DEC 17: JOHNB’S RACING TIPS AND CHAT

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TUESDAY saw another second place for the nap as Cape Cay was well beaten for first place at Kempton.

The NB Palm Grey made a bad mistake three out and couldn’t recover as it finished well down the field.

Wednesday’s Tips

Ludlow 1.20
Le Bacardy 11-2 Skybet BetVictor Coral

Newbury 1.40
Greenlaw 5-2 NB Bet365 BetVictor Coral

Lingfield 2.0
Keep Kicking 7-1 NAP Bet365

Kempton 5.10
Boadicee 6-1 Ladbrokes

Good luck folks and post your tips and chat here.

 

88 Comments
  1. Donny 2 years ago

    Green law, razor wind, Nigel’s destiny in a treble and Trixie.

  2. Luke A 2 years ago

    December 16th stats –
    3pts staked
    -3pts loss

    December stats –
    37pts staked
    +6.75pts profit
    (NAP -18pts, NB +29.75pts, Double -5pts)

    All NAP, NB, and DOUBLE bets are each classed as a 1pt stake. The only exception to this is when the selection is Nap/NB. This bet is double stake, therefore a 2pt stake

    Today’s Extra tips (1pt stake per tip)
    0pts staked

    December Extra tips
    20pts staked
    -1.75pts profit

    December overall stats
    57pts staked
    +5pts profit

  3. Luke A 2 years ago

    For December extra tips, that should read -1.75pts loss, not profit.
    Having just spent a while looking through Wednesdays racing, there appears to be a lot of horses I fancy, too many in fact. There are also quite a few intriguing races. I’ve placed trebles and a 4 fold on 4 well fancied horses so far. Those horses are Greenlaw, Razor Wind, Nigels Destiny and It’s a Steal. Hopefully they will do the business

  4. Gus 2 years ago

    3.10 Lingfield

    Saskias dream 12/1 EW

  5. Jimmybeee 2 years ago

    Easter Day 2.15 Newbury if at his best this should be a shoe in.
    Good luck today

  6. davyb 2 years ago

    nap fennann 200 lin nb als memory 310 lin

  7. Jimmybeee 2 years ago

    Sorry not a great price at 8/11 but this will be long odds on I think come race time.

  8. Napper valley 2 years ago

    Put this up yesterday so just a re-post. Price has drifted to 20s due to the money for the fav.

    One worth a small E/W tomorrow investissment in the 2.35 Lingfield.

    I know Dougie has already ripped the fav and I can’t disagree with it’s chances but I think 18/1 is too big for this one so I’ll take my chances with it.

    GL all

  9. DougieC 2 years ago

    Napper,thanks for that I only put up Razor Wind and Nigels Destiny for early price 13/8 and 2/1 for the thread to look at. Should all 8 go to post Investissement
    is a cracking price
    GL mate

  10. Dancing Brave 2 years ago

    Todays Treble @ 4.68/1

    2.15 Newbury – Easter Day
    2.35 Lingfield – Razor Win
    6.10 Kempton – Quest for Wonder

    GL all :)

  11. Mav 2 years ago

    The less said about yesterday the better so onto today we go

    1.40 Newbury – Greenlaw 9/4 NB
    5.40 Kempton – Temple Road 9/2 NAP
    6.40 Kempton – Nigels Destiny 11/8

    Treble odds 41/1

  12. DougieC 2 years ago

    Morning again.Double carpet highlighted Davy Russell,over here on Beast Of Burden which I have taken. Ive also backed Minnela On Line singles and double.Ill have Greatreax in the first in a forecast depending on what is made fav.
    To finish with looking again for a bit of value
    NAP..WELSH SUNRISE..5.10 Kempton
    NB…TEMPLE ROAD…5.40 Kempton and for patent add
    NNB..COMPTON PRINCE..3.10 Lingfield
    GL

  13. double carpet 2 years ago

    Morning all

    I could put up 8 or 9 today i fancy that many
    So scratching my head trying to narrow them down to a reasonable amount then i will put them up.

