JOHNB'S 6-4 double-stake tip did the trick on Monday as Upavon neck by a neck.

His other pick couldn't complete the double so it was a 1pt profit for the day and May is now a 12.625pt loss.

Johnb's Tuesday tips have now been added and let's hear your tips and chat.

Johnb's Tuesday Tips

Lingfield 3:25
Cryptic 11-8 NAP/NB racebets (double stake)

Nottingham 3:50
Balmusette 6-1 racebets

Cryptic & Balmusette 15.63-1 racebets

Staying clear of Newcastle today as it’s the new all weather surface so you don’t know what it will be racing like.



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  1. peter daryll 2 years ago

    Well played johnb good nap/nb

  2. 2 years ago

    Wetherby 8.10 – Gimlet 2/1

  3. Johnb 2 years ago

    Tuesday’s Tips

    Cryptic 11/8 NAP/NB racebets (double stake)

    Balmusette 6/1 racebets

    Cryptic & Balmusette 15.63/1 racebets

    Staying clear of Newcastle today as it’s the new all weather surface so you don’t know what it will be racing like

  4. Johnb 2 years ago

    As mentioned on yesterdays racing thread, it’s always disappointing to get the Antepost value only for the horse to get pulled out but as I say “The horse comes first”

    So Mi Dar: John Gosden-trained filly to miss Oaks at Epsom

    Second favourite So Mi Dar will miss next month’s Oaks at Epsom as she is lame, says trainer John Gosden.

    The impressive winner of the Musidora Stakes at York, owned by Lord Lloyd Webber, was 9-4 for the Classic on 3 June.

    Minding, trained by Aidan O’Brien, is now the 1-2 favourite for the Oaks.

    “It’s a bit of a bombshell I’m afraid but the horse comes first. We have to do what is right by the filly,” said Gosden.

    “She may well come right in 10 days but at this stage you cannot go to any major race. She is not right.”

    The four-length York win, under Frankie Dettori, was a third career triumph for unbeaten Epsom Derby Trial winner So Mi Dar, whose dam Dar Re Mi won three Group One races.


    BBC horse racing correspondent Cornelius Lysaght:

    What a pity, but this probably isn’t serious and actually John Gosden thinks it’s even possible she could be right as rain again before the Oaks. However, a) he can’t be sure, b) he certainly doesn’t want to rush a filly of this quality, and c) he wouldn’t be keen to send her on such an important assignment having had such a setback, and anyway all kinds of glittering prizes, notably the Irish Oaks on 16 July, lie ahead.

  5. recoba 2 years ago

    Mao Chinn Tire out at Kempton again in the 3.50
    Any danger to your pick John? Seems to be a bit of a course specialist although top weight today and bit further than last time out.

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      Just think Balmusette is handicapped too low as a horse rated 129 over hurdles makes a flat rating of 55 about 20lbs to 30lbs too low

      For example the horse I had a share in was rated 77 on the flat and 119 in national hunt
      Horses can be better at either flat or jumps but some can be just as good at both, normally you would say a horses flat rating would be about 40lb to 50lb lower than their jumps rating but you do get some exceptions

  6. nezhambo 2 years ago

    Hi JohnB you tipped COURTSIDER Lingfield 2.55 on her last run on her race course debut she ran a good race to finish a close third have youany thoughts on her chances today

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      Heart of Lions should be hard to beat in that race but would fancy Courtsider for a place

  7. stubhoy 2 years ago

    JohnB relatively new to thread although been backing the GGs for over 20 years.
    Got this for tonight at Wetherby

    6.40 Shamaheart 9/1 EW
    Good 2nd last time out at Musselburgh and dropped in trip with firm ground in favor tonight.

  8. ciaran1988 2 years ago

    7.20 Killarney – Specific Gravity @ 11/2
    7.40 Wetherby – Push Me @ 5/1
    7.50 Killarney – Elusive In Paris @ 11/2

  9. jimron12 2 years ago

    Black magic 2.45 14/1 nap
    Nam hai 3.50 13/2 NB
    Rayaa 4.20 33/1 ew

    Going for some outsiders today

  10. peter daryll 2 years ago

    Frantical 5/1 -4.00 lingfield

    Atlas 7/1 -5.15 Killarney

    double 49/1

    Music major 3/1 -5.00 lingfield Nb

  11. peter daryll 2 years ago

    Penny pot lane 2.45 Nottingham I think is a good price at 14/1
    Will take that

