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2.10 – It's to be hoped today's the day Puffin Billy proves these six rivals barely deserve to be on the same racecourse as him.
Take away his last two starts, both of which are readily excusable, and he'd be nearer 1.3 for today's race.
The new trip of an extended two and a half miles won't be a problem and the recommendation is to live and die by the assertion Puffin Billy is only a handful of pounds behind the best in what is a vintage crop of novices.
2.45 – As I write this the field for leg two is still 16-strong and clinging on to the relative comfort of four places.
Therefore, we can try and sneak through with just two selections, especially with one of them being Hunters Lodge. Consistent and proven at the track, Hunters Lodge has continually shaped like one crying out for marathon trips this season, something he gets a first real crack at today.
Up 6 lb for trouncing a subsequent winner at Uttoxeter last time, Hunters Lodge is as solid as we're likely to get. Second selection Bounds And Leaps is also coming here off the back of a convincing victory, hers at Fontwell, and although she's been put up 13 lb and isn't nearly as consistent as Hunters Lodge, she is worth a chance to improve again.
3.20 – With this being another handicap containing more than 15 runners, we can take the risky approach of selecting just two.
The pair are Bourne, who has been consistent since having blinkers fitted (run in the Martin Pipe more than excusable having suffered interference), and County Hurdle sixth Edgardo Sol, who is well handicapped on chase form and is more likely than not to stay this trip.
3.55 – The Silver Trophy, although a limited handicap, would function just as well as a graded race such is the quality among the seven runners. But a handicap it is, and one full of high-class but largely exposed chasers: see Menorah, Hunt Ball and Big Fella Thanks.
Champion Court is probably an exception: he's not run in a handicap since finishing second to the most progressive William's Wishes over 17 furlongs at Ascot from this mark in the autumn.
Since then Champion Court has probably improved, hitting the frame in the King George and Ryanair, while this trip is likely to suit him perfectly. With the last two legs arguably the toughest of all, we're going to forego a backup option.
4.30 – Regal Presence is there to be shot at, his attitude already under some suspicion and the form of his win at Ascot last time (for which he admittedly goes unpenalised) is likely to be not a patch on this competitive heat.
That said, we're again going to lean on the fact that there will likely be four places on offer to scrape through with two selections. Italian Master is the obvious starting point, the form of his third at Newbury last time working out well and his profile strongly pointing to further improvement over this three-mile trip.
Moorlands Mist goes in as a secondary option, his win over this trip last time coming in spite of a blunder two out, and any improvement on that should see him on the premises.
5.05 – The good news is if we make it to leg six we're home and hosed: the bad news is it means we've had to scrimp and save all through the perm to get to this point. Take all four in this closing novice chase which is essentially trappy yet of high-enough quality to be fairly described as fascinating.
Selections
2.10 – 1
2.45 – 1, 7
3.20 – 2, 5
3.55 – 3
4.30 – 4, 5
5.05 – 1, 2, 3, 4
= 32 lines
Milesey (Betfair)
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Milesy
Apologies if Im being thick but Im lost with this?
32 lines? Is this a combination/perm of all horses selected?
I thought a place pot was more straightforward.
A brief explanation would be good.
thanks
The Tote Placepot is a bet, which asks you to nominate a horse (or horses) to finish in a
relevant placed position in each of the first six races at any one meeting.
The rules for potentially successful placed horses are exactly the same that govern eachway
bets. Your selection(s) must finish as listed below:
2-3-4 runners—you must identify the winning horse.
5-6-7 runners—successful places apply to the first and second only.
8 runners or more—your selection(s) must fill any of the first three places.
Fourth place applies in handicap races with a minimum field of sixteen. The exception to
the rule is the Triumph Hurdle at Cheltenham in March. This race is not a handicap,
though the fourth place rule still applies.
In the event of a horse being withdrawn, your selection will automatically transfer to the
favourite.
