MAR 21: JOHNB’S RACING TIPS AND CHAT

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IT was three points lost for JohnB on Friday so his March profit is still a healthy 35.98 points.

On to Saturday’s action and JohnB says: “I think I have a good nap for Saturday and a good one the bookies have missed.”

JohnB’s Saturday Tips

Newbury 2:00
PERSIAN SNOW 11-1 Bet365 William Hill

3:10
MASTER NEO 12-1 NAP Bet365

3:45
STORM FORCE TEN 7-2 Bet365

Kelso 2:15
SUN CLOUD 6-1 NB Bet365

Double
MASTER NEO & SUN CLOUD 90-1 Bet365

Good luck folks and post your tips and chat here.

154 Comments
  1. Alanm 2 years ago

    first

  2. Alanm 2 years ago

    lol on the outside and sweeps past the field poor D/C has to wait a bit longer. teehee

  3. double carpet 2 years ago

    Alanm

    Your not coming to my birthday party and not getting any cake either

  4. De Niro 2 years ago

    lol

  5. Alanm 2 years ago

    Sorry D/C :) lol

  6. Rookie 2 years ago

    Christmas card dc?

  7. Rookie 2 years ago

    You snooze you lose DC!

  8. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Haha

  9. gus 2 years ago

    DC
    at least you made the frame.
    if the handicapper drops you a couple of pounds you’ve gotta go close next time

  10. Hamish75 2 years ago

    Alanm hang ur head in shame dc is very upset n it’s ur fav cake he’s got fir his biffday n ur no gettin a bit ktf

  11. De Niro 2 years ago

    13-25 Newbury
    Hassle 9/4 nap

    15-25 Kelso
    Oscar Rock 2/1

    15-45 Newbury
    Storm Force Ten 5/2 nb

    Win Trixie – feel they are all very strong today :-)

  12. double carpet 2 years ago

    i thought i had all the angles covered but one slips through the net. i will come up with a fool proof plan and once i achieve 1st then its world domination (Dr Evil laugh)!!
    Ill get you alanm if its the last thing i do !!

  13. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    A cunning plan eh! Baldrick ,if anyone is watching Million Pound Drop ,I’m growing a beard.

  14. Kev 2 years ago

    Had a whack on you being placed dc. Get in son :)

  15. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Master Neo Now 7/1

  16. double carpet 2 years ago

    Ill settle for CURLEY LARRY and MOE’s number at this stage swany !!

    But at least as the lads say i got a place and tomorrow im off the same weight and alanm is up 7lbs so i should take him.

  17. swany 2 years ago

    Time to reach for the sheepskin cheekpieces and a good 7lb claimer dc.

  18. bigbobs63 2 years ago

    two singles and double for Jonnyb nap – nb

  19. tbone 2 years ago

    Booom 26/1 6 to place acca finally comes in. 10er on. Good luck tomorrow lads

  20. Alanm 2 years ago

    testing D/C LOL

  21. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Well done T Bone,Superb.

  22. Smackeroonies 2 years ago

    2.35 newb. Twentytwo’s taken 7/1 nap
    3.45 newb. Lil rockerfella. 6/1 nb

    Good luck.

  23. tbone 2 years ago

    Cheers poundcake

  24. double carpet 2 years ago

    Haha alanm

  25. dougiec 2 years ago

    Yellow card,keep them B….ms,for over 8/1 single 1 small one allowed!! or return to the 4/7 8/13 crowd. No offence but but Virus free thread

  26. swany 2 years ago

    Bang 4-45 A Vos Gardes nap

  27. dougiec 2 years ago

    Just glad you won a few bob tbone,!!

  28. tbone 2 years ago

    Thanks. Wow master neo.is 6/1 how can the price come in from 12s in under 2 hours :(

    • Punting For Fun 2 years ago

      tbone dunno how it really works but looking at oddschecker master neo was 12/1 at 14:27 then 9/1 at 16:57 then 8/1 at 17:09 then 7/1 at 18:10 then 6/1 at 19:11.

      As i say i dunno how it works or how accurate these are based on the oddschecker times, maybe some of the regular horse punters can explain.

