Nov 17: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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JOHNB drew a blank with his sole Wednesday tip so it was 2pts lost on the joint Nap/NB.

He’s now 32.84pts down for the month and has an each-way double among his Thursday picks.

Johnb’s Thursday Tips

Market Rasen 3:10
Amiral Collonges 9-2 NAP bet365

Newcastle 3:35
Royal Normandy 28-1 NB skybet

0.5pt eachway double 144/1 skybet

Antepost Tips

1000 Guineas 2017

PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 betfred

2000 Guineas 2017

CHURCHILL 20-1 (now 8-1) bet365

2017 Derby

CHURCHILL 33-1 (now 20-1) racebets

2000 Guineas 2017

BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

68 Comments
  1. Profile photo of harryjw
    harryjw 3 weeks ago

    Evening all,

    After a good day today (yesterday) I’m off in the search of value again tomorrow. With the racing looking tough I will be playing small again.

    1.35 Clonmel – Missypet 20/1 EW

    A chance is taken on missypet at clonmel tomorrow. She has never looked a natural over fences, returning to hurdles tomorrow off a handy mark she looks overpriced at 20/1. Back in 2014 she was tried in a listed bumper before landing back to back hurdle wins at fairyhouse in an impressive manor, after rising in the weights she was sent chasing and while she posted some respectable efforts and maybe would have won if not unseating at the last 2 starts back she failed to record a sound round of jumping. Running off basement weight on her season reappearance I can’t resist a few quid each way.

    2.25 Newcastle – Galilee Chapel 11/1 EW NB

    It’s about time the consistent Galilee Chapel was given another crack over a mile and a half. I have always had him down as wanting further, even when winning over 10f 2 starts back he required every yard of the trip. I was surprised to see him over a mile last time at Newcastle and after some trouble in running 4f out he was switched wide and came home like a train to grab 3rd. While his handicap mark has been sneaking up this season Garry Whillans takes over in the saddle taking 5lb off his back and I feel he is open to further improvement over this trip, hopefully leading to a big run tomorrow.

    3.00 Newcastle – Maulesden May 4/1 EW

    Maulesden May has improved for the switch to the all weather on her last two starts. Running respectably on her surface debut finishing a close 4 she then improved again last time running an odds on southern raider within a length (front two well clear). She travelled well into her race that day and off the same mark today I am hopeful of her getting her head in front for a second time. Due to the competitive nature of this race I will be playing each way.

    3.10 Market Rasen – I Just Know 9/4 NAP

    I Just Know went straight into my note book on chasing debut last time at Hexham. The 6yo scopey gelding left his hurdle form behind jumping superbly upfront (barring a mistake when idling at the last) quickening away to win by 10 lengths. He has been raised 9lb for that victory but this still could well be in his reach if building on that success for his in form yard. 9/4 looks a good value price and I would expect him to go off shorter tomorrow.

    Thanks and GL all

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      elvis parsley 3 weeks ago

      Royal Normandy last 5 runs
      The last 3 being at this very venue

      14th of 14
      13th of 13
      10th of 14
      14th of 14
      10th of 10

      On November 4th he raced against a good few of today’s cpposition, finishing about 50 lengths behind the winner, the race report said he was tailed off after 4 (four) furlongs and eased down and is similarly treated weightwise today.

      Any chance of any reasoning here John please.
      If I follow you on this I will be backing it without any confidence which is not good.
      Cheers !!!

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        elvis parsley 3 weeks ago

        Forgot to add the 3 recent efforts were his only runs for his new trainer Roger fell.
        His previous owner only had him for 3 races which isn’t promising.

        He performed a fair bit better up to the end of 2015 for 1st owner Andrew balding
        on bare form since mr balding must have been glad he parted company.

        I’m certainly no Statto on racing, nowhere near John b that’s for sure, but for the life of me I’m struggling for an angle to back this.

        Cue royal Normandy to win by 10 lengths, lol…….

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    alanm 3 weeks ago

    NAP Duke Street 3/1 2.05 Market Rasen
    NB Parnassian 7/1 12.50 Newcastle GL

    Well done Harry nice tipping.

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    ciaran1988 3 weeks ago

    12.50 Newcastle – Kananee 7/4
    1.25 Newcastle – Spanish City 13/8
    4.40 Chelmsford – Geraldine 9/2

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    davyb 3 weeks ago

    spring fling 1.25 nc
    sunglider 1.55 nc
    taopix 2.25 nc
    impassioned 4.40 ch
    gl

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    leando 3 weeks ago

    2.35 Mar Ras

    McCabe Creek 10/1

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    duncanpoundcake 3 weeks ago

    I have read there may only be 2 SP bookmakers at Newcastle today GL.

