I'VE managed to get logged in for a few minutes after struggling for internet access in France.
It's been a pretty dramatic week so far with Liverpool just about blowing their title hopes and Hibs moving ever closer to the relegation play-offs spot by losing at Ross County.
Tonight Man City should move within touching distance of the Premier League title by beating Aston Villa at home – and convincingly I'd imagine.
In the SPFL Killie face St Mirren in a vital battle, Motherwell tackle Inverness and Celtic should add to their recent goal haul with victory at St Johnstone.
I'm not putting up tips while on holiday but feel free to post your own thoughts and comments.
In December 2020 we sadly 
man city/villa over 2.5 goals should be a safe bet
Paris Saint-Germain will be crowned champions if they win tonight whatever Monaco’s result that same evening. Ibrahimovitch is back for the parisians after his injury and I expect he’s playing as to participate in their crowning in front of their crowd. Rennes are pitiful and were terrible on saturday in the final of the french cup as they lost to Guingamp 2-0 without any chance to score untill the last few minutes. Go for PSG to win by at least a couple at odds of 1.65.
Other bets I like tonight are over 3.5 goals in the Valladolid vs Real Madrid game. The last six between these two have ended with over 3.5 goals being scored.
Yaya Touré to score against Aston Villa. He has just scored against Crystal Palace and has scored in his last three games at the Etihad (didn’t score in City’s last home game as he was injured).
My super single…: PSG to win by 2 or more @1.65
My treble…
PSG to win by 2 or more
Valladolid vs Real Madrid..: over 3.5 goals
Yaya Touré to score anytime
Pays around 4/1
man city and both teams to score
After my nap landed today of Van Persie to score anytime and United to win @ evens paddypower i think ill go on the following treble as i see goals in these games
Man City to score 3+ goals
Hearts to score 2+ goals
Sunderland to score 2+ goals
Pays almost 7/1 and i cant see why not :)
Brilliant treble Sean Ireland. I stuck £20 on it and you’re a star!!!
Good to see you got in it m8,enjoy your winnings :)
Sean Van persie didn’t start, so the bet is void :( I was on that wincast
Try this for a tenner
Man city
Psg
Celtic
Real Madrid
Benfica
Monaco
Astra guirlui
Only 11/2??
looke a good bet
I think I’ll have a wee go on that treble, Sean! Gonna keep the stakes low just incase but I can see it probably coming in :)
Hope you’re having a good time over there, Mr F and the Leffe is going down just easily as some of those trickier putts.
Back here, it’s my third day of looking at Unders. And, so far, it’s been interesting, possibly even encouraging, though we’ve not proved anything as yet, but it’s been a good start.
I don’t have the time tonight to write these selections up, which is a shame, but I can certainly vouch for the fact that they’ve been whittled down from all possibles, they’re very definitely thought through, and I’m on them as the treble.
Azerbaijan – Premier League
Ravan v Simurq Zaqatala KO 2pm
Under 2.5 is 7/10
Belarus – Vysshyaliga
Neman v Sachter Soligorsk KO 5pm
Under 2.5 is 4/7
Romania – Liga 1
Astra v Navodari KO 6.15pm
Under 2.5 is Evens
That treble pays at 5.34.
I’m also accounting as I go on all selections as singles – just for reference/interest. It’ll be instructive to see how this pans out over time, as I suspect the singles will start to prove the value bet, but meantime, I’m persevering with going on the trebles!
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Good luck today everybody!
Thanks Kev, Hughes19 and footie fan for your comments on yesterdays thread just reading back now. :)
My results for my main betting yesterday-
Just a re-post from the wee hours on my main bets today-
So here’s my treble for today-
1) Best Bet- Dijon v Chateauroux (7.45pm) over 2.5 match goals 8/11
2) NB- Robin Van Persie (Man Utd) anytime scorer (7.45pm) 5/6 Bet365
3) Hamburger II v Werder Bremen II (3.00pm) Werder Bremen over 1.5 team goals 4/6
Treble pays 4.27/1 (4 bets all together)
4) Wil v Locarno over 2.5 match goals (6.45pm) 4/7
5) Mertens (Napoli) anytime scorer (8pm) 23/10
5-fold pays 19.73/1 (3 bets all together)
6) Istres v Lens BTTS (7.45pm) 4/7
6-fold pays 31.58/1 (2 bets all together)
Anytime scorer singles and double
Victor Ibarbo (Cagliari) anytime scorer (8pm) 6/1
Filip Kiss (Ross County) anytime scorer (7.45pm) 10/3
Double pays 19.58/1 (3 bets all together)
6 out of 8 single bets won.
Treble paying 4.27/1 WINNER!!!
5-fold paying 19.73/1 WINNER!!!
6-fold paying 31.58/1 WINNER!!!
I’m pretty pleased with that :) Think it’s the biggest winning post I’ve had since I’ve been on the site.
It’s all down hill from here! :D
Well done shaun been following your tips a while now but always miss out pn them due to working nights and forgetting to place you got any on for tonight
Thanks caz. :)
Nothing at the minute, just looking through tomorrows games at the mo.
brilliant stuff shaun follow your posts every day ,concise detailed write ups. congratulations on today’s winners couldn’t get on today
No probz mate when you looking to get them uo
Well my bets are usually up early morning and the write-ups will follow during the day before kick-offs. The write-ups are usually more useful than my bets though to be honest. :)
Thanks very much jj one. :)
The research has paid off this time! :D
I enjoy studying and doing the write-ups, if they manage to help others that’s great and I’m pleased with that. :)
you are doing very well Shaun. Your write ups are very imformative and can help others in making a decision on a punt. They are a bit long winded for some as you know but others do enjoy them. Just keep doing the research and learn as you go and trust me you are always learning in this game. Just remember never get carried away, only bet what you can afford to lose and learn how to take a loss (very important)
P.S I was on your Dijon v Chateauroux over 2.5. Cheers.
twice in a week this has happened on my bet365
Selections
No.
Selections
Event
Event Date
E/W Terms
Odds
Result
1 Over 6.5 Defence Force FC v W Connection FC
(Alternative Match Goals) 07/05/2014 None 7/4 Lost
check results am I going mad !!!
Happened last week with a bet had the team on at 11/5 plus the correct score.both won acould have cashed out 80 odd mins for 2p shy lol of returned staked but thought would just leave it coz was a cert. ended up getting stake returned and both bets void didn’t bother to chase it up but this latest stunt rippin it !!!
Shaun your write ups are mint as I said before always a good read and how could anyone not back Dijon after u pulled all that stats out wish I was on the others too but the Dijon was just a standout for me!that write up nearly doubled my safe fourfold top bloke.
My tips for the day so far:
Toure AGS
Doubles and Fourfold:
Benfica
Celtic
PSG
Monaco
Treble:
City O2.5mg
Sunderland and Hearts O1.5mg
Got a bit left in bankroll so will try and get on in work later to see what overs or BTTS tips Greg, Raal and the rest of the gang are putting up. As much as ManCity should and probably will win I have a nagging doubt and may actually stake a little on Villa getting some sort of result, shackles are off for them now and they have done it before this season.
have a go at these
Man City ti win to nil Evens betvictor
Celtic to win and BTTS v St Johnstone 3.1 @betway
Real Madrid to win and BTTS v Valladolid 2.8 @ stan james
3 double and a treble should be fine singles if youre not so confident
any thoughts
I can See Sunderland to WIN at home Tonight to make their place above drop-out zone SAFE.
With current form and at 2,00 I see Value.
Please share your thoughts.
on current form a value bet but at the end of the day sunderland are a poor team and cannot be relied on with a lot of money personnally id go draw and BTTS
Morning gents
Simple double for me today, fairly chunky stake
Hearts
Mwell
Pays 4.5/1 on hills
It’s been a season with big teams not getting the results they want. Chelsea. Liverpool. Arsenal, Man utd (if you can call them a big team) now it’s Man City turn. So I am going for MC V AST Draw @ 11/2 & 18/1 Ast V win —- £5 on each. Just to cover the bet in play if villa score 1st get on man city to win £10 should come in.
Gl
A good day yesterday with Napoli, Dundee BTTS, and Manu O2.5 MG coming in at 3.5/1.
Today I will be on:
Man C O2.5 MG
Madrid O2.5 MG
Hearts O2.5 MG
Sunderland O2.5 MG
Fourfold pays 6/1 with William Hill.
I believe Man C will be bouncing after the Liverpool result so see goals, Madrid will be looking to put a disappointing weekend behind them so also see goals. Hearts and Sunderland just seem in great form at the moment so am hopeful there will be plenty goals here too.
Good luck today everyone
FC Quasar match in Russia at 1pm. They are an attacking, young side and face opponents who have conceded 17 goals in their first three games in the league.
Imagine goal line will be set at 5.5. Worth a go for small stakes.
hmmm might look at some easly Czech Youth games. Tends to be a goal fest from what i’ve seen
Boomshackle , where is the over 2.5 match goals on the william hill site mate ?
Hearts as my super single at 85 have served me well past weeks and see no reason not to back the form team. Also have a treble of Motherwell, Kilmarnock, man city.
Well done shaun tanner – cracking result mate. Please can you lads tell me what sites you get all your info from?
Keep up the good work everyone.
Mark, on the app if you click into the fixture you’ll find total match goals over/under towards the bottom of the list. On the website click the +128 or however many markets there are, to the right of the fixture and again, it’s towards the bottom of the list.
What do we think of small stake on all 5 AFC games O1.5mg?
