Nov 23: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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IT’S as your were for Johnb after Southwell was abandoned on Tuesday.

Our man remains 42.59pts down for November and both his Wednesday picks are from the Kempton meeting.

Johnb’s Wednesday Tips

Kempton 4:25
Quality Moment 9-2 NAP bet365

6:25
The Big Lad 11-4 NB bet365

Double 19.63-1 bet365

Quality Moment (Nap)
At 9-2 the horse screams value as she probably should be about 2-1 or a lot shorter if she had a run under her belt. The pedigree says she wants 6f or 7f but I have seen her on the gallops and she looks like she could stay this distance this early in her career.
My only doubt would be it’s her first run but she is really well bred and if not in this race she will prove to be far superior to these rivals in time,
If she had a run under her belt then I would have said she was my bet of the year but with this yard on her debut could be the only doubt.

Antepost Tips

1000 Guineas 2017

PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 betfred

2000 Guineas 2017

CHURCHILL 20-1 (now 8-1) bet365

2017 Derby

CHURCHILL 33-1 (now 20-1) racebets

2000 Guineas 2017

BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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  1. Profile photo of Johnb
    Johnb 7 months ago

    Quality Moment at 9/2 screams value as she probably should be about 2/1 or a lot shorter if she had a run under her belt,
    The pedigree says she wants 6f or 7f but I have seen her on the gallops and she looks like she could stay this distance this early in her career,
    My only doubt would be it’s her first run but she is really well bred and if not in this race she will prove to be far superior to these rivals in time,
    If she had a run under her belt then I would have said she was my bet of the year but with this yard on her debut could be the only doubt

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    azzthewigan 7 months ago

    Royal plaza 3.00 nap

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    davyb 7 months ago

    Geraldine 12.30 wol
    lycidas 12.20 wet
    flower of love 3.10 wol
    summersault 4.55 kem
    gl

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      elvis parsley 7 months ago

      Robbing the prey 12-20 wetherby nap 7-2.
      Trainer and jockey going well at the moment.

      Odds on Favourite lycidas won’t go in the forecast ground and yard not had winner in a while.
      Newcomer craggernock will like the ground and could be a danger

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      azzthewigan 7 months ago

      Well done davyb

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    leando 7 months ago

    3.20 Hereford
    Yourholidayisover 6/1

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    trotters 7 months ago

    Test

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    double carpet 7 months ago

    Well done to the winners yesterday. Alanm great stuff with the nap and nb. As for me 12L ahead of the 3rd but beaten 1/2L.
    Onto today

    NAP VIKING MISTRESS 5/13.20 hereford
    NB MIDNIGHT TOUR 9/4 2.45 hereford
    DAVID CRICKET 9/2 1.10 hereford

    Best of luck to all

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    alanm 7 months ago

    One to watch for money fell today tues out again Wed meeting best recent TrainerTim Vaughan and only runner at meeting Viking Mistress 5/1 3.20 Hereford.

    Thanks D/C 😉

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      trotters 7 months ago

      He alan
      Just a question for u.
      I follow u religously on ur naps mostly and uv made me serious cash lately! Thank u😉
      But wud u never do a nap and nb for the same horse! Like to indicate u really really fancy it!
      I never c u do that. But always wonder why! Id probably have the house on it if u did lol

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        alanm 7 months ago

        trotters if you ever see me put up a early Nap that’s my strongest bet. The Nap will always be my 2 pt bet. No house bet’s please. GL

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      seanbhoy 7 months ago

      Non runner mate

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        alanm 7 months ago

        Cheers for that and as you can see hard work does’nt always pay off.

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      7 months ago

      alanm vaughns got 2 in the 3.20 and 2 in the 3.50 only know as ive backed two of them

      cheers

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    trotters 7 months ago

    Ok alan
    Thanks for that

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    7 months ago

    alanm u ripper! thanks for yesterday mate

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    7 months ago

    how ya going johnb? can i ask u your thoughts on black caviar and how good did u europeans rate her? i was lucky enough to see her in the flesh at moone alley in the moir stakes what a beaut she was she looked fit as a mallee bull in the paddock and she didnt disapoint. she even won your diamond jubilee staks with a torn muscle only just mind! crikey i could talk all day about her such great memorys!

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      Johnb 7 months ago

      The older members will know how highly I rated her, she was one of the best ever

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        7 months ago

        wouldnt argue with you there cobber. good to know you guys respected her like we did

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    haggis44 7 months ago

    Fantastic double again yesterday ALAN M,I follow you religiously and your their every day,brilliant tipping,how do you do it?can you give me some inkling?keep it up pal,thanks again

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      alanm 7 months ago

      Haggis search the net there are 1000’s of free tips free then follow research discard to you have about 10 job done or just come on here and get great tipsters and chat daily.

