THIS thread is for football chat – not tips – so if you want to see punters' best teams of all time this is the place.
We can't bet on it but I'm sure it will be a popular debate once cooldude reposts his line-up and of course raaljaca has already stated his preference.
You can talk about anything football-related here that is not a tip – so please use it. Keep it clean and don't be bigoted or racist.
My all time dream team.
GK P Schmeichel LB A Cole CB J Staam CB J Terry RB P Lamb
LM Giggs CM Alonso CM Pogba RM Robben
St G Best St Messi.
Any challengers??!!
Cooldude-are u seriously saying Pogba is 1 of the all time greatest centre midfielders and Robben is better than Ronaldo,Zidane or Figo?
My main challenge would be Robben on the right he goes missing in games, put beckham there for guaranteed quality at set pieces and crosses. Plus pogba over keane or viera?
I will have a bit of that. GK: Gordon Banks. LB: P. Maldini CB F. Benkenbuer . CB F Baresi. RB. Cafu. LM Maradona CM Zidane CM Gerrard RM Christiano Ronaldo CF Messi CF Van Basten
My all time 11 and subs are:
GK Jim Leighton
RB Doug Rougvie
CB Alex McLeish
CB Willie Miller (c)
LB John McMaster
RM Neale Cooper
CM Gordon Strachan
CM Neil Simpson
LM Peter Weir
CF Eric Black
CF Mark McGhee
Substitutes:
GK Bryan Gunn
DF Stuart Kennedy
MF Andy Watson
MF Ian Angus
FW John Hewitt
1.Rousset
2.Mcpherson
3.Naysmith
4.Weir
5.Salvatori
6.Ritchie
7.McCann
8.Fulton
9.Adam
10.Cameron
11.Flogel
subs
12.Murray
14.Robertson
15.Hamilton
Jamos8, wonder what game that team played in? One question – why has no one picked Hamilton’s Darian MacKinnon? He’d be second name on my team.
Gaz h, Im not here to stir aggro. Its all about opinions and of course I would have Figo or Zidane in there but there’s not enough room. As for Ronaldo well Im not fan as he’s to worried about his image generally his body and hair.
Danny, I dont think we will ever see a player of the class of Cafu ever again. He would cover every blade of grass for the entire 90 minutes. He literally never tired and played the role of RM and RB because he was so fit.
But the scariest thing of all was that he could still do it in his final years and there was little or no decline. A true great
All time Chelsea team (since I started going/following)
P Cech
R Harris
J Terry
M Droy
G Locke
R Gullit
R Wilkins
F Lampard
P Nevin
G Zola
K Dixon
I’ve missed loads, I know.
Cooldude -who said out about Aggro? I’m merely stating that Paul Pogba wouldn’t even get in an all time greatest France 11 never mind world 11. And if Ronaldo shaved all his hair off and put a couple of Stone on he’d still be better than Robben.
My all time 11
GK. O.khan
LB. Roberto Carlos
CB. Franz Beckanbaur
CB. Carlos Puyol
RB. Cafu
LM. Maradona
CM. Keane
CM. Scholes
RM. Cristiano Ronaldo
CF. Ronaldo (Brazilian)
CF. Alan Shearer
Gaz. No club needs a teammate combing their hair before the game or posing like a model after a goal. There’s no need for it Ronaldo will never get a look in. end of.
Ginola for president
Here’s an update, as it’s a new thread. Some people including myself, like the Conference leagues for goals, but so far these games are off this Saturday.
Dartf’d v Woking
A’shot v Dover
Eastleigh v Wrexham
G’head v Welling
Worcester v AFC Flyde
Staines v H Hempstead
a few games in the Highland League are casualties too(another league where I’ve noticed they’re not shy of finding the net, unfortunately it’s not easy to find these games on coupons – perhaps McBookie?)
stagger, McBookie do Highland and Lowland League online and Ladbrokes have a shop coupon with both of those leagues and junior top-flight games.
Thanks, MrF, but please tell me, is the Ladbrokes shop coupon exclusive to Scotland? It’s prob a silly question but I’d like to know for sure, as I’ve never seen High/Low land games on their shop coupons. (I am in London) Thanks.
stagger, if you’ve not seen it then it probably is – called Totally Scotland and comes out on a Friday. If you have a helpful member of staff they should take your bet and check prices for you.
Prob my best hearts game Mr Fixit lol. Great day and team.
Napoli
Rennes
Galatasaray
6/4
Any thoughts ?
Ignore that galatasaray one just seen who they were playin, no worth while. Just go fit MrF double
Many thanks, MrF. I’ll be looking into it.