  12. alanm 2 years ago

    NAP Geno 3/1 2.45 Nottingham
    NB The Major 9/4 5.20 Nottingham
    They’re off and running Tap The Honey 2.00 Newcastle
    Gold Star Your Gifted 10/1 5.45 Newcastle GL

  13. alanm 2 years ago

    Tap The Honey 12/1 2.00 Newcastle

  14. recoba 2 years ago

    Stick with yesterdays formula. Making it an early Yankee today but…

    Poets Society…1.50. 9/4
    Stecando…2.00 5/2
    Ravens Corner…2.10. 3/1
    Demonstration…2.35. 15/2

    GL today dudes ?

  15. Johnb 2 years ago

    Newcastle’s new all weather track has seen around 40 horses trained by Karl Burke, Ruth Carr, Ann Duffield, Michael Dods, Brian Ellison and Richard Fahey take part in gallops over trips ranging from 5f to 1m4f

    Trainers and jockeys have said it hasn’t bedded in yet and is a bit dead but it looks like it will suit all horses,
    They also described it as going to be the fairest all weather track as its not too quick but not too slow
    The Tapeta surface is the same as Wolverhampton but not as sharp, Newcastle is a galloping track with big sweeping bends out the back which could suit front runners
    Paul Mulrennan has also said that the best horse will always win here.

    My advice is not to bet at Newcastle for the first few meetings till we get a clearer picture of how the track will run

  16. ew thief 2 years ago

    Morning all
    RIPTIDE 3.50N 20/1
    UNDERSTORY 4.00L 16/1
    CHARLIE’S MATE 4.30L 12/1
    ROYAL BAJAN 5.55N 10/1
    GL ALL

  17. mitchwilkins 2 years ago

    All bets with SkyBet, Horse needs to finish in the Top 3 running at Lingfield & Nottingham.

    £3 Double Returns £19.69

    3.15 Angie’s Girl
    4.30 Freewheel

    Starting Pot = £100
    Current Pot = £90

  18. handyman22 2 years ago

    15:50 Nottingham Maoi Chinn Tire 9/2
    14:20 Lingfield Ravens Corner 3/1 (NAP)
    15:25 Lingfield Cryptic 6/4

  19. dougiec 2 years ago

    Nice to see thread back to a bit of normality
    NAP..Wake your Dreams..8.00 Huntingdon
    NB..Push Me..7.40..Wetherby. ran like someone half her age last Friday and and hopefully carry the penalty.
    Best of luck everyone.

  20. 2 years ago

    Agree with John B about Newcastle (watching brief)

    In fact nothing much I fancy today, I backed those two Jamie Spencer rides last night, He finished 2nd in the last race at 12/1.

    He has six very good rides at Nottingham this afternoon, not much chance in the first against a big odds on shot. But I have backed the other 5 in win singles and had a £1 each way accy on his 6 rides.

    Off the walk the dog and hope to come home to a profit on the day.

  21. 2 years ago

    hi all ,havent been on for a few days just turned on the ruk channel to find out so mi dar is not running in the oaks ,thats my luck backed him at 16s i also backed faugheen in a double with douvan antepost, for cheltenham ,i ve also backed ideho antepost after that i will be doing no more antepost bets

  22. 2 years ago

    also backed vatour for the cheltenham gold cup lost that bet aswell

  23. alanm 2 years ago

    Tap the Honey boooooooom 12/1 we are off and running

  24. dougiec 2 years ago

    Just with an interest I’ve backed Gibbs Hill,with Varian/Atzene breeding suggests will be suited here but modest stakes.I’ve added Relight My Fire in a forecast,with my NB,and looking for elusive star I’ve gone for Nicknaaqpaadiwaaq to get me the bone in the 6.40 at Wetherby .at 12/1

  25. 2 years ago

    Alanm was on tap the honey 12/1 SUPERB!! Well done!!

  26. sav-dog 2 years ago

    Get in AlanM

    Choo Chooo….. All aboard :)

  27. sav-dog 2 years ago

    AlanM, sorry this is probably like the 10th time i’ve asked you…

    What was that website that does the race play backs again?


    • alanm 2 years ago

      sav-dog not to sure racing post do but you have to pay or the racing channels later

  28. dougiec 2 years ago

    Thanks Alan gold stars back just missed the forecast,Bragging rights for picking first winner at new course.

