punters. At 7/2 you will only lose 15% of your stake if 2nd or 3rd and if 1st you’re laughing.
Alot of the smart punters will target this today. Great value there and enable’s odds don’t reflect the horse’s chance for me, only 20 days since it’s last run- and that being it’s season debut.
I do hope enable wins though as she is a real superstar.
Your tipping crystal oceon but want enabel to win? 🤔
I was simply making a point, i do not put “tips” on here, there is nothing for me to gain by it, i just enjoy reading other regular punters thoughts and try to chip in with a few pointers.
A well know tactic used by top gamblers is in races that look potentially between two runners and one is odds on and the other is anything from 9/4- 7/2 ish they will back the outsider ew and if it only places they will accept the smallish % loss in their stake and wait for another similar race.
I havn’t placed a bet on the race, for me it is a race to simply enjoy.
Fair point then and it does sound a good idea i will go ew on oceon. Cheers.
That’s a well known old strategy that is almost guaranteed mathematically to make profits long term as long as you are betting in the correct races . The downside is the bookies will close your account within a few bets .
if anybody interested betway are offering 40/1 for enable to win the king george for new customers that should be money for old rope
Max bet will be £1 surely. Still wurth it if you dont have acc wit them.
Just joined for it n no offer and there UK phone number doesn’t work? Sure you seen this I’ve Google it and looked and it’s only got Speculative and Enable double at 7/1??
Think I’ll just take my deposit back oot!
Max bet will be £1 surely. Still wurth it if you dont have acc wit themm.
well worth a pound of anyone’s money can’t get much with a pound these days eastand really so well worth a punt
5.30 ling Myklachi
3.55 newc Teodora de vega
5.25 York Triple distilled
I can not understand the logic of going E/W on a 7/2 shot. £10 E/W horse wins profit of £62
Horse is placed only £17 loss of £3.
Stick £20 on the nose returns of £90 £70 profit.
Simple really, been gambling 35 years never back nothing E/W unless Double Figures. Losing value, losing money. Anything over 6’s just about breaking even. Pointless punting, to be honest.
the logic has already been expressed above, the decision is whether you want to risk losing 15% of your stake for however much you stand to win if the horse does win… very simple and clear logic.
backing a say 12/1 shot comes with more risk, first it has to place which given the odds may be unlikely in itself, then it also has a very small chance of winning, so is probably more risky, at least the 7/2 returns most of your stake and specifically in this case, has a very very good chance of at least placing.
Ventura flame 2.00 kitcarina 2.35 rise hall 2.50 regal reality 3.15 artic nell 3.20 well done all winners yesterday
3.00 Ascot
Ripp orf ew
Firmament ew
Hills 7 places
Hi All !!
Again a nice Saturday with a lot of Races & King George .
Yankee / EW
R . 1 – Get Knotted .. York .. won this Race 3 times .. strong Jokey P. Mulrennan in the Saddle .
R, 2 – Rise Hall .. Newm .. no chance against the winner last time .. two times in Class 2 .. second .. today dropp in Class 3 .
R. 7 – Kiefer .. Ascot .. run a strong Race last time against .. a very strong horse .. at Salisbury .. jokey C. Bishop ride him always .
R. 3 – Silk Cravat .. G Park .. money come on it .. 2nd & 3rd .. under Jokey who ride it today .
Notebook Horse / Win
R. 2 – Newc .. Honest Albert
R. 4 – Newm .. Swindler
G. Luck All & Nice day !!
honest albert pulled out last week, horses who are pulled out and put in within a few days probably have the best track record of recording wins ever.. just like TEXTING last night to name but 1 in an endless amount. BOL with rise hall, tricky old race hoping CARADOC wins myself :D
Only Risk was the Jokey , but when you see her ride on Steel Helmet one race later , she can ride , but I ‘m sure next run with a strong Jokey , Honest Albert will win .
What Logic, 7/2 E/W 10 quid your losing 3 quid. No logic there?
Time to pack up gambling I thinks. I bet the bookie is clamping his hands and grinning like ‘cheshire cat’. I lay that bet, £10 E/W 7/2 horse placed and still bookie walks away winning. Mind boggles.
Stick a century on 7/2 pays you £450 profit of £350. Do or die me, losing no value bid WEDGE not penny’s.
Mind you, always been the same. Go big, win big.
the point has been explained enough to you already, if you still dont get it, no need to make insults just because your brain can’t comprehend it. you type as if English isn’t your first language so fix your own problems before throwing stones.
Whether of not you agree with it is irrelevant it is mathematically the correct bet . Acceptable loss (3 ) to possible profit (42) turns a 7/2 to a 14/1 .
