Apr 24: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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JOHNB drew a blank on a tough Saturday for the loss of 3pts.

He’s now 12.73pts down for April and hopes to get back among the winners with his Sunday selections.

Johnb’s Sunday Tips

Musselburgh 2:00
Amazement 9-4 NB racebets

3:30
Argent Knight 5-2 NAP racebets

Double
Amazement & Argent Knight 10.38-1 racebets

 

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    theplug 8 months ago

    rock on bollinski 3-30 musselburgh 8/1

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    biggee 8 months ago

    Two winners today.. 5/2 & 5/1 I’d take that every saturday.

    3.30 Musselburgh Pass Muster @12/1 bog

    4.20 Thirsk Surround Sound @11/4 bog

    4.50 Thirsk Storming Tom @5/1 bog

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    theplug 8 months ago

    johnb i just noticed i tip against yours hopefuly one of us is right, and also rothesay chancer in the 4-00 musselburgh 15/2

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    rookie 8 months ago

    14.20 Th Iceaxe 9/1
    16.50 Th Prayer time 9/2
    14.40 Go Granny may
    E/w pick
    15.20 Th Rita’s boy 16/1

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    rookie 8 months ago

    14.20 Th Iceaxe 9/1
    16.50 Th Prayer time 9/2
    14.40 Go Granny may 9/1
    E/w pick
    15.20 Th Rita’s boy 16/1

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      duncanpoundcake 8 months ago

      Even if you didnt back them Sprinter Sacre and Menorah made this a memorable day,
      Skullduggery always part of the game ,working out what trainers are up to ,getting a handicap mark they can win from ,we know it ,they know it and the bookies know it ,even the official handicapper knows it,not saying it’s right but that’s the game we play
      On we go looking for that edge GL.

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        the notorious 8 months ago

        DP, agreed. thats known as institutionalized malpractice, not as serious DP.
        More serious issues would be certain individuals attempting corrupt practices in its many shapes and forms so as to ascertain a result of a race for their own benefit.

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    the notorious 8 months ago

    B.J. Geraghty (rider), A.J. Martin (trainer), J.P. McManus (owner) Appeals Limerick – 3rd April 2016

    The Appeals Body (Division Two) Justice Tony Hunt (in the chair), Martin P. O’Donnell and T.L. Crawford met at the Turf Club, The Curragh, Co Kildare on Monday, 18th April 2016 to consider the appeals of Barry Geraghty (rider), A.J. Martin (trainer) and J.P. McManus (owner), against the decision of the Stewards at Limerick on 3rd April 2016 following the running of the Bookonline Limerick Races.ie Handicap Hurdle. On the day Barry Geraghty was suspended for 30 race days and ordered to forfeit his riding fee as the Stewards found that he was in breach of Rule 212 having failed to take all reasonable and permissible measures to give his mount Noble Emperor a full opportunity to win or obtain its best possible place. In addition, A.J. Martin was found in breach of Rule 212 and was fined €3,000 and Noble Emperor was suspended for 60 days.

    B.J. Geraghty’s grounds of appeal was that he did not breach Rule 212. His horse Noble Emperor was allowed to run on its merits and was ridden to obtain the best possible placing and that at no stage did he intend to ride the horse in any other way other than to obtain its best possible placing.

    A.J. Martin’s grounds of appeal was that he did not instruct the rider to prevent the horse from obtaining its best possible placing and that veterinary evidence has come to hand that was not available for consideration by the Acting Stewards.

    J.P. McManus’s grounds of appeal was that he, as the owner of the horse, was being unfairly penalised by the Acting Stewards for the alleged conduct of other parties.

    Evidence was heard from B.J. Geraghty, Brian O’Connell (rider of Cliff House), Don McLean and A.J. Martin.

    Film of the race was also viewed in conjunction with film of Noble Emperor’s previous races at Fairyhouse on 1st January 2015, Punchestown on 31st December 2015, Gowran Park on 21st January 2016 and Gowran Park on 21st November 2015.

    In his evidence B.J. Geraghty said his instructions were to settle close to the pace and obtain cover. The horse was ridden in this manner on 11 of his previous 14 starts. The horse was inclined to do too much during a race if he did not obtain cover and it was important that he had him relaxed and settled.

