Oct 11: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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IT was close but no cigar for Johnb on Monday with a second and a third place for his tips.

He’s now 9.12pts down for the month and has 5pts in total staked on Tuesday.

Johnb’s Tuesday Tips

Leicester 4:45
Bonnie Arlene 6-1 William hill

Musselburgh 4:55
Napoleon Solo 9-2 NB William hill

Wolverhampton 8:15
Misu Pete 9-2 NAP William hill

Also 3 x 0.5pt doubles & 1 x 0.25pt Eachway treble

 

Antepost Tips

2000 Guineas 2017
CHURCHILL 20-1 (now 8-1) bet365

2017 Derby
CHURCHILL 33-1 (now 20-1) racebets

2000 Guineas 2017

Blue Point 14-1 racebets

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

57 Comments
  1. Profile photo of davyb
    davyb 2 months ago

    istimraar 2.00 hutt
    fujaira 2.10 lec
    just be lucky 2.40 lec
    boom the groom 3.45 lec

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    leando 2 months ago

    4.55 Muss

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    elvis parsley 2 months ago

    If you backed every Graham gibbons mount in the last 5 years to a level £1 stake, you would now be £695 down.
    Are other jockeys returns this shocking ?
    I did a random search on his stats as he rides one of johnb’s tips tomorrow.
    Is this the norm that following low grade jockeys religiously is not advised.

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      elvis parsley 2 months ago

      Saying that, I think Napoleon solo is good value with gibbons on tomorrow in a pretty dire race.

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        Johnb 2 months ago

        I wouldn’t advise following any jockey blind, the profit/loss stats are pretty useless as they just tell us not to back every mount a jockey has.
        You pointed out Graham Gibbons but that doesn’t actually tell us if he is a good or bad jockey, over the same 5 year period other jockeys are
        Ryan Moore -£442
        Frankie Dettori -£352
        Paul Hanagan -£530
        Even looking at a jockeys number of wins doesn’t tell us if they are good or bad,
        We have to look deeper into the stats and look at each ride separately to see how that ride compared to the horses odds,

        Everywhere I look I see quotes of Ryan Moore the best jockey ever, but does riding the best horses make him the best jockey?
        Lulu Stanford came out with a good quote when she said “it’s too easy to sit there and look pretty when you are on the best animal but it teaches you nothing”

        Going back to Gibbo, I still rate him very highly and bigger trainers are starting to go to him again, like Haggas and Stoute,
        I keep saying Gibbons isn’t just a jockey, he is a horseman and to me he doesn’t have any flaws in his riding, he can settle a horse which is important as it saves more energy for the finish, he can read a race well as he knows where to have his horse in the race, he is an excellent judge of pace and he is one of the strongest jockeys in a finish I have seen

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      jazzerbhoy 2 months ago

      Elvis Wish I was only 695 down after 5 years betting, I was more than that last week.😜

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        2 months ago

        Elvis you seem on the same level as me with the horses…pretty clueless! I’m trying my best to learn off these great guys also. I found out yesterday it isn’t as easy as i first thought. Johnb you don’t half seem to know your stuff! Impressive!! :)

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    recoba 2 months ago

    You would need to be daft to just follow a jockey blind or “religiously” anyway.
    The jockeys mentioned above do help in my confidence when backing a horse but its one of the least factors I take into consideration.

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    azzthewigan 2 months ago

    Addicted to you 1.50 sarpech 2.00 Mr antolini 2.55 air command 5.00 l15 and win singles

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    busstop 2 months ago

    Morning all no bet myself yesterday but a couple of nice naps by alanm and bozz yesterday gave me a profit in the naps bet.

    Huntingdon today and slim pickings , few very short priced favs (not worth tipping) but going against one of them with my nb

    15.35 VEXILLUM 13/2 BET365 ** NB **

    16.35 BOLD ADVENTURE just took 10/1 again with bet365 many bookies only giving 6/1 or abouts ** NAP **

    just 2 bets all day for me .Will look at the usual suspects naps as well.

    gl all

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      2 months ago

      Hi, what’s the ‘naps bet’ you mentioned? I apologise for my naivety.