  29. swany 2 years ago

    Kelso 3-25 Oscar Rock nb

    Kelso 4-35 The Cobbler Swayne

  30. Alanm 2 years ago

    D/C 7LB? NOT THINK I WAS CARRYING ENOUGH ALREADY.:)

  31. andrew dodd 2 years ago

    Good Evening. I have had a strong word for Star Presenter in the 2-30 at Fontwell. John B have you any thoughts on this race, thank you very much

  32. double carpet 2 years ago

    Tbone
    hes still 8/1 with pp

  33. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Thats the one Swany N/R Thursday . Banker .GL.

  34. Alanm 2 years ago

    Nap Pepite Rose 7/2 2.00 Newbury
    with johnb Nap 6/1
    DOUBLE PAYS 30/1
    Good luck all

  35. double carpet 2 years ago

    Swany
    on that too mate

  36. Rookie 2 years ago

    Tbone it is what is known as ‘The JohnB effect’. Johnb posts on here everyone sees and backs it. Hence the price collapsing.

  37. Rookie 2 years ago

    Which one is the banker duncan?

  38. Punting For Fun 2 years ago

    I have not really concentrated on horses for a while and i used to like trying the place markets since i thought that was the best chance for me to get some winners. So just for a change of betting from footy i am going to see if i can hit any sort of run from betting the places on betfair.

    1st up is Milansbar 14:50 Kelso 15/8 to be placed.

    2nd up is Golden Doyen 15:45 Newbury 15/8 to be placed.

    3rd up is The Unit 16:20 Newbury 11/10 to be placed.

    Will do a small stake e/w treble as well with bet 365 giving these odds so far.

    7/1

    8/1

    6/1

  39. double carpet 2 years ago

    Rookie
    A VOS GARDES

    • bad jasper 2 years ago

      Foryourinformation met a vos gardes here in a bumper in Nov 2013.
      Vos gardes won by a head
      But vos gardes was getting a 16 pound weight pull, today they race off level weights.
      No brainer, foryourinformation to beat vos gardes in matchbet

  40. Yves 2 years ago

    Fontwell 3.40
    Hi Note 9/2 nap

    Kelso 2.50
    Landecker 25/1 ew

    LLAP

  41. double carpet 2 years ago

    Swany
    was about to put up OSCAR ROCK but i see you have that up too. Your worse than Alanm !!
    Anyway im on that too but one you havent put up that i also like is STORM FORCE TEN 3.45 newbury
    jesus you have to be quick off the mark here lately !!
    Now for some footy studying
    gl all

  42. KOI 2 years ago

    Sharney sike 215 kelso
    landecker 250 kelso
    Gluk all..

  43. peter Amoss 2 years ago

    nigel hawkes only runner is Master neo
    Stable is in top form, 12/1 bargain of the day, 6/1 still attractive

  44. rookie26 2 years ago

    Storm force ten is in the tips.. I’m on Oscar rock ,storm force ten double

  45. recoba1980 2 years ago

    44th! Ew but so al take it. Big field it maybe a record?

  46. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Hi can anyone explain to me the difference in a bet for a horse to place, and a tote place bet please?

    Thanks

  47. tbone 2 years ago

    Yea i understand. I wish i knew them a day before so i could back and lay everyday for profit lol

  48. johnb 2 years ago

    Master Neo (NAP)
    Pulled up on his last two runs but there are excuses
    last time out he did run well enough until weakening late on in the heavy ground and the run before that was just one run too many in a short space of time.
    in november when he was fresh he won at Market Rasen by 20 lengths and was rated 116
    6 days later he went to cheltenham and ran a cracker and anything close to that cheltenham run would win this race today,
    He was 4th in a grade 3 handicap, the winner was Sam Winner, 2nd was The Druids Nephew and 3rd was Saint Are
    that day Master Neo finished ahead of horses like The Package, Cape Tribulation & Safran De Cotte.