    In relation to the race in question, B.J. Geraghty was aware that Velocity Boy was fancied and was further aware that Cliff House was a danger. He had planned to lie behind Cliff House during the race in order to settle him during running.

    In relation to running, he stated that Noble Emperor jumped off quietly and was relaxed. He settled behind Cliff House which was the plan, but was concerned that Velocity Boy had raced into a substantial early lead in the race. He said that had he pursued the winner at that stage, his horse would not have lasted the distance and consequently he decided to track behind Cliff House. When the runners turned out of the back straight on the second circuit, he continued to track Cliff House down the hill and maneuvered his mount to challenge whereupon the horse made some progress on the winner. However, Velocity Boy kicked on again and when he applied pressure to Noble Emperor he kept on at the same pace and made little impression from the second last to the finishing line.

    B.J. Geraghty believed he could not have won the race in the circumstances and would have been closer if he had to ride the race again, but was of the opinion he would not have beaten the winner on the day. He reiterated that if he had pursued the winner at an earlier stage he would not have finished closer and probably would have finished fourth or fifth. The race, he intimated, was run at a fast pace.

    B.J. Geraghty referred to some of the horse’s previous runs and in particular a race at Naas in March 2015, where the horse was lit up early on and fell at the third fence. He said the optimum way to ride the horse was to settle and cover him. In an ideal world he would prefer to have been closer and in the circumstances this was not achievable on the day. He was happy with the horse’s position at the start and reiterated that it was not an option for him to chase the winner.

    In response to a number of questions posed by Louis Weston, B.J. Geraghty said he accepted “the winner got too much rope” during the early stages of the race. He was aware that Velocity Boy would lead the race and fancied Noble Emperor to win. He was aware that Velocity Boy had won at Limerick on a previous occasion. With regard to his instructions, he said he could not have ridden his horse closer to the pace with cover and as the race unfolded would have preferred if the field had sat closer to the pace. He tried to make progress from three out, but was unable to take the horse off the bridle at that point as he would not have gotten home. He suggested his only option of winning was if the winner had stopped and suggested that his horse was flat to the boards turning into the straight when he was asked for a maximum effort. There was little response at that stage.

    In response to a question from the Chairman, B.J. Geraghty stated he did not have another option with regard to the way he rode the horse and reiterated that if he had chased the winner early on he would have finished in fourth or fifth position.

    In his evidence Brian O’Connell outlined events. He said that he sat in third place during the race and decided to chase the winner as the field came down the hill having turned out of the back straight on the second circuit. In hindsight he said it was the wrong option, as his horse did not finish out the race. The race rode at a strong pace and he would not have beaten the winner under any circumstances. His instructions were to challenge last but it was not possible to do so in the context of how the race was run. He had to ignore his instructions to present his horse with a winning opportunity, but that his mount had used up all of his energy in trying to do so.

    In his evidence Don McLean referred to the timings for all two mile hurdle races run at Limerick in 2016. He said the race in question was the fastest two mile hurdle race run at Limerick this year and was run at a consistent pace. He outlined the various sectional times which he had estimated from recordings of the race.

    In his evidence A.J. Martin said that this was Noble Emperor’s fourteenth race. He described him as a very keen, free running horse that could be difficult and hard to hold. He reiterated the instructions given to B.J. Geraghty and said he knew early on that his race plan was not going to work. He said that the winner “stole” the race in the early stages and in his opinion if Noble Emperor had chased Velocity Boy, he would not have won. He said he thought the horse had a good chance of winning and while it was up to B.J. Geraghty to decide what to do in the context of how the race was run, he felt he should have been closer to the winner but even if he was, it would have made little difference. He was disappointed with the way the race unfolded and suggested the rider should have pursued Velocity Boy at an earlier stage and by following Cliff House, he had followed the wrong horse. He accepted the race was over at an early stage when Velocity Boy got an uncontested lead.

