CHARLES MOLSON (2.00) bounced back to form over course and distance last time out and should go close at decent odds in the opener at Goodwood.

The gelding has dropped to his lowest mark in three years and he was unfortunate to meet Love Dreams in peak form when chasing home the Mark Johnston-trained winner 17 days ago. Love Dreams went on to contest a Group 3 contest at Epsom and Charles Molson doesn’t meet a rival of that class today.

VOLPONE JELOIS (2.35) is thriving on his racing judged on the grey’s emphatic recent Chepstow success. A 4lb rise may not stop his progress under Megan Nicholls and he should be capable of mastering Panko, a fine third to Jabbaar at Chester.

MANCINI (3.45) paid the price for his wide-margin Lingfield success, with the handicapper lumping another 8lb on his back. That was enough to stop his progress at Haydock when readily outpaced in the race won by The Grand Visir. That was a deeper contest than today’s and Mancini may be capable of bouncing back.

LORD VETINARI (5.30) looks a bit of value in the 7f handicap. Andrew Balding’s colt never showed in a hot York handicap last time but his previous form on the all-weather puts him bang in the firing line.

He finished second to Mosalim at Chelmsford City, with subsequent dual winner Mont Kinabalu held in third, while on his next start at Lingfield Lord Vetinari ran fourth to smart duo Emblazoned and Georgian Manor.

Recommended Bets

  • Goodwood 2.00 – Charles Molson (11-2, bet365)
  • Goodwood 2.35 – Volpone Jelois (5-2, bet365)
  • Goodwood 3.45 – Mancini ew (7-1, Ladbrokes)
  • Goodwood 5.30 – Lord Vetinari ew (7-1, bet365)

Johnb's Sunday Tips

  • Goodwood 2.00 – Ateem 10-1 ladbrokes ew 1/5 odds 3 places
  • Goodwood 2.35 – Miss M 15-2 paddy power ew 1/5 odds 3 places
  • Nottingham 3.30 – Company Asset 9-2 888sport NAP
  • Goodwood 3.45 – Chivers 6-1 ew 1/5 odds 3 places NB
  • Nottingham 4.05 – Justanotherbottle 9-2 skybet
  1. the notorious 4 months ago

    John, in the past couple of years in Ireland, we have seen many notable trainers pack in training because of the cost. Two big names that come to mind are Colm Murphy and Sandra Hughes, Im sure there more. John, racing is business these days for those who are looking to make a profit.
    In other words is it impossible for a man of straw to compete with the likes of the Sheiks and the Ricci’s?

    • Johnb 4 months ago

      Not really, anyone can make it but they do need the right person to advise them and that person is me as there is nobody better

  2. double carpet 4 months ago

    Belmont Stakes

    HOFBURG 9/2

    Last 2 winners were out of Tapit and Hofburg is the only horse in the race by him.
    Don’t think Justify will stay the 12f

  3. double carpet 4 months ago


  4. double carpet 4 months ago

    Fair play to Justify. Won well

  5. elvis parsley 4 months ago

    Had a pleasant day at Haydock on Saturday, not too full, glorious weather and no sign of trouble for a change.
    Only downer was the fact I won nowt, not a penny ??
    Only win I had was a sidebet thanks to Alan and gazh with a forecast in bedrocks race at musslebrough..

    Cribbs causeway who finished last of 8 at Haydock on Saturday is entered again today 3-30 Nottingham along with titi makfi who was withdrawn at Haydock to run in this.
    Don’t know what to make of it.
    If yesterday was a blip 6-1 cribbs is a decent price ??.

    Might just have a dabble on belabour 5-15 Nottingham ew 16-1 for interest.

    Well done you lucky Saturday winners ?

    • gazh 4 months ago

      Only winners I had were thanks to Alan. Would of normally been at Haydock but was working. Had a few losers but luckily managed to back amazing red at Newmarket and threw a lucky31 of Alan’s on. Biggest disappointment was backing Crimson Rosette Ew @18/1 only for it to get beat by 1/2 length. Charlie Fallowes was bullish in his column in R&.FO.

    • 4 months ago

      Elvis i wish i had known you were there i went up to see busstop and the guys at haydock yesterday it was a cracking day we could have all met up for an ale or 2 mate.

      Sorry i havnt been on in a while everyone had alot on. I have something big for us on tuesday hoping for a decent price as well unless word gets out about it. I will post as early as possible for you all.