If there are joint (two) favourites or co (three or more) market leaders, your transferred
selection will apply to the horse with the lowest number in the race. As an example, your
transferred selection would be on horse number five, if the co-favourites were numbers
five, seven and eleven.
The Placepot dividend is declared to one pound, though clients can reduce the unit stake
via permutations if they wish. Selecting two horses in difficult looking events is not only
acceptable from the bookmaker’s perspective – it also makes good sense if you are trying
to win a sizeable dividend.
You might like to try a perm of 2 x 1 x 2 x 1 x 2 x 2 on a race card, which looks
particularly competitive. Your chosen unit stake might be twenty pence, which in this
case would evaluate to a total commitment of £3.20 (16 bets x 20p). Unit stakes can be as
low as ten pence a unit (at most bookmakers), or any amount up to the full unit of one
pound. It is entirely your decision.
You are asked to make your selection(s) via the relevant race card number of the horse(s)
you wish to select. Alternatively, you can simply nominate the favourite if you wish.
INTRODUCTION
The Placepot is one of the value bets in racing. Just a £1.00 bet can return dividends in
excess of several hundred pounds! To win the placepot you have to select a horse to be
placed in each of the first six races at a meeting. As well as being great value it is a high
‘interest’ bet as it gives you an interest in the first 6 races of a meeting, for just a small
investment. The Tote runs Placepots, but most high street bookmakers will now accept
placepot bets (anywhere where you see the Tote Direct stickers). Whether you bet most
days or just on Saturdays, a Placepot can be a smart investment to make.
THE METHOD
You must decide which meeting to use each day. It is best to stick to just one meeting per
day. If there is a choice of meetings then it is usually best not to use the main meeting as
this quite often contains races with big, competitive fields, and it makes our job of
finding horses to place more difficult. Conversely, the lowest grade meeting of the day,
particularly in the flat season, also has its problems. The horses here are often ridden by
the poorest standard of jockeys which makes analysis hard, especially in the transistion
months between flat and national hunt seasons e.g March and November, when the
weather and fitness can also play its part.
So when presented with a choice of meetings pick the second biggest meeting of
the day to work on. If you are uncertain which one this is, then add together the prize
values of each race at each meeting. The one with the second highest total will be the one
to use. Or you can select a meeting where the fields are not too large as to make selection
nearly impossible, and on the other hand avoid the meeting where there are a lot of small
fields which means you would have to select the winner each time.
Using your discretion and having selected our meeting, we now need to make our
selections. To capture the Placepot we are going to use a Placepot perm. This allows us
to pick more than one horse in each race. Most bookmakers now supply Placepot perm
slips which make entering easier.
To win the pot we need to select a placed horse in each race. Obviously if we had
covered say, three horses in every race then our chances are greatly improved.
Unfortunately it’s not that easy! The more horses we cover in each race, the more costly
our bet. To cover three in each of the six races would need 729 bets, i.e. 729 times our
original stake.
The perm you should use is the perm that suits that particular meeting, for e.g. the
size of the fields, the jockeys on show, the ground and the draw, make your selections on
the basis that each race is an individual race that you are looking for an each way value
bet. Many punters overlook this and will concentrate on the first few in the betting.
If you are an experienced student of form you can add your own knowledge to the
selection process, but never base your selections on S.P. forecasts. Using the morning
betting forecasts can be a very reliable selection method to use. But this process can take
all the fun out of your bet and take away that “ I picked that horse” factor. The only time
I would suggest looking at the s.p. forecasts as well as what has been tipped by the media
for the six races concerned. Is when your looking at the two races with the shortest priced
favourites. These should be the most reliable favourites of the day, and even if they don’t
win, they should place. These should act as your “single” entries in the perm. For your
other selections I suggest you look at the form guide in one of the specialist racing papers
as their form guides are more comprehensive, but which ever media you use, keep to the
same one each day.
tips
In Races of 2-7 runners where you must identify the winning horse or 2nd placed
horse (5-7 runners) I would suggest you make 2 selections especially in high
quality fields. Class B upwards.