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        old al 2 months ago

        Nap is what you put down as best bet and nb your next best.

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        busstop 2 months ago

        a lot of people just follow certain tipsters on here .So put all their naps together in one bet lucky 15 ,yank etc

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        stevecee 2 months ago

        I like to put the naps in a super low stakes accumulator for fun. One day the stars will all align haha :)

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      busstop 2 months ago

      my nap is drifting like mad 16/1 now although still 7/1 with a few bookies.Think its got to be e/w at that price .

      it got beat by princes tiana by a neck in july and is now 5lb better of with it .Princess tiana is 3/1 fav for todays race.

      gl

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        dragoon 2 months ago

        21/1 now stuck it on E/W. Good luck!

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          gengar 2 months ago

          think i cursed ya mate buy putting bet on it appologies lol, soon be full flowing jumps and youll be swimming in winners good too see you back regularly anyhow.

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    2 months ago

    Hi guys,

    150pm muss powerful love 11t4 £6 win
    250pm muss love marmalase 6t1 £4 win
    325pm galway lilly the lioness 7t1 £4.50 win ***best bet***
    425pm muss mininggold 8t1 £3.50 win
    435pm hunt monbeg farmer 12t1 £3win
    455pm muss lovin’ spoonful 16t1 ***next best***£2 win
    525pm muss circuitous 16t1 £2 win

    Total stake £25 :)

    Good luck guys and well done yesterday :)

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    alex 2 months ago

    Leicester 5:50 Artists Model 5/2

    Wolverhampton 7:15 Mr Black 11/8

    Ladbrokes 7.33/1 Ladbrokes

    Kimberella running in 3:20 will take all the beating me thinks

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    jimron12 2 months ago

    Going to do a Yankee today

    I only fancy one today is over in Ireland

    Aspen colardo 2.55 evs

    Prices is dire but it’ll be ok for the yankee waiting for the usual suspects to post now

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    peter daryll 2 months ago

    Kiribati 3/1 – 2.20 mussleburgh – nap

    Makkaar 9/1 – 4.15
    Leicester

    Socalites red 11/1 – 5.45 Wolverhampton – Nb

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    geoffhiggy 2 months ago

    13:50 Musselburgh Four Kingdoms 14/1 & Addicted To You 6/1
    DOUBLED WITH
    14:55 Galway Tikannen Express 16/1
    GLA

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    ew thief 2 months ago

    Morning all couldn’t get on yesterday well done Alanm & boz
    Imperial link 2.40l 16/1
    Humidor 3.45l 7/1
    Stoneham 3.55m 7/1
    Landing night 4.25m 20/1
    Riponian 4.55m 12/1
    Dark crystal 5.25m 11/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky 63
    Gl all

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    geoffhiggy 2 months ago

    Nice picks EWT, I’m going to take Imperial link, Landing night, Riponian & put them with Tikannen Express for an E/W Lucky 15
    GLA

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    alanm 2 months ago

    NAP Duke Of Firenze 3/1 3.20 Musselburgh
    NB Virile 9/4 5.45 Wolverhampton
    They’re off and running Four Kingdoms 16/1 1.50 Musselburgh
    Galway Mighty Concorde 11/2 2.55 GL

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    dragoon 2 months ago

    What are people thoughts on Boom The Groom @ 3:45 Leicester?

    Any advice will do.

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      alanm 2 months ago

      dragoon hard race with so many front runners who could leave themselves for one to swoop late like Poyle Vinnie 9/1 or Humidor 9/1 very small stake race but may be good to watch.

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        dragoon 2 months ago

        Thank you @alanm. Better for each way you think?

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          alanm 2 months ago

          @dragoon if your going to back it win only if you look at it’s form it wins or doesn’t place most times and seems to dislike small fields hope that helps.

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            jimron12 2 months ago

            Humidor for me 👍 Ew

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            dragoon 2 months ago

            Hey @alanm thank you sooooooooo much. I took your advice and didn’t go each way on boom the groom so saved some money. Also did and small each way on Humidor. Humidor finished 3rd, nice little profit on each way.

            You a star!! Keep up the good work!!