  6. Johnb 4 months ago

    2:00 – Ateem 10/1 ladbrokes eachway 1/5 odds 3 places

    2:35 – Miss M 15/2 paddy power eachway 1/5 odds 3 places

    3:30 – Company Asset 9/2 888sport NAP

    3:45 – Chivers 6/1 eachway 1/5 odds 3 places NB

    4:05 – Justanotherbottle 9/2 skybet

  7. 4 months ago

    Spot lite 7-4
    N 4.40


  8. ew thief 4 months ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    Easy tiger 2.00g 12/1
    Starboy 2.55n 13/2
    Jet streaming 3.30n 9/1
    Gavlar 3.45g 10/1
    Midnight Malibu 4.05n 12/1
    Scrafton 5.15n 12/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky63☘️Gl all

  9. 4 months ago

    mr f why do you keep deleting my posts you know horses4courses is a troll but you let him post all these losers for people who dont realise who then put money on them. just watch mr f hes a joke

    • Mr Fixit 4 months ago

      Just put up tips and ignore anyone else.
      I’m rarely on the racing thread but if I was I’d follow Thommo and other people I trusted to put up winners.
      Since this thread started people have used multiple identities and I don’t know why they bother.
      If they want to talk themselves let them get on with it – just scroll past.

  10. jimba 4 months ago

    Big Well done all winners on Saturday Alan, Johnb, DC excellent tipping ?, I didn’t have a bet on horses yesterday but did have a win on the rugby ?, on johnb’s & Alan’s today. GL ?

  11. 4 months ago

    Antepost post bet

    Wokingham stakes

    York 23rd june

    Blue de vega 18-1

    • 4 months ago

      Already on this at 33s mate this race has been the plan for bluey!

  12. elvis parsley 4 months ago

    Horses for courses.

    Your ante post tip for blue de la Vega is in fact run at royal Ascot and not York.
    Hope you didn’t put York on your betting slip mate.

    • Mr Fixit 4 months ago

      I hope mr chris isn’t on York too!

      • elvis parsley 4 months ago

        Just watched justify’s brilliant triple crown win.

        If you get a chance watch the run from the start of the 2nd place gronkowski, he was practically failed off after 2 furlongs and would surely have won if he was closer to the pack at the start.
        He ran at Newcastle as recently as March for Jeremy noseda.

        • recoba 4 months ago

          Aye Elvis, nightmare start or he would have pushed Justify all the way. End up watching Secratariots 25l win in 73 again….what a procession that was. ?

    • 4 months ago

      He put the wrong time on last nights nap as well ?‍♂️ i think the key word was the wokingham in his tip no need to point a trivial thing out he gets enough stick on here for no reason

      • 4 months ago

        Hes one of the best on here as well i dont get it . Gl h4c on yours today as always

        • elvis parsley 4 months ago

          Aye h4c win rate is very good.
          My comment was my dry humour.
          But I have placed a ante post bet before with the race time and it was voided.
          Bookies can be fickle when it comes to paying out.

          • elvis parsley 4 months ago

            Wrong race time that is.

            • 4 months ago

              elvis did you write the wokingham at the top of your bet? if u did it shouldnt matter if you wrote york bookies will know its just a mistake

    • 4 months ago

      Noted. I am 83 i get mixed up at times. I bet online so my bet went through

      • elvis parsley 4 months ago

        I know where you’re coming from.
        I’m 92 and I can’t even remember when I was 83, but age is but a number.
        My grandfather still runs marathons f.f.s.

  13. double carpet 4 months ago

    NAP HOPE IS HIGH 2/1 5.15 not
    NB FOUR WHITE SOCKS 9/4 4.55 good


  14. azzthewigan 4 months ago

    optimiickstich hill ew tamreer 4.55 single ..quick breath 5.30 single ..well done winners so far and all winners yesterday

  15. 4 months ago

    sorry mr f dont know what happend there

  16. 4 months ago

    Elvis im a betting shop manager i can guarantee that if you wrote that bet out you would be payed out. There is only 1 wokingham and only 1 wokingham on june 23rd. You were being very pedantic there.

    • elvis parsley 4 months ago

      Pedantic ?.
      Big word that.
      I thought pedantic was a Croatian footballer.

      Lighten up, its called humour f.f.s.

  17. azzthewigan 4 months ago

    well done alan

  18. azzthewigan 4 months ago

    well done John b

  19. belter 4 months ago

    Superb tipping again Alan

  20. benleoella1951 4 months ago

    Nice double alan also johnb chipped in with nice punt you two are tops,?

  21. dkblindspot 4 months ago

    Thanks Alan another couple nice priced winners today.

  22. elvis parsley 4 months ago

    I have a hunch you might be deleted soon Alex.
    Why do you dislike h4c ?.

  23. 4 months ago

    Alexi45 and Elvis you 2 are the ultimate internet dweebs chatting sh*t on the internet all day every both single i bet lolol

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