Just in my opinion its the wrong type of race anyway. Crystal ocean could easily be out of the frame . Frankie rode him last time so knows how to get him beat , three of obriens will run interference for van dyck and defoe will come late . Enable wins , why would you want her to lose
I was a bookmaker in the ’60s and early ’70s and we were never grinning in any way at the savvy punters who would bet this way. I know a few punters who set themselves for life with this strategy back then.
As rog mentioned earlier to gamble like this on a regular basis now a days on line, would result in your account being closed i am sure.
Shamshon 5-10 Newmarket 9-4 NAP.
Kiefer 5-20 Ascot 11-4 NB.
Larchmont lad 3-00 Ascot 40-1 Ew ( 7 places) hills.
your nap on paper is a banging shout
Too right it was database 😁
Cheers!
Cheers Elvis.
yes recoba came into my email box from the racing post this morning for new betway customers
Dunno then mate?
Thanks William hill
£10 ew (paying 7 places) on Larchmont lad 40-1 pays £90.
It finished 7th, lol
Very rare I get any return from a 7th place 😁
nice one elvis
type in enable sat free betway recoba in google and it should be the fourth one down u not much time though mate
rasing sand saves the day 7/1
now all on van dyck i think he is a great ew bet
See you profited also on the 23 runner stampede plugster😁.
Great pick bud 🏇
5th one down sorry
what a horse
Super Horse a joy to watch ENABLE
What I said earlier
‘It may be a head bobber at the death and the 3lb enable gets could be crucial’.
Think I was right, what do you guys reckon ?
Would she have won off level weight ?.
I have said often here in championship races horses shouldn’t run with an age/sex allowance, it’s clearly not a level playing field.
It’s like Serena Williams playing Roger Federer, with Federer wearing wellies, lol
Ha i think enabel might be one of those horse that will just always find that bit more no matter what.
Dunno Crystal Ocean is stripped fitter so give Enable another run and she beat him by more I’d say but ye weight prob helped today.
As for yer tennis thing come on too France it’s 4lb not 2 stone n Federer still win in wellies! ;)
Beest horse in world .. fact!
I’ve a $7.50 Trixie with Stradivarius n Too Darn Hot so it’s “Come on Dettor!”
What a race, cracking finish.
Amazing how certain posts go missing again MR F?
Can I have your email please MR F, you can explain to me then. Why certain posts are removed, and why
certain insulting posts remain.
It’s not a children’s playground that’s why. Admin’s email address is on the home page if you want to contact them.
Right there Elvis, the 3lb made all the ‘diff’.
Ignore it mate, it’s the same guy with three accounts talking to himself. It’s very sad no point of reacting
My plan was to put €40 on enabel but went with €20 ew bet on oceon returned €34 anyone would think i would be disapaointed i actually feel that was still the right bet. My gambling sttatedgy has changed for the good i think so cheers to everyone
I know it’s not a KIDS playground MR F I respect that. Other’s don’t, but someone talks to me like a piece of crap not going to take it.
But you remove my post, so I can’t defend myself. Amazing thou, you leave post that insults people.
Both posts were removed.
Well in there elvis wit shamsoon i got 2-1!
👍👍
Coop and database.
I respect both of you as both are knowledgeable and a plus for the thread in that respect.
I can chat with both of you, but you bounce off each other.
You really have to be man enough to say your piece and accept the others opinion even if it doesn’t match your own.
Some nonsense posted here, bad spelling ?, What’s that got to do with racing and chat.
The thread has been reignited to some degree recently and both your inputs have been welcome, so please don’t drive each other away and try not to bite so much.
We all have different strategies, different staking plans, but one general aim (to beat the bookie).
Let’s move on – if you want to contact each other directly then do so but stop fighting on here please.
Well said.
Aye Elvis no need for it. T
Ta for your Nap only Enable for me but couldn’t get the length+ for the glory. Be on her for Juddmonte,Arc an Breeders Cup,can’t get bookies to take a treble or Trixie?
Think like last year she clean up and already had better preparation…also no Sea of Class which is a terrible shame.
Onwards…
What a bad ride on Kiefer in the last at Ascot : – (
!! Enable !! really a wonder Horse , Crystal Ocean show the high Class in a thriller finish .
See you tomorrow & Nice Evening !!
keifer let me down for 700 from less than a tenner :D well in with your winner/s
hurling in play Limerick 13/8 to win
Hurling what ?
Only 2 horses have ever beat enable, both in same race.
