JOHNB had one winner on Thursday and after the rule 4 it was a 1.98pt loss for the day.

October is now 31.91pts down and Johnb says: “This month is looking the same as last October as we get to the end of flat and beginning of the jumps.

“But at the start of November last year I said we would make a profit and it was my second best month with 70pts profit. This November will be another profit but there’s still time to turn October round.”

Johnb’s Friday Tip

Wincanton 3:35
Regulation 6-1 NAP/NB Paddy Power (double stake)

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  1. Jim burnside 3 years ago

    Hope ur right jonb.ur due a change of Fortune.

  2. Dariusz 3 years ago

    Timeform comments:

    Regulation (3 out of 5 stars): Useful Flat performer who added another hurdles success to the tally at Warwick (2m) last month. Creditable second at Huntingdon latest, and not discounted back in handicap-company.
    Form: 216312
    Race commentary: 1m 7f 65y. HANDSOME DAN was value for more than the winning margin suggests at Market Rasen last month, and in an open-looking event could be worth chancing to follow up from a 6 lb higher mark. Mountain Fighter, Full Blast and Dry Ol’party are a trio of handicap debutantes from leading yards also worthy of consideration.

    Also At The Races race commentary:
    Full Blast failed to settle on his return to action at Newton Abbot last time, but it is hard to recommend him until he shows he can relax plus the handicapper hasn’t gone easy on him with his opening mark. REGULATION only found the potential high-class Maputo too good last time and he isn’t too badly handicapped judged by his win prior to that. King Muro and Dry Ol’party are others with strong chances in a very open race.

  3. johnb 3 years ago

    Just to let people know, just as I posted odds of 6/1 for regulation the odds changed to 5/1,
    So if the horse wins I will be using 5/1 for my stats

  4. recoba 3 years ago

    Fair enough John mate.
    Lets hope it gets the job done 😉

    I’ll be keeping a few shekels for November and December as I remember them well.
    Also mind missing out on a few bumper paydays too 😐 KTF

  5. davyb 3 years ago

    harmonic wave 1.30 hay
    billy oakes 2.35 hay
    mr potter 4.20 hay
    hyaline 4.55 hay

  6. davyb 3 years ago

    any one have a proplem getting into bet365

  7. Jonny0902 3 years ago

    3:35 w – MOUNTAIN FIGHTER….7/2….NAP/NB

    Gl everyone lets hav a good Friday

  8. Jonny0902 3 years ago

    Yes davey can’t get on mate

  9. johnb 3 years ago

    Davyb bet365 are doing site maintenance again, it was same last night but only for about half an hour

  10. davyb 3 years ago

    thanks not just me then

  11. Peterb 3 years ago

    Well I’ve to fork out £500 on work materials tomorrow so thought I’d have £100 on ur tip johnb see if I can get my stuff for free here’s hoping

  12. arsie 3 years ago

    The yellow bus 6.05 dundalk

  13. JonnyUTD 3 years ago

    Wincanton 2.25 – The Kvilleken NB
    Wincanton 3.00 – Tangolan
    Wincanton 3.35 – Mountain fighter NAP

    NB/NAP double and singles.

    Good luck. Making this a risky meet.

  14. arsie 3 years ago

    Also gona have a small e/w on alladins cave 7.35 33/1

  15. Rookie 3 years ago

    Just the one winner today but 8/1 so happy days.

    21.20 Wol Atreus 10/1
    21.05 Dun Temasek star 6/1
    20.50 Wol Cahar fad 4/1
    15.20 Red Di’s gift 8/1

    £5 short priced treble
    15.45 Hay Mitchum swagger 6/4
    16.00 Fak Knockhouse 6/4
    17.20 Win Rustamabad 6/4
    Treble pays around 15/1

    I also think Parkour (7/1) in the 18.20 at Wolves could give the favourite something to think about.

  16. Kev 3 years ago

    Nap Mitchum swagger NB Gershwin (big baker fan!)

