THE only one of main bets that came up was the Top Treble and even then I suffered a late scare.
Watford, Queen of the South and Man City provided a 5-2 winner that looked unlikely when the English champions threw away a 2-0 lead at home to Aston Villa.
The Super Single was a big disappointment with Killie being hammered by a previous toothless St Mirren and it hurt more because my second choice Swansea won at a Newcastle side who have now been dragged in a drop fight – as someone on this site predicted would happen weeks ago.
Elsewhere I hit the bar on the Euro treble, homes and aways but it wasn't the easiest of card with the likes of Norwich, Middlesbrough and Derby failing to win in the Championship and Rangers slipping in Scotland to hand the play-off advantage to Hibs. Next weekend's Hearts-Rangers game will be interesting.
I've had a good look at Sunday's fixtures as I always do and for me the standout team is Juventus at 1-1 with the likes of William Hill, BetVictor and Betfred at city rivals Torino.
I know form can go out the window in derbies but Torino haven't won this fixture since 1995 and Juve have won seven meetings in a row. Juve will be in good spirits after reaching the last four of the Champions League with a professional display in Monaco.
They'll want to wrap up the title as soon as possible to concentrate on their clash with Real Madrid and I expect them to beat a side who have little to play for but local pride. Evens looks value although Torini are unbeaten in four and I also like Carlos Tevez to score first at 15-4 with bet365.
Elsewhere in Serie A I like Napoli at home to Sampdoria, Lazio at home to Chievo and Fiorentina at home to Cagliari. To the start the treble I'll go with the team that didn't play on Sunday and that's Lazio.
Before losing to Juventus they had won six in a row and look good for Champions League qualification. Chievo's form isn't bad but Lazio should be good enough to pick up the points having won their last four at home and lost just one in 11 against the Verona men.
I'm going to France for my second pick and it could have been Lyon at Reims but instead it's St Etienne at a bigger price at home to Montpellier. St Etienne are unbeaten in eight, including a draw at leaders Lyon last weekend, as they chase Champions League football for the first time since 1981.
Montpellier sit seventh but most of their points have been gathered at home and on the road they haven't scored in three including defeats to lowly Toulouse and Evian. St Etienne are a best 4-5 at Betfred and consider Max Gradel at 6-1 to score first after netting eight in nine games.
Complete the treble with Celtic at Dundee Utd. The Terrors must be sick of the sight of the Hoops after losing three in a row without scoring last month. Aberdeen's win at Inverness has kept the pressure on the champions and I can't see past Celtic at a best 4-9 with Betfred and may consider.
I tipped Gary Mackay-Steven to score first at Dundee in midweek and this time it could be his ex-Dundee Utd pal Stuart Armstrong who strikes first. He is 8-1 at Ladbrokes and Betfred.
In Spain Sevilla should beat Rayo but remember they had a tough Europa League tie in Russia on Thursday an Real Madrid should win at Celta Vigo but have lost there on two of their last three visits.
The reasoning for the both teams to score treble is on a separate thread.
3pts Super Single
Juventus (2pm)
(1-1, William Hill, BetVictor, Betfred)
2pts Top Treble
Lazio (2pm)
St Etienne (1pm)
Celtic (12.30pm)
(5-2, BetVictor, William Hill)
Both to score treble
Sevilla v Rayo (6pm)
Groningen v Feyenoord (1.30pm)
Twente v AZ (3.45pm)
(3-1, Ladbrokes)
April Super Single Record
25 bets (12 winners, 13 losers)
Profit: 8.6pts
Remember to check our friends at We Love Betting for all their video tips.
In December 2020 we sadly 
SS Chelsea Draw no bet 13/10
nite owl bet
huachipato, cerro porteno o2.5mgs double 2/1
A league early sunday morn
Melbourne o2.5mgs, wellington btts 11/10
uk early ko’s
celtic o2.5tgs 6/5
man u o1.5tgs 6/5
small double 3/1
its a shoe in Jordan………..
This one will be fun :D
Manchester United Over 1.5 Team Goals @ 6/5 @ Various
Manchester United Over 5.5 Corners @ 21/20 @ BV.
Hope so crane mate.
as is celtic goals can see 4-0 celtic tbh
after 10 days without a loss i suffered one today….and i am extremely anxious to get back to winning ways….
espanyol +3 asian handicap
elce +3 asian handicap
sociedad +1 asian handicap
@1.86
WINNER (2 PARTS WON 1 PART VOID)
Man Utd 23/20 @b365
Good treble celtic man utd and arsenal all to win with both teams scoring in all 3 games safer bet all games over 2.5 goals
You will get 82/1 . with BWIN for that but don’t fancy it . Bts No looks a better bet with the treb paying 7.61/1 Sky bet.
Yes Win .
Risking egg on my face with this one but I do fancy goals
about to start
Chile Primera Division
Huachipato vs San Marcos
Huachipato’s last 3 at home have all see over 4.5 ftg and they have scored at least 2 in their last 6 at home.
San Marcos last 3 away have all seen over 4.5 ftg and they have conceded 7 in last 2 away
Over 1.5 fhg@ 2.37
Over 2.5 fhg@ 6.00
Over 3.5 ftg@ 2.37
Over 4.5 ftg@ 4.33
Arsenal will NOT win tommorow
Harpreet, it’s never wise to say “will not win”. I don’t think they’ll win but in football anything can happen.
Chelsea double chance looks a shoe in for tomorrow. Best price coral 8/13. Like harpreet says Chelsea will not lose this match.
Arsenal will at least draw
After a good swatch at tommorrows card and I know it could end up with egg on my face but I strongly fancy shaktar Donetsk @ 13/10 they have win there last 5 home games against Kiev and are formidable at home also a little early morning treble I like look of to hopefully wake upto is Sydney over 1.5TG Melbourne over 2.5TG and gamba Osaka win at 8/1 with bet365
Any Newcastle fan will tell you we’re a relegation outfit. With 35 on the board we’ll probably stay up this season, but if there isn’t major change we’re gone next season.
The players are crap, no heart and Carver is absolutely hopeless.
Super Single: Celtic -1 @ Evens
United are on a brutal run of form and missing a few players for this one, they’ve also got a dreadful H2H record, really can’t see Celtic being troubled here.
