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Well done to those of you that have been keeping the Horse Racing thread alive despite there being little to get excited about.
The number of comments there are getting a bit lengthy so I've been asked to start a new thread to tidy things up so here goes.
Racing in Australia and New Zealand coninues as do meetings in North America where there's racing from Fonner Park, Nebraska and Will Rogers Downs in Oklahoma today. Let us know if you have any fancies in the comments below.
The biggest is on Sunday where it's Champions Day at Sha Tin in Hong Kong. Three Group One races dominate the card; Queen Elizabeth II Cup, Champions Mile and the Chairman's Sprint Prize. With the help of our friends at Bet365 here's a a look at the key races.
Queen Elizabeth II Cup (Sun 26 April)
Former Champion Thoroughbred jockey Tony Cruz will be aiming for his third winner in five years with three-time Group 1 winner Exultant, who looks set to go off as a short-priced favourite (currently 11/4 Bet365).
Cruz also has Furore (7/2 Bet365), winner of last year’s Hong Kong derby, in the race and will fancy his chances of with the two main contenders.
Champions Mile (Sun 26 April)
Beauty Generation (4/5 Bet365) is aiming to make it three Champions Mile wins on the spin for Zac Purton and John Moore. He is Hong Kong’s highest-ever rated horse and was crowned one of the best in world following a 10-in-a-row winning streak back in October.
His bulletproof form was punctured with a shock defeat to High Rise in the Group Two Oriental Watch Sha Tin Trophy but there are still plenty of targets for his owners, the Kwok family, to aim for.
With that defeat well and truly behind him he looks set for another shot at glory on Sunday.
Chairman’s Sprint Prize (Sun 26 April)
Aussie trainer John Size goes for three-in-a-row in the Chairman's Sprint Prize on Sunday with current joint favourite (and Denman gelding) Hot King Prawn (7/4 Bet365).
Last year's race was won by Size's Beat the Clock but he misses out this time round through injury so his hopes are pinned on Hot King Prawn to land the HK$16,000,000 (£1.67m) prize.
John Moore's Athero shares favouritsim at present and he hasn't been shy about his chances. If he lives up to the hype he could be Hong Kong's next big thing.
Cheers & Prayers 20:15 will rogers downs i backed this horse at 9/1 last night but the best price available is 5s now unfortunately.one bit of advice if you are backing horses in america u need to get on as early as possible before the us price invariably crashes once the big players get involved stateside.
Nice winner. I got it at 11/4. WD.
Good shout if you got on at 9/1
+16.8
Sorry guys put the winner tonight in the other thread
Sorry for filling the other thread mr f stuck at home doing nothing thought I’d put myself and spread sheets to god use for you 🍻
Canterbury races Australia
3:50 am
Kiku 3/2 2pt win
Canterbury
Race 2 4:25am
Achiever 2/1 1pt win
Race 4 5:25
Flinders 11/10 2pt win
Race 5 6:10
Cappamore 10/1 0.5 ew
Race 8
7:55 beach baby 11/4 1pt win
Had my ass kicked in oz . Lovely track though
Cheers guys like i said in my original post it pays to get on as early as possible in the states as i backed the selection at 9s & it went off as 5/2 fav in the end anyway one for tampa bay tmrw 19:00 Stack Shack 13/1 (boosted price at ladbrokes).
15:50 happy Valley
Larson 5/2 1pt win
Pipped on the line 😕 I’ll be back Saturday for the racing take it easy stay safe 👊🏻
Apparently french racing plans to resume on may 11 behind closed doors which is something I suppose.
Also uk are trying to get up and running sometime in may.
Plans are for a maximum of 12 runners per race, with just the jockey, trainer and one lad allowed per horse, no spectators allowed.
But there will be more races on race days.
Also they suggest lower grade races will be few and far between which is another nail in the coffin for the small yards.
Don’t know why this is, maybe it’s to allow the big stables a chance to ready horses for the proposed royal Ascot behind closed doors.
How many foreign horses will there be at ascot ?, Can’t see them being allowed here in June, might not be any air lines left in the air the way things are right now.
If they are not here, ascot winners can’t call themselves championship winners with just UK horses taking part??.
There is no more info regarding where and when races will take place but it will be under strict social distancing.
Crumbs of comfort and maybe a chink of light at the end of the tunnel.