Mr F , any chance you can call in at Eastenders in Calais on the way back and get me 48 cases of those little bottles of bier, 36 cases of cuvee monodor white wine. Should be just enough room in the back of the transit to get a couple of boxes of Golden Virginia and 6 bottles of Bacardi on the return ferry.See dave at Eastenders , mention my name . I’m good for it .Ta
Shaun Tanner, take a bow son! :)
Terrific Stuff mate – lots of different markets and countries – testiment to hard work!
Yes well done Shaun.
Regards previous post is 4 AFC games and fourfold O1.5mg paid 7/2 on 365. Greg you fancy it?
Morning, already see some nice over 2.5 MG tips on here.
Also like Biel v Vaduz (Switzerland) for over 2.5 MG and the Singapore league is back today!
Well done Shaun. Some cracking tips again mate. Well researched and it just shows that it pays off.
Nice work Shaun :-)
I’ll be keeping my eyes open for your tips today!
The afc games don’t fill me with as much confidence as yesterdays for btts so I’m just playing this single for the moment,
Kawasaki to win and btts 3/1
Good luck
Betfair were offering 80-1 on FC Horn to beat Salzburg. Granted Salzburg are flying this season but a third division team put Salzburg out last year and went on to win the cup so I think it’s worth a small punt. Horn are at home, their form isn’t dreadful and hopefully they can pull off a shock. Football’s a funny game so here’s hoping!
Hong Kong Reserve Div today, can’t see them on 365, maybe they’ve learned their lesson with Happy Valley etc
Sorry, they’ve put up one lousy game, South China Vs Citizen , prob the worst game for goals!
Czech u19s today. Like the look of Banik v Jablonec at 11 so far, checking out the stats.
Shaun that was brilliant.
Damo am on ur kawasaki and btts game 11am better price hills 100/30.
Treble for today : man city and Motherwell over 2.5 Groningen v vitesse btts
Cheers big shifty!
Just like PRINTING MONEY!
Ladies World Cup Qualifiers
‘CAPS’ are my chosen team
KAZAKHSTAN V Bulgaria DNB
Malta V ISRAEL WIN
*CZECH REPUBLIC V Romania DNB
BELARUS V Turkey WIN
Belgium V NETHERLANDS DNB
*REPUBLIC OF IRELAND V Russia DOUBLE CHANCE
*these games are more of a risk not sure if I am going to include them yet?
Anyone one like to add there 2cents?
Odds around 6.1
Hi chaps
I hope a few had a tickle on Sion last night.
I went to see gooners against west brom on Sunday.
West brom dreadful.
I can’t see past Sunderland at just over even money. With the momentum they have at mo.
A good single or
Chuck them in with
Man city, psg , Monaco for a 7/2 4 fold
Good luck
Sunderland Motherwell hearts celtic st mirren 5 fold
Azerbaijan league K.O. 14:00
Ravan V Simurk zaqatala
Ravan sit bottom of the league don’t score much and concede goals for fun by the looks of it. Simurk are mid table and going ok.
Looks one sided but the price of 17/10 for Simurk is too good not to take.
All previous 5 results of this match Simurk have won to nil.
Back Simurk to win.
Simurk to win to nil.
Morning gents, managed to start with a winner in DB’s series courtesy of Dijon! Will post today’s series bet shortly!
There are 4 SPL matches today – I’l be honest, the matches between Hearts & Partick and Kilmarnock & St Mirren look too tough to call! Would advise no bet on these Games!
St Johnstone v Celtic
I’ve been impressed with Celtic recently, they’ve been clinical in front of goal and with Commons, stokes and Griffthes playing they are a real threat! Matches between these two in Perth have generally been close affairs ( 0-1 1-1 2-1 0-2 0-1 2-3) last 6 matches! I’m pretty sure minds will son start wandering to the cup final next saturadau and despite the closeness of the games over the last few seasons, I think Celtic will win this comfortable 0-2 or 0-3
Motherwell v Inverness
The home fans can’t say they haven’t been entertained this season, 14 of their last 15 matches have gone over 2.5 goals with 12 of this matches seeing BTTS! The well have been terrific at home scoring 2 or more in 9 of their last 10 and have been beaten just once in those matches! Sutton has had a good season and with the pace of Ainsworth they are a tough team to beat at fir park! ICT season has fizzled out since their cup final defeat and I don’t see them picking up anything here! Motherwell should not be odds against!
Back Motherwell 11/10
Over 1.5 Motherwell team goals 4/5
i think motherwell win tonight keep it till last game of season against aberdeen for 2nd place
Matrogtt, will have a dabble in that mate :)
My only bet of the day is Villa double chance, even though City are at home i think the pressure will be on and there will be another twist in the race for the title….only getting 9/2 for it though which is rubbish odds but for a small bet out of interest it’s ok
Tonyboy, that Russian match goal line is set at 4, with odds of 1.9
Worth a bite mate?
Motherwell vs Inverness O2.5 gls
Hearts vs Partick O2.5 gls
Double 2/1
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN PREMIER LEAGUE
COCKBURN V ARMADALE 13.30
OVER 4.5 GOALS EVENS (HILLS) ** MAIN BET **
OVER 5.5 GOALS 21/10 (HILLS) ** SMALLER BET **
Cockburns last 3 home league games have seen 6,5 and 5 goals and Armadales last 2 away league games have seen 4 and 6 goals. Both teams struggle to defend and Cockburn can score regularly home or away so a target of 5 goals is quite feasible and a small bet on 6 or more is worth the chance.
Shaun tanner I hail you bro keep it up. I have seen you picks on many occasions you are a gem
Just to let u know raal ,I’m in perth W.A. At the moment and it’s absolutely pissing down rain if that would affect ur betting this match in anyway
Be good to hear petermacs view on the hiroshima – wsw game. Wonder how much the lost final will have taken out of wanderers.
The odds are too good not to bet on the hearts and Killy games
Kinda fancy the home teams in both games
id be wary of backing hearts , partick need points for to be safe, although hearts been playing well,,maybe a draw will ensue
motherwell should win
celtic win
hearts draw no bet
to petermac thanks for your thoughts on the afc game after reading them i did a draw/hiroshime ht/ft bet please keep them coming
Apologies for not posting. Having severe issues with my phone. Not charging. Thoughts on tonights wanderers game is that I watched the final on sunday and it was a hard shift for wsw and unlucky in the end. My bet was home win for sanfrecce. Probably 1-0 as wsw will be tired but also determined to get a result after Sunday. Think the goal will come in second half due to tiredness. Wsw would ve happy with a 1-0.in play 1st goal sanfrecce is 1.83 and final score 1-0 to sanfrecce is 4.33 and win second half at 2.30 are my thoughts
Cheers peter I was also thinking a narrow hiroshima win, think I’ll hold off and if it’s still 0-0 around 55mins take the home win.
So here’s my treble for today-
1) Best Bet- Young Boys v Aarau (6.45pm) Young Boys over 1.5 team goals 1/2
2) NB- Dimitar Berbatov (Monaco) anytime scorer 6/4 bet365 (6.00pm)
3) Wohlen v Chiasso (6.45pm) over 2.5 match goals 8/11
Treble pays 5.21/1 (4 bets all together)
4) FC Koper v NK Triglav Kranj (7pm) FC Koper over 1.5 team goals 4/9
5) Dzeko (Man City) anytime scorer (7.45pm) 4/5 betfair
5-fold pays 13.96/1 (3 bets all together)
6) AC Milan U19 V Udinese U19 (2pm) over 2.5 match goals 8/15
6-fold pays 22.90/1 (2 bets all together)
Anytime scorer singles and double
Kris Boyd (Kilmarnock) anytime scorer (7.45pm) 11/8 paddypower
Yaya Toure (Man City) anytime scorer (7.45pm) 5/4 unibet
Double pays 3.83/1 (3 bets all together)
I’ve also had a small punt on Berbatov first goal 9/2 and added Kris Boyd anytime scorer to the 6-fold above making a 7-fold paying 53.99/1- very small punt on that. :D
Young Boys v Aarau 6.45
Young Boys last 5 home and away read- W2 D2 L1
Aarau last 5 home and away read- W1 L4
Young Boys last 5 at home in the league read- W2 D1 L2. They have scored in 3 and conceded in 4, they also conceded over 1.5 team goals in 3/5. Over 2.5 match goals has appeared in 4/5 and BTTS in 3/5.
Aaraus last 5 games away in the league read- W1 L4 and have lost the last 4. They have scored in 2/5 and conceded in 5/5, they also conceded over 1.5 team goals in 4/5. Over 2.5 match goals has appeared in 3/5 while BTTS has come up in 2/5.
Young Boys last 5 at home in the league score lines read (from most recent)- 0-0, 2-1, 0-4, 1-3 and 5-3.
Aaraus last 5 away in the league score lines read (from most recent)- 2-0, 2-0, 4-1, 5-0, 1-2.
Young Boys are currently 3rd in the domestic league with 49 points from 32 games. They are currently 10 points behind 2nd place Grasshopper with 4 games left to play so are really just playing to cement 3rd spot and are 1 point ahead of 4th placed team Luzern.
Aarau are currently 9th (2nd bottom) but sit 16 points ahead of bottom team Lausanne so can rest easy for the rest of the season and are simply playing for a better league position. They are level on points with 8th placed Sion with a game in hand.
Young Boys home record in the league so far this season reads- W8 D2 L5 F25 A22. They have the 4th best goals for record at home in the league but also have the 3rd worst goals against record at home in the league.