Mr f here’s an interesting article.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside-europe/martin-odegaard–%C2%A380-000-per-week-for-a-16-year-old-is-ludicrous-152002814.html
Personally I think it is too much for a 16 year old. Its possible he will get it in his head that he is set up for life and therefore we may never see 100% from him again.
Whats your opinion Mr f, too much too young???
cooldude, Odegaard is well know to Scots and Celtic fans in particular so the story’s been followed closely and the Record reported his signing in today’s paper. It was Ronny Deila who gave him his debut as a 15-year-old at Stromsgodset and Odegaard credits the Celtic manager with much of his progress. Deila hoped to bring him to Glasgow but obviously that wasn’t going to happen when all of Europe’s top clubs are chasing you. Seems to be the real deal though and it’s up to Real to nurture him and bring him on – the way Sporting Lisbon seem to be doing with Ryan Gauld.
A bit o fun :) World 11/22 man squad(players I’ve seen or watched plenty of)
GK…Gianluca Buffon/Stefan Klos
LB…Lillian Thuram/Roberto Carlos
CB…Paolo Maldini/Billy McNeil
CB…Franco Baresi/Willie Miller
RB…Ronald Koeman/Cafu
LM…Maradona/Del Piero
CM…ZInadene Zidane/Lubimer Moravcieck
CM…Francesco Totti /Roberto Baggio
RM…Cristiano Ronaldo/Jimmy Johnstone
FW…Ronaldo/Dennis Berg
FW…Tierry Henry/Van Basten
Player/Manager…Alvaro Recoba :P
Assistant Manager…Ryan Giggs
Director of Football…Eric Cantona
Financial Advisor…David Beckham ;)
You need to swap koeman and thuram around
wet lettuce, unless you have evidence don’t make those allegations.
ULTIMATE DREAM TEAM :)
Ronnie Simpson (Goalkeeper)Jim Craig (Right back)David McCann (Left back)Bobby Murdoch (Right half)Billy McNeill (Captain, Centre half)John Clark (Left half)Jimmy Johnstone (Outside right)Willie Wallace (Inside right)Stevie Chalmers (Centre forward)Bertie Auld (Inside left)Bobby Lennox (Outside left)
Alves, which of your Lisbon Lions would you lose to accommodate Clydebank legend Davie Cooper who should be in everyone’s team?
See Ryan Gauld made his senior league debut for Sporting Lisbon at the weekend and the manager and fans were impressed. Great to hear! All good for Scotland :)
recoba1980, I saw that and he started in the cup last night and scored Sporting’s two goals.
Why do alot of British people not mention maradonna in their all time greatest teams? He was one of the best players to ever walk the earth. Seen him play in Dublin once, he really was something else. Ok he cheated against England in 86 but why doesn’t he get the respect in the UK? Just curious
GK- Buffon
RB- Cafu
LB- Maldini
CB-Thuram
CB- Baresi
CM- Zidane
CM- Viera
CM- Keane
CF- C. Ronaldo
LW- Maradona
RW-Messi
Haha the Scottish dream teams are hilarious, i don’t think they’d get through the 3rd round of the fa cup
Jayp, he was a cheat that’s why. lacked sportsmanship just a horrible individual
Small rant here, sorry can’t help myself. It pains me to see people now referring to Ronaldo as Ronaldo (Brazil). Until recently Cristiano Ronaldo was always referred to as “Portuguese Ronaldo” to avoid confusion with THE Ronaldo. I don’t care how many Balon d’Ors Crissy wins, he will always be second to the great Ronaldo. Rant over.
@stuart.. Yeah he cheated but so did Thierry Henry against ireland, so did Zinedine Zidane against italy, and these are regarded as great players. It’s not a Popularity contest, and it should’nt be. Just going on football abilty Diego Maradona was the best ive ever seen, messi second, and Johan Cryuff third.
Baldy45 Ronaldo was a bit special but even though he still had a stunning career and is one of the best I’ve seen we will never know just what he could have been without the knee injuries. From 19-25 he was unbelievable,burst of pace was probably best I’ve ever seen!
anyone else seeing this Sverresborg V Afjord game (in play)? 6-0 after 19 minutes. Surely this is going to be a record scoring game.
Anyone ever seen anything like this before?
8-0 now (30 mins played)
I thought id google the highest ever scoring game and its 136 – 0
thats more than a goal a minute…shocking!
i-Try, what game was that? British record is 36-0 in the Scottish Cup on the same day someone won 35-0.
Ok sorry Mr F.
Notice of complaint issued to Steve Simonsen
Thursday, 22 January 2015
The Compliance Officer has issued the following Notice of Complaint:
Alleged Party in Breach: Steve Simonsen (Rangers FC)
Disciplinary Rule(s) allegedly breached:
1) Disciplinary Rule 33 (Season 2013/14): In that between 15th January 2014 and 22nd June 2014, both dates inclusive, you bet upon 18 football matches.