Shutter speed from same yard won, but the 2nd, raheen house trained by Brian meehan ??. Never heard of him before, but got small claim to fame.
raheen house was mentioned here a couple of weeks ago, would’ve most likely won but for old jamie spencer’s ride, think money tipped it… and you’ve never heard of old B J MEEHHAN?? pom tipped up his horse DOMINUS recently, i am good with trainer names but imporant races which have actual names juddemonte.. the lincoln etc.. am absolutely clueless, also have no idea about important races which are trials for big races.. got into racing a bit too late to indulge in that side of things.
Well done everyone today 👍
Spent the day on a&e with the daughter so never got to see the racing today . Just watched Enable on the replay was amazing to have that bad of a trip and still get her head in front .
What do you think though? Just worried she was pushed abit much don’t think she will run till the arch having the breeders at the end of the season .
Best wishes for your daughter.
Also watch the final furlong pom and see how waldgeist was closing in 3rd, the rest nowhere.
Another 1/2 furlong he would have been bang there, a leger horse maybe ?
Hope she’s OK.
Cheers mate, she’s fine now :) . Dislocated her elbow playing . Going to put years on me .
Cheers mr f . 👍
No wrong there Elvis has been a great horse for Fabre, just think further is needed doesn’t seem to have the finishing kick. Breeding suggests 2 miles would be the maximum trip .
The problem again the O ‘Brien runners , with a strong pace like in the Irish derby , not sure if the pace was for A v Dyck , because he was never in the race , Frankie showing again who is the best , he have a perfect feeling for the tempo in a race , always a good position and he can ride horses from the front like Starcatcher at Irish Oaks and Enable from the back today , it was perfect ride from J Doyle at the end , but when you looking exactly the race he looking always where is Enable and start his ride , if Enable was beside him , but Frankie only ride with the hands at the end , for me the better Jokey won this race .
Big target was the Arc always for Enable , if she wins again , I’m not sure she run in the Breeders Cup again .
14:00 Uttoxeter DA DOU RON RON 10/11 1pts win
Infiniti loses a 5lb claimer although the two horses he split last time have I suppose, boosted the form. It isn’t nearly enough for me but he may well be capable of placing once again. Rococo Style won lto and is up 5lbs, he wouldn’t mind a little rain and if I do utilise the place market, he will probably be the one. The selection is a huge fav price wise, he must carry a 7lb penalty but the manor of DA DOU RON RON’s win 2 days ago over the same C&D means he can’t be ignored. He made every yard and bolted 12 lengths clear at the finish. The price is short but for good reason. I’ve seen too much go wrong in racing so 1pt is sufficient.
16:10 Uttoxeter – SIR ROBBIE 11/4 1pt win
SIR ROBBIE has won 3 of his last 4 races, finishing 2nd in the other. The 3 wins were all at this venue over the same trip. He has been raised 6lbs but drops down a class. The 2nd and 3rd from his last race had both won their previous starts whilst the 4th has came 1st and 2nd since. He beat today’s rival THEATREBAR by 2 lengths last time and is only 3lbs worse off, however he will be carrying 18lbs less which hopefully should aide our cause. All of his form is on good ground so the rain may be our biggest threat but with the stable jockey taking over from Bryony Frost, I am hopeful he hasn’t hit his ceiling just yet.
15:00 Uttoxeter HAUL AWAY 10/3 0.50pts win
My most chancy selection is one of red hot Nicky Henderson’s. He sends two to Uttoxeter with stable jockey NDB back on board our selection. It is his chasing bow but given the trainer has won 4 of his last 5 races, we can be hopeful HAUL AWAY will give us a run for our money.
It is the first time the horse will run over the larger obstacles but he was 4-9 over hurdles. His last 4 races have been in a higher grade and is only 2lb above his last winning mark, that was with cut in the ground and with rain expected, our chances should improve with every drop. The trainer won this last year which is another added bonus whilst Seven De Baune is another who’ll appreciate soft going and is from a yard who have had two winners today.
+20.09 since July 13th
Cracking little meeting at Uttoxeter tomorrow 7 races all with betting interest bar the one [16.45]. Odered early brekkie in my Hotel catch the 09.35 train into Crewe then catch connecting train to Uttoxeter.
2.00 U Rococo Style 12/1 EW. Dariya 16/1 E/W. 2 against the field SKYBET paying 5. Wide open race, 16 runners, these 2 selections will give the short price JOLLY a good run for the money.
3.35 U Court Duty 15/2
4.10 U Sir Robbie 9/4.
Be busy travelling in morning, hopefullly find some time in morning to log in.
Be Lucky
Leave uttoxeter station, turn right an walk past Tesco etc on the right, turn right, right again and you enter the industrial estate, cafe immediately on your left does a smashing all day brekkie.
It’s called stans cafe, always go there when I visit uttoxeter.
Also there tomorrow, best of luck!
emailed you twice and no reply so far btw :D