Aaraus away record in the league so far this season reads- W5 D1 L10 F17 A34. They have the 2nd worst goals against record away from in the league.
H2H games- In the last 8 games between these 2 teams home and away in the league Young Boys have won 7 and lost 1. They have scored in 8/8 and have scored over 1.5 team goals in 6/8. Over 2.5 match goals has appeared in 7/8 and over 3.5 match goals in 4/8.
The score lines for these 8 games were (from most recent)- 2-1, 3-0, 0-4, 1-5, 3-1, 4-0, 0-3 and 0-1.
In this same fixture over the last 3 games Young Boys have won all 3, the score lines in these games were (from most recent)- 3-0, 3-1 and 4-0.
So for this one it was between Young Boys team goals or the over match goals for me.
In the end I’ve gone for Young Boys team goals at a slightly better price. This is based on Young Boys ability to score both recently and overall at home this season. Aaraus have the second worst defence away from home but overall home and away they have the worst conceding 64 goals. This is 4 more than bottom side Lausanne and that stat alone looks pretty bad on them. Also the recent H2H game’s have seen goals and Young Boys team goals so that looks promising.
So with no pressure on these teams at this stage of the season I’m hoping for a open game with no caution from either team.
There maybe a number of options here but like I say I’m on the team goals but may take up a couple of other markets in play.
Hope the info helps :)
excellent write up shaun thanks mate
Lendog, I’ve given it a go for small stakes, yes.
It’s not often I’ll post a 4 fold but going to go small stakes on 4 matches I fancy goals in! Thy are bit too short to back as singles although you could do a double
Grasshoppers v St Gallan
Young boys v Aarau
Groningen v Vitesse
AZ v Heerenveen
It pays just under 5/1
Greg, I like this and will follow but leave AZ – they tend to come up with games in 1-2 goals often, don’t they?
Thanks to footie fan, leveller, Greg, Mattrogtt, Bingo, Yesevil and BillD. Sorry just reading back through the posts, nice words guys. :)
I now spend any spare time I have studying! haha. I think it will be a while though before I have a repeat performance of last night but I will keep going at it! :D
What is peoples thoughs on the goals market in the Ayr vs Cowdenbeath game. Both teams look well capable of scoring and conceeding. Either BTTS or Ov.2.5 with Hearts, Celtic, Real & PSG……
Greg they be over 2.5 goals or BTTS?
Just stuck a small stake double on the 2 AFC games at half time,going purely on Zstats n for some early interest
Kawasaki Fontale @Evens
Western Sydney wanderers @7/2
Pays 8/1
Greg is your fourfold a over 2.5 bet ? Or btts?
1-0 sanfrecce
Typical FC seoul has one shot on target and they score -_-, come on Kawasaki.
Hiroshima score 3 minutes too early for me to get on!
Well least that’s the btts part in for Kawasaki btts and win, they look dominant so hopefully they can find the winner now. Took over 1.5 goals at ht at evens. Steal!
Has anyone got any thoughts on norrkoping v atvidaberg btts I’ve done abit of reasearch not since 2009 have these teams not both score at 8 -13 isn’t the worst good shout for a single?
Damo – Kawasaki BTTS and WIN looking Good!
2-1!
DB SERIES
PSYCHOMETRY 2.15 CHESTER
TO BE PLACED 5/6 BET365 (11/10 WITH HILLS)
I put a bet on Hiroshima at half time just before I checked on here so I’m glad people on here seem to agree, also reading through, great call on Kawasaki BTTS and win, last time I looked it was 0-0, now 2-1. Brilliant yet again Damo.
Oh dear raal you are sunk my friend …. This I have already backed !! Step up in trip looks sure to suit !
William, I will double my stake now mate :) Ladbrokes were 4/1 this morning yet everyone else went 6/1 or more. That swung it for me, best of luck.
Anyone on the btts and win, double chance for seoul is 7/2, the btts and win was 100/30 so we can’t lose now! :)
Mine today is
ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE
SUNDERLAND v WEST BROM
OVER 3.5 MATCH CARDS
365 2.050 on the Asian, pays very slightly better than in normal market
2-1 kawasaki would love a third goal to ease the nerves on a bad run had a decent bet on this thanks for the tip either way having a run for my money , shame theres no cash out option on this market but I backed the single also at evens good luck all
I couldn’t choose between the obrien and his den runners so chickened out and backed the stoute runner lol hope I don’t skud ya mate :)
O’Briens is a likely winner William but at this track you just never know.
Raal, after last Days defeats in Horses (all soccer profits have been eaten up by the damn horses) I promised my self to let the horses be alone forever, but hmm I am having a hard time not going on your Suggested tip… Yes or No? No or Yes?….
A small bet won’t hurt Daniel ;)
halfway there on the o1.5 goals in the 4 Asian champions league
lgood call on the kawasaki game damo. My 1-0 is out the window but 1.83 sanfrecce first goal and 2.3 second half win gotta be happy with. Also followed your shout damo on kawasaki and doubled that up with sanfrecce home win. Nice little end to my Australian day should scores stay the same. Hoping now tje jambos, madrid and sunderland will give me something nice to wake up to. Looking forward to next season with hearts, my team rangers and probably hibs in the championship. May even keep my $20 a month setanta subscription
I could only get 9/4 not 7/2 with bet365 for the over 1.5 mg in the four AFC games? The two later games are the ones I would be most concerned with but hopefully they’ll fly in also!
damo i got 3/1 on the 4 so they were obviously changing all the times
Be last time a bet on a game going by half time stats! Hiroshimo sure put there shooting boots on at HT. $1.50 down :'(
:P
Looks a good horse on breeding raal let’s hope Moore gives it the kitchen sink treatment :)
Very very very soft penalty for wanderers. There’s the BTTS
Double FC Seoul Win + Sydney WIN
1 € gives 20 138 €
Worth a Chance :)!
Thats why I needed that 3 rd goal :( bad run continues
Stephen draw was 6/1 and Seoul was 125/1 at about 75 mins, so could have put a bit on those as cover.
Goal Seoul, :( Least we could cover.
:( Well If I get 1 more from Seoul and 2 from Sydney 20 000 € will do….
Guys anyone on the Israel Women’s v Malta at 1PM
Odds are 1.28 at betfair should be an Israel Win
Not over yet, Kawasaki seems agressive – We hope for a Goal yet!
Im not much of a cover person even though it makes sense but I also had the win for kawasaki so was holding out for maximum profit maybe the cash out option was the way forward, thats the way it goes
Just my like statistical Kawasaki dominated the game and then whenever Seoul threatens they struggle.
Needing a yon mad miracle here Daniel
I’ve cashed out my draw for a touch less than the returns so a goal for either would be welcomed. 125/1 for Seoul would actually be better!
As a liverpoop fan aston villa have no hope tonight, man city 3-0 4-0
Thank you Seoul. …not! Oh well. Onwards and upwards
Seoul 3-2, why didnt I make them also as singels….
Damo, did you get the Seoul single at 125/1?
Well I never saw that coming they actually went to 150/1 on 365 think I should pack in lol
No worries. Glad you got on. Kawasaki a big let down but not too bad all in
Afternoon Gents
Overs Series
Clyde – East Fife 4/5 (Scotland Play-offs)
Norrkoping – Atvidaberg 4/5 (Sweden Allsvenskan)
Varberg – GAIS 4/5 (Sweden Superettan)
Xmarine85
The afc games don’t fill me with as much confidence as yesterdays for btts so I’m just playing this single for the moment,
Kawasaki to win and btts 3/1
Good luck
*LOST*
Sorry that the original bet lost but that’s the way it goess! However, I gave the heads up that we had the easiest cover potential not just to get your stake back you could have guaranteed decent profit. Sitting on an 125/1 winner from the Seoul comeback now! Even better than if Seoul had won.
*sorry even better than if Kawasaki had won!
INDONESIA V MYANMAR UNDER 19’S KICKING OFF
OVER 2.5 MATCH GOALS 4/6 bet365
Nice One Damo, I hope your stake was High :)
I had £50 on the btts and win at 100/30 so £166.60 profit if it came in. Double chance was removed for some reason so stuck £10 on the draw at 6/1 and the other £1.6 on the win at 125/1 so £201.60 back. Happy days but obviously would have liked others to have won from the original bet and Kawasaki held out.
Afternoon gents. Anyone fancy Dunfermline tonight? Won their last 5 games against Stranraer?
**Last 5 of 6
Malta Women v Israel Women, Over 3.5 MG is Evens and Over 1.5 fhg is 11/10 on bet365. On Raals overs bet as well. Good Luck!
Looking at it, stranraers form has been shit recently, I think the bookies have priced it wrong.
I agree mate, also like the look of Clyde at home to East Fife decent prices on both Clyde and Dunfermline could be a decent wee double
Shaun
Following some of your posts but there are a few things I don’t understand, forgive me I’m pretty new to this. In your post above you name a treble but in brackets you have (4bets in alltogether). And similary with the rest, like 5- fold (three bets altogether).
I thought a treble was just one bet requiring all three results? How is it 4 bets altogether? Same with a five fold I thought it was just one bet?.
Like I said excuse my naivety I’m a bit of a novice, just need an explanation.
Cheers mate, and thanks for the good reading.
4 of 5 bets in Czech u19s so far,
Had >1.5fhg and 3.5ftg and a >2.5 double in Karvina and Jablonec matches. Smaller stakes for singles higher for double.
Going for small stakes again >1.5fhg >3.5 ftg BANÍK OSTRAVA U19 VS. ČESKÉ BUDĚJOVICE U19 2pm
Love this league.