I’d say 100% American and Australian and Japanese horse will be allowed to travel most big spenders will bring in on private airways . There will probably be some sort of screening process to allow them and I’d make most of the foreign horses favs .
Friday.
21-46 Gulfstream apogee 16-1 each way.
Sha tin selections for Sunday .
I don’t have prices but I wanted to get a write up today.
Uncle Poms Selections
Lake shore eagle
Has proved he’s a better miler than a 7f horse and has that finishing gear you need around here , he’s not the easiest of rides and will need to be pushed all the way around but gets the vote here.
Athero
Is a horse with buckets of ability and exploits the bottom weight here. Personally I think he needed the prep run last time. If he gets a good kick at the start it will be all over, but his breaking ability has been a problem in the past.
Rhapsody
Comes in here as the magic mans ride from a stable known for first time out winners, his barrier trials have been impressive and I think he leads pillar to post.
1pt ew reverse Forecast
1st exulant 2nd time warp
Exulant had his price hammered into 1-2 but he’s the class.
For inight he used to be called irishcorerspondent in Ireland and was 3rd in the 2000g’s behind thunder snow .
He was beaten last time out by time warp (stable companion ) who will have the race all his own way again because there is no speed horse in the race.
Wellington is the nap , up 10lb from before. I think this is an easier race then before in terms of opposition. But it is a lot more weight and I’m hoping class carries him through.
Beauty generation will be all the rage Sunday but I still think Waikuku could still cause the biggest problem . I just wonder if the old guy has to big races in him. Waikuku didn’t figure last time but again has had two class 1 wins. And could be just a tired horse . And I make Kai Ying star fav here but It’s one I’m staying clear of, but best of luck to anyone that’s bet.
Mate this exact same write up barring a few words tweaked is on twitter it has been up since thursday. Guessing that must be you? RHR?? Or someone is pinching your stuff
Not me must be stolen
I don’t use twitter sorrry
Rhapsody 8/1 0.5 ew
Lakeshore eagle 6/1 1 pt win
Aethero 3/2 2pt win
Wellington 4/5 3pt win
And 1pt ew reverse forecast
For time warp and exulant
Things didn’t go to plan at sha tin but lakeshore eagle at 6/1 saves an embarrassing day went out to 9/1 so we’ll done if you had that .
Beauty generation turned over as I thought but not they way I imagined.
Lakeshore Eagle @ 9/1, thanks Pom.
Looking forward to see Aethero now.
Nice to have the one winner apologise for the others .
20:45 will Rogers downs
Uncail 21/1 0.5 ew
Sorry 12/1
Unbelievably I was just about to post the same horse pom.
11-4 top 3 finish at Boyle sports.
It’s 20-1 at bet365 and 12-1 elsewhere.
Let’s hope we get a return from this pom
Yes it popped up in my tracker but my daughters been unwell so forgot to press post comment earlier when it was 21/1
Also on.
Yield 15-2 each way (
Ran no sort of race there
Yield 22-45 will Rogers 15-2 each way ( without blue moonrise).
Uncail price dropping now on bet365.
20, 16, 14 now 12-1.
🌈 Give your daughter a big hug from me pom 🌈
👊🏻
Lindante in the next 🤞
And Thorpe d oro ew
Well done
Ew extra online now for the 20-45.
A bit more on uncail 11-1 for 5 places
Thanks unc pom
Well done spursy laah 👍
Number 11 in the next and number 2 ew
Landry Kyle 9-15 11-4
Well done again spursy laah 👍.
Got Wednesday’s lotto numbers by any chance have you 😀
Thanks Elvis
Bol
21:45 smoke n policy 4/1 1pt win
Thats for me tonight.
Was a good race but came far of the pace but started his race to late
Number 3 for me pom
Number 7 is worrying me now !!!
Thanks again Elvis
I only go by number sequence 🤞🤞🤞
Try 1 more number 7 next race🤞
Lazzarella ew
just seen this maybe nothing FLIRTY @ will rogers next race
sky bet 25/1 🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
nite nite
DC hero 9-30 will Rogers 25-1 Ew.
Will wait for Ew extra market for extra place markets.