1 point returns 3.3
BTTS double
Arsenal
Man Unt
St Etienne v Montepellier
Over 1.5 St Etienne goals @ 21/20 (Coral)
Although Montepellier have only conceded 2 goals in their last 5 away games, St Etienne have scored 2 or more goals in 4 of their last 5 home games and 3 of their last 5 overall. They have also scored 2 or more in 3 of the last 5 head to heads.
Good luck :)
Gotta be an arsenal and united double just for the pure passion of football. The reason we’re all here primarily is because we love our football!!!! Almost 5/1 it’s worth a go just to get into the games more even as a mutual.
I don’t comment here often but I feel that some people have lost their love for the game. The idea is that this betting is a bit of fun, so if you are in that category and don’t rely on it for an income, put a little bet on what you want to happen and it makes it all the more fulfilling. Be clever and resourceful for the rest of the time, but don’t forget where you came from
Simon your 50/50 right in my opinion
Arsenal v Chelski:
One bet from me.
Mertesacker FGS @ 50/1!
HAHA !
Game due to start at 5am
In running at 365
Kingsborough v south hobart (tasmanian equals goals!)
hobart should win by a few
one to keep an eye on
Sorry hobart zebras not south hobart
south hobart kick off later
Took mixture of Mr F tips today and added Chelsea not often you see them at 2/1 and against a Gunners team who have struggled in recent games also record against the top 4 not good
To win
St Etienne
Lazio
Juventus
Chelsea
Suwon blue wings v daejon 8am. Suwon in great scoring form and daejon gettin the odd hammering.
going for suwon score both halves evens
and over 1 fh goaline 1.77
went for a 4fold of
Sydney fc (inplay) 4/7
celtic 1/3
basel 4/11
juventus 19/20
£9.72 returns £54.15 @b365
On the ss and 2 trebles 2 points and 0 5 points trebles.
Arsenal and man unt btts double
Good luck all expecialy considering we are in italy for the ss, been stung with some 0-0 lately but jooefully today will be different.
Craneguy just need the O2.5 down under and another winner.
If anybody is like me and waiting on over 2.5 goals in Osaka game Deary Deary me just witnessed one of the worst open goals av seen in a while still time for a 3rd but when that’s happening it doesn’t look likely
Japan J3 in running
Machida v J League
Machida to score the next goal…small stake fot a bit of fun!
@7/4
8am treble:
Omiya Ardija
Melbourne Victory
Suwon Bluwings
All to win
3.15
Bet 365
Don’t you just love a late goal
Machida to score the next
7/4winner
On suwon goal in each half
Morning lads
Bluewings and Victory over 1.5 TG’s double
Over evens
Good luck :)
I am on this three combine
Fiorentina,Celtic,Molde. all to win @ 3.6/1
Gud luck.
Suwon to score both halves lost. 7 shots off target.
have got them – 1 at 1.80. Id imagine theyl start hitting the target sooner or later
After a good day yesterday im having a 1st goal scorer bet today. Lavcazette to score 1st is 3/1 he’s had a fantastic season and been very profitable for me. Carlos Tevez to score 1st for juve is 3/1 and im putting mad max gradel to score 1st for st etienne 9/2.
The treble pays around 98/1
Im putting mine in a trixie 4 bets with a quid on each returns 137. Only small stakes for fun but i think its a decent shout.
Gl all.
Chelsea have been grinding results out but I think today depends on 2 things. 1/ If Costa plays and 2/ If Arsenal play like they can.Hard one to call .
Cheers Craneguy for the Aussie btts and over 2.5 goals…in before ht lol
Another gosl in the amiya game and suwon to win at 1.97
1 point on hopefully to return the point lost on a goal in each half
Ffs lol all in the timing, looks like it hasnt changed from yesterday. Suwon go a goal down.
Morning gents
Saturday was one do those days when everythin my went to plan! Was up in Dundee watching us dispose of Dundee 2-0 to keep our euro dream alive and 4 out 5 of the bets I posted!
Nothing from me today
Good luck everyone with yours
Dave will look out for you on the M27 mate :)
Correct score @ small stake: Arsenal 0-0 (9/1) and 1-1 (5/1) if Chelsea avoid defeat they will have the chance to win the league at the bridge. Other tips for today include:Shakhtar Donetsk, Stromsgodset, Rijeka, and Verona which is (8.71/1) skybet. Good luck my boys Utd @ Everton. On current form that would be my btts banker. Good luck everyone havin a go today!
Nice start to the Sunday card with a wee 8/1 treble rolling in hoping for a shaktar Donetsk win today for a full house and a will be on the usual suspects tips today good luck guys
Saturdays bets
Singles:
QPR Kilmarnock
WIN WIN
29/20 7/5
Betvictor Stan James
*LOST* *LOST*
Skybet Free bet longshot
Watford WIN
Liverpool WIN
Bradford vs Barnsley Over 2.5
Chesterfield vs Bristol City Under 2.5
Man City vs Villa BTTS
24/1
*LOST*
Double:
Excelsior vs PSV
PSV to WIN
Over 3.5 goals
21/10
BetVictor
*WON*
Chelsea dc and Everton btts 15 pays 45 bit of that I think
Haha dave this suwon games shocking. Stats propper out the window. Suwon capable of turning it round but am looking to the next game to be honest
For Joet 1987, don’t write on these threads very often, but ask yourself this how can you love a game when players themselves are massively overpaid and egotistic , and don’t get me started on the diving and feigning injury, as for players loving to play for their clubs , not many left these days, no loyalty, how can they expect fans to be loyal. Can’t wait for the rugby union to start again to see some real sportsmanship and respect. Not having a go at you Joet1987, you make a good point,just scratching a long standing itch.
Mr fix it – I know what you mean & yes anything is possible in football. However I can’t see Arsenal winning. CHELSEA Draw no bet is the way forward here I think
Morning people…Iv got a sneaky feeling in 1 or possibly both premier league games today there is going to be a 2-2 draw…Odds off 14/1 I’m gunna have a pop at 2singles to keep me interested in the games maybe very small stake as a double also.
Dordrecht – Cambuur over 2.5
Twente – AZ over 2.5
Groningen – Feyenoord BTTS / Groningen win
Zwolle – Ajax Ajax win
Valverde to win Liège–Bastogne–Liège
Good luck.
Had Melbourne win btts and my thought was given evidence by some of the guys in here so thanks for that.
Fancy Atalanta – Empoli
U/2.5 goals.