I didn’t even use your tip Damo gutted I did now as I would’ve read the cover option and would’ve stuck £10 on that truly am gutted now lol.
I have had my butties and Im ready to make some money on your aussie game raal son thanks. Im not a fan of aussies I watched a tv show once called Bondi rescue I could not stand their accents
slippers son he is perming them
Best of luck burt. The games tonight are the bread and butter tips mate ;)
AYR V COWDENBEATH
STIRLING V ANNAN
BOTH TO SCORE DOUBLE PAYS 5/4 (£20)
STRANRAER V DUNFERMLINE
BOTH TO SCORE TREBLE PAYS 9/4 (£10)
KILMARNOCK V ST MIRREN
BOTH TO SCORE 4 FOLD PAYS 4/1 (£5)
Stakes are just advice but the double needs to land for a guaranteed profit and anything after becomes a bonus but quite possible for 4 from 4 with that little bit of luck. That is 4 posts that includes everything from me today and tonight so best of luck.
Make that 3 posts, 1 horse post and 2 football posts.
Will Monaco be a both teams to score job?
SUNDERLAND – West Bromwich
To WIN – SUNDERLAND at 2,25 x 5 units
BTTS at 1,75 – 5 units
I Think SUnderland would Very Much like to have this win in front of their Fans and to be SAFE in PL for Next season.
I Can see WB Score But and I really Can not see WB Win to nil against Sunderland.
Now if this game ends 0-0 or WB Win to nil , then shame on me…
Am not so lucky a dun damo.s kawasaki btts win then had to work.
Another bet out of boredom on for small stake…over 2.5 in both
Harimau Nuda v Woodlands Wellingto 1.45 KO
Bunyondkor v Al Hilal 2.00 KO
Pays…2.5/1. :P
And am out till tonight with that bet.
Good luck to rest of use today. :)
Hi Damo,
Could not find Kawasaki win and btts on Bet365, so went with btts and over 2.5 instead.
Also on an ov 1.5 goals four fold of AFC games today.
First 2 in
Thanks
Nice one Neil, worked out pretty well for me even though my original bet never came in. Cashed out my cover on the draw when it was 2-2 and then the 125/1 cover landed!
Good luck with the over 1.5 goals four fold! Think mattrogtt highlighted it! Need a goal in the Hilal game but this one looked the trickiest of the four!
Slipper hope Shaun doesn’t mind me answering but he means 4 bets of 3 singles and one treble and then for the fourfold is 2 bets as already done 3 of the singles so 1 single 1 fourfold and so on….
Cant find the Cockburn game so finishing days card with Simurk to nil
Cockburn game is on Hills mate, 1-1 after 20 minutes.
2-1 Cockburn, cheers mate Armadale down to 10 men also
lol correction 3-1
William, over 2.5 goals mate
Daniel, you are right about AZ and it’s probably the riskiest of the 4
Tonyboy, cracking shout mate with Quazar, 0-3 so cash out is nearly 90% but being greedy I will await the 4th goal for 100% :)
malta women vs israel women – draw (10/1) worth a small stake
Cheers Tonyboy over 3.5 landed ;)
My internets down so im posting off my not so good phone at the minute. Flandroy-no worries mate. Slipper- think the kind guys have answered your question mate, sorry for the late reply. :-)
FC Quasar match in Russia at 1pm. They are an attacking, young side and face opponents who have conceded 17 goals in their first three games in the league.
Imagine goal line will be set at 5.5. Worth a go for small stakes.
WIN!! Currently 8-1 and 25 mins left. Get on board lads and I’ll write more after I finish this meeting.
tony excellent pick, congrats mate
That’s where speaking Russian helps , Raal. V little info on these lads except on one Russian forum :)) They are goal crazy!
Final twist tonight to this seasons premier league campaign.
Aston Villa 18/1 @ 888sport
Heart ruling your head mate?
Mattrogtt
Thanks mate think I have it now, I was starting to think of trixies and the such, but still couldn’t make sense of it. Appreciate you taking the time to explain.
Shaun consider my question answered. Cheers both.
Regards
Slipper
I got James Wilson to score first and United to win 3-1 last night. only got 45/1 for it
Just had a walk to the library put your bets on as 4fold raal and backed my horse. Cup of tea and a custard slice and wait for the winnings to come in ;)
Best of luck burt mate.
Mmmm not had a custard slice for yonks burt
Real and city over 3.5 , sunderland and btts 15/1
William, over 2.5 goals mate
Daniel, you are right about AZ and it’s probably the riskiest of the 4
Nice tip with Cockburn City Raal- over 4.5 goals is in! I opened a WH account for that one- much appreciated!
Nice one robroy. Western Australia is a gold mine and myself and Greg will exploit it for the next couple of months mate so your Hills account will be very handy.
4 of 5 bets in Czech u19s so far,
Had >1.5fhg and 3.5ftg and a >2.5 double in Karvina and Jablonec matches. Smaller stakes for singles higher for double.
Going for small stakes again >1.5fhg >3.5 ftg BANÍK OSTRAVA U19 VS. ČESKÉ BUDĚJOVICE U19 2pm
Love this league.
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That’s 6 from 7 in for the day, good stuff and a hefty profit.
Will be having a wee bit on >1.5 Motherwell goals later after seeing Greg’s tip, maybe double with Celtic >1.5.
Had a wee punt on Shaun’s six fold and the first has came in (over 2.5 goals in AC Milan U19s v Udinese U19s, currently 2-1 Udinese) so hopefully there’s more to come in! Thanks Shaun :D
Cheers Greg I assumed that was the plan so my tenners placed n all ! :)
Nice tipping on the Cockburn v Armadale match Raal. I had a mate that used to see a wee bird from Armadale and he ended up with a heavy dose of Cockburn…
Howdy Folks
Am I missing something? Sunderland v West Brom? Nobody else thinks this has draw written all over it? Tip tap the ball round the middle and for God’s sakes do not leave yourself exposed at the back. A draw will do both so why would wither side commit to getting players forward?
Is it just me? Really?
Anyhoo, I think I have lost the run of myself today. 6 bets on a Wednesday is a little unusual and in complete honesty, I haven’t researched them to the depths I would like or am used to (DISCLAIMER) excepting the Scottish games.
Greg, I am delighted to see that you and I are on the same plane for the Scottish Premiership. Motherwell and a handicapped Celtic are my shouts, also. I also see goals in both Lg 1 playoff games, a wee BTTS double and sure why not?
NM CUPEN. have we forgotten about that after the, for the most part, 1 leg let downs from the first round? There are still a lot of mismatched out there so keep an eye out in play. I am going ti=o have a more in-depth look the now but going with an 8-team acca @ a little over 5/1.
Been talking about Elfsborg for a while. Goals prices are poor unless you venture towards 4+. Elfsborg can score goals though so if you’re brave there might be some money in it. I am doubling them with Hacken who are also showing good form and that will do me.
Eng Prem Sunderland v West Brom DRAW @ 3.1
Scot Prem MOTHERWELL v Inverness @ 2.101
St. Johnstone v CELTIC -1AH @ 1.7
Scot Lge 1Stirling/Annan, Clyde/East Fife BTTS @ 2.691
NM Cupen Mjondalen, Sarpsborg, Tromso, Stromsgodset, Bodo/Glimt, Start, Lillestrom, Aalesund, @ 6.624
Swed All Elfsborg, Hacken @ 1.86
Good luck everyone.
Cheers Tonyboy , made a note of your early post . had them all the way to O11.5mg.
Raal ,level stakes is the way for sure. Getting my balance on the way back up through your advice on here. Ta
burt , got myself a Bavarian slice for later !
Fathead, nobody will lose long term on here betting level stakes mate ;)
Sunderland and wba dnt need anything in reality
89th min goal and a 90 min penalty to myaymar, nice one Raal, it was looking doubtful! :)
INDONESIA V MYANMAR UNDER 19′S KICKING OFF
OVER 2.5 MATCH GOALS 4/6 Bet365
*** WON :) ***
KEEP THE FAITH FOR 90+ MINUTES :)
WESTERN AUSTRALIAN PREMIER LEAGUE
COCKBURN V ARMADALE 13.30
OVER 4.5 GOALS EVENS (William Hill) ** MAIN BET **
OVER 5.5 GOALS 21/10 (William Hill) ** SMALLER BET **
Cockburns last 3 home league games have seen 6,5 and 5 goals and Armadales last 2 away league games have seen 4 and 6 goals. Both teams struggle to defend and Cockburn can score regularly home or away so a target of 5 goals is quite feasible and a small bet on 6 or more is worth the chance.
*** WON :) *** 2 FROM 2 :) ***
Haha that u19s game went to the wire! Two red cards aswell!
Good stuff Raal! These Australian leagues are full of goals!
Thanks Mr Orange.
Ayr V Cowdenbeath
This game looks likely for goals with over 2.5 and 3.5 in with a good shout.
My main bet lumpy stake will be Cowdenbeath over 1.5 23/20(Hills).
Ayr always concede at home and looking at their stats visiting teams are having a healthy amount of shots on target. Stenhoumuir scored 3 recently.
The other reason i like this bet is that i am of the opinion that their is a marked difference in quality from division 1 and the championship.
Just to give you one more reason of my confidence is Kane Hemmings the championship player of the year and you know he must be a player if Ally McCoist released him. Im hearing he is off to play in the top league next year and with 18 goals in a much superior league 23/20 Bet Victor appeals.