    Master Neo has now been given a break and should benefit for that
    he is now down to just 1lb above that last winning mark but how do we know that Master Neo can reproduce that cheltenham run
    we dont but there are a couple of factors that suggest he will, the break which i have already mentioned but most importantly the trainer form,
    Is there another trainer with form to match Nigel Hawke?
    He has had 9 runners this month
    6 winners
    1 3rd a 15th and a faller

    I am probably sticking my neck out with this one but i know i can see something in a race that the bookies cant and i like what i see with Master Neo

  49. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Great write up as always JohnB

  50. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Sorry lads on reflection Banker was a silly thing to say but A Vos Gardes
    has the best recent form and is proven on the ground ,so I should really just have said Nap GL.

  51. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    RobRoy If you bet with bookmaker you can take the price at the time or the starting price but The Tote is a pool betting system, which means that all the stake money on a particular type of bet on a particular race gets pooled together and then divided out to the winners after deductions are made. For example, if £5,000 is staked on win bets in the 3.20 at Southwell, then the pool of prize money will be £5,000. The Tote takes a deduction from this pool to cover their costs of running the bets and their contributions to horse racing, this depends on the bet type but is somewhere around 15%. So after this deduction there is £4,250 in the prize pool (£5,000 minus 15%). After the race is run it turns out that £880 was staked on the winner. The prize pool (£4,250) is divided by the £880 of winning stake money, which works out at a return of £4.83 for every £1 staked. So someone who bet £5 on that winning horse will receive £24.15 including their stake back, so the final odds work out at just under 4/1. This might be lower than the odds offered through traditional fixed odds bookmakers, or sometimes it might be higher…it just depends on the luck of the draw and what the majority of the people chose at the Tote that day.Hope this helps GL

  52. Rookie 2 years ago

    Too late now duncan. House remortgaged!

  53. peter Amoss 2 years ago

    nice write up johnb

  54. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Thanks a lot Duncan :)

  55. bobo 2 years ago

    Main bet today

    SCORPIONANCER 150b

    Next best

    STAR PRESENTER 230f

    Third best

    PERSIAN SNOW 200n

    Good luck today guys

  56. Black&red14 2 years ago

    Urcalin 3.50 Stratford @16/1 e/w gl

  57. davyb 2 years ago

    nap storm force ten 345 nb racing europe 250 kel freckle face 300 ban ew

  58. WESLEY WEST 2 years ago

    Very informative write up john, shows your great knowlege of racing. It has filled me with great confidence. Look forward to seeing how the race pans out. Wesley.

  59. Saint93 2 years ago

    Newbury 2:35 – Briery Belle 20/1 E/W

  60. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Anybody be got any thoughts on the 2.35 at Newbury? I see a recent favourite of ours ‘Cresswell Breeze’ is in it at 16/1 but it’s obviously a huge step up in class

  61. dougiec 2 years ago

    Well just looking for a profit today,
    NAP..SPOOKEYDOOKEY..2.50..Kelso
    NB…VENGEUR DE GUYE..4.00..Kelso
    EW…HANNAHS PRINCESS..2.35..Newbury
    GL All

  62. Mitch Tenerife 2 years ago

    Rob Roy AP put his £100 charity bet on morning line on Sparten Angel.2-35 newb.

  63. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Thanks Mitch

  64. BRoper91 2 years ago

    3.10 Financial Climate

  65. KOI 2 years ago

    Johnb whats your thoughts on cressweell breeze today please, respect…

  66. De Niro 2 years ago

    to add to the three selections win and trixie posted last night

    14-00 Newbury split stake win bet
    Rebel Rebellion 13/2 70 %
    Carrigmorna King 14/1 30 %

    15-10 Newbury split stake win bet
    Carruthers 8/1 30%
    Financial Climate 6/1 70%

  67. Hoof hearted 2 years ago

    JOHN B do ya think creswell breeze has a chance today won me alot of money his past 3 runs

  68. garfo 2 years ago

    Nobody talks to garfo!!! Todays select.=star presenter.take the mick.jay are.discoverie.Lucky 15.chow.

  69. double carpet 2 years ago

    Morning all

    Just going to add a couple of EW bets that take my fancy

    SAMSTOWN 14/1 2.50 kelso
    HARRY HUNT 7/1 3.50 stratford
    and dougies HANNAHS PRINCESS

    Off out for the day so best of luck to all

  70. swany 2 years ago

    Be careful dc,it’s bad out there!