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    jimron12 2 months ago

    Yankee is

    Aspen Colorado 2.55
    Duke of Firenze 3.20
    Azam 2.10
    Taraz 5.15

    Good luck all

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    bozz 2 months ago

    Hi everyone

    L 3.10 THAT IS THE SPIRIT 10/3 NAP

    L 4.15 MAKKAAR 12/1 E/W

    L 5.15 TARAZ 6/1 NB

    L 5.50 NEVER GIVE IN 16/1 E/W

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    ticketyboo 2 months ago

    3:55 Musselburgh “GLADIATOR KING” 4/1 BET365 Sent over from the stable of AJ Martin in Ireland for a small race at Musselburgh could be a tip in itself.

    5:50 Leicester “ARTISTS MODEL” 5/2 BET365

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    denman 2 months ago

    3.55 muss status quo nb
    4.25 muss one boy nap
    good luck

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    jazzerbhoy 2 months ago

    Tickety yes I noticed that.
    Was going to nap Status Quo but the martin horse in jps colours too,seems a tip in itself.
    Anyway here’s my nags at Mussleburgh
    2.20 Filudo ew
    2.50 Canny Style nnb
    3.20 Kimberella nap
    4.25 Bunce ew
    4.55 Riponian
    525 Oak Bluffs. Nb
    3.55 5/6 rev fcast.
    Good luck today.

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    jimron12 2 months ago

    Azam you swine!

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    theplug 2 months ago

    nap 4-45 hunt exemplary 4/1
    nb 4-25 mussel bond bonmshell 12/1 ew
    brelade 5/2 galway 5-25
    aspen colorado 5/2 galway 2-55

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    bassman3530 2 months ago

    4.15 Leicester valley of rocks

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    jimron12 2 months ago

    I give up hahaha 25/1 shot!

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    Lovely De Sousa ride 👏👏
    I have said many times I thought he was the worst champion jockey ever

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      shauncpfc 2 months ago

      2 2nds by next to nothing, what does it take to get the win aha.

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      elvis parsley 2 months ago

      What about the 2000 champion Kevin darley ?
      How the [email protected] did he win it.

      Unlucky with the 2 seconds johnb, seems to sum up today’s racing. Sometimes you get a first impression from first glance that the days cards are s@@t, today was such a day.

      I fancied Napoleon solo myself, and ooohd and aaahd between 2 longsdon nags as my daily single, I chose Hannibal the great over sarpech.
      Sarpech won and Hannibal was a non runner.
      Its enough to make you weep.

      Samantha, thank you for the ‘clueless’ compliment, not!.
      If you read my piece I didn’t say I backed gibbons religiously, was merely pointing out the perils of following one jockey .

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        champyr 2 months ago

        If you backed Lulu blind this year you’d be in profit, not many rides of course.

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          elvis parsley 2 months ago

          Aye, spot on.
          If you backed here career 121 rides at £1 a go, you would now be +£25.
          Fair play to her.
          Take it she has had a few big price wins to boost her totals.

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          Johnb 2 months ago

          Yeah she has had her fair share of injuries but in her two seasons she is averaging a win or place every three rides which is good going
          17 wins and 22 places from 121 rides.
          This year 14 wins and 14 places from 96 rides isn’t bad with all the big priced runners she gets

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    jazzerbhoy 2 months ago

    6 pics at Musselburgh one winner at 5/1 not enough to save the bacon.
    Tonight I’m on with misu pete johnb tip and that bandit Dalglish who runs Ryan the giant at 5/1 9.15 .
    Good luck tonight

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    busstop 2 months ago

    A Tuesday to forget for me 2 poor runs

    gl

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    ew thief 2 months ago

    Just had a ring for stanlow in the last any price gla

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    Johnb 2 months ago

    Wednesdays Tips

    Wetherby
    4:00
    The Grey Taylor 5/1 NAP coral

    Nottingham
    3:50
    Great Hall 8/1 NB coral

    4:55
    Swiss Affair 9/1 coral

    Also 3x 0.5pt doubles & 1x 0.25pt eachway treble

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    2 months ago

    Yay 22t1 winner! :)

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