  29. alanm 2 years ago

    Yea Dougie first winner at Newcastle @ 12/1 and your back giving out stars ups the mood :)

  30. de niro 2 years ago

    alanm – two words for you


  31. Johnb 2 years ago

    Well done alanm but I seriously can’t fathom why anyone would consider Newcastle with no stats to work with and no knowledge of how the course runs

    Also to anyone who actually bets on any races at Newcastle for the first 3 or 4 meetings good luck but you really have to have a serious think about giving up betting because horse racing is not meant to be a lottery and that’s what a new course is

    • Johnb 2 years ago

      Also far too early but at this early stage Newcastle looks to race nothing like Wolverhampton

    • alanm 2 years ago

      See Cryptic double stake knew how to handle Lingfield never run there before looked like a short price punt to me or a Lucky dip. Well that’s me out of here guys good luck to you all and best wishes to you all.

    • thehawk 2 years ago

      John racing is a lottery and has been for the 30 odd years I have been punting if form worked out all time there would be no bookmakers.

      Well done Alanm your tips have been very profitable be sorry to see you go and good luck to you.

  32. alanm 2 years ago

    Bloody horse needs blindfolded not blinkers.

  33. biggee 2 years ago

    Awful ride again by Ryan Moore.. As I’ve already said I wouldn’t touch anything he’s riding at the moment.

  34. jamiea1991 2 years ago

    Nevermind, Unlucky

  35. jamiea1991 2 years ago

    Moore is having a stinker at the moment isn’t he? i thought i read that
    2 winners from 28 rides

  36. word2mother 2 years ago

    Useless fkn cryptic, three trebles, all with a winner on and all.with a different horse later, sadly cryptic was on all three, fifty races tofay and 11/8 that doesn’t place is what you come up with. Smh

  37. de niro 2 years ago

    Ambitious Icarus 25/1 e/way william hill nap/nb
    Saint Pois 14/1 e/way bet 365

  38. telge 2 years ago

    Alanm I for one hope you stay mate. Critisms Water off ducks back for anyone on here.

    Come on, we are all trying to achieve same thing, we take the compliments and the less than complimentary and move on

    • jpq 2 years ago

      +1 would be a real shame to see you go alanm. Best way to respond is to keep posting winners.

  39. jimron12 2 years ago

    Haven’t been able to get on all day well done Alanm for the 12/1 hard to cal Newcastle atm but a decent horse goes on pretty any ground trainers have been on it must have a decent understanding of it so not a total blind punt either way it’s a winner

    Got a double of the 5.50 winner and the fav in the last at wetherby as my round robin had a last place and 2 non runners ?

  40. biggee 2 years ago

    I agree with rale way over the top reaction… johnb was merely expressing an opinion in no way was it a criticism.

    • Mr Fixit 2 years ago

      biggee, rale needs to focus on people on this site and stop quoting people who aren’t tipsters on here.

      • biggee 2 years ago

        Mrf way I see it he was just defending johnb

        • Mr Fixit 2 years ago

          biggee, I was just explaining why I deleted his tips about other tipsters.
          Johnb’s the tipster here – if he wants to talk about others he should do so on their sites.

  41. Johnb 2 years ago

    May 16.625 points down

    Wednesday’s Tips

    Beausant 5/2 racebets

    Nuclear Power 9/4 NB racebets

    Maleficent Queen 7/2 NAP racebets

    Also 3x 0.5 point doubles & 1x 0.5 point treble

  42. jimron12 2 years ago

    High Ron 6.15 4/1 nap
    Fort Carson 5.05 6/1 NB
    Tangramm 7.25 11/1 ew

    My round robin tomo lads glad there’s no racing up toon tomo !!!!

    On a better note for me high Ron is out again :) and Rafa is staying at the toon :)

  43. rookie 2 years ago

    13.50 B Bigger and better 6/1
    14.45 W Deadly move 8/1
    16.40 B Sans souci bay 6/1
    19.35 D Colonel maximus 7/1

  44. hamish75 2 years ago

    Mrf ye defend johnb to the hilt and rightly so but that dig. At alanm wis below the belt don’t no how many runners at Newcastle or how many different trainers put horses out n if they aw had the same opinion as johnb there wud b no racin oan a lighter note great ti c papasmurf back postin. PS. No matter wot ktf

    • Mr Fixit 2 years ago

      hamish75, I always defend Johnb as you know and his overall figures deserve nothing but.
      I don’t know people dig others up when even rale admits we’re all on the same side.

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