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    geoff50 7 months ago

    Can I ask why you have passed over Burnt Sugar today JohnB?

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      Johnb 7 months ago

      Like the other two a lot more today, Burnt Sugar is being ridden the wrong way that style definitely won’t work today and there is no guarantee they will change it

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    bazz4nik 7 months ago

    Viking mistress is a non runner D.C. & alanm

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    punterpounder 7 months ago

    Midnight tour is a non-runner :(

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    haggis44 7 months ago

    Your NAP And NB are non runners DC,are you using Davy cricket as your NAP?

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    haggis44 7 months ago

    Thanks Alan,I will stick to you guys I have also been listening to the racing post potcast every weekend,Paul kealy and guests,very good they throw the winners in?quite entertaining aswell!but not as good as the lads on this site!brilliant

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    alanm 7 months ago

    NAP Craggaknock 4/1 12.20 Wetherby
    NB Indirocco 3/1 1.55 Wetherby
    EW Berlusca 5/1 3.40 Wolverhampton GL

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    on the bob 7 months ago

    Disappointing yesterday with my nap falling at the first. Novices for you.

    Just 1 so far today.

    Nap: kemp 7.25 bommerang bob 6/1

    GL and thanks for the good tips being put up.

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    harryjw 7 months ago

    Morning all,

    Wednesday looks a tricky day but I have picked out a few small stake bets for some interest.

    12.30 Wolverhampton – Geraldine 11/4

    Geraldine made the impressive there was more to come last time at Chelmsford, the winner and runner up got first run on her and she had to be switched late on, yet still ran on strongly for a closing third. The winner of that race reposes again today but is much worse of at the weights. If Martin Harley can get his fractions right, there is no reason why this daughter of royal applause can’t make amends today. There is no reason why the Wovlverhampton surface wont suit after winning in good style at Kempton 2 starts back where she showed a good turn of food to mow down her opposition. While she ran that day of 56 her mark of 60 looks well within reach and I am hopeful of a big run.

    12.40 Hereford – Tommy Rapper 3/1

    Not seen since finishing runner up twice on soft ground last season, Tommy Rapper looks to have a good chance today in the 12.40. Making his hurdles debut today over just short of 2 and a half miles this promising son of milan looks sure to improve this season. In both of his starts last season he finished well clear of the rest of the field in second staying on towards the end giving the impressive this step up in trip will suit. The softer ground at Hereford will be perfect and with Bridget Andrews taking off a handy 3lbs, the 3/1 on offer this morning looks like decent value.

    3.00 Wetherby – Tap Night 12/1 EW

    Tap night has been sitting in my tracker for about 3 years now. I was at Ayr when he won a handicap chase and have kept an eye on him ever since. Since that run in 2013 he has been sent off at a short price for a number of big handicap races, and even finished runner up in a grade 1 race. Subsequently, he has lost his way but he did manage to get his head in front this time last year in a class 3 at Musselburgh. Today, however, will be the first time he has run in a class 4 since his Ayr win in 2013, he also has Blair Campbell in the saddle taking off 7lbs – basically he won’t get many better chances than today to get back to winning ways. With a race under his belt this year already I am hopeful Tap Night can put up a bold showing today and at least reward each way money.

    6.55 Kempton – Star Storm 3/1 NAP

    Star Storm looks to hold every chance in the listed wild flower stakes tonight at Kempton. This colt out of sea the stars ran really well on his all-weather debut over C&D last time finishing a close second to the talented western hymn and there is no reason why he can’t go one better tonight. In 2015 he landed the Cumberland lodge (group 3) at Ascot to complete a hat trick of impressive wins but has failed to really build on that this season but he has held really high company – even competing in the coronation cup. Yet, the speed figure he recorded last time showed that his last run is up there with the best of his form and when you add in the recent form of James Fanshawe Star Storm looks an outstanding bet at 3/1.

    Thanks and GL all

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    7 months ago

    hi everyone firstly well done alanm yesterday nice double and dont give a donald with one

    just posted on yesterdays thread by mistake while i was reading it

    W 2.05 X Rated
    W 2.35 Trishuli Rock nb
    W 3.10 Zeehan nap
    W 3.40 Berlusca

    Good luck everyone

    Happy Days

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    azzthewigan 7 months ago

    Catching shadows 12.50 nb well done all winners yesterday

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    double carpet 7 months ago

    Thanks for letting me know guys.
    Havent had time to look at anything else so just the one bet today
    GL all

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    ew thief 7 months ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday nice double Alanm
    Eurystheus 3.40w 10/1
    Desert strike 4.10w 7/1
    Showtime blues 4.55k 7/1
    Tagula night 6.25k 14/1
    Prince of arran 6.55k 10/1
    Related 7.25k 11/2
    Ew singles & ew lucky63 🍀GL all