  14. Mav 2 years ago

    DC I had 5 that stood out to me the 3 I have put up plus Easter Day & Razor Wind but those 2 are both odds on and I don’t like putting up odds on shots on the site so left them out but I really think they will both win and also like yours Beast of Burden. Fingers crossed today is profitable as the past 2 days have been terrible

  15. double carpet 2 years ago

    Mav
    had a bit of luck myself yesterday. Landed a nice accum last night with
    luton
    rochdale
    chelsea
    preston
    and munich were one goal short for me landing another but the biggy was barcelona in play betting as i started at 6-0 and kept betting on over 6.5 then over 7.5 and so on. Couldnt believe the other team actually scored to get the over 8.5 but wasnt complaining !!

  16. Al P 2 years ago

    Just discovered this site today!

    Well seeing as everyones already tipped up nigels, easter and razor, I’ll go for:

    2:25 ludlow – my wigwam or yours

    Had a 4 fold last night at prices of 2/1, 6/5, 13/8 and 7/2.

    Good luck

  17. Mav 2 years ago

    I had no spare pennies left for a coupon last night had lost them all on horses yesterday :-( but well done to you for that 1 mate and Barcelona in play wasn’t a daft move 😉

  18. Jay 2 years ago

    After re-studying the 1:40 (not sure was wise)…I’ve decided to change my nap for today….it’s a brave change!
    1:40 Newbury Winston Churchill 5/1

  19. Mav 2 years ago

    I have Greenlaw down as my NB for the day in that race Jay what was your original selection in that race and what made you change? I haven’t placed my bet yet as those were 3 I fancied so if you give good reasoning about why you have picked Winston Churchill then I may just leave the race alone and do another. cheers

  20. Jay 2 years ago

    Morning Mav! I had Greenlaw last night as I really fancied him after looking at the form and so forth. I do think he’ll still take all the beating with my hindsight saying ‘Major Milborne’ but after looking again today with certain factors..ie weight, how they ran in last race, how they started off in the betting, blah, blah…Winston Churchill would have a reasonable chance…it’s a little tricky race and all fingers point to Greenlaw outclassing them but I don’t think it will be that simple for him

    • Mav 2 years ago

      Cheers Jay will have another look at the race

  21. Chachie 2 years ago

    According to Trev – 2.45 Ludlow. 11/1 E/W. Confident this has a great chance of winning.

  22. Luke A 2 years ago

    Glad I placed my bets on last night, on the 4 I mentioned. The bets would be worth much less this morning.
    As I said last night, there are loads of horses I fancy today, all at various odds. I won’t bother putting up more short odds, so I’ll just name 4 which have a bit of value.
    1.50 Grimley Girl 9/2
    3.10 Chevise 11/2
    3.40 Celestial Bay 5/1
    7.10 Hazzaat 7/2
    I’ve placed these 4 plus 2 others in a 10p each way heinz for interest. Today is going to be hard to not place bets throughout the day
    good luck all

  23. busstop 2 years ago

    morning all

    bad case of seconditus yesterday with my 2 morning picks

    but notnowsam won later payed for day

    newb 12.40 astigos 8/1
    newb 14.45 value at risk 5/4
    newb 15.20 miss minx 5/4
    ludl 13.20 arkaim 11/2
    ludl 14.25 opening batsman 10/3

    prices i have took but all BOG

    gl all

  24. Thehawk 2 years ago

    Ew double tee it up tommo 2.35 ling and barnmore 6.40 kemp.