    Having considered the evidence, the Appeals Body noted that the race was unsatisfactory in the context of the way it was run. It was clear that Noble Emperor’s opportunity of winning had dissipated from a very early stage and in the circumstances second place was the best possible placing he could have achieved. They had to address whether or not Barry Geraghty made an error of judgement, and if he had done so, was there a breach of Rule 212. Their decision was based upon events as the race unfolded and whether or not different tactics were used, would the horse have obtained a better placing. In their view they were not satisfied that different tactics would have given the horse any opportunity to win and accepted that the horse did not have any opportunity to win the race at any relevant time. They noted that when maximum pressure was applied to Noble Emperor, it only produced a modest reaction and in the context of how the race was run, the opinion of the Appeals Body was that the horse’s best possible finishing position was second. On that basis they allowed all the appeals.

    Barry Geraghty was represented by Stephen Lanigan-O’Keeffe S.C. instructed by Andrew Coonan, Coonan Cawley Solicitors, Naas, Co Kildare, A.J. Martin was represented by Eugene Gleeson S.C. instructed by Kevin Power, Maurice Power Solicitors, Kilmallock, Co Limerick. J.P. McManus was represented by Patrick Kennedy, Patrick J.O’Meara & Co Solicitors, Thurles, Co Tipperary. The case was presented by Louis Weston, Barrister, instructed by Conal Boyce, Solicitor, Naas, Co Kildare.

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    biggee 8 months ago

    I’m steering clear of Mark Johnston horses for now I think there’s an issue with horses well being at the yard.

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    double carpet 8 months ago

    2.00 gowran LANDIKUSIC
    I mentioned this horse during the week and that i was very much looking forward to see him running.
    Full sister to Zofany and purchased by Alex Soffis who outbid Coolmore for her services.
    If Bolger had had a better start to the campaign then id be lumping on this one as he has won this race twice in the past 3 years and is very good at getting one ready but the fact that he hasnt i suppose thats why 5s are available.
    Still i have to take a plunge as its one of those if i didnt then id be kicking myself.
    Also in the last Welds reported to be a machine and 11/10 has been snapped up by yours truly.

    Best of luck to all

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    the notorious 8 months ago

    Kieren Fallon is giving up his ride on Bainne in Gowran Park for his main employer Michael O Callaghan.
    Instead Fallon travels overseas to Musselburgh for 4 rides all with good chances. Id expect at least a double in fact I suspect Kieren himself would feel the same way.

    Ironically, 3 days ago Michael O Callaghan stated in his stable tour made available to the public on attheraces.com, that Bainne is handicapped to win again soon, so at face value soon is today!
    Bainne is currently 10/1 and any money whatsoever should be a sign.

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      the notorious 8 months ago

      Hopefully Bainne puts in a better showing then the useless Sunshine J.

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        Johnb 8 months ago

        Think it’s the trainer that’s useless, struggling to think of another trainer in the world that has a worse record

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          the notorious 8 months ago

          John, Takashi Kodamo is the only Jap trainer in Ireland. Im not even sure if there’s Jap trainers in England or Scotland but I highly doubt it. I was shocked when you said he only had winners in 8 years of training.

          But, even more shocking is that most Japs would generally have a solid knowledge of training horses given the widespread obsession with the sport of Kings.
          Clearly this didn’t rub off on Kodama.

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            Johnb 8 months ago

            September 2014 was his last winner, he trained in Ireland 2002-2003 then started up again in 2010.
            I thought he only had 5 winners in all those years but atr say 7

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      duncanpoundcake 8 months ago

      Some money for it now 15/2 GL

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    Johnb 8 months ago

    For all my research I still can’t find out anything about PROCONSUL
    Been looking for months now but nothing,
    As a 2yo he was looking to be an outsider for the Derby but has gone off the radar since August last year
    The racing world is waiting to see this full brother to Noble Mission & Frankel

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    davyb 8 months ago

    Sadie babes 2.20 th
    rock on bollinski 3.30 muss
    noodles blue boy 4.00 muss
    Compton river 5.00 muss

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    8 months ago

    Morning all

    no jumps today so nothing from me.

    will follow johnb and a couple of the regulars

    gl all

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    jimron12 8 months ago

    arizona sunrise 4.30 nap money coming in for it aswell

    Was finishing well lto and hopefully a better ride will be enough for him to take this.