Tips
Cowdenbeath over 1.5 goals 23/20
Kane Hemmings anytime goalscorer 23/20
Over 2.5 13/20
Over 3.5 8/5
Good Luck
Going for a bit of a longer odds treble today.
MONACO VS. GUINGAMP
Monaco -1 @ 2.75
GRASSHOPPER VS. ST. GALLEN
Grasshoppers -1 @ 2.45
RONINGEN VS. VITESSE btts
Yes @ 1.44
£5 treble returns £48.65
Greg
your fourfold is over 2,5 match goals?
Great tip tonyboy on the russian game,keep em coming please, a week ago I had good funds and would have won loads but after a terrible few days could only risk a small stake,hopefully back on track now thanks for you
I’ll go for 5-1 tonight for city. i’ve been succesfull at placing ht scoring bets, not ft score bets. Villa are their hopping rabbits for the hunt tonight. You can barely call them football players, more like jumping ducks.
Not a tip but taking a small punt btts and draw in the Al Sadd -Foolad game at 10/3
Norkopping V Atvidaberg
btts and over 2.5 goals
11/10
Good luck
That shakter donesk game was a nightmare, went to extra time then they decided to score 3 goals, with the other team only managing something like on attempt.
Used more devices today than a Hollywood script writer so being moderated out of existence.
My NM CUPEN goals nap is…
Strommen v Asker +3.5 & +1.5 FHG
Also
Stord v SK Brann
Strindheim v Molde (if line opens at 4.5 or less)
Small stakes as goals not my bag.
Good luck everyone
just had my afternoon nap, cheers raal son for that aussie game I was only saying this morn how much I love the aussies :) think I can afford an egg to go wiv my chops tonight!
Enjoy that Bavarian fathead son
Welcome burt, enjoy your egg n chops mate ;)
Free loyalty fiver at Bet365.
Sunderland draw no bet 1/2
City v Villa over 3.0 Asian cards
Returns £13.87 but both could be void which wouldn’t be a disaster
Tony boy / Raal , good work again gents! Wasn’t able to get in any of then so I’m not beat pleased, haha!
DB series – Bet 2
Stranraer v Dunfermline KO 7.45pm
JJ has done a pretty decent job this season and had done was was asked for, finished second. And got the pars into the playoffs! He has brought in a couple of experiencesd players and they have done well for him! They competed well with Eangers on Saturday drawing 1-1 and that should see them In good stead down to the Dunfries and Galloway! Stranraer have really struggled recently although they did get back to wining ways on Saturday! The pars will be looking to head back to Fife with an advantage!
Back Dunfermline 21/20
Afternoon gentleman :) Tempted by Sunderland, and also would love the regulars opinion on Motherwell, particularly those residing in Scotland :)
Honda, the place is a sh*thole ;)
Guys anyone on the Israel Women’s v Malta at 1PM
odds are 1.28 at Betfair should be an Israel Win
—-WIN—
Just checked it Israel came through 2-0 Get In!
In fact, St Mirren as well :)
Even worse place, Paisley, it is still 1972 there ;)
Knock another century off that and we might be close haha!
Raal / Greg have you guys got any super single either BTTS or over 2.5 Match Goals, Thanks
Man city
Celtic
R Madrid
Patrick
Kilmarnock draw
Monaco
Ps
honda is desperate for some dosh :)
Haha, wouldn’t say desperate, gambling money is separate from my proper money, one looks great, the other could do with a little work rebuilding :)
Theres a couple of games coming up at 5 that might be good for goals. Beroe v lyubimets- match goals and a game involving a team called esbjerg- maybe team goals or match goals, cant remember which. Sorry my phones as slow as can be and still no proper internet to look at. :-(
GRONINGEN TO BEAT VITESSE – 6/4 (5:45pm)
Play-off stage of the Eredevise but Groningen won their last 6 league games to make these play offs whereas Vitesse fell apart in their last 7, drawing 4 and losing 3. They lost their last 3 away games and with the momentum being so strong with Groningen, 6/4 looks a big price to me.
Im working at the min and only have my mobile. Can anyone let me know of decent aps for keeping up with scores and stats? Im on android cheers.
Vandra v Irbis KO 5pm
Just about to kick off in Estonia!
Worth small 1.5 fhg & 3.5 match goals 10/11 11/10
Groningen
Dunfermline
Monaco
6/1
Got on the esbjerg game eventually. Over 2.5 mg 4/6 & over 1.5 fh goal 6/4. Couldnt see the other game. :-(
Jaggy, just for you mate ;) Off to Tynie to see the mighty Jambo’s so best of luck one and all tonight :)
AYR V COWDENBEATH
STIRLING V ANNAN
BOTH TO SCORE DOUBLE PAYS 5/4 (£20)
STRANRAER V DUNFERMLINE
BOTH TO SCORE TREBLE PAYS 9/4 (£10)
KILMARNOCK V ST MIRREN
BOTH TO SCORE 4 FOLD PAYS 4/1 (£5)
Stakes are just advice but the double needs to land for a guaranteed profit and anything after becomes a bonus but quite possible for 4 from 4 with that little bit of luck. That is 4 posts that includes everything from me today and tonight so best of luck.
Gronigen & BTTS 3/1 @bet365
Gronigens last 3 home games have seen this come in whilst Vitesses last 3 away games have.
Gronigen also won 3-1 against Vitesse a few games ago.
Leveller, flash scores have an app for android provides live scores for the majority of leagues including obscure leagues
raal is hearts gonna try tonite/?
Mick we will try without doubt but will get a better test against Partick than we did against Kilmarnock mate. A draw is a possibility.
Thanks Raal Il have me some of that mate & have a good one watching the mighty Jamboroonies!
CAheers Jaggy and good luck mate, my chariot has arrived. Ching Ching guys ;)
Cheers, lads. I might try a mini Russian series with lower league matches. I may only put up 3-4 tips a week and it will include Baltics game that Greg has made so profitable for us all.
Hl
Leveller try Flashscores mate or Soccerway
Gkl
I use Futbol24 on IOS. Have a look for an Android version. It provides scores for almost everything and also links to the previous results and tables for a bit of stat-finding. You can also add games to favourites and get notifications on your device when a goal is scored – which it sometimes does quicker than they appear on 365!
Sofascore is good if you have an android. You can favorite games and teams and it’s push notifications are pretty good too. Also has a nice little widget to keep track of all your favorite games.
Bet of night has got to be over 3.5 @ the etihad
Took some of you guys’ advice and put on Groningen to win and they just conceded a penalty!!! Thankfully it was saved – the bet is still on!;)
Any professional footballer who can’t score from the penalty spot should be shot in the face . That is all.
Celtic
Real Madrid
Man City
PSG
Over 1.5 team goals 4 fold pays 7/4 on 365.
Celtic are the only team with nothing to play for but if Greg’s predicting a 2 or 3 goal win I’m happy to go with them. I think the others speak for themselves
Celtic will have a lot of fringe players playing tonight but should still manage 2 goals.
Wohlen v Chiasso 6.45
Wohlen last 5 games home and away read- W1 L4
Chiasso last 5 home and away read- W2 D1 L2
Wohlens last 5 home league games read- W3 D1 L1. They have scored in 4 and conceded in 2. Over 2.5 match goals has came up in 3/5 (their last 3 at home) and they have scored over 1.5 team goals in 2/5.
Chiassos last 5 away league games read- W1 D2 L2. They have conceded in all 5 games and scored in 4. Over 2.5 match goals has appeared in 2/5 and BTTS in 4/5.
Wohlens last 5 at home in the league score lines (from most recent)- 3-0, 0-3, 2-2, 1-0 and 1-0.
Chiassos last 5 away in the league score lines (from most recent)- 2-0, 1-1, 1-1, 1-4 and 5-2.
Wohlen are bottom of the domestic league with 24 points from 32 games. Their home record this season reads- W4 D5 L7 F19 L28. Overall they have the 2nd worst home record in the league and have the 2nd worst goals against record.
Chiasso are 2 places higher in 8th with 28 points from 32 games. Their away record reads- W1 D6 L9 F14 A26. Overall they have the 2nd worst away record in the league. They don’t score many away from home but I noticed they have scored at least once in 7 of their last 8 away league games.
H2H games- In the last 8 games between these 2 team home and away in the league Wohlen have W3 D3 L2. They have scored in 5/8 and have scored over 1.5 team goals in 5/8. Over 2.5 match goals has appeared in 5/8, over 3.5 match goals in 4/8 and BTTS in 5/8.
The score lines in these 8 games were (from most recent)- 0-0, 2-2, 3-1, 2-2, 0-3, 1-3, 0-1 and 1-0.
In this same fixture in the last 3 games Wohlen have W1 D1 L1.
The score lines in these games were (from most recent)- 3-1, 2-2 and 0-1
So Wohlen need the points to climb out of the relegation place, they are 1 point behind 2nd bottom Locarno but have 1 game in hand. There is only 4 games left total for them so they running out of time and games now. Chiasso are 4 points ahead of Wohlen and will not want to lose this game either and get sucked back into the dog fight.
Anyways I’ve gone for the overs on this one. Based purely on Wohlen needing points but having a lousy home record this season (though it has improved of late) and being half decent in the past at home v Chiasso. Chiasso have an awful away record overall this season but have shown they can score away (7 in the last 8) so hopefully they can contribute to the goal tally.
So this is a real 6 pointer for both teams and my only worry would be is if Chiasso sit back and play for the draw. A goal for either team however in the 1st half will surely open this game up though.