    Nap Haines 7.10 Kempton

    Good Luck Folks

  25. double carpet 2 years ago

    Ok have whittled it down to 4 so here goes

    NAP BEAST OF BURDEN 1.10
    NB ITS A STEAL 12.50
    OPENING BATSMAN 2.25
    GREENLAW 1.40

    Best of luck to all

  26. Lukeyboy 2 years ago

    Today’s nags, only doing small stakes today which I may regret haha
    Lingfield
    King olav 6/1
    Fennann 8/1
    Investissement 20/1
    Compton prince 7/1

    Kempton
    Welsh sunrise 7/1
    Temple road 5/1

    Ludlow
    Le Bacardy 5/1
    According to trev 10/1

    Newbury
    Kaki de la pree 4/1
    Winston Churchill 5/1
    Easter Day 1/1

    Couple of these have already been posted but like them all

    GL

    162/1 each way double for welsh sunrise and investissement

  27. Al P 2 years ago

    On vivacissimo in the 1:40

    GL

  28. Mav 2 years ago

    Okay decided to stick with my earlier selections :-)

  29. Marco 2 years ago

    Morning lads

    Andrew Balding

    Lingfield Park 15.40 Darting

    Darting ran a decent race last time and we have a decent apprentice on today. Although she hasn’t won a race yet, she is in great form at home and this is her best winning chance to date. 432
    Current Price N/A Betfair
    grey line
    Kempton Park 17.10 Oasis Spirit Oasis Spirit needed the last run and she is now fully fit. It is recorded that she bled last time but it wasn’t a lung bleed, just a nose bleed so that doesn’t concern me. She should have a very decent chance today but she can be quirky so caution advise!

    Kempton Park 18.40 Rizal Park

    Rizal Park won well last time but it wasn’t the strongest of races. Having said that, I do think his mark will allow another couple of wins. He has a tough opponent in Nigel’s Destiny but if he settles well and there is a good gallop, he could trouble the favourite.

    Kempton Park 19.10 Haines

    Haines was given a very indifferent ride last time so you can definitely draw a line through that run. David on board today and I think he is still well handicapped, he really should win this race!

    Brendan Powell

    Kempton Park 17.10 Elusive Ellen
    Elusive Ellen ran poorly last time at Wolverhampton and I can’t find a reason why. I hope that she shows her form from the race before and if she does, she would have a squeak.

    Charlie Longsdon

    Newbury 13.40 Greenlaw

    Greenlaw has schooled ok over fences and we drop him back in trip for his chase debut. That was based on Richard Johnson’s feedback. This looks a reasonable opportunity and he should go close but for me wouldn’t be one for large stakes.
    Colin Tizzard

    Newbury 14.15 Masters Hill

    We were looking for a small field for Masters Hill to try and get him back on track. We will find it tough to beat Easter Day and Walkon.

    Fergal O’Brien

    Newbury 12.40 Chase The Spud

    Chase The Spud will love the ground and I’m hopeful he’ll be competitive here today. It looks a tough race but he should be there or thereabouts.

    Ludlow 12.50 Rio Milan

    Rio Milan won well last time but I think he’s gone up too much in the handicap and might well struggle to put in a repeat performance.

    Ludlow 14.25 Rockchasebullett

    He’s better going the other way round and on a galloping track so I think he could struggle here. Hopefully I’m writing but I just can’t fancy him today.

    Ian Williams

    Ludlow 15.00 Dream N

    I’m not sure that Dream N will be good enough to get involved today but we will certainly know more after today.

    Jamie Osborne

    Kempton Park 16:40 Born To Be Bad

    Born To Be Bad is not the finished article yet and I think is best watched for now.

    Kim Bailey

    Ludlow 12.20 Ballyknock Lad

    Big chasing sort who needs to learn about racing.. better ground would help and chase fences in the spring. At best he could be placed.

    Ludlow 15.00 The Scarlett Woman

    The Scarlett Woman has a great deal to learn and it will be the spring and a handicap mark before she does.. Not expecting too much.

    Marco Botti

    Kempton Park 18.10 Faith Matters

    She is coming along nicely and has come on well from her debut run. She will need further in time and I would like to see her be more involved at the business end this time. I would think she could have a small each way chance, but with only 6 runners it may be difficult for her to finish in the front Two.

    Oliver Sherwood

    Ludlow 12.20 Colony Club

    Colony Club ran ok in a slow run bumper last time. He jumps well at home and I am looking for an encouraging run today. There will be other prizes to win with him in the future.