2) Disciplinary Rule 31 (Season 2014/15): In that between 6th September 2014 and 13th January 2015, both dates inclusive, you bet upon 37 matches.
Principal Hearing Date: Thursday, 12th February 2015
Mr Simonsen has until Thursday, 29th January 2015 to respond to the complaint.
Disciplinary Rule 33 (from season 2013/14): No club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, match official or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall bet in any way on a football match (except authorised and registered football pools).
Disciplinary Rule 31 (2014/15): No club, official, Team Official or other member of Team Staff, player, match official or other person under the jurisdiction of the Scottish FA shall gamble in any way on a football match. Any such club or person to have engaged in gambling of any description on football shall be in breach of this rule.
For the first time ever all the teams in the Barclays premier league are in the top 40 richest clubs in the world! This is due to the money on offer from tv! The same article mentioned that Cardiff City who were relegated received more money than the champions,Man City due to tv and a payment for getting relegated!!! This also means that the likes of Burnley have more spending clout than Celtic! Dearie me
Hibernian FC – Statement by David Low
Posted on January 22, 2015
Since Hibernian FC (“Hibernian” or “the club”) published its report and accounts for the year to 31 July 2014 and announced its intention to issue new shares I have been approached by a large number of shareholders and supporters and asked to increase the offer my group made last year and to offer to buy all of the new shares Hibernian is proposing to issue.
I have considered the financial statements to 31 July 2014 and reviewed the Information Memorandum provided by the Board and my valuation of the club’s shares has not changed.
It remains my view that Hibernian’s assets remain overvalued at pre-recession and banking crisis levels. The bank debt has now been replaced by a new large debt to the controlling shareholder and these facts together with the poor financial performance of the business over many years mean Hibernian’s shares continue to have a negligible economic value. Consequently, my group will not be making a new offer, subscribing for new shares or making a donation.
If the controlling shareholder wishes to value its investment at £7.5m that is its prerogative and its decision has to be both respected and accepted as does my own valuation.
However, what is less acceptable is the Board’s deliberate decision to avoid providing thousands of existing and prospective shareholders and donors with any up to date financial information to help them make their own decision on the merits of an investment or a donation. It is not unreasonable to want to know what you are being asked to invest in or donate to. It is still not too late for the Board to provide that information as the share offer will remain open until 31 August 2015 (or such other date as the Board may decide).
The Board really should address the following issues:-
1.No financial information has been provided in respect of current trading. This is particularly relevant given the published accounts relate to when the club was in the Premier League. Given the club has subsequently been relegated the Board should immediately release a current trading update and publish six month figures to 31 January 2015 as soon as is practical. There are thousands of existing and prospective shareholders and donors who would like to know how the club’s doing.
2.The published accounts to 31 July 2014 casually announced the outsourcing of the club’s retail operation. Why was the business outsourced, who was it outsourced to and on what terms was it outsourced? There are thousands of existing and prospective shareholders and donors who would like to know.
3. The published accounts provide detailed information on the club’s loan arrangements with its bank. No information was been provided in respect of the new loan arrangements with the new lender. Who, exactly, is the loan is with, what are the loan terms and who now has security over the club’s assets. There are thousands of existing and prospective shareholders and donors who would like to know.
4.The club’s existing Articles of Association enable the Board to restrict and control who owns shares in the future. It is not unusual for shareholders’ personal circumstances to change thereby necessitating a sale of shares. There are thousands of existing and prospective shareholders and donors who would like to know why the Board has not referred to or addressed this matter.
It would be both constructive and helpful to all if these matters were addressed posthaste.
In my opinion, the most likely outcome of the share issue is that supporters will end up with a minority shareholding in the club. My group’s offer involved donating 25% of the issued shares to a supporters’ charitable body and I invite the controlling shareholder to now consider doing the same.
For the avoidance of doubt, these are my personal views and any supporter considering investing in Hibernian shares should seek the advice of a financial advisor authorised by the FCA.
Pax Vobiscum et Serva Fidem
David Low
22 January 2015
Raal, I just hope his bets won!!
If he backed against Rangers he will be wealthy dudes!!! A complete idiot and ignorance will be no defence.
Mr F/Scott,why was that post removed?
Flickhead, take a wild guess
Scott would you clear my comment above Re Hibs please. I am good friends with David Low and it basically advises fans not to invest in the club, he is a die hard Hibby.
raaljaca, I’m afraid David Low didn’t do Clydebank any favours when we were fighting for our lives.