Will get on in-play with a couple of bets in this one I think as well.
Hope the info helps! (sorry its a bit of a rushed job.) :)
Wohlen game in-play BTTS 4/7 and over 1.5 fh goals 6/4
Young boys game in-play YB over 1.5 team goals 1/2 and over 2.5 team goals 13/8
Double over Wohlen over 1.5 fh goals & Young boys over 2.5 team goals- 5.56/1
2 fairly crazy bets for me tonight.
Every game in Scotland over 1.5. 8 fold at 3/1
All 4 lower league Scottish ties btts at 4.5/1
Ive got a decent tip for tonight would like opinions
Man city over 2 cards @ 11/2 ladbrokes
Any opinions i think its fantastic value
Norrkoping looking like a great shout Damo. Just need that 3rd goal in the 2nd half :)
Strommen 3-0 Asker +3.5 LOSE & +1.5 FHG WIN
Also
Stord 1-2 Brann +3.5 LOSE & +1.5FHG LOSE
Think I will leave the goals to those with the knowhow for now.
NM Cupen 8 team acca let down by two, Stromsgodset and TROMSO AGAIN!
Hopefully tonight will be better.
Warning to anyone going daft with Celtic, apart from a few defenders it’s a complete reserve side.
St Johnstone have about half the team that lost 2-1 at Motherwell playing.
Celtic should still win but handicaps more risky and BTTS now a fair possibility.
Wow
Motherwell have performed well at home this season losing just 4 times. They have won 3 of their last 4 home games that includes a 2-0 win over Inverness back in March. They love a goal having found the net in 87.5% of their home games scoring 32 goals. They have scored at least once in their last 7 games too. They have been prone to conceding goals though having let in 24 goals at an average of 1.5 goals per game and they have conceded at least once in 68.7% of home games. There is entertainment when Motherwell play at home and 81.3% of their home games have finished over 2.5 goals and 50% of home games have finished over 3.5 goals.
Inverness have played well at times this season but have won just once in their last 4 away games. Inverness have struggled to score away goals though having failed to register in 41.2% of their away games. They average 1 goal scored per game and they have found the net in their last 2 away games. At the back they have been pretty solid having kept a clean sheet in 47.1% of those away games. There are not as many highscoring games that Inverness are involved in with 41.2% of away games ending with over 2.5 goals.
Motherwell look too strong at home and there is a bit of value in backing them especially when Inverness have won just once at Motherwell since 2006.
Selection: Motherwell v Inverness, back Motherwell to win @ 23-20
source ukfn
Sunderland, Motherwell and St Mirren wins for you king kong ball gamblers ;) ;)
I’ve gone for a speculative MR + BTTS treble tonight.
Man City
Celtic
Real Madrid
Treble pays 20/1 @ Coral
Dunfermline 23/20
Ryan Stevenson missing for Hearts tonight and our reserve keeper starts #sendinghibsdown
Unlucky with the treble The UHT, one goal in the final minute looks to have ruined it.. :(
top treble
Man city
Celtic
PSG
GRONINGEN TO BEAT VITESSE – 6/4 (5:45pm)
Play-off stage of the Eredevise but Groningen won their last 6 league games to make these play offs whereas Vitesse fell apart in their last 7, drawing 4 and losing 3. They lost their last 3 away games and with the momentum being so strong with Groningen, 6/4 looks a big price to me.
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GRONINGEN – 6/4 – WIN
It wasn’t a good performance and in the end it took a big slice of luck but a win is a win. Glad to hear some people also thought the same.
Nice tip Alex, Groningen got the win :)
May series bet tonight will be toure anytime. Wish I’d had more time over these last couple of bets but committed to the series so hoping to keep the series on track until I can give more time.
Toure anytime at 11/10
Evening guys, in the premier league I will be on Wickham 13/8 Bet365 to score he has 5 goals in his last 4 games. This could be a tight game but it usually produces goals. West brom have scored at least 2 goals on their last 3 trips to Sunderland, however it is the home side I want to be on to score O1.5g, this bet would have landed in the last 5 fixtures between these two, it is 6/5 Stan James .
Cant see anything but a home win and a comfortable home win for Man City. The player I will be on here is Eden Dzeko, anytime scorer is odds on, so it is two small stakes for me on him to do what he did against Everton. That is to score 2+ 11/4 Bet365 and to score with a header is 11/2 at 888sport under their specials.
WICKHAM TO SCORE 13/8
SUNDERLAND TO SCORE O1.5g 6/5
DZEKO TO SCORE 2+ 11/4
DZEKO TO SCORE WITH A HEADER 11/2
Good luck if your having a bet
Shaun took your Berbatov tip as a straight single mate as odds were pretty good for AGS. Nice work dude ;)
Norkopping Vs. Atvidaberg
Btts and over 2.5 goals
11/10
**WIN**
Doubled this up with gregs over 1.5 Motherwell goals, thats started no bad eh!
Elfsborg are officially my favourite team.
1-1 into injury time and they grab a winner after pummelling Mjallby for the netire 2nd half.
2 minutes into injury time and you would think they would sit tight on their lead.
NOPE!
Keep bombing forward and grab a third!
Elfsborf, Hacken double @ 1.86 WIN
Also got on Damo’s BTTS +2.5gls at Norrkoping so a bad start to the day has improved.
Ta Damo
The last two meetings between these two at Valladolid as seen Real Madrid win and both teams to score, and it looks likely again tonight at 9/5. Ronaldo is plenty short enough anytime to score, but without Bale it will be down to him to keep them in contention for the league, he is 17/10 at 888sport to score 2+
REAL MADRID WIN & BTTS 9/5
RONALDO TO SCORE 2+ 17/10
Good luck if your having a bet
Greg be happy, saints 1-0 up. Celtic 2.2 to win on 365 and all over that. better difference in teams than man city v villa
Monaco need a decent striker.
My risky Six-Fold
Napoli, Monaco, Man City -1, Celtic, PSG and Benfica @ 5.706/1 Lost
Must admit I did not see that Celtic team coming.
Nice one fitba tips, and no worries!
Last I saw it was 1-1 right at the death then 3-1 all of a sudden! Loving the swedish league for goals at the moment, reminds me a bit like the a league where everyone can score against everyone, not many massive gulfs in class apart from a couple.
Damo
the most exciting games to watch,out and out attack.
certainly with Elfsborg and probably Hacken to going by results
Top stuff greg cheers! Another good day!
Shaun, great night last night and I’ve just checked and seen you’re a Dzeko goal away from a huge 7 fold as well as a Toure goal away from a full house. I bet you’re watching that city game with interest. Good luck mate and great tipping.
Sunderland strolling this but still no cards in City game, a nervy 2nd half performance should produce cards for both sides tho if it stays 0-0 and players getting frustrated
Bet not too many Liverpool supporters are complaining that Villa have “parked the bus” Chelsea style.
Quality tipping again Shaun. C’mon the City 2nd half 2-0 Dzeko and Yaya. Here’s hoping…
I cant believe Celtic is losing ! Honestly i didn’t see that coming and they are still playing horrible
Anyone think theres any value in psg 5/4 at half time or should I accept its been a bad day and wait for tomorrow :) any advice or wisdom welcome :)
Marios13, have you seen the Celtic starting line up? He’s playing the two donkeys up front! They should be 3-0 down!
Small over 2.5 4 fold was 2 out 4 ( hence why
Stick to singles, haha)
Motherwell 2-0 Ht :)
Over 1.5 Motherwell goals 4/5 WIN
Grasshopper v St Gallen – Highest scoring half: 2nd
Lost. A goal in 2nd half injury still wasn’t enough to counter home side’s 9th minute opener
Already won the league tonight Stephen but they’ll want to put on a show in front of their fans
2am (UK Time) Pachuca v Santos Laguna – Highest Scoring Half 2nd Half @6/5 BWIN
Pachuca
2nd half league goals this season: 69%
47 average time of 1st goal scored at home
56 average time of 1st goal conceded at home
Santos Laguna
2nd half league goals this season: 67.4%
51 average time of 1st goal scored away
32 average time of 1st goal conceded away
Interesting game overnight in Mexico. 1st leg of the semi final playoffs should start as a cagey affair which will hopefully accentuate both sides already impressive second half bias
Anyone watching the city game expect city to win? Are they playing well. Cant watch the game but tempted as odds are rising to put some money on. Any replies would be lovely!!
Great work again shaun!
Great work again shaun!
Typical as i write comment. City score. Lol
Oh no that’s 4 now! Hope Butcher is hurting at us lying down to the Jags
Hoping for an Ayr goal
Get in, double and treble up Raal, cheers once again :)
Come on St Mirren!
Av dug one out for the thru the nighters that I feel very confident about 3am seattle v dallas these two played four weeks ago with seattle winning 3-2 away . seattle have scored 15 in there last five games and dallas 9 so there should b goals here seattle are at home tnite so 5/2 btts and win seattle looks real good. Also over 2.5 3.5 look good as well. Gl
Some weird results again hearts getting battered by the team who couldn’t beat 10 hibs Monaco drawing psg losing got to laugh
Cheers craig decided to leave it another man city goal would bring up a nice fourfold then ill follow that mexico league game tip
4 of 5 bets in Czech u19s so far,
Had >1.5fhg and 3.5ftg and a >2.5 double in Karvina and Jablonec matches. Smaller stakes for singles higher for double.
Going for small stakes again >1.5fhg >3.5 ftg BANÍK OSTRAVA U19 VS. ČESKÉ BUDĚJOVICE U19 2pm
Love this league.