NON RUNNER 😬
+3.8
Tampa
19:15
The runaway rocket 3/1 1pt win
Sorry will Rogers
With you on that one uncle Pom
Bol
2nd again didn’t get the gate break I wanted and prolly used up to much energy getting to the front
on we go
Sorry mate 2nditus atm
Daring Artax in the next
Happy valley tomorrow morning so I’ll have selections and write up for you all later tonight 👊🏻
Good luck in the next Spurs has a long lay off to overcome . Should be there at finish if full wound up.
🤞🤞👍
yeah that was my concern uncle
i was looking at the happy valley meeting earlier.
always seems a mine field at that course (more than normal i should say)
massive priced winners the last 2/3 weeks. (GREAT IF YOU CAN PICK A COUPLE THOUGH)
bol
no worries
try number 3 in the next as well ew
bol
Nice thanks
your welcome shiver 7
bol
1 minute to the start.
Daring artax to be placed 7-4 bet365
will rogers is not bloody easy either !!!
VISCOSITY
(3 – 6 – 2 – 5 – 6)
no 8
now this one is a worry!!
oh well got one of them
on we go
out on a limb now !!
next 3 races
numbers 4.11.1
or 4.11.2
purely from number sequence. NOT my knowledge!! just for interest.
2 up 1 more please 👍✔🤞
November mike in the next 3/2 1pt win
Needs to break
Went 4 last race.going 4 again in the next 🤞
mighty vision 22.15 blameitonbecket 21.45 vangilder 21.45
22.45 vangilder
Going with that number 5 Azz in the next
Bol
Sha tin
Race1
Gala knight 11/2 1pt win
He has that turn of foot that I talk about before although he didn’t win last time he has a better gate today and is weighted to reverse place with
Good days.
Giant turtle . 10/1 0.5ew was hoping for a bigger price but today they have realised that he is Best suited to this grade .
Race 3 focus 9/2 2pt win
Win well last time at his first step up to a mile , the race wasn’t run to suit as he used up a lot of energy in the first leg of the race getting a good position . He gets a better gate today so the increase in weight won’t cause an issue.
Race 5
Sky show 4/1 1pt win
Win atrial race in good fashion before his last race where he was in my opinion not pushed out and just given a schooling lesson. Trainers found a good opportunity for him today.
Race 6
Flash famous 2/1 2pt win
Was drawn wide last time out but had that finishing speed to grab second after coming from midfield he draws 2 today and the magic man will make good use of it .
Race 8
Cinquante cinq 3/1 1pt win
Purton can win this race, his mount runs of top weight but he’s actually lighter then his last run he would of been a lot closer last run but got his run checked and didn’t get the run of the race
Good going Uncle Pom
Bol
Cheers shame about focus used to early and was a sitting duck
+3.5 Pts on day few seconds in there that could have made it a great day onwards
First ive looked in for weeks,didnt think anyone would be putting tips etc up ive just been battering in myself with the US racing with varying degress of success.
Last night was one of the better ones with 2/4 in a yankee(real unlucky not 4/4)but also had a decent single on Whiskey Factor at 11/10 which won nicely.
Also had Hidden Legend at Sandown R4 this morning in Oz at 4/1 which was from my tracker,it had finished an unlucky 2nd last 2 starts and was due a win.
IF only id knew you guys were still at it as i only put a few mates on WhatsApp group on to it so really glad it won while i slept.
I should have known as i forgot Pom likes US racing like myself
Looking forward to Happy Valley today…took a guys NAP of Focus in the 12.45 last night at 9/2 and ive a Yankee on with Sky Show,Super Alliance and Flash Focus that are in the races after the NAP. Nothing major money wise….$14.50 spent which includes my beers as im going to lay about in my underwear scratching myself with a cold one with the racing on as im a bloody bloke! 😊
Nowt else for it!
Good power happy luck to use!
Ive got a lot of time on my hands at the moment mate , thought I’d put it to good use and try to keep the thread alive.
Personally I like all racing from around the world think I’ve tipped up British Irish french American south African Australian and even Indian winners on here so needless to say I try 👊🏻
In the last jumbo happiness 16/1 0.5 ew
I hoping the go he’ll for leather up front and he can pick up the pieces .
great minds think alike uncle pom got 20s last night
so got 3,4,12 in the last 🤞
WELL DONE POM I DID E/W DOUBLES & TREBLES ANYTHING FOR TONIGHT
Sorry nothing for tonight , misses is still working so I have the kids at home and daughters unwell so I’ll have a look at races more in the future just so I’m not putting up rubbish.