    Maybe throw in tiger Jim for a Trixie

  17. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Fire Fighting running in Dundalk tonight ,can they not give the poor horse a rest
    I mentioned Dark Crescent 4.55 Haydock as one for the tracker but the handicapper has been hard on him and I worry about Hyaline so at 9/1 20/80 for me GL.

  18. Napper Valley 3 years ago

    One strong fancy for tomorrow and a few others.

    Nap wolves 6.20 if winter comes 7/4

    Nb wolves 7.20 Cabuchon 5/1

    Redcar 1.45 muzdawaj 5/6

    Dundalk 6.05 yellow bus 7/4

    GL and for all the people questioning John b. You should try tipping a horse every day of the season and not having a lean spell. Its impossible not to

  19. double carpet 3 years ago

    Morning all

    Just the 2 bets for me today until dundalk later

    Its times like this i wish i hadnt closed my pp account as he was 16s with them last night.
    Anyway, yes im napping this horse. Hasnt run over hurdles for a couple of seasons but in that time has been running with credit on the level and was rated as high as 74 so to be in here on a mark of 82 he is absolutely thrown in. Add to that the trainers record at the track 50% win strike rate (5-10) must give this horse an outstanding chance.

    ALWAYS RESOLUTE 12/1 ew 5.30 haydock
    Has ran 3 times at the track winning twice. Stayed on strongly here lto when having a poor start to win over 14f and being upped to 2m will definately suit

    Busy day ahead but will be back for dundalk. So until then

    Best of luck to all

  20. jules 3 years ago

    Hello again got another free £40 bet today this time on 2:35 haydock can do e/w any tips please?

  21. busstop 3 years ago

    Morning all

    3 bets for me today


    16.35 ISTIMRAAR 9/4

    15.25 UNTIL WINNING 7/4


    16.45 DEMOGRAPHIC E/W 15/2

    All prices are BET365

    gl all

  22. Garfo 3 years ago

    Couple double for me..Wincanton..3.00 POLISKY…3.35…FULL BLAST..CHOW..GL ALL..HERES HOPING JB TODAY.SMALL WAGER ON U 2.

  23. Garfo 3 years ago


  24. mig 3 years ago

    Couple from me today

    2.35 haydock straighttothepoint 16/1 e/w

    4.20 haydock hairdryer 11/2

    add regulation for e/w patent


  25. Rookie 3 years ago

    Hi jules. Having looked, mississippi should be in with a place shout at 12/1. But id wait and see if e/w thief has anything for that!

  26. scotty 3 years ago

    All over smash williams rookie

  27. blinkerz 3 years ago

    Dream bounty 8/1 nap

    17.05 redcar

  28. jules 3 years ago

    Cheers rookie will decide before the off will check the market a bit aswell

  29. hamish75 3 years ago

    Good morning peepil does anyone hav a clue how many times mitchum swagger has been entered in a race then taken oot a fink its been entered fir the last 4 weeks a jist hope the wait has been worth it gud luck ti johnb hopin fir a biggie over the weekend ktf

  30. Opportunist 3 years ago

    AlanM anything from you today

  31. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    No pressure then rookie;-)
    FOSSA 5.50W

  32. benaaron 3 years ago

    Today and tomorrow has some great racing going 1pt all of these to win and 0.5 point doubles and trebles.

    1.40 Muzdawaj 11/10 (r)
    5.30 Magic Circle 2/1 (h)
    3.45 Mitchum Swagger 7/4 (h)
    2.15 Nebula Storm 2/1 (f)
    3.20 Scrafton 9/2 2 point win (r)
    2.35 Tiger Jim 9/2 2 point win (h)

    • busstop 3 years ago

      bennaron 6 horses thats 15 doubles and 20 trebles at 0.5 point and the 6 x 1 points wins thats 23.5 points on one bet.

      seems a lot

      gl though

  33. conor 3 years ago

    Why the confidence for the selection johnny

  34. azz the wigan 3 years ago

    Deaville prince ew 2.35 forever.my friend 3. 00.lady atlas ew nap

  35. azz the wigan 3 years ago

    Lady atlas 3.55 ew

  36. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    Hey double carpet whay race is valento oyster in?