HHopefully the beginnings of a streak lol
Hampy had them on a dc as well but look like costing an early morning 3 points
Greg – Your number plate will be the one with the plus sign, nice full house.
Had a bad day yesterday had too many bets on and none of them up, typical Saturday so going to post my bets today and hopefully be more disciplined
2 bets today
Man U win & BTTS 18/5 @ Coral
Man U, Juve, Chelsea double chance treble 2.48/1 also Coral
Good luck
Rooney & Hazard anytime goalscorers today hummmmmmmmm thinking about it
Dougsiebhoy.. I put your treble on and smiling to myself as the goals come in for melb victory just to check my bet and find I’ve selected “under” 2.5 by mistake.. Not the first time it’s happened Grrrrrrrrr
Does anyone know if Diego Costa will be available for Chelsea today?
Kyle B, in my English preview it says Costa is still out.
Need to put a breathalyser on my betting account – lost a fair bit with that stupid Huachipato bet when icy had a few last night.
In-play
Changchun Yatai vs Guangzhou R & F 0-2 after 65 mins
Btts @ 2.00
Guangzhou have conceded in all away games so far in league and last 3 H2H with Changchun at home have seen btts
Bluewings and Victory over 1.5 TG’s double
Lost
Poor start to the day with a seemingly straight forward bet falling down courtesey of the bluewings :(
CC SS
MAN UTD
23/20
CC DOUBLE
BASEL 12.45 ko
ST GALLEN BTTS 12.45 ko
11/8
CC TREBLE
ZENIT
LAZIO
SPARTA PRAGUE
11/10
CC TRIXI
ARSENAL. DRAW
GENT. DRAW
BENFICA. DRAW
GL LADS
Reply
Arsenal draw
Unt draw
1 point returns 11
Union Berlin v ingolstadt btts
Dordrecht v cambuur btts
2/1 double
Harps, u leave the gunners alone friend
Celtic-1
St etienne
Lazio
Sevilla-1
4fold. Good luck guys
2 points return 4.7
Lazio win
Madrid win
2 points return 4.7
Sevilla win
St etienne win
Thats my 10 points, bank on 25 points pending todays fun and games.
Better late than never – 95th min goal for Changchun brings up btts @ 2.00
Overeem, Harry whats youre bets for today ……if any.
Let me now please for try 3.
First two lost only on one bet.
So lets try no.3
good day and good luck
It’s been a goal fest in the first half of the Sydney Olympic v Marconi Stallions match, 3-1 at half time. I think there might be a few more in it so going for BTTS in 2nd half
7/5 @ Cor.al
Konyaspor win @ 2.0
Konyaspor and Malaga double @ 3.06
Sevilla over 1.5tgs
M’Gladbach over 0.5tgs
Groningen over 0.5tgs
Treble 5/4 ladbrokes
Stat attack for empoli atalanta match at 11.30am. 67% of atalanta home games have been btts and 60% of empoli away games have been btts. Bookies have btts priced at EVENS. I’m on.
One bet for me today
Celtic 1/3
Juventus 19/20
Lazio 2/5
£300 returns £1092 bet365
£10 treble
Celtic
Man utd
Arsenal draw pays 98
Cs patent
Dutd 1 Celtic 3 @10/1
Everton 1 man utd 2@8/1
Arsenal 1 Chelsea 1@11/2
£5 free bet fgs treble
Stefan Johansen
Wayne Rooney
Oliver giroud pays 1120!
TattooGaz mate that is a sickener hopefully few more winners today for you make up for it
Greg, it’s always a good day when you beat Dundee!! :)
1 point fun Sunday acca:
Madrid
Sevilla
Lazio
Juventus
Basel
9.14/1
#Match Result & BTTS#
Dordrecht vs CAMBUUR – 7/10
SEVILLA vs Vallecano – 6/10
Celta Vigo vs REAL MADRID – 7/10
#BTTS#
Gent vs Club Brugge – 9/10
Benfica vs Porto – 9/10
#Result#
ST. ETIENNE vs Montpellier – 8/10
Dundee Utd vs CELTIC – 10/10
My thoughts on chances /10 for each bet. Naturally the Result/BTTS are the hardest to gauge.
Total bet odds are;
175/1 on Ladbrokes
150/1 on Bet365
I’ve studied the recent form and previous results on all.
TEVEZ ON THE BENCH…JUVENTUS LINEUP(3-5-2) Buffon bonucci obgonna chiellini lichsteiner pirlo vidal pereyra padoin morata matri …torino to win@4.33 bet365
Nice one richard, looked at that one and decided not to :-(
A simple double of
Man United and
Chelsea
is a whopping 5.72/1 on 365.
Rather unadventurous but I think it’s got a good chance.
For them both double chance (X2) it is 0.99/1
On Mr f’s SS and treble also then a fiver each on these 2 doubles.
Good luck today chaps.
nite owl bet
huachipato, cerro porteno o2.5mgs double 2/1 LOST
A league early sunday morn
Melbourne o2.5mgs, wellington btts 11/10 WON
uk early ko’s
celtic o2.5tgs 6/5
man u o1.5tgs 6/5 PENDING
small double 3/1
Dougsybhoy-yeh mate have a few hopes on btts Manu -arsenal and juventus games.. What are you on today mate
Richard, never a good idea to bet when you’re on the sauce…….. ha ha
BTTS
Lillestrom/Stabaek
Genclerbirligi/Trabzonspor
Double 8/5
harry, are u still going ahead with the £10 challenge?
or is there nothing today for this bet?
gl anyway mate!
Arrived in benidorm at 11 am.
The local bookies giving me good price in the below.
Celtic ht ft at evs
Let’s have a BENIDORM BOOM BOOM
Stat attack for empoli atalanta match at 11.30am. 67% of atalanta home games have been btts and 60% of empoli away games have been btts. Bookies have btts priced at EVENS. I’m on.
43 mins 1-1 WON. Great start to the day
Mystic greg on your treb again but added juve n lazio.good luck mate.also £5 patent on man u -1 11/4
Juve -1 11/4
Lazio -2 3/1
Skybet
Overc2 goals in arsenal. Man utd and celtic games .
Chelsea man utd and celtic win btts treble and 3 doubles . GL all . Really bad day yesterday.
Gazmic66 good luck how did your night out go?
Stuart there the kind of bets I’m into fair play do you think it’s risky picking juventus or confident
Considering the over 12 corners bet on the Celta vs Real Madrid game tonight.