• The best way to play the placepot is to try and oppose the fancied horses. You
may win on fewer occasions but the greater dividends make up for that and some.
Pool betting is about beating your fellow punters so avoid where possible the
obvious selection. Remember the point is not to pick the winner but to pick a
placed horse.
• Keep a running record of your placepot bets, see where you are successful and try
to show any trends in your betting, you’ll be surprised how trends show in your
betting e.g How many favourites lose in 2-y-o races, and how many odds on
favourites win in group A races. Use your records as your knowledge base before
looking at form.
Milesey
Tote UK Placepot
Aim
TheTote offer’s UK Placepot betting on all UK race meetings. Similar to the Irish Placepot you must select a placed horse in all 6 Placepot races at your selected meeting. The UK Placepot races are always races 1 – 6 unless otherwise stated. For many, it is the ideal bet to keep an interest in throughout the day whilst only making a small stake. All Placepot’s must be placed before the “off” of first race and dividends are declared after the last Placepot race.
Cost
How do I calculate the cost?
Calculating the cost of your Placepot bet is straightforward. Multiply the number of horses you pick in each race by each other. This will give you the number of units you have. Then multiply this figure by your selected stake. For example:
•Race 1: 2 horses
•Race 2: 1 horse
•Race 3: 3 horses
•Race 4: 1 horse
•Race 5: 2 horses
•Race 6: 1 horse
Thus 2x1x3x1x2x1 = 12 units
12 units at a £1 stake will cost you £12.
In Order to solve past issues our clients encountered with some UK products.
We now offer all UK multi-leg bets in Sterling with a Euro equivalent when you select a Sterling stake you will be shown the Euro Equivalent next to it i.e. £10 (€12.54)
As the UK pools take whole Pence only, This new method ensures you get the full benefit of winnings from the UK Pools
Milesey
milesey what’s your choice on the 5.05 at cheltenham
5.05 HOUBLON DES OBEAUX 9/4 Bet365
Jockey – Aidan Coleman
Trainer – Miss V Williams
Winner of three hurdle races and two chases from 1m 7f to 3m on ground varying from good to heavy. Beaten 11l behind Lord Windermere at 8-1 when seventh of 11 on his latest outing in a Grade 1 chase here over 3m (good to soft) last month. Has won at Wincanton and Worcester this season.
Milesey (Betfair)
Milesy
Your last post was exactly what I was looking for. Ive done placepots for years but always just one horse per leg and a striaght £2 stake.
Every day is a school day!!!
cheers
see races with 3 or 4 runners, do you ever take them all and hope for the outsider coming in?? I do that quite alot and take big price horses at small stakes 20p placepot 30p quads, and when you do get it up it pays well. usually take 2 in the 1st and 3rd races aswell but there’s nothing worse than getting let down at the last on the fav, especially if your horse is a non-runner and goes automatically on favourite
I did do for the 5.05, taking 1,2,3,4……….. but the first result has blown me out anyway, as puffin billy was shocking think it finished 5th out of the 6 runners in the end, so that’s that for me……. result was…
14:10 6,5
Milesey
All is not lost- try a Quadpot which starts from the third race. Sometimes a Quadpot pays more than a placepot. Its also easier to get one up.
PLACEPOT
2.10 – 1
2.45 – 1, 7
3.20 – 2, 5
3.55 – 3
4.30 – 4, 5
5.05 – 1, 2, 3, 4
= 32 lines
RESULT
2.10 – 6, 5
2.45 – 17, 10, 6
3.20 – 16, 13, 3
3.55 – 3, 1, 2
4.30 – 17, 15, 4
5.05 – 4, 1, 3, 2
Milesey
HORSE RACING TIPS
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THURSDAY 18TH APRIL 2013
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RACE IN FOCUS – NEWMARKET 3:30
Captain Ramius was better than ever in 2012, winning Ayr Gold Cup in September and 7f Doncaster minor event in October. Back to best when second to Jack Dexter in listed event at latter track last time.