  37. Prav 3 years ago

    Let’s have a bash as it’s Friday!! E/W four fold

    3.45 – Dark Ocean 25/1
    3.55 – Lavetta 25/1
    4.30 – Dream Scenario 11/1
    5.05 – Orient sky 22/1


  38. gary 3 years ago

    Paul D – Its the 2.15 Fakenham

  39. azz the wigan 3 years ago

    Forever my friend non runner so ill just stick to.the.two today cheers

  40. jules 3 years ago

    2:15 fakenham paul

  41. robbo 3 years ago

    problem with the site all morning ,doing a lucky 15 on jack garritty already one up

  42. cattack 3 years ago

    Haydock 17;30

    Night Generation @ 11/4 (various)

  43. DonYuzarsif 3 years ago

    505 – Redcar – dream bounty 7/1 – nap/nb

    This to turn over to strong market leaders.

    Good luck all.

  44. MONEY TEAM 3 years ago

    Little word on an ansaab 3.45 12s ew good shout

  45. MONEY TEAM 3 years ago

    3.35 forcast n reverse 2-5 5-2 top chance

  46. MONEY TEAM 3 years ago

    3.35 forcast n reverse 2-5 5-2 top chance

  47. The Rat 3 years ago

    Hacked up! Well done Johnb

  48. fullirish 3 years ago

    well done dats how a nap should win!!!!

  49. Centrecircle 3 years ago

    Well done johnb..cheers mate convincing winner

  50. John Boy Walton 3 years ago

    Well done the master Johnb. Thanks.

  51. PeteT 3 years ago

    Nice 10pt profit to move the month in the right direction. Well done John.

  52. wtf 3 years ago

    Well he pissed that.

    Cracking tip JB

  53. Hellobad 3 years ago

    Superb, thanks JohnB

  54. Kendog 3 years ago

    Thats the Jb I Know!

  55. Wato 3 years ago

    Yes! Thanks Johnb

  56. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    yes johnb thanks

  57. shaky 3 years ago

    nice work jb

  58. SAV-DOG 3 years ago

    Top stuff Johnb


  59. MindCircles 3 years ago

    Regulation won well cheers JohnB. One step closer to ending this month in profit

  60. prav 3 years ago

    well done. pissed it!

  61. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Nice johnb

  62. busstop 3 years ago

    JOHNB great tip and advised at a great price

  63. RJ 3 years ago

    Nice one johnb, romped home.

  64. PeteT 3 years ago

    Was there a R4 on that race? Returns in my account less than expected :o(

    Cant see easily from here

    Still a good win though :o)

  65. azz the wigan 3 years ago

    Well done john.b.cheers

  66. RJ 3 years ago

    PeteT – no rule 4 mate just the one nr left 8 still running so know change in the price

  67. conor 3 years ago

    John b was told to keep an eye out for agent Murphy at beginning of year and he’s been good to me….do you rate his chances tomorrow…much appreciated your work another great wimped thanks

  68. Derek 3 years ago

    Thanks John softens the blow a bit

  69. johnb 3 years ago

    PeteT majority of bookies don’t deduct the 5p rule 4 now unless more than one deduction
    Bet365 didn’t have a rule 4

  70. conor 3 years ago

    John b was told to keep an eye out for agent Murphy at beginning of year and he’s been good to me….do you rate his chances tomorrow…much appreciated your work another great winner thanks

  71. PeteT 3 years ago

    Thanks John B

    I used Betfair Sportsbook as they had the best odds at the time

    Their response

    Eman: Peter due to a non-runner in the race (King Muro) a Rule 4 reduction was applied to your winnings

    That’s a good reason not to use them moving forward!

  72. Peterb 3 years ago

    Happy days Johnb first tip of yours uv done in few weeks. I posted yesterday to say had to spend 5 hundred on work materials so done 100 on at 5s. Lovely 500 worth of free stuff u the man Johnb

  73. johnb 3 years ago

    conor yeah think he has a good chance

  74. PeteT 3 years ago

    In fact Betfair are saying it was a 15% reduction (I guess they mean 15p)

    Eman: there was a 15% deduction in that race

    JohnB – are you saying this should have been a 5p deduction. Sorry, I’m not as clued up on R4 as I should be. Sorry, dont mean to take the shine off a really good win!