Celta has the highest average on corners per game in La Liga and Real are 3rd on the list (both on about 6 a game)
2/1 William Hill
Thoughts gentlemen?
Dordrecht v Cambuur in running
o1.5mgls and o20corners
Double @2.49/1
Redboy it failed yesterday with the qpr game finishing goalless. I’ll have a look and see if I fancy doing it again, not had much time this morning
Night was amazing thanks mystic.having hair of the dog wtchn celtic game.wife n 4 sons were singing ur praises.well she would.shes out spending winnings wi the grandkids.haha
Chelsea will definitely win today but gonna play safe on the double chance at 4/6. Great odds so putting 5 large on this
£10 challenge
Real Madrid over 0.5tgs
Elfsborg over 0.5tgs
M’Gladbach/Wolfsburg over 1.5mgs
Returns £15.68
main bet today
Groningen, Zwolle btts double 6/4
Mainz u19 btts 2nd HFCs @5/2
Switzerland 2pm
Servette vs Lausanne Sports
Servette over 1.5 Team Goals
Czech Republic 4.45pm
Sparta Prague vs Zbrojovka Brno
Sparta Prague over 1.5 Team Goals
23/20 (Bet365)
Chelsea to score
Everton/Man United O1.5
Hellas Verona to score
1.24/1
Fellaini, Valencia, Barry to get booked, cert
Celic game brutal waiting on 2.5 goals cant see 1 goal hope i’m wrong.
Dordrecht v Cambuur
o1.5mgls and o20corners
Loser!
Rooney anytime 2.20. On the win also
— utd to win 21/20
Hampy, bet with the wallet not the heart, LUUUUKAKUUU :)
Afternoon all,
Gone for over 3.5 goals in the Everton v Utd game at 13/5…cannot see it being a tight affair
…but can see it being a niggle one. Sneaky 3/1 for a red card at SJ.
Good luck
last for today off out 10% of stake on
Wolfsburg btts
real mad o1.5tgs
Napoli o1.5tgs
lyon o1.5tgs
6/1
My personal bet of fellaini getting booked comes in :-)
Fellaini booked
love the tips thanks people
Man u everton in play. Under 5 fh corners
11/10 bet365
Small stakes but 1 corner in first 13 mins
Sorry everton v man u. My bad
Give it chance capone my son give it chance
Norway Div 2 Group 3
Vindbjart vs Arendal 2pm
Only been one game so far in the current league season so have just been looking at previous form
H2H record I can find is
16/08/14 Vindbjart 5-3 Arendal
03/05/14 Arendal 0-3 Vindbjart
25/04/14 Arendal 4-2 Vindbjart
09/08/13 Vindbjart 4-2 Arendal
26/04/13 Arendal 0-6 Vindbjart
Vindbjart’s home games in the league at the tail end of last season were generally good for goals as well so am on the following – not available on Bet 365 so on BetVictor for these
Arendal to win @ 1.83
Over 3.5 ftg @ 2.15
Over 4.5 ftg @ 3.75
celta +2 asian handicap
cesena +2.5 asian handicap
cievo under 1.5 tg
parma under 4.0 mg asian goal line
cagliari +3 asian handicap
@2
u could get up to @2.17 with other bookies with my bet but hey bet placed already now…didn’t have time to shop cause k.o was imminnent.
Man u everton in play. Under 5 fh corners
11/10 Bet365
Small stakes but 1 corner in first 13 mins
Lost. Big time. Sorry if anyone was on. that was poor timing after the goal.
…. Utd win 2-3
Might sell Eve perf suprem at HT… Has been a while since I fired up Spreadex a/c
Can Man Utd get anything from this game ?
Harpreet, at the moment you’d have to say no. Struggling to make any proper chances.
Anyone on the Top Treble can cover Chievo or draw at 5-1 with Lazio 1-0 and Celtic and St Etienne winning. Decent day so far but of course would love a Juventus winner in the second half.
Guangzhou evergrande to score before 80 mins @ evens
2-1 down at home but pushing hard for equaliser – about 62 mins played
You done well to stay away from man utd Mr f 2 good goals from Everton but I’d still like to give van gall a fly dig
darran, had my doubts over Man Utd but I hope they at least score. Everton sitting on the 2-0 lead so it’s just about whether they can be broken down.
Richard – you’re a China master – great spot and great tip
Yes harpreet united win 3-2 is 17-1 im so confident il put a pound on it. Not even playin bad theyve just scored their chances. Theyl be goals hust not sure how how many.
Richard cheers for evergrande goal before 80mins bud
No worries Hampy and SimpleDXB – actually took goal before 70 mins as well so even better for me :)
Not a tip cos I don’t like going back to games I’ve already won on but check out the stats for Guangzhou game – would not be surprised at all if they get a winner with about 20 mins still left
Hampy, Utd over 1.5 tg @9/4? Very tempting, can it be done?
Wouldnt rule it out capone. Im on over 3.5 match goals
Gutted Tevez hasnt started for Juve, waiting on him for fgs treble, Griffiths and Gradel already in and waiting on Juve for another treble too.
Cost me big time against Parma two weeks ago, hoping he makes an appearance at half time and brings both bets home.
Pirlo will do, 35/1 double on griffiths n gradel in the bag
realwalker, well done. I tipped Gradel so happy to see him score first. Also flagged up Fellaini first booking at 12-1 so I hope some were on that too.
Its a big thanks to you with Gradel MrFixit although i stuck with my gut on Griffiths.
Also took celtic-1 and juve after seeing your post.
Celtic, Lazio, st etienne and juve in a fourfold as well.
Hoping it could be a full house today
realwalker, a lot depends on Juve – Gradel’s a goal machine at the moment.
I think Man utd will have a player sent-off.
Ive won double my stakes today so will let the others ride, ive an atrocious record when i cover or cash out so will just let it ride in the hope juve take the lead again.
St Etienne v Montepellier
Over 1.5 St Etienne goals @ 21/20 (Coral)
Although Montepellier have only conceded 2 goals in their last 5 away games, St Etienne have scored 2 or more goals in 4 of their last 5 home games and 3 of their last 5 overall. They have also scored 2 or more in 3 of the last 5 head to heads.
Good luck :)
** LOST :( **
One goal short, Montepellier’s recent defensive record should have put me off this bet!!
Man Utd = Terrible performance. Possession doesn’t mean anything at all
Going into hiding were getting hammered :( only need one more for 3.5 goals at leaat….