Gives me a chance to do write ups as well, just so people can see why I choose them.
Good luck if betting tonight 👊🏻
did wonder when the big prices were going to come in !!!
last race going on 2 bigger prices number 12 and 4 ew
bol
Good luck mate 🍻
cheers unc
33-1 saw that coming last race and all !!
Pity didn’t have more on it
Seems quite common these big prices at happy valley and sha tin
On to tonight
Going to start with number 3 And 9 first race tampa 🤞
Pity didn’t have BOG on that 33-1
Only paid at 16☹️
29/4/20
7.00 Tampa
Passing Out GL
well done sir
bol
solar kitten ew
solar kitten ew
SHAKEM N BREAKEM
(4 – 5 – 1 – 3 – 2)
next @ tampa ew
👍 and you
SHARPERTHANME
tampa paying 4 places
9 next race
6 in next
Kentucky derby September 2020
Charlatan 6/1 3pt win
The reason I have put this up now is because Charlatan runs on Saturday 2nd May in the First Div Arkansas Derby. I was hoping BB would carry on in little races and not fully expose him to the public so I could get a better price . But once he nails this field he will go fav above Tiz the Law
Saturday 2nd May 2pt Double
Fist Div Arkansas Derby Charlatan 4/7
Sunday 3rd May Second Div Nadal 5/4
For Context this group 1 gets split into two group, unfortunately the top two horses have drawn different DIV which means Charlatans price is short, and Bob B is double handed and can take both races
The Tenno Sho ( or Emperors Races) Sunday 3rd May
Runs In Japan and if you have never seen it, Its a great watch. The 2019 Spring winner Fierement 15/8 2pt Win Is the Fav here and doesn’t have to deal with anything of the same quality he is a firm stayer up theses hills and will be hard to beat.
SA Derby is also on Saturday 2nd May Where Russian Camelot 2/1 2pt win (sire Camelot (IRE)) . He bids to give Sire Camelot his first Grp1 Winner. Unfortunately last week he was found to have a bad throat and was pulled out. That’s the reason you can get 2/1 now. He’s Set to trail run this Friday over 800m at Flemington and once people see hes fine we will lose the 2/1 so I’m taking it now
Can we start a new thread mrF please?
If I can find something to write about – you have to remember none of our racing tipsters are working just now so it’s not easy.
I can do it mr F ? If your struggling? Don’t need to pay me I can just help out?
I ain’t a racing man and I’m also still working normally at the Record so if I get time over the weekend I’ll do it.
There’s not much to bet on so our racing guys are happy to be stood down for now.
Your offer is generous but at the moment we just have to go with what we have.
start tonight with number 9 in the next 🤞
Or better yet if you need to give money in exchange for work etc can donate it to a horse racing charity I know? Just a thought
my bar lollipop 7.35 yup let Pom and the others do it they seem well up on the USA racing between um mr f
sure they can all do it between themselfs marvellousness idea that is
Thanks guys
7 next
7 and 9 ew next race
5 next
Gulfstream 22:19
Our closure 12/1 1pt win
Down to 5/1. Now
20:45 Gulfstream
Coin the phrase 3/2 1pt win
Gloriously
Last one
Number 1 next race
Last one
Number 1 next race
Tampa 19:24
Buffalo max 4/1 2or win
Lion Charmer next at tampa ew
🤞
4 Gulf Stream ew
7
hopefully 3 on the bounce !!
ie
7 tampa
7 gulfstream
😒
6 next
ew
on interest in a patent azz bol
interest arrives 7.09 buffalo max 7.24 bip bip full power 7.41 starship taxi 8.15
on buffalo max already but do like o danny boy
little ew
bloody L
🤣
25/1 took it
All of us on buffalo max? Haha 😂👊🏻
all aboard the buffalo train well done chaps
🍻
Remember guys the tracks have swapped tonight 🤙🏻
🍻
Gulfstream going down see the pyramids 5/2 0.5 win
🍻
19:56 merengue 3/1 0.5 win
Will have to pillar to post it here to win back up in grade
Barry Faulkner’s is doing pretty good tonight ✔
20:27 marmalade 7/2 1pt win
on it uncle pom
good luck
Put some marmalade on those buffalo wings 👍
Nice one with Buffalo Max guys
Then be up late watching charlatan and Nadal at oaklands park
+12.2 from tonight guys 🍻👊🏻 Pays for the ante posts I put up for tonight and tomorrow
Sorry tomorrow and Sunday been stuck at home so long I lost a day haha!