Hawkeyethenoo is a strong traveller who can list wins in 2011 Victoria Cup and 2012 Stewards’ Cup on CV. Career best when ¾-length second to Maarek in Ascot Group 2 final start last term and gone well fresh before.
Jimmy Styles is an admirable front-runner who showed he’s as good as ever with victory in Deauville Group 3 last August. Runner-up in this race last year and capable of another bold showing.
Move In Time ended 2011 campaign by landing 5f listed contest at Ascot for Bryan Smart. Back at that level when winning handicaps for new yard in recent weeks and expected to go close on hat-trick attempt.
Pandar was a smart performer in Italy last year, winning 3 times. Well held on debut for new yard in November, though, and will need to find some improvement to go close on return to action.
Swiss Cross ended drought in 6f Lingfield handicap in December, but not at his best in recent months and faces a stiff task here. Engaged 4.20 Beverley Wednesday.
The Cheka won a Doncaster listed event on reappearance last term and went on to finish placed 4 times in pattern company, including second in July Cup. Goes well fresh and another who can’t be ruled out.
Tiddliwinks is a smart performer who was better than ever in 2012, winning Duke of York Stakes and a Group 3 at the Curragh. Player if close to best, though he’s needed his reappearance in last 2 campaigns.
Angels Will Fall won a 5f listed race at Ayr in June and ran close to best when third to Swiss Dream in C&D listed event on final start last term. Will need to improve to have big say in matters.
Hallelujah is a lightly-raced mare who won 3 of first 4 starts. Further progress when third in York Group 3 in July and probably best to forgive poor run in C&D listed event when last seen in October. Unexposed.
Tickled Pink was runner-up first 3 starts and made it fourth time lucky in 6f Yarmouth maiden last June. Needs to step up a lot to go close at this level but interesting connections think it’s worth a try.
1. Move In Time
2. Captain Ramius
3. The Cheka
VERDICT: A competitive renewal of this Group 3 prize. Move In Time has thrived for the switch to David O’Meara and can strike again while the iron’s hot. Captain Ramius, The Cheka and Hawkeyethenoo are others who will go close if anywhere near their best.
NEWMARKET DOUBLE
4:05
TORNONADO (nap) 1/1 bet365
He has won three times from 6f to 7f on good and good to soft ground. A winner at 11-4 in the Group 2 Champagne Stakes at Doncaster over 7f (good) on his latest outing in September last year, beating Dundonnell by 1/2l.
5:45
HILLSTAR 13/8 bet365
Won on his latest outing when 2-1fav at Leicester over 7f (soft) in October last year, beating Flashlight by 3/4l.
CHELTENHAM DOUBLE
2:35
VIOLIN DAVIS 7/2 bet365
Has won three hurdle races, a NH flat race and four chases from 1m 6f to 3m on ground varying from good to firm to heavy. Won on her latest outing in a chase when 10-3fav at Taunton over 2m 7f (good to firm) earlier this month, beating Qianshan Leader by 3/4l. Has won 3 times this season.
3:45
DANIMIX 6/1 bet365
Winner of a hurdle race, a NH flat race and three chases from 2m to 3m 1f on ground varying from good to firm to good to soft. Won on his latest outing in a chase when 13-8jt-fav at Wetherby over 3m 1f (good to soft) earlier this month, beating Real Milan by 3/4l. Has won 3 times this season.
OUTSIDER OF THE DAY
4:20
BIG EASY 14/1
Successful in two hurdle races at 2m 3f and 2m 4f on good and good to soft ground. Finished 10l behind Medinas when sixth of 28 at 25-1 on his latest outing in a Grade 3 hurdle race here over 2m 5f (good to soft) last month.
Milesey