  71. Gaz R "The Juicer" 2 years ago

    Kings Tempest/Hassle..RFC 125New

    Spartan Angel 5/1 New..Will love galloping track

    Wee ftba double

    Leeds/Hibernian(Tomorrow)

    Lets get Juicing!!!!!!!!

  72. dougiec 2 years ago

    Sorry Garfo thought it was Garfield and I dont normally speak to dogs,without Taking the Mick

  73. george 2 years ago

    A few at Newbury:

    2.00 – O Maonlai 5/1 EW
    2.35 – Spartan Angel 4/1 EW
    3.10 – Handy Andy 8/1 EW
    3.45 – Golden Doyen 7/1 EW
    4.20 – Criq Rock 9/1 EW
    4.55 – Village Vic 6/4

  74. Gus 2 years ago

    2.35 Newbury

    Briery Belle 22/1 EW SJ

  75. Alanm 2 years ago

    Nap2 late one 4.00 Kelso Uno Valoroso 4/1
    Good luck all.

  76. johnb 2 years ago

    For anyone wondering about Cresswell Breeze
    this horse has been good to us but i cant tip just for that reason
    the handicapper has hammered Cresswell raising the horse 18lb for that last win & up 32lb since i first tipped the horse
    Yes the horse is good enough to win off this mark but with the drier conditions also against the horse i don think its a good enough bet today

  77. Alanm 2 years ago

    Nap2 late one 4.00 Kelso Uno Valoroso 4/1
    Good luck all.

  78. TheHawk 2 years ago

    NAP Roll The Dice 3.15 Strat
    NB The Unit 4.20 Newb
    For Trixie Ballyvouque 4.35 Kelso

    Good Luck All

  79. GREGGE 2 years ago

    I fancy e/w NAP..

    2.35 NEWBURY
    TARA MIST @ 9/1 e/w 1/4odds 4places

    Gdluck!

  80. ew thief 2 years ago

    Endeavor 1.45k
    Rons dream 2.35n
    Handy andy 3.10n
    Patent gl all

  81. Lee Holland 2 years ago

    Any one help me .yesterday I done a £1 round robin stake £20 I had a 8/1 winner a 6/1 3rd and a 7/2 third and was played £37:46 it don’t sound right can anyone tell me if that was the right return thank you

    • Profile photo of Mr Fixit
      Mr Fixit 2 years ago

      Lee Holland, looks correct to me – it’s maybe unfair but even with three winners you get four places. Your winners might as well have come second.

  82. Lee Holland 2 years ago

    £1 Each Way sorry forgot to say EW

  83. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Lee should be about double that, contact the bookie and ask them mate GL

  84. Punting For Fun 2 years ago

    Would some of the (if not all) main men on here look at my horses to be placed and give me some feedback on the selections to be placed.

    Also any info on how you all pinpoint your selections would be appreciated always good to get some idea how others approach horse picks.

  85. Mav 2 years ago

    Happy saturday lads :-)

    feeling really tender after being put last night lol. Posted my footie tip yest so heres my horses

    1.25 Newb – Hassle 7/4 NAP
    2.00 Newb – Petite Rose 11/4
    3.25 Kels – Oscar Rock 7/4
    3.45 Newb – Gail Force Ten 7/4 NB

    4 fold pays 77/1 good luck

  86. Mav 2 years ago

    Bummer lol

  87. De Niro 2 years ago

    BOOM !!!!

  88. De Niro 2 years ago

    7/1 EASY DOES IT !!!

    REBEL RBELLION

  89. WN 2 years ago

    What a load of crap that was, jockey never gave the horse a chance.

  90. Saint93 2 years ago

    Agreed WN, can’t stand it when jockeys hold the horse up so much out the back.

  91. The taxman 2 years ago

    That mistake at the water john looks to have sealed the fate. You never know!

  92. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Not good so far from master Neo

  93. David mc 2 years ago

    No think it needs put down poor thing

  94. De Niro 2 years ago

    BOOM !!!! & BOOM AGAIN :-)

    Carruthers 8/1

  95. JP 2 years ago

    Top lad de niro – missed ur first….wasnt making the same mistake! Cheers

  96. De Niro 2 years ago

    Got to love the nags !!! :-)

    Get In !!!