Toro toro that I tipped up last time runs at Randwick tomorrow morning at 3:50am not going to get the 9/2 this time buts he’s 15/8 and worth the 2pt win 🍻
Points so far +14.5pts
Phoenix Thoroughbreds haven’t been shy in buying up good horses in America and have Inis Gluaire running tonight at Oakwood first race 3/1 1pt win
* Oak lawn park
Sorry phone keeps pre texting
Pom, the SA Derby isn’t on until Saturday 9th May
Tried 3 times to post same as lat night Mr F?
Hope use see this n can help,try s shorter postno write up.
Or’effice 4/5 (Skybet price boost) NAP *****
Race 11 Gulfstream South Bend 20/80 5/1 and 6/4 with Skybet GL
Only small posts working for me?? Taos won at 11/10 last night for me to get me off to a good stsrt with Sky price boost so hopefully sane tonight. Or’effice class horse by some way. Post super Yankee ounce i make my final decisions from 7 imnlooking at without the NAP.
GL all
Grrr…something not right with the favourite there.
Onwards
Evountate in R9 at Gulf 5/2 n Mr Freeze at Oakland R11 now 3/2 look my Nb n Nnb.
Just go a Yankee…
Gulf R5…Positive Phil 3\1
R7…Evounate. 9/4(****)
Oakland Park R9….Caribbean. 7/2
R 11…Mr Freeze…3\1(***)
GL all a good nights racing ahead n they’ll keep me occupied tonight away from Saturday night TV as it’s pi$h¡
Missed the off on Bank at 11/8 Oakland only for to win by a nostrel as it was one i chucked out my picks earlier but went with Lorloupies st Gulf whivh was another,chasing it a touch but it wins well again n nice drift. Thank fook!
Mon e Yankee!
turn of events 5.45 publicist 5.55 miss imperial 6.00 gran causaway 6.15
Coach Temple
J: Victor Lebron
T: Saffie A. Joseph, Jr.
Age: 3
Weight: 8-8
try this for starters tonight
9.53 Gulfstream Highland Glory 3/1
rag tag next race
Smitten For Smitty
next gulfstream
The Bob Baffert duo done it tonight for the short price double +3.4 for it 👊🏻
Charlatan n Nadal double was worth waiting up fkr. 👍
Fierement for the win as well 👍🍻
+18.6
1st at Tampa agripino 8/1 0.5 win
Thought we had the perfect ride there but nutted on the line
Tampa 19:42
Power walker 2/1 2pt win
appraised 6.45
No 6 tampa next race
1 from 4 at Sha Tin so ZERO return after a good Saturday night as well.
I didn’t bother last night after staying up to watch Nadal at 1,30am in US n back up to watch the 6.30am at Sha Tin i was Sha Terred after sitting in the sun so it was an early night.
Sky free bet on the following Suoer Yankee tonight n my own cash on a couple of singles.
Fonner Park R3.,,Zippy Too 6/4(***)
R4…Sleepy Turtle 3/1
Gulf R6…Bug Zapper 6/4
R9…Potomac 3/1
R10…Eurobani 3/1 (****) 7/4 Skybet?
Won by 7l 2nd last time out,its from my tracker,i left him on it even though he dissapointed in higher grade last run ill forgive it.
GL all 👍
R V T Thunder Road little ew
🤞
Will Rogers 23:25 Irish spirit 9/4 1pt win
Sorry 23:15
Getting a bit fed up of being nutted on the line
Yeah it was unkucky mate.i watched it then couldn’t stay awake for Eurobani in the last which won nicely again,2x singles and 3/5 so it was a good night.
Got Nocturnal Mission off my tracker in 11.15 Will Rodgers. Won by 11l lto and is up a bit in class but won so easily last time i think he wiil make a winning start with his new stable, 5/4 Skybet price boost aint great but it will be my NAP.
Cheers and Prayers is another from my tracker and i seen it was tipped on here away back at the start of the thread,it was a 13/2 winner for me lto,first up in a yankee only for my next 3 to be nowhere so ultimatly i won nothing back for it…was a bit peeved i hate when that happens its a waste of a good pick. Goes in R4 at 20/1 so its well up in class but just a heads up if folk fancy it again maybe Ew atca big price. I fancy tge Fav Wise Cat though.