    Ludlow 15.00 Coco Des Champs

    Coco Des Champs disappointed a little bit in her last run. She jumps well at home and hopefully will have an each way squeak today.

    Robert Cowell

    Kempton Park 16:40 Rahmah

    Rahmah has been so close to winning and this drop back in trip should help. Would love him to win as a two-year-old before the year is out and then give him a little winters holiday. He is a tall horse who will come on as a 3 year old, but this represents a good opportunity for him.

    Warren Greatrex

    Newbury 12.10 Blue Atlantic

    Blue Atlantic has run well twice recently. I think this track will suit him more than Market Rasen. He will handle the ground and he should be in the first 3 and if the favourite fails, we could go one better.

    William Knight

    Lingfield Park 15.40 Rowan Ridge

    Rowan Ridge has not run on the track for some time (ed. 9 months) but he has done plenty of work as he’s a lead horse at home. He’s won over course and distance and a 0-70 is his level. I think he has a decent each-way chance.

  30. Marco 2 years ago

    My sections are:

    According to Trev
    Winston Churchill
    Nancy Astor

    £2.50 TREBLES AND DOUBLES

    Haines at 11/4 7.10 Kempton
    On The Huh at 5/1 4.40 Kempton.
    Silver Scotch in the 3.00 Ludlow

    £2.50 TREBLES AND DOUBLES

  31. Big arj 2 years ago

    1.10 the doom bar 50/1 throw some change at that .

  32. JOHNY BANKER 2 years ago

    Wed 2 Bankers Ludlow 12.50 No 6 Its A Steal Nap Max win Ludlow 3.00 No 7 Tara Mist Max win

  33. Gus 2 years ago

    Just said on TV
    4.40 Kempton

    Unraced Channon horse volunteer point
    8s into 6/4ish

  34. Luke A 2 years ago

    Days of heaven cost me a double and treble other week when rearing at the start. It came on strong and finished third that day. I gave it another chance just now, and it done the same at the start. However this time he went on to ruin the field. I think this horse is one to follow!!

    • Mav 2 years ago

      Nice bit of info there Luke will look out for it in future

  35. Big arj 2 years ago

    And chuck some money on bring back Charlie 100/1 e/w 12.20

  36. Luke A 2 years ago

    I wish I said something prior to the race now. But I don’t like “tipping” a horse that could potentially blow all chances before race has even begun.

  37. Mav 2 years ago

    It’s a steal won that easily :-)

  38. visualiza 2 years ago

    Nice tip with its a steal DC, couldn’t get on it on time though

  39. double carpet 2 years ago

    At 11/8 it certainly was a steal !!!!

  40. Luke A 2 years ago

    There’s the first of my 4 that I backed late last night. Well done to all with it’s a steal

  41. Craig 2 years ago

    Any one fancy Easter Day at 2:15

  42. ew thief 2 years ago

    Indus valley 3.10l
    Classic pursuit 5.40k
    Grayln ruby 7.10k
    Also on dougies welsh sunrise nappers investissement & davys fennann gl what ever you’re on lads off to work

  43. busstop 2 years ago

    seconditus still up to now first two both second

    gl

  44. visualiza 2 years ago

    Yeah was on this last horse bus at very good odds, wished I had done it each way

  45. Mav 2 years ago

    Gutted about Beast of Burden stuck that in a few lines :-(

  46. jimmybeee 2 years ago

    Craig easter day is my xmas today i hope
    Good luck got evens earlier dunno the price now as im at work

  47. busstop 2 years ago

    major milbourne in next for me

  48. Mav 2 years ago

    C’Mon Greenlaw do the business as the treble I posted earlier is now the only line I have left running :-(

  49. Mav 2 years ago

    That’s me done for the day and not even 2pm :-(

  50. busstop 2 years ago

    get in major milboune how easy was that payed for day

    gl

  51. Luke A 2 years ago

    Well, Greenlaw was dreadful to say the least

  52. Luke A 2 years ago

    Seems you’re better at picking a winner at the “off” time at present busstop

  53. busstop 2 years ago

    luke came on mention my seconds so while on weighed up race fancied that strongly

    gl

  54. busstop 2 years ago

    cant always get on in the afternoon better really way up markets goings etc

  55. Marco 2 years ago

    busstop that bloody seconditus is contagious!! 2/2 so far for me!