If Valencia were a horse running at Aintree instead of a donkey running around at Goodison he’d have been taken around the back and shot by now – humanely treated for being so lame.
The o3.5mg’s looking good though (come on)
Another bet for me today is:
CHELSEA TO WIN – 11/5
I can’t see Arsenal winning today at all I’m sorry. I’m confident Chelsea can win so going for it !!!! 11/5 boomers coming my way of this lands. Good luck all :-)
Mr fix it – Man Utd have been really poor. Not good enough at all and I’m my opinion wrong starting lineup against Everton.
Arsenal/Chelsea DRAW & U2.5mgs
13/4 betway
1pt
Well done craneguy. Looked easier on paper than they probably made it though
nite owl bet
huachipato, cerro porteno o2.5mgs double 2/1 LOST
A league early sunday morn
Melbourne o2.5mgs, wellington btts 11/10 WON
uk early ko’s
celtic o2.5tgs 6/5 WON
man u o1.5tgs 6/5 LOST
small double 3/1 LOST
main bet today
Groningen, Zwolle btts double 6/4 WON just love a last min goal………
the good run continues :)
Hazard anytime 13/5
cheers harry, had 30% of days stake on the aussie game, 15% on the celtic man u games and 45% on the dutch double
got a 10% 6/1 still to run, heres hoping………
also spotted a nice overs in SA tonite mite do it also al see……………
If Juventus lose this they’d have cost me twice in 3 weeks, first against Parma now this dross
Thats just great lazio ruin the day why dont ye.
bobo, disappointing with Lazio – I hope some took the cover advice at 5-1. Least said about Juve the better.
Going with my gut feeling
Arsenal – to win 2-0 @ 12/1 ( Coral)
Arsenal v Chelsea – draw 1-1 @ 6/1 ( Ladbrokes )
Value picks.
Ht/ft arsenal – draw 14/1 (think it could be 1-0 first half but chelsea will get a draw)
Chelsea ov 4.5 corners evs
Armando gabrial anytime goal 11/1 (looked dangerous from set plays last week)
Value picks.
Ht/ft arsenal – draw 14/1 (think it could be 1-0 first half but chelsea will get a draw)
Chelsea ov 4.5 corners evs
Armando gabrial anytime goal 11/1 (looked dangerous from set plays last week)
God I keep saying don’t touch Italian football every time I go back to it I get stung I need shooting ..never again lol
+1. Fricken Itis
Toluca v tijuana btts
Fiorentina race to 7 corners
Wisla v kornoa btts
Few pics worth lookin at
I reckon Chelsea could really hurt Arsenal on the counter attack..
Chelsea to win 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1
11/4
SkyBet
Small stakes
Lazii usually best option corners had race to 7 though they should ofn won
This one will be fun :D
Manchester United Over 1.5 Team Goals @ 6/5 @ Various **LOSE**
Manchester United Over 5.5 corners @ 21/20 @ BV **WIN** 7
Terrible display from United. Without Carrick we seem to have gone back to playing under Moyes. Possession galore but not much on goal.
Bolivia win double
strongest and bolivar around evens
Chelsea look setup for a draw may not even be any goals
hampy, hope you’re wrong about 0-0 but a draw would suit Chelsea. Off to watch the second half – taking the car though and that will please the guy watching my drinking habits.
Never knew Michael Oliver was an Arsenal fan
Mr F – can still have a couple of pints provided you eat 8 bags of pork scratchings and have a portion of cheesy chips (with bacon topping). That’ll keep the sore bones happy :)
No 2 halves the same in footy – something will give 2nd half.
Fabregas’ yellow for the trip in the box was absurd…
MrF I took your cover advice “thank you
Al Kuwait SC -1.5AH 2.025. Small stakes (perhaps 1.5-2pts) for interest.
Al Kuwait should smash Khaitan but these teams are as fickle as everything else in the Middle East!!
GL if u follow
Cesc Fabregas to score a penalty 50/1
skybet, whats that about – is hazzad taking pens or has this a chance ?
It was on skybets trending bets at HT, stuck 2 on it as love big odds.
Gary – Hazzard will take the penalty if Chelsea was awarded one mate
Cheers good man, oh well – was in there trending bets so followed some suckers. lol. Spread a tenner for interest. Pen chelsea 14/1, hazard FG 9/1 and that donation for Fabragas to score pen if hazard and Drogba give up a pen taking. lol.
Chelsea suck in big games, sky should take TV money back from them. 0-0 or 1-0 Chelsea.
Chelsea may nick this 0-1
With you on that one, Harp. 1pt on 1 nil to Chelsea.
Gary – You never know though mate and I really do hope if Chelsea get a penalty Fabregas takes it so you win some ££££££
Mr C – I’ve been on a Chelsea win straight from the start and I think they will still win this
Switzerland 2pm
Servette vs Lausanne Sports
Servette over 1.5 Team Goals
Czech Republic 4.45pm
Sparta Prague vs Zbrojovka Brno
Sparta Prague over 1.5 Team Goals
23/20 (Bet365)
WON :)
WATO Cheers for that
Just came on to see what you guys thought about a chelsea win. I went on 0-1 at 4/1.
Monday
Turkey 6pm
Besiktas vs Karabukspor
Besiktas Over 1.5 Team Goals
Spain 7.45pm
Valencia vs Granada
Valencia Over 1.5 Team Goals
5/4 (Betway, Bet365)
Which probably means you should all lump on the arse. :-)
Not one dutch game over 2.5 today brutal.
Hampy, good job I wasn’t tempted, you on ASA?
Very speculative next goal in-play treble:-
Chelsea, moenchengladbach, benefits to score the next goal. 16.8/1…………………
Should read Benfica oops!
Capone dont know with asa bud. Home side not conceeding many. Depends on goal lines not even looked yet. Fiorentina race to 7 almost home
Any decent looking games for this evening then Hampy?
18 points returns 40
Real madrid win
Sevilla win
i was on your arsenal-chelsea draw mrf . lovely cheers
Napoli v Sampdoria
under 2.5 goals @ 11/10
*lost in 34 minutes*
..back to the drawing board..
John be callin it quits after toluca v tijuana btts
Also on bolivar and strongest both to win bolivia double
does anyone know of any web sites that record the number of goal kicks taken in a match?
