STRUGGLING Cleveland Browns looks set for more woe when they travel to high-flying Cinncinati Bengals in the Thursday night NFL showdown.

The Bengals have made the best start in their history with seven straight wins while the Browns, who are without starting quarterback Josh McCown tonight, have just two victories from their eight matches.

The home side are strong favourites at 2-11 with Marathonbet to triumph and 10-11 at Betfred to score over 28.5 points against a side they spanked 30-0 in the same fixture last season.

Browns are outsiders at 24-5 with Betfair while the any time touchdown betting is led by Bengals stars Jeremy Hill and AJ Green at 8-11 with bet365 and Tyler Eifert at 11-10 with William Hill.

At the Paris Masters tennis there’s some cracking third-round matches today including Andy Murray in a Davis Cup Final dress rehearsal against David Goffin, Kei Nishikori versus Richard Gasquet and John Isner taking on Roger Federer.

There’s also the finale of England’s final cricket Test with Pakistan among the sporting highlights so let’s hear all your tips and thoughts and good luck with your bets.

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  1. Jordan 3 years ago

    This is more of a interest for tomorrows game as I’ve got the Bengals in the main bets over the weekend.

    The Cleveland Browns will be in Cincinnati for their first division square off this season. Dubbed The Battle of Ohio, Johnny Manziel will be the starting QB for the Browns and despite thinking he might put up some good numbers with DE Carlos Dunlap out for the Bengals who leads the teams is sacks. There are literally no markets available for any Cleveland WR’s or TE Gary Barnidge at the time of writing this, but putting trust in Johnny Football is probably not something I’d be inclined to do anyway. The Browns will also be travelling with a depleted secondary. Joe Haden is one of the best DB’s in the league and will miss the game due to concussion, as will SS Donte Whitner, and DB Jordan Poyer. Haden and Whitner are both 1st string with Poyer back up to FS Tashaun Gipson who has had a niggling ankle injury but is expected to play.

    The Browns led the Cardinals on Sunday by 10 points at the half but once more had a second half to forget, not managing to get a point on the board, with the Cards coming back to score 24 points and win 34-20, with Carson Palmer totaling 374 yards with 4TD’s.

    The Bengals will be looking to go 8-0 for the first time in franchise history and would love to do it against their bitter Brown rivals. AJ Green was targeted 17 times last week in Pittsburgh but they were fighting for the win. He ended up with 118 yards and a TD and leads the team in yards, targets, receptions, longest reception, yards after catch and first downs. With the Browns depleted secondary I think Green will get his fair share of the looks, but I’m going to be with somebody who I feel has a bit of value here despite the Browns not giving much to TE’s on the season.

    TE Tyler Eifert has been Andy Daltons next best man to throw to this year. With numbers putting him in the upper ranks of TE’s on the season. He has had a bit of inconsistency during his last two games on the road but has produced this total in every home game this season and leads the team in TDs and second in most receiving ares behind Green. I personally think that you could pick, Green, Eifert or Jones to cover their line, but with Sanu sneaking in the snaps you’re not sure which one will have the bigger game. Marvin Jones is their real deep threat and could probably cover his line with one deep pass @ 50.5 @ WillHill, but I’ll be on Eifert who is a key man on any down and Daltons current safety blanket.

    Thursday Night Football – 1:25AM

    Tyler Eifert (Bengals) Over 48.5 Receiving Yards @ 10/11 @ WillHill – 2.2 points

    Thunder had a meltdown. Just checked ESPN. Up 97-91 with two minutes to go and they lose 103-98. NBA can do one one for a few days. Thought that was nailed on with the Raptors on back to back road games. Looked good for 46 minutes at least haha

    Oklahoma City Thunder -2
    Golden State Warriors -2.5

    0.86/1 @ Skybet – 3 points **LOSE**

  2. Jordan 3 years ago

    Gio Bernard also has a very reachable total with Over 66.5 Rush and Receiving Yards @ 5/6 @ PP. Seems like a bet the chief would fancy.

  3. Gunner 3 years ago

    England folding quickly! Looks like my Pakistan bet should come in easily.

  4. aj 3 years ago

    Golden State Warriors

    Double 1.02/1 *LOST*

    Spurs win every quarter then lose the last by 10, they were 19-2 down in the first and ended up coming back to win the first 23-22 – what a waste of time that was.

  5. The wet lettuce 3 years ago

    Orlando are playing some good stuff for a young team..full of energy hope it keeps up tonight.

    Orlando+ 10
    Cleveland Cavs ML

    Evens Bet365….WON

  6. Attila 3 years ago

    Good shout Lettuce. I’m loving Orlando this year…they can’t buy a win but jeez they keep coming so close against big teams

  7. TommyT 3 years ago

    Didn’t fancy spurs last night, seen there recent run coming to and end. Instead opted for the treble below. Coming in at 27/10.