    Race after lady poppy 5.00 should go close if fit after 210 days off we will see

    Singles and a double

    Good luck all

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    alanm 8 months ago

    NAP Almutamarred 5/2 4.50 Thirsk
    NB Rita’s Boy 10/1 3.20 Thirsk
    They’re off and running Sanaadh 4/1 1.50 Thirsk GL

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    alanm 8 months ago

    Gowan Pick Texas Radio 5/1 3.10

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    biggee 8 months ago

    My mate whose daughter works for Jedd O’keefe just text to say they fancy LEILA HONWILLOW to run well today 2.20 Thirsk. We all know it’s not always the case so bare in mind if you decide to play.

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    chrisja 8 months ago

    Never In Doubt at 5.50 in the 13:50 at Thirsk
    Maureb at 7.00 in the 14:30 at Musselburgh
    Strathearn at 7.00 in the 14:50 at Thirsk

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    alex 8 months ago

    Just seen someone back number 4 in the 1:50 @ Thirsk with £400 just saying! Hello to the regulars.

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Afternoon all mixed bag yesterday but some smashing tips Duncan has the loan of the blue ribbon,no better make that the green ribbon,donated by kevs manager,Decided to just have nonsense bet today with 5 and 6 furlongs and as we know ,the draw,did he eat up etc all come into play.
    Backed as singles and though not a bet I usually do L15
    SADIE BABES..2.20..THIRSK
    CAPTAIN DUNNE..3.20..THIRSK
    ROCK THE RUNWAY. .3.30 MUSSELBURGH
    MUNJALLY..5.20 MUSSELBURGH
    GL

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    8 months ago

    hi everyone

    T 2.50 FIDRA BAY 9/2

    T 3.20 FREE ZONE 5/1

    T 4.20 INTENSIFIED 8/1

    T 4.50 STORMIN TOM 5/1

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Sorry MUNJALLY 5.20 Thirsk if moderation is lifted
    On we go

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    de niro 8 months ago

    nice one biggee Sat – sometimes hard to keep track of everyone – well done

    Thirsk

    14-20 Sadies Babes 9/2 stan james nap
    16-50 Christmas Hamper 10/1 stan james

    Gowran Park
    14-40 Champagne Or Water 20/1 e/way stan james nb
    15-10 Nora Batt 16/1 e/way william hill

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    OK De Niro I’ll put Reinforced in along with Laila Honiwillow for a forecast
    Gl

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Nice to see you have picked Smullen De Niro I’ve not backed Shamreen today as too short but looking forward to watching this race today.
    On we go wife hitting Primark!

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    I usually back Smullen blind at Gowran modest stakes and have done so today but not tips for the thread just me although 4.40 ew might be a bet
    Gl wife’s home mmm

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    ew thief 8 months ago

    Afternoon all well done winners yesterday
    SPIRIT OF ZEBEDEE 2 20T 10/1
    All in gl

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    duncanpoundcake 8 months ago

    Be surprised if Alanm’s nap doesn’t run well,
    Small interest on Adiator 5.20 20/80 as he hasn’t won often
    Bocca Baciata if it drifts I’ll have another go but not at 11/8

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    alanm 8 months ago

    And yes we’re off and running 4/1 😀

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Nice onen AlanM.. Fahey only has another 230 to break lS seasons total great start Silver star for the boX. . GREAT STUFF

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    duncanpoundcake 8 months ago

    There’s one that won’t be on the Best of Fallon video.

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    theplug 8 months ago

    WOW THE NORTORIOUS THATS IMPRESSIVE

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Mm they are supposed to wait till the stalls open De Niro ,never mind £6 down on the f/cast made up by Alans other Fahey gg.
    Have spent today’s allowance on the regulars and Smullen
    On On a d up I hope

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    rale 8 months ago

    It is definitely Champagne De Niro!!!

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Billy Lee and De Niro where did that come from.Have a Gold Star mate,looked and looked but so what heres a couple of fivers Many thanks paid for the wifes trip!
    On we go

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    smurf 8 months ago

    Alanm do you have any main fears against your NAP?

    If it wins my treble comes up for £1,000 but I can see it is drifting quite rapidly.

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      alanm 8 months ago

      Smurf think it will win if you look at the form of the winner of the last race it as gone on to win twice more so fingers crossed for you mate.