Arsenal/Chelsea DRAW & U2.5mgs
13/4 Betway
1pt small stake
WON
Going with my gut feeling
Arsenal – to win 2-0 @ 12/1 ( Coral)
Arsenal v Chelsea – draw 1-1 @ 6/1 ( Ladbrokes )
**LOST** :(
Fiorentina race to 7 corners won
Napoli v Sampdoria
under 2.5 goals @ 11/10
Although the last few Napoli games have gone over 2.5, Sampdoria have only conceded 3 goals in the last 5 games. I can see this being a tight game between 2 teams in 4th and 5th place. With fiorentina losing today, Sampdoria might have a pop at 4th place and double chance at 13/8 looks worth a few quid.
Posted earlier –
Chelsea double chance looks a shoe in for tomorrow. Best price Coral 8/13. Like harpreet says Chelsea will not lose this match.
Won. 2 out of 2 today.
Nice one wato……..
My 4 fold gubbed nae goals in Germany
Tonite
Bolivar, the stongest o2.5mgs double 6/4
Sanjay – It was plain and simple for Chelsea wasn’t it? Glad you won some ££££
I did Chelsea to win straight up for recommended bet and has personal bet stake on DC. Printing money :-)
Sevilla over 1.5tgs
M’Gladbach over 0.5tgs
Groningen over 0.5tgs
Treble 5/4 Ladbrokes
*WON*
Harpreet I’m a Chelsea fan and I knew morinoho would set his team up to defend and counter and they would not lose. Good price for double chance too.
Wisla btts lost. Korona more than enough chances just pitiful. Next
Cheers Craneguy good luck tonight usually quite a few goals in Bolivia
A quite ridiculous number of low scoring games around today has cost me dearly, one of my worst days/weekends in ages.
Even though Molde let me down for just one goal, I’m going to try and concentrate more on the Scandinavian leagues, I feel like the leagues that are winding down have become far too unpredictable.
Nice one harry a needed a Wolfsburg to keep my 4 fold going
Was watching it Inplay an near took the home team to win 5 mins tae go 8/1 but sh4t it………..
any thaughts on real minus 1 guys looks tempting at 6/4 comments appreciated
if anyone is on my fivefold and needs the money can cover with real madrid -2 regural handicap @5.75
Real Madrid have injuries including bale/benzema and have drifted from 1.56 to 1.76 in the past day or so.
Aye wato bolivars tap v bottom an the strongests the altitude hing again at home teams run oot of steam against them in 2nd half
Little one for later before I see team news. Galaxy haven’t shown many signs of being the champions of last year. They’ve failed to win in their last 9 away games in the MLS including last season, conceding in all 3 of their away games. Conceding twice in 2 of those against Vancouver and Portland. NYRB have scored at least 2 goals in their last 4. At Columbus Crew and at DC United who are decent on their day.
New York Red Bulls Over 1.5 Team Goals @ 13/10 @ WillHill.
Interesting Jordan mite put some of tomorrows on that
Crane NYRB are playing some decent football, undefeated in all games this season and have scored every game. Good price for two I think. Did well with last nights posts so hoping it continues.
Been a good day today so having a small flutter on Lyon to win at 8/11. Reims have allot of their regular defenders out and Lyon have to win if they want to keep pace on psg.
WIN & BTTS
Napoli
Lyon
Real Madrid
1pt Trixie (treble 37/1)
bet @ 8pm for me is
Lyon to Win
&
Real M DChance
@
EVENS
Small bet James Rodriguez Anytime @ 2/1 @ 365
CC SS
MAN UTD
23/20
LOST
CC DOUBLE
BASEL 12.45 ko
ST GALLEN BTTS 12.45 ko
11/8
LOST
CC TREBLE
ZENIT
LAZIO
SPARTA PRAGUE
11/10
LOST
CC TRIXI
ARSENAL. DRAW
GENT. DRAW
BENFICA. DRAW
GL LADS
“”””””””””WINNER””””””””
Saved the day
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centrecircle nice prediction on the draws made a nice lil wage thanks mate carnt wait to see your next post
Anything for a scouser mate
YNWA
Napoli/Sampdoria BTTS
New York Red Bulls over 0.5tgs
Double 7/5 williamhill
4.6 points return 8.5
The strongest win
Napoli win
Brilliant trixie CC
Evening gents,
Well done to all who made a bit today.
My over 3.5 goals Everton v Utd was one short and the red card never materialised…thought both looked good during the second half but there you go.
Just the one tonight after having ‘ummed and ‘arred for a while:
Double on both the Napoli and Real games going over 2.5 goals…pays 1.48.
Good luck.
HARRY-cheers brugges scored twice in last 15 mins.guna try yours now……
My MAIN bet for tonight is:
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OVER 5.5 REAL MADRID CORNERS – 1/1 EVENS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @ Bet365
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An absolute steal – Real Madrid love there corners and at evens in my opinion this is a great bet !!!
Good luck if you follow :-)
Challenge bet 1
Napoli and Real Madrid double
£10 returns £24.94
Well done CC…nice little trixie that!
CC I’ve had a good day so far hope it ends that way
Harry-reading the post just now( im working til midnight) you had a good day- see jose’ got
His boring draw too
Bit all in at the moment and need real madrid and lyon for around 45 points back
Not a good day unless these come in
Celta Vigo 1-0
Wow reserve reims defenders are pretty sh!t.
CC glad to hear you took it too mate
2-0 Lyon , nice and early
Chile Primera B
Coquimbo Unido vs Union San Felipe in-play
This match sees second bottom at home to second top and Union San Felipe are also top of the form table.
However, Unido have a good home record with 3 wins and 2 draws in the 2nd phase of the Clausura including a 4-1 defeat of the team currently 1st (their only defeat in 10) so it’s goals I’m looking to.
Unido’s last 10 at home have seen 8 over 2.5ftg (the other two ending 1-1) and 9 seeing btts. They have scored at least twice in 6 of their last 8 at home and have scored in all of the last 10.
San Felipe’s last 10 away have seen 8 over 2.ftg with 7 seeing btts. They have scored at least twice in 6 of the last 7 away games (only failure came last time out but this was away to 1st placed San Luis whose home record reads P5 W5 F8 A0)
Both teams are top of the goals average table with an average of 3.5 goals in Unido’s 8 and 3 per game in San Felipe’s 9.