  56. Luke A 2 years ago

    Yeah that’s a fair point. Nice winner nonetheless. My worries of Johnb’s form tailing off by time I started backing horses again appears to have come true. Hopefully he can regain some form ASAP

  57. busstop 2 years ago

    luke i only do jump racing so dont really follow john but
    good luck whoever you follow

  58. Luke A 2 years ago

    I don’t follow anyone as a rule mate. I always keep eye out for how John’s do, but whether I back them or not depends on whether I fancy them myself or not. Long gone are the days where I’d blindly follow anyone. Good luck with the remainder of your selections

  59. Mav 2 years ago

    Yet another winner for Hobbs and Johnson they are some combination

  60. jimba 2 years ago

    Busstop well done with major milboune, missf notnowsam by seconds got major though, happy days!! GL ALL!!

  61. busstop 2 years ago

    value at risk won as well so profit on the day

    gl

  62. double carpet 2 years ago

    Had a pop at sandygate hobbs/johnson ew
    why not

  63. cobramint 2 years ago

    Just 3 bets and a treble for me today Tara Mist (10/11) Razor Wind (10/11) and Falling Petals (11/8) gonna try a Yankee tonight.
    4.05 Kemp. dusty blue
    6.10 Kemp. quest wonder
    6.40 Kemp. nigel’s destiny
    7.10 Kemp. haines

    All very short but as they say a 10/11 winner is better than a 100/1 loser.

    I’m not sure what to make of this gamble on volunteer point for Mick Channon in the 4.40. I personally liked Kirby’s ride Mahwah.

  64. Jimmybeee 2 years ago

    Disaster today as Easter day flopped to early in the season probably.
    Good luck guys I will be taking a rest now as I can’t find a winner hope you all have a great xmas.

  65. Luke A 2 years ago

    Of my 4 shorter priced selections, 3 have won with 2 winning and Greenlaw lost. 1 more to come which is Nigels destiny.
    of my 4 bigger priced each way selections, 1 came second, 1 finished nowhere, and celestial bay won at 8/1. The last one is hazzaat in the final race.
    good luck all

  66. Luke A 2 years ago

    3 have run that is meant to say, not won.
    Jimmybee, I feel for you mate. So many fancied horses have done the business today, yet still manage to pick the odd one that flops. I’m much the same at the moment. Hope you have a good Xmas. With any luck you’ll come back all guns blazing

  67. Lostboy 2 years ago

    Hi lads…keeping it small stakes as usual. But I’m going with Andrew baldings 3 out at Kempton tonight.
    Oasis Spirit
    Rizal Park
    Haines in the last……Good luck lads.

  68. Mav 2 years ago

    Luke I feel sick as have just logged onto my account to check my bets and i had done a line this morning with It’s a Steal, Beast of Burden, Razor Wind, Value at Risk, Tara Mist & Chocca Wocca

    Out of the 6 of them only Beast of Burden lost and totally gutted seeing 5 results showing green and only that 1 showing grey and as put it on 1st thing the prices were better than they won at as £5 accumulator was paying just under £500 so yet again my bad luck run goes on :-(

  69. Luke A 2 years ago

    That is a killer mav! Funnily enough (well not funny at all) but my friend placed 5 of your 6 in a 5 fold. Fortunately for him the one he left out was the only loser. He placed that about midday, so odds had changed a fair bit by then, and I think a £5 stake returned around £160. So he’s had a tidy profit. And another friend just done one single, he went big on razor wind last night at 6/4 so he too made a nice profit. Then there’s the likes of me and you, struggling to put a few winners altogether in one bet. If nigels destiny wins later I break even on the day. But I shan’t be holding my breath.
    Don’t think there’s much value in the footy tonight either