  75. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    Thats what you call good timing conor.

  76. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    peterb i mean

  77. OriaZ 3 years ago

    Good stuff johnb! Thx.

  78. johnb 3 years ago

    Pete T all bookies had King Muro at between 10/1 & 12/1 except betfair who had the non runner at 11/2 which is 15p
    Another reason not to use them, that happens a lot

  79. johnb 3 years ago

    Well done everyone who backed the Nap and thanks
    I know it’s hard to follow someone who is going through a bad spell but people who do, then get the good spell from the beginning

  80. PeteT 3 years ago

    Cheers for the update John. Still not a bad return but cant help feeling robbed by Betfair on this one.

    We live and learn.

    Good one for you today – really pleased for you.

  81. robbo 3 years ago

    great tipping king johnb

  82. benaaron 3 years ago

    Always the way first day i dont back johnb he brings home a 5-1 winner always the way lol and i had 3 2nd places fml lol

  83. vinchenzo 3 years ago

    only got 3/1

  84. Alanm 3 years ago

    NAP EL DUQUE 6/1 8.20 Wolverhampton
    NB DUKE OF DUNTON 100/30 7.50 Wolverhamton
    Big shout Ireland Kodiac´s Back 100/30 6.35 Dundalk

    Well done Johnb great stuff.

  85. Solskjaer 3 years ago

    Dundalk 5.35 Rezeki 10/11
    Wolves 5.50 Royal Connoisseur 11/4
    Wolves 6.20 If Winter Comes 2/1


    Cheers again John

  86. Llamados28 3 years ago

    Nice NAP JohnB thanks

  87. DonYuzarsif 3 years ago

    Awesome johnb. Hope some of you got on my tip – dream bounty at 7/1.

    Onwards and upwards.

  88. cosone 3 years ago

    Thanks blinkez for dream bounty!

  89. Tommy d 3 years ago

    Well done john b great stuff

    Any though’ s on FORGOTTEN RULES in the 12.45 ascot a horse I fance for tomorrow

  90. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    nice nap blinkerz, well done

  91. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Well done Duncan & blinkrz nice winners lads

  92. double carpet 3 years ago

    Well done today johnb. Hopefully its the start of nice winning run.

    Well my nap turned out to be a pig but thats racing i guess. Onto dundalk

    5.35 Rezeki
    6.05 The yellow bus
    6.35 Frozen lake
    7.05 Toccata blue
    7.35 Lake Champlain nap
    8.05 Unsinkable (cant have fire fighting at those odds)
    8.35 Jessamine
    9.05 Medemoiselle penny

    All very small stakes for the fun. Enjoy the racing

  93. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Cheers E/W Thief ,the wait was worthwhile for that one,Have heard a good word for Instinctual ,couldn’t get on earlier and the price is s bit short now
    Well done Johnb and all winners

  94. Alanm 3 years ago

    Well done Duncan and blinkerz.

  95. Johnb 3 years ago

    October 21.91 points down

    Saturday’s Tips

    In Salutem 4/1 NAP/NB Bet365 (double stake)

    Candarliya 5/1 Bet365

    Fort Bastion 33/1 NB Paddy Power

    Also 3x 0.25 point doubles & 1x 0.25 point treble at Bet365 odds 4/1 5/1 25/1

    5 points total stake

  96. Johnb 3 years ago

    Odds for Fort Bastion have changed
    NOW 25/1 bet365 so will use 25/1 for my stats

  97. Alanm 3 years ago

    D/$ WELL DONE :)

  98. double carpet 3 years ago

    Havent had a chance to go through the thread yet but well done to all who managed winners today.