Will Rodgers Downs Yankee…
R2…Break at Dawn(***) 5/1
R3…Word to the Wise 5/2
R5…Wise Cat 11/8
R9…Nocturnal Mission (****) 6/5
Gl yoll!!
well done recoba
19:45 will Rogers
Break at dawn 5/1 2pt win
well done pom
cheers 🍻
Afternoon all hope everyone still sane & keeping well gunna try these
R1 she’s eastbound 13-2
R2 sheza hot flash 14-1
R5 chatterman 14-1
R6 Lilly belle 16-1
R9 ketara 11-1
R10 kiss him goodbye 25-1
Ew singles & ew lucky63 ☘️Gl all
Nice to see you back good luck 🍻
Cheers unc bol mate ☘️
Evening gents! Good to see yer on Break At Dawn Uncle pom. 👍
Tracker for US racing is an absaloute must.
Gl
no 8 first race 🍀
lovely to see you back ewt
bol
You spurs mate hope all’s well 👍😂
yeah all is good matey thanks
i am a gardener so been very lucky and am out every day as normal.
could do with some footie though, be lucky
👍👍good stuff mate take care
Thanks matey U2
try no 1 next ew
thought no 1 had it for a minute
😢
onwards
Well done Pom. 👍
👊🏻🍻
Yahtzee!
Good when yer horse does the nutting eh Pom? ;)
Bit more to it than that it was best horse n well ridden.
Onwards….
Yes mate better to be on the winner 5/1 with 2pts on makes a great night 🍻👌🏻👊🏻
Defo Pom..sn cherrs lads! 👍
Bit annoyed at Word to the Wise going off at 8/11 n getting beat but hey….for horses.
Wise Cat lands for decent profit but so far just hoping Nocturnal Mission makes it another real good night.
Well done lads 👍🌈🌎
eoromatic 8.15
river of lite 22.45
How’s your end azz👍
all fine ew thief cheers mate hope your well
No 2
A no 9 again next race🤞
Was going to start a Twitter account with that as the first selection and sh*ted out and made dinner for the kids instead 😂
Victory Stripe do you mean unc ?
Break at dawn
+24.6 pts now lock-in turning out good 👌🏻
long may it continue uncle pom 🍀
12 ew next race
8 ew next
Try 8 next
12 in the 21.45 was one i ditched from my yankee as its drawn wide as the Clyde n now 6/4 so value if there was any is gonr but if it breaks well with my man from Amsterdam Ty K on board it should be close.
Small RFc on it with High Profile for intrest as the 11.15 like last night for my main bet seems an age away.
Ew… Spurs55 ye near won it.
believe it or not i just did 12 again at will rogers as number 3 won at fonner park because so many times number 3 and 12 tend to follow each other!!!
and it was my free sky bet
lovely jubbly
Happy valley for tomorrow morning
11:45 monkey jewellery 7/2 1pt win
12:15 rich and lucky 7/2 1pt win
Supper bullet 80/1 0.5 ew
12:45 good shot 11/2 1pt win
14:15 Larson 6/1 1pt win
going with number 6 next
and 11
8 again next race
Fonner park 00:42
A bunch for lunch 11/4 1pt win
12 please next race!
Thank you number 12
Lovely jubbly
Going with your number 3 uncle Pom
Seems a good number tonight judging by what’s gone before!
12,3 9, 6 etc etc
Bol
Nite all
Should have done number 3 again first race happy valley!
☹️
Ignore that last comment
Looking at the wrong race
Thanks Pom
No worries mate 🍻
* 30.1 Pts
Good hunting at happy valley with a 7/2 and 6/1 winner Larson pays us back for the near miss last time . 🍻
I would of done write ups put forums clogged as it is .
home made 3.15 ew enrichment 3.50 ew
Gotta try 12 in the next🤞
Happy dragon
Ew
And 11 ew
happy guy 6.30
wheelbarrelbrother 7.00 ffurgie 7.15 chicks shadow 7.30 first for quality 7.45 all ew singles
Tampa race 5 Fashions Star 5/2
3 an 12 again tonight i notice !!!!
memorise 21.48