  97. David mc 2 years ago

    Did master bro even finish the race ??

  98. JP 2 years ago

    And everyone on here loves de niros tips!! :)

  99. RobRoy 2 years ago

    Nice tips De Niro!

  100. Hamish75 2 years ago

    Brilliant de niro great stuff sorry ye only get wan b*** fir the 8/1 shot dougies rule buy tip top quality ktf

    • De Niro 2 years ago

      sorry Hamish/dougie couldnt help it with the Booms had proper money on :-)

  101. Alanm 2 years ago

    De niro well done today top tipping matey big well done.

  102. De Niro 2 years ago

    Oscar Rock gives us another can I say Boom !!!!
    Sorry dougie/Hamish
    Loving today long time :-)

    Knew I was on a winner when Sir Swany agreed

    Get in Oscar !!!

  103. De Niro 2 years ago

    Just Storm Force Ten to finish a GREAT DAY

    COME ON EVEN SAM CAN STEER THIS HOME !!!

  104. JP 2 years ago

    Cheers again de niro – and swany….just a vos gardes and storm force ten for two nice doubles – heres hoping!

  105. Denzel 2 years ago

    Storm Force Ten c’mon i need this too De Niro

    • De Niro 2 years ago

      Storm Force 10

      HOW COULD YOU – sam is not the best jockey but dont think he was too blame

      Still a great day :-(

  106. David mc 2 years ago

    My fault that last one lost de Niro cod I was on it sorry mate brutal

  107. De Niro 2 years ago

    Davidmc you are forgiven pal 😉

  108. De Niro 2 years ago

    Alanm,jp,rob,hamish cheers fellas

  109. Tom 2 years ago

    Horse racing is far too hard to call, tried my hand at it every horse i pick seems to loose. Went with favourite storm force ten just

  110. De Niro 2 years ago

    last bet today playing up the winnings
    good luk to all with runners still
    off to pub and will listen to this on the phone 😉

    16-20 Newbury

    The Unit 3/1

  111. De Niro 2 years ago

    Tom if its any consolation half the betting public went down with you on Storm Force Ten – only clue to it losing was it had Sam on it – I thought it was a ‘shoe in’

  112. busstop 2 years ago

    home run next fontwell

  113. busstop 2 years ago

    HOME RUN non runner

  114. busstop 2 years ago

    Fontwell

    16.50 REGAL FLOW
    17.20 ONWITHTHEPARTY

    Stratford

    16.25 JAY ARE
    17.00 ALEZANNA

    4 wins and a yank

    gl

  115. De Niro 2 years ago

    BOOOOOOOOM !!!!!!

    The Unit 3/1

    What a day 😉 beers are on – not me 😉

  116. Wato 2 years ago

    No lol

  117. Alanm 2 years ago

    Well done De niro top tipping :)

  118. Wato 2 years ago

    De Niro simply fantastic!!

  119. Alanm 2 years ago

    De niro I think your odds on to win the march 22nd post first with your luck today.

  120. Profile photo of Mr Fixit
    Mr Fixit 2 years ago

    Olga, he’s spot on – your comment was rubbish. Just look at Johnb’s profit this month.

  121. Punting For Fun 2 years ago

    I have not really concentrated on horses for a while and i used to like trying the place markets since i thought that was the best chance for me to get some winners. So just for a change of betting from footy i am going to see if i can hit any sort of run from betting the places on Betfair.

    1st up is Milansbar 14:50 Kelso 15/8 to be placed.

    2nd up is Golden Doyen 15:45 Newbury 15/8 to be placed.

    3rd up is The Unit 16:20 Newbury 11/10 to be placed.

    Will do a small stake e/w treble as well with Bet365 giving these odds so far.