Btts@ 1.80
Over 2.5ftg @ 1.83
Real Madrid WILL not win tonight maybe a draw BUT won’t win
Backed C
Backed Celta Vigo @ 2.20 @1-0 up.
cover for my fivefold real madrid -3 regural handicap @34 :D
close to the 10th out of 11 last bet winners @2.17 odds
Don’t care who wins as long as Real get 4 more corners :)
KEEP WATCHING FOLKS !!!,
HARRY bloody ell…its raining goals only need real n napoli
Capone31 – Indeed – Just 4 more corners needed from Real Madrid
Those last two you posted are looking good Harry!
Harry their offering u cashout?
Haha even more so now! Madrid 2-1!
Tfft it was looking dodgy but coming together well.
Shocking day could be turning a corner
Might even get to -45 from target
Capone sorry 3 more now :-)
Ooh I’ll keep schtum :D
Right back to work……GL LADS
Bloody Nora,
Seeing as goals are flying in…in-play double on over 4.5 goals Napoli game and over 5.5 in Lyon’s…pays
1.26.
HullShaker, it’s all the goals we were missing earlier. Good shout from the guy earlier who said Reims were missing defenders – that’s what makes this site.
Jordan whats 5he best time for basketball tonight if i get some spending money from spain
Say again Dave?
Jordan CC it’s looking pretty good at the moment, yesssss goal I’ll check my cash out
He comes up again.
Small bet on James Rodriguez Anytime @ 2/1 @ 365 **WIN**
Plums happens to me whenever i go unders
Mr fixit that was me about the reims defenders. Found it whilst researching. I take a lot of tips from this site so nice to give something back.
sanjay, was a good spot. Team news as I always say is vital.
Coquimbo Unido score to bring up both bets in the first half
1-2 after 45 mins
Btts @ 1.80 WIN
Over 2.5 ftg @ 1.83 WIN
Nice one jordan, what time is the first basketball match your on tonight.
Might chuck some cover down on the madrid game
Dave its just started mate. Think most are on the Spurs -6.
Ronaldo any time is 7/5 at the mo.
Bet365
Nice one Jordan – great shout there at 2/1.
Mr F…i’ll be happy if the goals keep coming – second halfs have been very kind to me this weekend!
Ah Juve were terrible I thought we were onto a winner there Mr Fixit. better luck next time eh
Great goal
Thanks Mr f.
Real Madrid happy with what they have so the 2 more corners they need may not come in until the next game lol
Your win Btts treble is looking nailed on Harry. Was too late for the Napoli game but got Lyon & Madrid as a double. Cheers pal
Yes Harpreet, only a steal if they don’t score 4 goals, knew that could happen
Nice pull for a Sunday night Harry! Well done.
cheers nick, good end to the night, just need NYRB to score a goal now
Decent XI Harry so should hope you get one. I’ll be asking for two.
Harry fantastic stuff well done again
WIN & BTTS
Napoli
Lyon
Real Madrid
1pt Trixie (treble 37/1)
***WON***
KING HARRY -fantastic mate good bloody day
Wato, Jordan cheers guys. MLS game starting soon, no expert on them but the stats looked pretty convincing too and you said they’re playing well
Mondays Bets
Valencia -1
Evens
SkyBet
Feel very confident that Valencia will win comfortably against a Grenada side with the worst away record in the division, lost last 5 away from home including the 9-1 demolition by Real Madrid.
Wright Philips 1st gs @4/1
Anytime @11/10
Harprat you muppet. On your usual mumbo jumbo I see….
“Arsenal will not win” – they didnt lose but your bet of Chelsea to win did.
Then you go on to say you went on the double chance??? Wtf you on.
YOUR “MAIN” bet was another flop “an absolute steal”
Who comes out with rubbish like that…obviously wasnt a steal.
Yeah and now hes started losing he don’t number his bets either.
Unreal…
2 goals in the last 2 minutes – that brings up the in play double Over 5.5 Lyon game and over 4.5 goals Napoli game.
My actual tip, over 2.5 goals double Real and Napoli game came in after about 25 minutes.
A very lucrative weekend…with some very lucky late goals!
Challenge bet 1
Napoli and Real Madrid double
£10 returns £24.94
WON
Wow the odds on a treble of tonight’s three big games finishing 4-2 or even an over 5.5 would have equalled big £££££’s
WON 4.6 points return 8.5
The strongest win
Napoli win
WON 18 points returns 40
Real madrid win
Sevilla win
Also had monoco and Lyon double returning 5.7 points
Lost on pretty much everything else today and only needed 1 arsenal goal for a very good day.
Bank 54 points
Still minus 46 and did not go about things in the right way today but ended well.
Hope others had a good day
Glad u are recuperating a good chunk of that lost cash Dave, well done on your bets today
Just a small stakes bet but on the following
Ecuador Primera A
Barcelona vs LDU Quito
This is all about the away side who have been amazingly consistent – 7 home games and 7 wins, 6 away games and 6 draws
They’re above Barcelona in the league and the last 3 H2H with Barcelona at home have been tight with two 1-0s for the home side and one draw
Going for a magnificent 7
Draw @ 3.30
Hi all.
Two games again I will be showing profit or loss for-
Blooming v Oriente Petrolero. Bolivia 11pm.
Over 2.5 mg 9/10 & over 2.5 mg 9/4. SPLIT STAKE 70/30.
Seattle Sounders v Portland Timbers. MLS 02.30am.
Over 2.5 mg 1/1 & BTTS & over 2.5 mg 13/10. SPLIT STAKE 13/10.
Over 2.5 mg DOUBLE 2.6/1 (50% of stake)
Haha over 3.5 mg in Blooming match 9/4. FS.
Boston w over 1.5 fhg @13/8, happy days clawed back that Madrid corner crap, ragin I didn’t do Harry’s 37/1, hope W Philips can nick one
Seattle Sounders v Portland Timbers. MLS 02.30am.
Dempsey (Seattle) anytime scorer 6/4, Dempsey first goal 9/2 & Adi (Portland) anytime scorer 3/1. SPLIT STAKE 50/10/40. MLS SCORER series bet 5.