  70. Marco 2 years ago

    On the Huh for me in the next £10 e/w

  71. Mav 2 years ago

    Beast of Burden let 2 other lines of mine down but it wasn’t the only horse on those ones so I don’t feel gutted about those just the one above :-(

  72. Dancing Brave 2 years ago

    Mav, you don’t have bad luck you are just not betting sensibly. With 5 winners from 6 selections you should be well ahead and sticking to singles and not multiples !!

    Clearly your selection process is good :)

    Cheers DB

  73. Luke A 2 years ago

    Yeah I was going to say something similar to that DB. I liked a lot of short priced horses today, but got it down to 4. I then backed them in trebles as well as 4 fold, as I don’t expect more than one to let me down. That way I’m giving myself a slightl safety net. Obviously if 2 lose then all lines are dead.

  74. busstop 2 years ago

    mav bet singles mate if your first wins use profit of that to bet second pick that way your stake stays in your pocket bookies love punters that bet big accumalators theres always at least one lets you down,

    gl

  75. DougieC 2 years ago

    Well done double carpet for alerting us to Volunteer Point,and nice pick ew thief with Indus Valley,Busstop always worth a winner. Hope some got early price on Razor
    Onwards

  76. Mav 2 years ago

    The problem is guys that I work so I don’t have time to do singles and really fancied them all so just stuck them together in a £5 acca as there wernt any big odds ones in it :-(

  77. double carpet 2 years ago

    Dougie
    it was GUS who pointed that out
    and thankyou gus saved my day

  78. DougieC 2 years ago

    srry gus stuck a few bob on it so thanks,In a pickle here in the 5.40 Vaughan/Baker has won me a tidy sum in the past.Just read trainers thoughts but stall 1 putting me off.Decided £10 ew,main Bet is already on Temple Road

  79. Luke A 2 years ago

    December 17th stats –
    2pts staked
    -2pts loss

    December stats –
    39pts staked
    +4.75pts profit
    (NAP -19pts, NB +28.75pts, Double -5pts)

    All NAP, NB, and DOUBLE bets are each classed as a 1pt stake. The only exception to this is when the selection is Nap/NB. This bet is double stake, therefore a 2pt stake

    Today’s Extra tips (1pt stake per tip)
    2pts staked
    -2pts loss

    December Extra tips
    22pts staked
    -3.75pts loss

    December overall stats
    61pts staked
    +1pts profit

  80. cobramint 2 years ago

    Pour le victore 2/1 from 8/1!!!

    Mav. You’ve gotta start perming mate.

  81. johnb 2 years ago

    Wednesday saw yet another NAP come 2nd Keep Kicking 7/1
    Thats 6 2nds from my last 7 Naps
    The others are not worth mentioning they were that bad

    But on thursday i have 5 tips and all 5 are as strong as each other and in my opinion these are strong fancies with big prices
    So strong that i am even having a little dabble at the fivefold 50p at 15,443/1 with bet365 lol you can but dream but you also never know as all 5 are well handicapped

    I will be posting a write-up on thursdays picks later

    Thursdays Tips

    Southwell
    2:00
    Canadian Diamond 6/1 skybet

    2:30
    Patriotic 12/1 NAP bet365

    Exeter
    2:50
    Olympian Boy 9/1 NB coral

    Kempton
    5:15
    Warden Bond 9/2 bet365

    6:45
    Quenelle 7/2 bet365 coral skybet

    Double
    Patriotic & Olympian Boy 109/1 bet365

  82. Gus 2 years ago

    7.10 kempton

    Gonna have a small each way bet on
    Noor Al Haya 12/1

  83. jimba 2 years ago

    Johnb, think i’ll a go at fivefold too, all the best!!

  84. Lostboy 2 years ago

    2 winners thanks to rizal park and haines…Good return.

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