Flickhead, you went overboard with the swearing and insult
buffon
carlos
cannavaro
stam
cafu
beckham
keane
zidane
messi
Ronaldo
ronaldo
Ok fella fair enough.
george best.
Raal,if he put a grand on the 17,he could have saved the shell suit boys by now.
Simonsen did not bet in any game involving the mighty blues ktf
Hamish I don’t think he would have bet on an Everton game :-)
Thanks for the posts raal enjoyed reading them :) shame about the btts in the afc there but level stakes means no harm done. Take it you quit emailing the tips out raal? Miss those days :) hope things are better with family
Kev, never really had time mate but I will hopefully soon. Few bad things going on family health wise but hopefully things will get better in the future.
As reported on sky news ktf
Hello chaps
I vaguley recall around 20 odd years ago that someone got into a fair bit of trouble (possibly jailed).
For altering an old style football coupon,
Basically after placing a small bet he waited until the games were finished then added 1 2 X on the paper copy you received.
Then tried to claim his winnings, If my memory serves me correctly his winnings would of been multi millions of pounds.
Does anyone else remember this
Eddie what about this bet;
The Lucky 15 bet involved 15, 20p bets on four correct score predictions: four singles, six doubles, four trebles and an accumulator.
They were Brentford 2 Chelsea 2 at 18/1 , Leeds 3 Tottenham 1 (25/1), Oldham 3 Liverpool 2 (80/1), and St Mirren 3 Celtic 2 (50/1).
From January 2013, the guy got 3 from 4 and the Leeds game finished 2-1 but Leeds scored a 3rd right at the end but the referee, Kevin Friend, blew for full time just before the ball went in. The guy won 17k but had the ref blown a second later and Leeds finished 3-1 his winnings were 500k
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270928/Kevin-Friend-Gambler-denied-500-000-windfall-football-accumulator-bet-referee-blowing-whistle.html
1. Schmeichel
2. Danny McGrain
3. Paoli Maldini
4. Franz Beckenauer
5. Bill McNeil
6. Steven Gerrard
7. Puskas
8. Zinedine Zadine
9. Henrik Larsson
10. Maradona
11. Ronaldo
im sure you remember henry smith ralljacca hes still involved with the club i believe
Henry actually worked for me as a driver in one of my Private Hire companies darran for a while in Sighthill in Edinburgh mate. Alan McLaren did as well.
raaljaca, he went on to play for us too when Viola was involved with the Bankies. Not great days I’m afraid.
legend ralljaca
He wouldn’t even make the bench Paul :)
if i was a manager in football every game id have my best team playing then when win is secured take 3 key players off not leave 3 key players out then have to bring them on to scrape a win common sense really
Ralljaca I suppose Simonsen is just doing what the others are doing to rangers taking the piss out of their club a public farce get it sorted rangers I’m not a fan by any means but it is highly stupid what’s going on if I was connected with rangers I’d be doing what Wimbledon or mk dons did cause as I see it their ruined but the fans could rescue their situation
any tip/advice for tomorrow night. friday.
tartan dont eat yellow snow
Football flops.
Maybe its a bit early to judge but i have to say PSG buying David Luiz for a record 50m will surely rank as a massive flop.
Mangala of Man City looks like someone in the local park hence Demichelis keeping him out, who would have ever thought that
:)
Shevchenko to Chelsea . He was a world beater and it just didn’t happen at Chelsea and it seemed to end his career effectively
HEARTS V HIBS HEAD TO HEADS
The last time we were behind was Sat 09 Mar 1901 Hearts 1 Hibernian 1
We went above them on Sat 17 Aug 1901 Hearts 2 Hibernian 1 to lead by 1.
We now lead by 64 games :) A pointless but heartwarming statistic
Clubs are used to the odd duff signing. But Cambridge United’s acquisition of a scoreboard from Rangers in the mid-90s was up there among the duffest.
It replaced a much-loved clock in the corner between the Habbin Stand and Newmarket Road End, and worked for less than two seasons.
It is still there, gathering rust, hidden behind an advertisement hoarding.
“It just suddenly appeared,” said Dave Matthew-Jones, chair of the supporters’ group Cambridge Fans United. “It didn’t work very long.”
Taylor’s memory of the scoreboard is more succinct: “Pretty much like Rangers at the moment, it doesn’t work.”
RONNY DEILA today praised the “world-class” ability of Leigh Griffiths as he revealed John Guidetti has delayed talks over his future.
“I believe in him. He’s a very exciting player and his left foot is world-class, I’ve not seen any player have a better left foot in my life.
** Leigh Griffiths World Class!! Deila really needs to get off the glue **
Jealousy will get you nowhere