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    leando 3 weeks ago

    1.15 winc

    Let’s go Duchess 11/2

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    gengar 3 weeks ago

    12.50 Nuclear Power 5/2 nap/nb
    1.25 Spanish City 6/4
    2.35 Walking In The Air 7/4
    7.00 Invade 8/1

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    on the bob 3 weeks ago

    Had a good look while on the train today and 2 take my fancy.

    Nap Newcastle 12.20 holmeswood 5/4

    NB Chelmsford 6.25 baddilini 12/1 e/w

    Others a liked but ended up skipping were:

    New 12.50 nuclear power 5/2
    Clonmel 1.35 coolmill 16/1

    GL

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    bozz 3 weeks ago

    Hi everyone

    well done all the winners yesterday.

    N 1.55 Sunglider 9/4
    N 4.10 Faintly 11/2 nb
    C 5.50 Regal Dan 9/2 nap

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Royal Normandy 3.35 28/1
    Darloa 1.15 33/1
    Petrify 4.00 22/1
    Galilee chapel 2.25 13/1

    Small ew lucky 15. Never know.

    My nap is looking likely non runner as rain has arrived and then some do be wary

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    harryjw 3 weeks ago

    Morning,

    I though it was time to post some profit/loss stats. I have tried my best to keep my points system as close to my real staking pattern, so each normal bet posted has been counted at either 1.5 points win or 0.75 points each way, but for my stronger bets (these will be stated as increased stake bets) these are 15points win or 7.5points each way.

    As I have stated my style of gambling is to increase my bet on horses that meet my set requirements.

    So since my first tip on the site on the 5th November I am in profit 65.20points. While this is made up of 50.62 points from my 2 increased stakes bets my smaller selections still account for 14.58 points of profit.

    Let’s hope it continues like this!

    I have also noticed that bussstop has been on a fantastic run lately and his profit stats must be impressive as well!

    Let’s bash those bookies

    GL

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    dougiec 3 weeks ago

    Morning all.
    Nap..Hidden Gem..7.30..Chelmsford
    Nb….Walking In The Air 2.35.. Market Rasen,and throw in Burton Well..2.50 Wincanton..
    Gl today

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    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    Golconda King 12,20 ferry ferret girl 12.35 red pike 1.20 foundation man 3.10 and backed to small priced horses for a change .no comment 1.00 nap kananee 12.50 nb let’s see how this pans out

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    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    Derrygereen girl 12.35 bloody spell checker

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    uksevern 3 weeks ago

    great post harry…

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    Johnb 3 weeks ago

    Just so people know, the Fell yard was one of the yards I visited to look at horses, Royal Normandy was one horse that I noticed to be working well at home but had not had conditions to suit in races,
    A few of the horses runs can be ignored because of this and his last run ended in just a training session as he was unruly before the race, banged his head at the start and all chance was lost so was just given a hands and heals race

    As for today’s Nap, this horse has by far the best chase form and it’s been a long wait for me to see this horse return to chasing,
    The handicapper has seriously underestimated this horse but my only worry is the trainers form

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    ew thief 3 weeks ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    Dougiec busstop harryjw cairan & anyone AV missed. Cheers for the comments lads couldn’t get back on
    Mappin time 1.25n 18/1
    Galilee chapel 2.25n 17/2
    Cusheen bridge 2.35m 12/1
    Heart locket 3.00n 9/1
    Thorntoun lady 3.35n 15/2
    Ew singles & ew lucky31🍀GL all

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    tipsultan 3 weeks ago

    Clonmel

    2.10- Alelchi Inois (NAP)
    3.15- Tisamystery (NB)
    Wincanton

    12.40- Golden Birthday

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    busstop 3 weeks ago

    Afternoon all

    Wincanton

    14.15 JACKTHEJOURNEYMAN .. 11/4

    14.50 THE COFFEE HUNTER .. 12/1 .. E/W

    16.00 MIRACLE CURE .. 4/1 ..

    Market Rasen

    13.30 AUNTY ANN .. 5/1 ..

    14.05 BIG CHIEF BENNY .. 7/2..

    gl all

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    haggis44 3 weeks ago

    Any NAP and NB please busstop?