*** scorers taken without starting teams.
Bolivia LFPB
Blooming vs Oriente Petrolero 11pm
H2H record with Blooming at home
23/11/14 Blooming 3-2 Oriente Petrolero
11/07/14 Blooming 1-1 Oriente Petrolero
23/02/14 Blooming 2-3 Oriente Petrolero
28/11/13 Blooming 1-3 Oreinte Petrolero
28/04/13 Blooming 2-2 Oriente Petrolero
26/08/12 Blooming 1-1 Oriente Petrolero
29/04/12 Blooming 2-2 Oriente Petrolero
30/10/11 Blooming 1-2 Oriente Petrolero
Blooming have scored in 7 of past 8 home games
Oriente Petrolero have scored in 10 of past 11 away games (drew a blank last time out but hope it’s a one off)
Sure by now it’s no surprise I’m tipping btts – no price yet until it comes on in play but hopefully not too short
Posted earlier
Bolivar, the strongest o2.5mgs double 6/4 WON
Stuck a few quid on Jordans nyrb o1.5tgs 11/10
Some nice wins on here again keep it up……….
Kyle – Thanks bud but lost my discipline again today and lucky it finished that way.
Cheers for the tips the other night Shaun, got a few points out of them :-)
Other games I will be taking the goals option for-
Sky Blue women’s match (11pm) over 2.5 mg
Vancouver Whitecaps 2 match (11pm) BTTS
Shaun
You doing these in a single or double
Sky Blue women’s match (11pm) over 2.5 mg
Vancouver Whitecaps 2 match (11pm) BTTS
Orlando City v Toronto. MLS 01.00am.
Kaka (Orlando) anytime scorer 11/5 first goal 13/2 SPLIT STAKE 40/10.
Giovinco (Toronto) anytime scorer 11/4 first goal 8/1.SPLIT STAKE 40/10.
MLS SCORER series bet 6.
*** scorers taken without team line ups.
Over 2.5 match goals Sky Blue FC Women v Washington Spirit Women
BTTS Vancouver Whitecaps II v Seattle Sounders II
Over 2.5 match goals Blooming v Oriente Petrolero
Borrowed from Richard and Shaun
1 point treble returns 5.2 (late night interest)
Would have done singles but did not want to risk an improved bank to early and a little treble will do me.
Capone – Good recovery and I also missed that acca (lovely result for Harry) on a good run
Some for the early hours-
Envigado match (00.00am) over 2.5 mg
Orlando City match (00.00am) over 2.5 mg
Chivas match (00.30am) over 2.5 mg.
Sorry a few there but might not be able to post in later. GL with what ever your on as always.
1 point returns 1.9
LDU Quito NCS
LA Galaxy NCS
David- no worries mate. If my madness helps someone out then all is good. Hope all is well & GL with you bets tonight. :)
Same to you Shaun, you always provide me with some late night ideas and with Jordan on the basketball it gets hectic lol
Seattle Sounders v Portland Timbers
– 3 of last 5 ended in both teams scoring (including 4-2 and 4-4)
– Seattle has scored in all 3 of their homes games so far while Portland has scored in 2/3
– What makes me a bit more confident is that Seattle are missing Chad Marshall their best centre back. (Was also defender of the year last season)
Huge as it gets derby in the U.S so im hoping to see goals!
BTTS @ 1.83
Sorry about my manners, hello just a long time lurker of the site have been betting for a few years so thought to share some research
cheers cc glad it helped!
Napoli/Sampdoria BTTS
New York Red Bulls over 0.5tgs
Double 7/5 William Hill
**WON**
Very good end to the day that’s me done! Well done all the winners today
5/4 NAP WON
8/5 LOST
13/4 WON
37/1 TRIXIE WON
7/5 WON
Hi Gooner T
I am on that seatle sounders BTTS only with 1 point but has a good chance
Nice one Harry
I saw that bloody 37/1 but I think the missus was moaning at the fact I had my phone out again so did not back. I have the sharpie ready for when she falls asleep :-)
Well done bud, great result.
Could do with a goal in the blooming game to open things up a bit for the treble
David- Jordan’s a good guy, his only fault is that he supports a cr*p footy team! Haha.
Only kidding Jordan! ;)
Blooming red card, I’m screwed :(
David – Good luck mate :) Shaun Tanner is on this too so made me more confident. (Long time lurking so i know whos the good ones here;) )
Richard
Superb info for South America soccer
was on the btts £££ first half!
Keep the good work and il keep a sharp eye☺
1 point on each of these as singles and 0.5 on the treble
Stolen from Shaun and worth a little gamble
1 point returns 2.1
Over 2.5 MG Envigado FC v Millonarios
1 point returns 1.9
Over 2.5 MG Orlando City SC v Toronto FC
1 point returns 2.5
Over 2.5 MG Chivas Guadalajara v Club America
Treble returns 5 points
WIN Cheers Shaun and Richard (wish i did them as singles as well lol)
Over 2.5 match goals Sky Blue FC Women v Washington Spirit Women
BTTS Vancouver Whitecaps II v Seattle Sounders II
Over 2.5 match goals Blooming v Oriente Petrolero
Borrowed from Richard and Shaun
1 point treble returns 5.2 (late night interest)
Would have done singles but did not want to risk an improved bank to early and a little treble will do me.
Crap today Jorge!
Gooner T – You are right about Shaun, just a battle keeping up with his bets lol :-)
Who thinks Newcastle will get relegated ??
LOST
1 point returns 1.9
LDU Quito NCS LOST the home side just couldn’t get it going
LA Galaxy NCS WON
Anyone stick a bit on oriente petrolero next goal (when they had a man advantage)? Great to see they appear to have now had 3 players sent off in 20 minutes :-(
Cheers guys, really appreciate your professionalism :-)
Just the 5 spending off now (and about 15 yellow cards) in the Blooming match (blooming hell)!!! :-)
These are struggling big time, still time but going to sleep on it and dream of goals (hopefully 1 of them comes in to limit damage but won on the previous treble so limited damage.
1 point on each of these as singles and 0.5 on the treble
Stolen from Shaun and worth a little gamble
1 point returns 2.1
Over 2.5 MG Envigado FC v Millonarios
1 point returns 1.9
Over 2.5 MG Orlando City SC v Toronto FC
1 point returns 2.5
Over 2.5 MG Chivas Guadalajara v Club America
Treble returns 5 points
Similar requirements Orlando/Envigado BTTS double (looks unlikely to drop)…
Davros – they love a booking
Not half Dave, more booked than non-booked players! :-)
Flipping hell!!! Nothing at all in the later 3 games. 1 goal shot in 2 games and the Columbian game was a total dud. Sorry David, feel pretty bad about that mate, apologizes :(