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    ciaran1988 7 months ago

    12.30 Wolves – Geraldine 3/1
    2.35 Wolves – Shahabad 13/8

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    punterpounder 7 months ago

    my eachway bests for today

    e/w treble (£2.50 e/w)

    12.30 wolves- Geraldine 5/2

    4.25 Kempton- quiet moment 6/1

    5.55 Kempton – al reeh 5/4

    each way 4 fold (£2.50 e/w)

    1.00 wolves- orithia 15/8

    2.05 wolves- oxford thinking 11/8

    2.35 wolves- Shahabad 11/8

    3.00 Wetherby – royal plaza 4/5

    total staked: £10

    placed instore @Ladbrokes on fobt

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    jimron12 7 months ago

    Round robin today

    Fraser canyon 3.50 nap 3/1
    Catching shadows 12.50 5/2
    Jb nap now 6/1

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    jimron12 7 months ago

    Nice alanm 👍

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    theplug 7 months ago

    NAP/NB MAY HAY 2-45 HERE 5/1

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    jazzerbhoy 7 months ago

    Small interest today only as Celtic park has all my attention today.
    Stoute/ Gibbons combination has been good over the past few weeks they team up in the 1.30 and after running green the last time, Ghand it may show up better 14/1 decent ew shout.
    The other one is sexton Blake for GMoore in the 4.55 Kempton again at 7/1 has decent ew claims.
    Good luck to to you all today. Cmon you bhoys in Green.

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    alanm 7 months ago

    Well done harry punterpounder ciaran great start today guys :)

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    jimron12 7 months ago

    Should of known with him on board and now I’m against him in the next haha

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    7 months ago

    strewth alanm nap won again. good onya mucker

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    on the bob 7 months ago

    Had a chance to look a little more so here are my bets today:

    Nap: kemp 7.25 boomerang bob 6/1
    NB: wolves 2.30 trishuli rock 3/1

    Wolves 2.05 jive talking 11/4
    Kemp 5.25 roman navigator 13/2
    Kemp 5.55 sentinal 11/1 e/w

    GL

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    7 months ago

    just got in from 6 – 2 to see BOZZ get his first one in and ALANM with a nice nap as well

    cheers guys

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    7 months ago

    done a lucky 15 of my own

    keepin time 3.30 we
    fraser canyon 3.50 h
    knights reward 3.20 h
    regal miss 4.10 wo

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    7 months ago

    g’day fellas one for later
    BOOMERANG BOB 7.25 kempton park 7-1 nap

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    punterpounder 7 months ago

    that midnight tour the NON-RUNNER just won….. smh

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      punterpounder 7 months ago

      i saw dc was on so i looked at it and on the fobt this morning it came up as a non runner so i couldnt get on :(

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    7 months ago

    punterpounder it was you who said it was a non runner ?

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      7 months ago

      i wont use those fobt the odds always seem worse

      cheers

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        punterpounder 7 months ago

        yeah i think i will write the bet out next time i only use the betsation fobt machines as its more convenient than waiting in line whilst someone sticks £10 on the last minute greyhound race whilst another wants to shout at the staff over something petulant.

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    double carpet 7 months ago

    Nice to see a non runner win. Certainly one for the books.
    Well done again alanm bozz harry and any others and gl if you have any more to run

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    jim burnside 7 months ago

    Normally I stick to footy but got great info there fr FLOWER OF LOVE 3.10 WOLVERHAMPTON. I know the moneys on.

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    7 months ago

    JIM well done thanks for sharing

    cheers

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    jim burnside 7 months ago

    Cheers guys I get some great info but not a lot of time to share bcos I only evr get told aftr money is on.which is fair enuf.u can understand why though.

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    7 months ago

    first one knights reward wins only did when i saw vaughn take his other runner viking mistress out leaving this one in the same race

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    punterpounder 7 months ago

    well now its time for jhonbs nap and at 5/1 its a tough task

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    davyb 7 months ago

    Get in there sumersault 3 out 4 good day wd all with winners

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    theplug 7 months ago

    AL REEH
    MORE BEAU
    HENRY GRACE
    ALL KEMPTON

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    7 months ago

    flamin drongo

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    spursman 7 months ago

    KEMPTON 6.55 CLIFF FACE 18/1 E/W

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    harryjw 7 months ago

    What on earth was tom queally doing there??

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    rookie 7 months ago

    Sticking with
    14.10 T Buffalo sabre 12/1 with BV
    Many of u will know this gave us a 100/1 place in it last race
    And also
    15.15 T Signed request 8/1

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    Johnb 7 months ago

    November 45.59pts down

    Thursday’s Tips

    Towcester
    3:15
    Texas Forever 3/1 NAP bet365

    Chelmsford City
    5:25
    Cercle D’or 11/2 NB betvictor

    6:25
    King Cole 11/2 bet365

    Also 3x 0.5pt doubles & 1x 0.5pt treble

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