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    jazzerbhoy 3 weeks ago

    Busstop what’s the nap m8 good luck

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    busstop 3 weeks ago

    Betting them to level stakes today but if pushed MIRACLE CURE NAP ,JACKTHEJOURNEYMAN NB

    gl

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    ew thief 3 weeks ago

    Well done azz & cairan

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    recoba 3 weeks ago

    Usual Yankee on and a single and double with Johns NAP and…

    Geraldine…4.40 9/2

    GL gents 👍

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    theplug 3 weeks ago

    gengar im sorry i did not put up the name of the horse last night did not know till i was told a few minutes ago to late now but the horse was rathnure rebel 8/1 just got the result now he won at 7/2 i did not get to back him myself fixing a washing machine

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    kev 3 weeks ago

    Thought old darloa was looking good there jimron! God knows what happened to him two out, don’t think he finished 🙈 Onwards

  28. Profile photo of azzthewigan
    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    That panned out well we have lift off

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    theplug 3 weeks ago

    spanish city
    sebastians wish
    hard toffee
    bay mirage
    cliff
    all at newcastle

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    kev 3 weeks ago

    Nice start azz with the double. Backed that myself

  31. Profile photo of jimron12
    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Thought darloa was going well till that second last could of maybe got third without that mistake decent maybe over a tad shorter

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    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    Cheers keg ew thief having a bit of trouble posting

  33. Profile photo of azzthewigan
    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    Kev

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    hamish75 3 weeks ago

    Johnb a hope it wisny the wrong mr fell horse winner at 20s al hav a go wi ur pick n hope that’s mr fells winter feed paid for well dun ti aw the winners ktf

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      Johnb 3 weeks ago

      Not surprised it won as there are some that have looked well at home

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    kev 3 weeks ago

    Davyb great pick with taopix and unlucky those with Galilee chapel

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    azzthewigan 3 weeks ago

    Well done all winners today ilsithey

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    uksevern 3 weeks ago

    busstop.. hands and heels winner 5/1.. great

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    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Petrify places at 33/1 saves the day!!

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    ew thief 3 weeks ago

    Nice nap busstop keeps the roll going 👍

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    jazzerbhoy 3 weeks ago

    Well done busstop ew thief azalea tip sultan etc sorry if I missed any of you out not my intention.
    Tricky day by the looks of it one for me only tonight
    Uncle Dermot 20/1 7.00 race Chelmsford think they actually may have found a race for this yin. Here’s hoping but hoping to at least nab a place. Good luck.

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      spurs55 3 weeks ago

      jazzer 7.30 uncle dermot going with that and oak bluffs in the 7.00 race

      gla

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        spurs55 3 weeks ago

        was 20-1 now 12s on oak bluffs

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        jazzerbhoy 3 weeks ago

        Yes sorry m8, think even if he started at 7 .00 he still wouldn’t have been in the top 3 at 7.30 race.
        Well done to all the winners today.
        Good luck tomorrow

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    dougiec 3 weeks ago

    Ditto to those mentioned by jazzer.Posts all see to be under consideration then dissappear, One more for GOOJ Marshal Aid
    gl

  42. Profile photo of jimron12
    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    One more for me in the 7.30 midnight gem/uncle dermot forecast 👍

  43. Profile photo of ew thief
    ew thief 3 weeks ago

    Gunna try a rfc 5,8
    8.00c GL all

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    rale 3 weeks ago

    Any idea why is D Russel riding Skelton’s Welsh Shadow at Haydok 2:35, when Harry Skelton is riding all other races for his brother at the meeting?

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    duncanpoundcake 3 weeks ago

    Another nice young horse doesn’t make it home ,Walking in the Air ,been a hard few weeks for racing GL.

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    Johnb 3 weeks ago

    November 35.84pts down

    Fridays Tips

    2:10
    Thomas Campbell 5/4 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

    Newcastle
    4:15
    Hotfill 11/2 bet365

    Double 13.63/1 bet365

    Two horse that made the shortlist but not recommended Tips are

    Ascot 1:35 Qualando 6/1
    Newcastle 6:15 Arctic Angel 3/1

    Anyone wanting to play safer on Qualando can get 15/8 betvictor without the 4/7 favourite Different Gravey

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    ciaran1988 3 weeks ago

    1 for tomoro

    4.15 Newcastle – Beautiful Escape 2/1

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