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That’s 6 from 7 in for the day, good stuff and a hefty profit.
Will be having a wee bit on >1.5 Motherwell goals later after seeing Greg’s tip, maybe double with Celtic >1.5.
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That’s the double in now, cheers for tip Greg, good day. :)
Yay thank you Raal mate nice double matey!!
Thanks for the double Raal, just took your main double today as had less in the account but it came in thankfully.
Inter, Hoosha, Yugo, Cheers guys and glad you were on them.
I dont really know how Celtic transform like that… Ehh thats football i guess :P
Just hoping on a Dunfermline goal now to end the day sweetly.
on the celtic, 3-1 now. betting gods. pen miss saints. may off. brown/commons on and different game. ca ching phew
2 cards shown so far on 77 mins, 1 more for at least a return on the safe double
Greg thanks mate was on your motherwell over 1.5goals aswell :) :)
well well shaun tanner excellent work my man keeper rollin
Hi all!
This site is fantastic!!! Great banter and Great tips!!
Thanks Raal for the tips today! got on your double and treble! wimped out on the treble cashing out a minute before Ayr scored so a bit gutted but thankfully kept the double on!
Hearts letting/let me down on a couple, jeez St J game has gone mad.
Thanks raal dbl/trbl up didn’t fancy Killie game but hope saints score for you all.GL
Cheers Duncan
SERIOUSLY 3-3?? ARE U KIDDING ME DEFENCE?
Hibs are completly f*cked!
Dzeko departs cheers mate :) and Sunderland 2 up in 31mins, just a pity Wickham couldn’t score one of them
SUNDERLAND TO SCORE O1.5g 6/5
DZEKO TO SCORE 2+ 11/4
:)
Looks like a good night for a few guys tonight
Lovely celebration :)
Finally a win lol over 1.5 team goals hearts motherwell sunderland over 2.5 man city nice fourfold decent end to a day
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Haha a goal and a card. Nice one Jovetic!
TOURE!!! What a way to bring in the series bet for the day! Had fully written tonight’s off!
Toure anytime 11/10 – incredible win
god bless cash out at 365
Shaun Tanner is that a full house from yourself :)
Unbelievable Shaun. Well done sir. Let’s see if anyone will be moaning about your picks today mate…
Unbelievable Shaun. Well done sir. Let’s see if anyone will be moaning about your picks today mate…
Cheers Yesevil mate, hope your break is going well.
Has Shaun done it again??!
a bookmaker is after paying me out 225 quid on 3 losing bets what will happen there. not complaining
Kop legends, they can take it back still. I’ve had bet365 do that to me before
Cheers Raal great double/treble
Nice boost to the balance!!!
Thanks Ian.
agh… madrid now throwing it away, wtf going on??? note to self dont bet on teams at end of season next year! couldnt buy a win
Sean Ireland legend. £20 on your treble…..WINNER
what hapens if i bet it and win will they take the 225 and winning back
Two great priced winners from me today on Football and Horses :)
Repost
I think ill go on the following treble as i see goals in these games
Man City to score 3+ goals
Hearts to score 2+ goals
Sunderland to score 2+ goals
Pays just under 7/1 and i cant see why not…WINS!!!!
My limited knowledge of racing has led me to back a wee horse with 4 legs in the 2.45 at chester called Communicator E/W @ 10/1. With 4 places being offered at 1/4 odds i estimate i am getting £2.50 back with my stake for every pound i bet which looks like value to me considering this horse has a good record at chester,Trainer and Jockey in good form plus Oisin murphy gets a 3lb claimer. Worth a couple of pounds each way id say…Placed which paid @ 5/2
Well that was disappointing.
Of course I should have cashed out on Celtic. Of course I should.
Eng Prem Sunderland v West Brom DRAW @ 3.1 **LOSE**
Scot Prem MOTHERWELL v Inverness @ 2.101 **WIN**
St. Johnstone v CELTIC -1AH @ 1.7 **LOSE**
Scot Lge 1Stirling/Annan, Clyde/East Fife BTTS @ 2.691 **LOSE**
NM Cupen Mjondalen, Sarpsborg, Tromso, Stromsgodset, Bodo/Glimt, Start, Lillestrom, Aalesund, @ 6.624 **LOSE**
Swed All Elfsborg, Hacken @ 1.86 **WIN**
Alls not as bad as it seems, a small loss on my main bets and a small loss on in-play bets rescued by Damo.
hey ho
Chief great shout on Dzeko mate ;)
His tips are thought out and sound, he sells knock off tellies for a pound. His posts maybe 2 pages long but everything in the lock up is going for a song. He sells anything from alloy wheels to a spanner, he’s the legend that is Shaun Tanner. :)
Cracking tips again you wee scally :)
AYR V COWDENBEATH
STIRLING V ANNAN
BOTH TO SCORE DOUBLE PAYS 5/4 (£20) ** WON :) **
STRANRAER V DUNFERMLINE
BOTH TO SCORE TREBLE PAYS 9/4 (£10) ** WON :) **
KILMARNOCK V ST MIRREN
BOTH TO SCORE 4 FOLD PAYS 4/1 (£5) ** LOST **
Stakes are just advice but the double needs to land for a guaranteed profit and anything after becomes a bonus but quite possible for 4 from 4 with that little bit of luck. That is 4 posts that includes everything from me today and tonight so best of luck.
** NOT A BAD DAYS WORK. KEEP THE FAITH **
Raal!! walked to the bookies to get your BTTS 4-fold on and couldn’t remember the last match you chose so just stuck Hearts in :)
Fantastic night on the betting front personally. Real Madrid getting f%@ked in the last few minutes made it even sweeter :)
Any tips for tonights games or should I save it for the Lithuania goal fest tomorrow at 3.30pm?
Now that was a piece of good luck Atletipool nice one mate.
Big shout-out to Damo and Sean Ireland for today.
Had I followed your write up Damo, I placed the bet myself doing my own research will be looking into your insight a lot more from now on. I could’ve bagged 1,500 for the kawasaki game.
Sean Ireland your Quad came in I didn’t follow the anytime scorers but the 2x 1.5 goals the 1x Over 2.5 goals and City win so thank you sir.
Atletico just need 3 points from 2 games by my reckoning and they have won La Liga. The ones of us on at 7/2 and in doubles with the Champions League at 12/1 will be able to cover no problem. Oh what a night :) :)
I make it 4 points Raal. I think we still need to go to Barca and get a draw. Will go and check my maths again
Atletipool, my mistake as they are playing Barcelona.
I thot it was 4 points from 2 games atletico needs ?
1plus2 I think the head to heads favour them so any tie on points gives them the league? May be wrong but just checking.
No worries gents, Motherwell made it all right in the night! :) some cracking tips posted today que messers Shaun and the chief!
Thought we were very worthy of a point tonight! Should have been 3-0 at half time partly down to the fact Lennon played his numpties! O’hallaron deserving MOTM :)
Shaun Tanner you son of a gun…
Full freakin house again?! :)
Shaun tanner! Awesome tipping mate, I put your 6 tips into 15 doubles! Huge profit from that :D
DM series – bet 2
Dunfermline to best Stranraer 21/20 – Lost
Need a point at Barca. Major stumbling block.
Unbelievable results at the weekend.
A point at Barca could be a big ask with them going for the title and the fans behind them and a Champs Lge final the week after.
Interesting to see how the bookies price it after the dust settles from tonight.
I have Atletico @ 5/4 probably not much chance of a lay off after tonight.
Shaun Tanner, well done. I made a note of your tips but I only backed one of your in play tips for wohlen fh goals. That lost!
It looks like a clean sweep on your main bets. Nice.
Even money Barca, 4/5 Atletico.
Ride baby ride!
Top stuff on here today! Many thanks to all!
Overnight BTTS double from the MLS @3.29
Seattle v Dallas
Houston v Columbus
Stats look ok. Any thoughts on this Raal?
All 3 down today Greg, tomorrow will be better
ENGLISH PREMIER LEAGUE
SUNDERLAND v WEST BROM
OVER 3.5 MATCH CARDS
365 2.050 on the Asian, pays very slightly better than in normal market
Brighton – derby
Both teams to score
1/1
Seems good value or am I missing something?
Ok.. so it’s about time I gave my thanks to some amazing people on this site. I’ve sat, listened, read, won, lost all kinds, but the spirit you folks have here is fantastic. I’ll make my contribution (not only to buy Mr.F a pint), but I’ll be studying the Brazilian leagues with great interest.. I travel there on July 2nd.. but in the meanwhile I discuss the leagues with my (partner, and we play the football pools there as a team). Greg, Raal, and too many others to mention.. Fantastic work.. Shaun.. fantastic study and dedication by you too! now let’s get rich ;o)
Cheers Raal, break is good thanks, you guys helping to boost my balance helps a lot :-)
carabobo are 10.11 in play to score o1.5 goals there 1 up and all over the away side
Nice one Shaun!
Harlee we were unlucky with kawasaki not holding out but thankfully the game panned out well and presented a great opportunity to make profit irregardless of the result! Can’t ask for more than that!
Been a good day all round by the sounds of it. Raal well done and shaun tanner top stuff mate, great way to shut up the one or two window lickers
Cheers Damo, a wonderful wonderful evening in fact. I feel sorry for UHT as he is a decent bloke but I am delighted Pat Butcher and his side kick Malpas have been found out as losers.
Well done everyone. Great evening :)
Cheers Alex, some great tips and some even better results up here in Scotland!!