    7/1 Won @ 10/1

    8/1 Gubbed @ 6/1

    6/1 Won @ 9/4

    Well Golden Doyen let me down for £3’550.80p

    One jockey i hate is Richard Johnson and he was on Golden Doyen and to make matters worse i looked at Alzammaar who had been in the frame 7 out of 8 attempts before today and what actually drew my eye to it was the fact i have seen people on here (can’t remember who me) rave about Greatrex and Sheehan :-(

    With De Niro having a cracking day my near miss for £3’550.80p doesn’t even get a mention :-(

    Well done De Niro have a thought when your having a Dram of finest Malt tonight. 😉

  122. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Sorry Rookie ,well done Jasper ,typical Saturday for me ,Star of the show DeNiro brilliant.

  123. Alanm 2 years ago

    Punting for fun really feel your pain but KTF it will come.
    Just keep posting for us all to see and hopefully catch one soon.

    • Punting For Fun 2 years ago

      Not as much pain as i am feeling right now Alanm :-( lol

  124. Alanm 2 years ago

    Bad Jasper that was brillant info on the 4,45 race

    • bad jasper. 2 years ago

      cheers, got 3-1 last night.
      de niro is defo man of the match today though.
      quality tipping again from the master….

  125. Alanm 2 years ago

    Also most guys on this tread know last fav Ireland win bet.:)

  126. Alanm 2 years ago

    D/C one for you onwiththeparty 9/4 5.25 Fontwell

  127. Alanm 2 years ago

    ONE LAST THING FROM ME.

    VIVE LA FRANCE

  128. Hamish75 2 years ago

    Gold star fir deniro electrifying enjoy every sip ov yer swally at the boozers big hand ti aw the winners today puntin fir fun n a stand by this always ktf

  129. robbo 2 years ago

    comon johnb,on a personal note i think you should give one tip a day,not four its hard enough to get one winner robbo

  130. Rookie 2 years ago

    14.30 MR Midnight mustang 5/1
    15.35 MR Grimley girl 7/2
    14.50 Win Pagham belle 6/1
    15.15 DP Jumptoconclusions 3/1
    Lucky 15!

  131. swany 2 years ago

    Well done De Niro great stuff,bad jasper well spotted nice winner

  132. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Another smashing ride from Nina ,scraped the paint all the way round to get 2nd and get me a wee bit back.

  133. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Sporting Life give the winning jockey in the 5.20 at Bangor as N Specified …terrific name … one to watch I think .

  134. Kendog 2 years ago

    What a stinkin days racing for me…
    Fair play De.Niro on some great pics

    I put all the kids holiday fund on Duncans banker, cheers for that poundcake.

  135. Kendog 2 years ago

    I’m only messin by the way Duncan :)

  136. johnb 2 years ago

    Disapointing day today with a 5 point loss and also disapointed with the Nap that made a terrible mistake at the water jump when trailing his hind legs in the water,
    No horse can win with a mistake like that

    March now a 30.98 point profit

    Sundays Tip

    Wincanton
    3:25
    Scoop The Pot 2/1 NAP/NB betfred

    Joint NAP & NB on sunday so double stake

  137. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    Sorry Kendog,lesson learned,Rookies house and now your kids holiday ,hopefully you didn’t go on the footy threads because I was all over Stoke.I Hang my head in Shame .For what it’s worth if I were you I would avoid Hibs tomorrow as I have lumped on them.

  138. johnb 2 years ago

    Robbo it doesnt matter how many horses are picked by me
    if everyone backs them all to level stakes then everyone makes a profit Guaranteed
    i have always said long term profits are guaranteed and they are

  139. Punting For Fun 2 years ago

    Just a quick question about Greatrex and Sheehan is it correct that i have seen this combo being praised on here for being a serious good combo or it is just a great name combo that they have been mentioned for ?

  140. Duncan Poundcake 2 years ago

    DC new thread up

  141. Pat 2 years ago

    I’m just wondering whether you are double staking because you are very confident or because there isn’t much on tomorrow.

    Thanks

  142. Rookie 2 years ago

    Hi punting. dougie was the one that introduced me to that combination and it has done well. there was a patch last year where backing them was like printing money. That and smullen/weld last year was very profitable.

  143. De Niro 2 years ago

    duncan,kendog, hamish again, bad jasper much appreciated guys

    :-)

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