    Cheers alan
    A little bit back on what i lost today but still some way to go.
    Can only try

  99. Bigie 3 years ago

    Double Carpet…where is VALENTINO OYSTER 12/1 NAP….nothing in dundalk

  100. double carpet 3 years ago

    It ran today in the 2.15 and i think its just about to jump the last now…absolute pig mate

  101. PeteT 3 years ago

    OK, so massive lesson learned today. Namely

    1) Betfair‘s Sportsbook still apply 5p R4 deductions although most other bookies dont
    2) Check the prices of other runners in a race because if they are NR’s the R4 may be higher with Betfair than other bookies (in this case everyone else had the NR as 10/1 – 12/1 where as Betfair had it as a 11/2 shot which meant a 15p R4 deduction.

    In essence Betfair‘s methods left me £90.25 out of pocket which meant I was a little annoyed to say the least.

    On the flip side, I persevered with betfair, escalated to a manager (the first guy I spoke to was a doughnut he really was) and after clearly explaining my frustrations and why I felt it was unfair that their disproportionate odds on a non runner skewed my bet they agreed to re-calculate with a 5p R4 deduction. Not perfect but every little helps! :)

    Moral of the story
    1) Know the ins and outs of each bookie
    2) If something’s not fair – challenge it
    3) If the person you’re dealing with isn’t great – challenge them to their manager

    Thanks for the advice earlier on John B too – still slightly out of pocket but only by £30 now not £90 and I did get an early price of 11/2 so probably means I’m around about where I would have been with a 5/1 price slightly later

  102. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Not a good day today gunna try Ew patent
    GL ALL

  103. SAV-DOG 3 years ago

    Great stuff thanks dc

  104. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Cheers dc

  105. Kev 3 years ago

    Nice one dc with ur nap :)

  106. double carpet 3 years ago

    Cheers guys
    But for some reason i cant place a bloody bet no matter what firm i go onto. Its driving me mad.
    Hope someone made a few bob out of it anyway
    Will keep trying

  107. Paul Durcan 3 years ago

    Thanks double carpet nice nap

  108. Kev 3 years ago

    To be fair dc if I was a bookie I wouldn’t take your bet :)

  109. Jimron12 3 years ago

    Johnb have your two picks ante post and also solow Muharar jack Hobbs all at nice prices few singles and odd treble thrown in!

    Not that I’ll be sober at ascot tomo but hopefully a good day!

  110. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Keep picking the winners dc al back them forya

  111. double carpet 3 years ago

    Haha kev !!
    Leave it to you to turn the frown upside down !!!

  112. robbo 3 years ago

    whats the nap for sat johnb

  113. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Enjoy your day Jimron finally found the post for richie mccaw cheers

  114. double carpet 3 years ago

    Bloody hell did you see that at downpatrick. Never seen anything like that before. Incredible. Was everyone ok afterwards?

  115. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Thanks Alanm ,Well done DC.

  116. double carpet 3 years ago

    Managed to get on unsinkable. Probably shouldnt have tried. Just a fiver

  117. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Today’s lesson for me
    Believe What You See ,Dark Crescent ….Won
    Not What You Hear,Instinctual ….donkey
    GL All.

  118. double carpet 3 years ago

    Typical !!

  119. double carpet 3 years ago

    And to you too duncan

  120. Duncan Poundcake 3 years ago

    Fire Fighting must have the constitution of ,well ,a horse

  121. Ew thief 3 years ago

    Right am all in
    Back tomorrow gl all

  122. tom 3 years ago

    wolves 8.50 – debating champagne bob.

    What do people reckon, save betting tokens for tomorrow or does anyone else fancy it?

  123. JonnyUTD 3 years ago

    I’ve gone with Scent of Power EW for the 8.50 Tom, due to decent enough form and a good weight allowance thanks to Rob Hornby but it has a wide draw.

    Then again, don’t stick loads on it if you do, as I’ve had a howler today.

  124. tom 3 years ago

    Thankfully I left that race alone.

    I don’t like e/w bets though, had £5 e/w so £10 staked on a @25/1 the other day came 2nd. although its profit, don’t get much of a return.

  125. Jimron12 3 years ago

    Anytime ew thief

    Decent night tonight lads 😉

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