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        smurf 8 months ago

        Thanks Alanm. I have faith in your pick. Win or lose you have given me winners time after time. Always grateful for your tips.

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          alanm 8 months ago

          Sorry Smurf :(

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            smurf 8 months ago

            No apologies ever needed with the amount of winners you provide this thread.

            Over the long term, backing your tips is definitely a winner and I would do it all over again.

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    alanm 8 months ago

    Bleep bleep nearly 3/3 onwards to the nap we go

    De Niro great tipping mate as always

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    alanm 8 months ago

    one more for Gowan Beechmount Whisper 5/2 with Venetian Queen RFC 4.40

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    biggee 8 months ago

    Apologies re info… no excuses it was Sh@@e!

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    biggee 8 months ago

    Well done de niro.. alanm and rookie with iceaxe great stuff guys!

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    jimron12 8 months ago

    Boom nap is in 5/1 this morning NB up next !! Going on Alan m nap too!!!

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    alanm 8 months ago

    Well done Jimron great nap

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    wmgy 8 months ago

    5.20 Thirsk
    Blistering Dancer 16/1

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    jimron12 8 months ago

    Lady poppy!!!!!!! Boom £20 double paid 960£ what a day!!!

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    dkblindspot 8 months ago

    Well done Jimron12 typical tho off a bad weekend stick a couple quid on the double when all bigger bets been down….nice picks

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Nice picks Jimron12 see a few of O,Keefes warriors were sounding it out Great post Have a star and cant miss rookie with Gold for Iceaxe and De Niro for Champange Stars..
    On we go

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    alanm 8 months ago

    wmgy great pick mate and 20 /1 gold star Dougie also well done jimron nice double mate onwards we go

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    jimron12 8 months ago

    Bet365 finally paid me out!! Keep her happy I suppose!!!

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    wmgy… welcome to the Gold Star club!! 20/1 pay for a decent haircut!! Keep posting them Anyof those Amateurs known to you. Possibly bit of inside info!! Anyway smashing stuff to have you here
    Smurf out

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    dougiec 8 months ago

    Emzak just covers my outlay £-out £-in 000 returns don’t you just love ggs
    Teatime Horse steak for tea
    Look forward to tomorrows tips

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    de niro 8 months ago

    sorry Rale only just seen your query matey

    Well done alanm yet again good prices and suoer % strike rate today
    Jimron well cant do better than 2 from 2 at high single figures each when tipped

    wmgy & rookie big well done

    Going to take a break guys for a week or so – will try to return for next Sat;
    Coming up with two 20/1’s and a few other decent price winners last 7 days is taking its toll research and effort wise – (best to hold on to the money for a while too :-) ) plus I have lots of other work on this coming week and dont want to be tipping without putting the work in,or just for the sake !

    Good luck all for the coming week.

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    Johnb 8 months ago

    April 15.73 points down after two seconds today although Argent Knight was well beat in second in a two mile race that ended up just a two furlong sprint

    Monday sees some really good racing and I was in two minds whether to have three or four tips, don’t think I have ever fancied four horses as strongly on the same day and they are all as strong as each other,
    The one I was debating on picking is the Lulu Stanford mount Aksum,
    As I said before Lulu was forced to have a month on the sidelines waiting on her license to come through because when you change stables you have to reapply for your license, Lulu now finds herself back at the Michael Bell yard which speaks volumes that a trainer like Bell would go after her, everyone knows my views on Lulu

    Monday’s Tips

    Ayr
    2:50
    Giant Spark 9/2 NB racebets

    Chelmsford
    3:30
    Italian Beauty 11/4 racebets

    5:00
    Aksum 11/2 racebets

    Windsor
    All My Love 3/1 NAP racebets

    Also advising a 0.25 point Yankee at racebets odds

    Total staked Monday 6.75 points

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    8 months ago

    Well done every1 with winners today!! De niro i hope to god ur back soon!! All i seem to talk about is ur tips!! People r sick listening to me lol. Good luck and if u really fancy 1 please put it up! John im on urs tomorow mate

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    jimron12 8 months ago

    Yankee on!! Lulu is the one!!!

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    the notorious 8 months ago

    Just back from local point to point today. A bad day made worse by Bainne failing to even place. Didnt see the race just result.

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