Damo, who team do you follow mate?
Atletico are home to Malaga and Barcelona are away to Elche, if both win then a draw at Barca on the last day gives Atletico the league but a win for Barca gives them it as the head to head will show one win and a draw to Barca, think that is right?
Shaun Tanner has pulled it out the bag yet again! Well done buddy :D
Listen to that raal might become clearer to be certain atletico need at least 4 points for to win without permutations of others
http://www1.skysports.com/football/competitions/la-liga
1plus2, cheers mate it was my mistake but still think Atletico will win it irrespective of having backed them.
Cheers Greg mate :) I agreed with your write up on your game but when you scored first, I thought he we go, Greg has done it again ha ha
Shaun well done tonight mate seems like you’ve had a great night, I know you say you like doing the research and posting it, but I’m hoping your backing your bets, your on quite the roll.
Raaljaca, a defeat I can only imagine how gutted you must be ;) Top stuff with the btts again tonight mate.
Thanks Chief great going yourself. The pain of defeat is still raw Chief but they say time is a great healer ;)
Shaun. Great bet mate! Had city 4-0 and your treble too! Nice evenings work! I’ll be looking out for your tips over the next week!!!
Ra, was it you who told me he had been sacked 7 times in his career? What other profession would give you 8 jobs, haha!
The Chief, when I saw the starting line up I thought we had a chance! Celtics second string players just aren’t good enough! Will have to tip United in the final ;)
Well done Shaun. Top tipping again mate. I found this site a couple of weeks ago and think its absolutely superb. Well done to all today.
Love you Shaun Tanner. Always believed in you.
Raal son, I did ur evening bets as a four fold, should have followed ur staking plan, but I was using the Aussie game winnings so still up, well fed and watered.
Good stuff burt. Will have more tomorrow mate.
chief son, I missed ur tips tonite, I’m hoping u post ur darts tips tomoz. last week was amazing 5 out of 5 it paid for me to go a lapdancing bar were I spent most winnings on a 21yr old bird from Estonia. I will keep an eye out for ur posts
Paysandu v Sao Fransisco
Home win.. why, my fiancee says so lol ;o)
Serioulsy, I told her to not let head rule heart. She gave me a goalscorer, but maybe to obscure on UK betting sites.. so..
Paysandu (Home win)
Vasco da Gama (home win)
Simple double.. good luck =)
Greg, I will back your boys in the final just for you ha ha. They say that Raaljaca lets hope your nearest and not so dearest hibs don’t end up like Bristol Rovers ;)
A draw or defeat at home to Killie on Saturday puts them into the play offs Chief and right now they will not win that.
raaljaca, been a long day of golf then a few beers. Emptying St Omer’s supermarket of Leffe Ruby in the morning then driving home from France and in work for 5. Could be slightly knackered but not as knackered as Hibs seem to be.
Anyone looked into any games happening during the night? Could do with waking up to a few quid lol :D
Tomorrow I am hunting a draw for the 3rd time this week. third time luky methinks
Brighton v Derby
Burt, hope you enjoyed yourself ;) last week was a good week, this week will be tougher as the top two are guaranteed to make finals night, Thornton cant and Chisnall and Lewis unlikely to qualify, but I will post tomorrow. It is big night for Rugby, Darts, football playoffs and NFL draft!
my draws tonight..
San Lorenzo v Cruzeiro
3.00
Pachuca v Santos Laguna
3.25
ASA AL v Avai
3.25
Bragantino v Figueirense
3.25
Nacional Asuncion v Arsenal de Sardini
2.90
£1 = £298
I understand that the odds on my double are very short, but let’s start as we mean to go on =)
Anyone had a look at the Columbian game between Santa Fe and Athletico National?
Looking at their past games btts and goals looks likely. Bet365 has over 2.5 & yes at 8/5. Looks a good price to me would anyone put me off it?
Brian im on that as well for the Santa Fe game, doubled it up with the same bet on the Pachuca game, the double pays 4.2 on bet365
Greg, I’m a glasgow boy so I’m one of the dreaded big two haha Celtic mate! I got worried when I saw you’d tipped us against your boys haha!
Dan, I’m gonna give your double a go. Doesn’t matter if the odds are short – a win is a win!! :)
Cheers Chris, now I’m nervous lol.. all the best buddy ;o)
For some interest gone with
Avai Fc
São Paulo
Santa Fe
Treble 3/1
Trying to build this free fiver up and NOVORIZONTINO are playing away and it’s top 2. They’ve only failed to score once in 13 games and last 2 away games have scored 2 & 3 goals.
Last H2H’s have been 1-1 & 2-0 with NOVORIZONTINO being at hone twice.
NOVORIZONTINO to score 1/3
Thru the nite 12.30 santa fe v atletico nacional santa fe have had bth score their last 5 from 5 games and atletico 4 from 5. So btts here.
1am aldosivi v banfield banfield won the reverse fixture only 3 games ago 3-0 and are flying at mo. Banfield win.
3am seattle v dallas again 4 weeks ago seattle bt dallas away 3-2. And have scored 15 in last 5 games. Dallas themselves have scored 9 in last 5 games. I fancy seattle btts and win 5/2 hills also over 2.5 and 3.5 match goals. Gl if having a bet.
I thought it couldn’t get much worse…
Let’s not dwell on it – whatever will be will be.
Shaun Tanner – hats off to you. Phenomenal. Also a good day for Raal, but let’s not dwell on the non-tipping side of that. ;-)
The Unders Series came agonisingly close to another full house, but that’s betting!
Ravan 1-0 Simurq Zaqatala @ 7/10 *CORRECT*
Neman 3-0 Sachter Soligorsk @ 4/7 *WRONG*
Astra 2-0 Navodari @ Evens *CORRECT*
Day 3: 3 units today returned 1.70 + 0.00 + 2.00 = 3.70. (+23.3%)
We have 8.24 returned from 6 units staked on Days 1 & 2.
Running Total is now 11.94 returned from 9 units staked. (+33.7%)
7/9 correct.
If you’re doing this as the trebles, which is how I’m doing it, you’d have staked 3 units so far and would be sitting on 4.45. That’s +48.3%.
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A word about Neman v Sachter. By a mile today, the shortest odds. Annoyingly, it’s the one that lets us down: 3-0. Goals scored: 29 minutes, 83 minutes, 90+3 minutes.
I don’t mind that. My whole sense of this-is-the-right-strategy doesn’t stand or fall on individual games/bets. Getting so close is simply an indicator that I was on the right kind of game for the bet I was making.
Nothing tomorrow that I can see on the card for my Series.
Will have a few picks for Friday. But right now I need to sit quietly and rock gently back and forward with my head in my hands. ;-)
Had a good look at the two copa liberdatores games and they look tough to call especially the san lorenzo one. Stuck a very small stake on ht draw/ two home wins double at around 30/1.
womens football tomorrow and hopefully lots of goals in the italy, spain and germany games. Will look into it more in the morning but probably worth waiting for the matches to go in play
Macedonia conceded 36 in 5 games and playing Italy at 1pm
Spain scored 34 in 7 games and playing Estonia at 4pm
Germany 47 goals in 7 games playing Slovakia at 4pm
Damo when you say very small stake how much is that? With different people you don’t know if it’s £20 or 20p ;)
Ha I just rounded down to the nearest ten in my account so its 5.34 on it! It’s obviously a massive long shot but both games are expected to be tight!
Good luck Damo, would be another great win today to match your Seoul cover ha.
Draw/Cruzeiro
Draw/Bahia
Palmeiras
Just over 4/1
Just one late one for me tonight
santa fe vs atletico nacional medellin 00:30
Its the semi-final stages of the apertura phase of this league and I can see goals tonight.
in the two-legged quarter final ties both sides saw btts come up in both legs and also over 2.5ftg in each game with 8 goals in total across each tie.
btts and over 2.5ftg would also have come up in last 2 h2h
over 2.5ftg is 2.05
Damo, what do you think of Pachuca v Santos Laguna tonight?
Early weekend super single shout- I can’t see past everton at Hull. The toffees will want to finish strongly while The Tigers will have both eyes firmly on the cup final. No one will want to pick up an injury or a red card and Steve Bruce will surely ring the changes. Jelavic and Long should play as they are cup tied for the final but they can’t carry a distracted team with far bigger fish to fry by themselves
:)
I’m pretty lost for words to be honest at the minute, just come on and reading through the posts. More on than later but first I’ve just got on the Sky Blues womens match and I’m hoping for over 2.5 goals in the last 10 minutes or so. 13/8
Mr. F, sounds like you’re having a grand time. Hope you continue to enjoy it sir! I’ve been craving it since, so enjoy another Ruby for me. :)
I had as bad a day yesterday as most of you seemed to have good (oramazing if you are Shaun). I am going to stop trying to pick tips myself whilst I don’t have the time to research properly, maybe I can do better in the Summer holidays. I will for now if nobody minds just follow the tips from you guys especially now the leagues I know are coming to a close. I know I will still lose some but then that is the nature of the game right :-)
V Constanta win is a great shot at 17.00
They are away and 13/5 the win! They are the Romanian Sunderland! Playing an out of form side. Good Good chance at 13/5 wortb a small single 5-10 pound stake
Fantastic tipping Shuan and Yaya saved the best til last (literally lack kick of the game) well done mate a fantastic clean sweep
greg, great tipping on yr bbts i added celtic 1.5 team goals to your treble, had yr double too, i hadnt a winner since fri, now quids in,
gd to see sean getting plaudits too
oop meant shaun no sean