    NY Knicks +14.5 4/9
    Hawks ML 3/10
    Orl Magic + 13.5 4/9

  8. Attila 3 years ago

    Early Aussie DOUBLE:

    – Melbourne UTD ML (Aus NBL B’ball)
    – Adelaide UTD Draw-No-Bet (A-League)

    Double pays $2.30 (1.5 points)

    Melb UTD are 7-0 this year whilst Sydney are 2-5. It’s 1st vs last and UTD just beat them in the reverse fixture by double digits just the other day.

    As for the footy, well Adelaide are in bad form but Coopera Stadium is a fortress to them and it’s hardest ground to get an away win in the A-League. Melb City were exposed by Newcastle last week and this is the Reds best chance to get their 1st win of the season. At very worst it will be a draw.

    GL if u follow!

  9. Hunter 3 years ago

    Euroleague Basketball

    Efes @ Liboral Kutxa (7:45pm)

    Efes is one of the top teams in Euroleague this year and despite a lot of changes from last year’s roster, they still look like winning these types of games!

    Coach, Ivkovic is a great tactician and I’m not sure why Laboral is such big favourite. Efes have no injury worries as far as I can see!

    Yes Liboral have home court advantage but they aren’t better than Efes and at 7/4 this game stood out? I was expecting the odds to be around Evens so I’m happy to take the 7/4 offered.

    Money Line: Efes @ 7/4 Boyle Sports – 1pt staked

    Good luck!

  10. tomtie 3 years ago

    Tonight nba


    Alternative point spread double
    Evens bet365

    Been doing these wee doubles for wee while been quite successful so thot id stuck 1 up. Been taking tips from jordan huggy and rest of the gang and adjusting them slightly depending on my feelings in games

  11. Attila 3 years ago

    I’m not touching OKC for a while after they threw away an 8 point lead in the 4th qtr yesterday at home to lose by 5… Useless. Westbrook kept going for 3 pointers and kissing whilst Raptors kept making 2’s to hit the lead. Sometimes I think these players are daft… Leading by 5 or so with a minute to go why keep shooting 3’s?

  12. Attila 3 years ago


  13. PeteT 3 years ago


    All of the teams that *should* have won were hopeless last night! OKC were dreadful in the last quarter but Spurs threw away a decent lead in the last quarter too and Cavs started poorly.

    Still, another chance tonight I guess!

  14. OriaZ 3 years ago

    “Gonna try to reduce de losses tonight” … well that didn’t work 😀

    6-fold @ 7.60 – 1pt *** LOST ***

    – Hawks HT/FT
    – Cavs HT/FT
    – GSW -2.5
    – OKC -1.5
    – Bucks ML
    – Spurs ML


    Bets 17 (4-0-13)
    Points Staked: 20.75
    Points Returned: 10.3
    Profit/Loss: -10.45

    Gonna wait a bit before putting stakes up again as I’ve gone over the limit of -10pts I gave myself, will just give my input and follow 😀

  15. The wet lettuce 3 years ago

    Cheers Attila

    Yes mate Orlando will lose many but they are young and keen by the looks of it.

    I will monitor there spreads and hopefully Orlando can win us all some doh.

  16. huggybear518 3 years ago

    DISASTER LAST NIGHT , sad thing is if i avoided the ht/ft that looked good and went with spreads they`d have come in… nevermind

    huggys single ,


  17. tomtie 3 years ago

    Attila i see why ud think that about okc but i think theyll come out with something to prove tonight was actually thinking of doing them as a single on the money line but gonnae keep with ma wee doubles with level stakes for a month and see where it goes.

  18. Picksix 3 years ago


    * PHX Suns ML
    SA Spurs + 4
    ATL Hawks ML

    Treble @ EVS **WON**

    I’ve put way too much effort into this one for it lose, I highly doubt we will see a replay of last nights results too , here’s hoping anyway

    Good luck gents

  19. Picksix 3 years ago

    Looking at today’s card it looks like one to avoid,
    Only things wich stand out slightly to me are the mavs spread and the game total over 196.

  20. MSD 3 years ago

    Celtics -2 Spread @ 1.90 – 1 point. – Lost
    Cavs HT/FT & Warriors ML @ 2.03 – 2 points. – Lost

    After a good start it’s been a tough couple of days.

    I’m going to start keeping track of my wins/losses and profit etc.

    Last night I put a last minute bet on Magic +10.5 and 76ers +9 @ about 3.50. Small stakes just to experiment a bit, and that bet won.

    I wont be counting that to my NBA stats, but backing the underdogs is definitely something I’m going to look at doing again. There’s definitely value in backing the dogs.

  21. Hunter 3 years ago

    Great stuff Wet Lettuce, Picksix and Tommy. Keep it up!

  22. Hunter 3 years ago

    Euroleague Basketball

    Efes @ Liboral Kutxa

    Points Spread: Efes +13.5

    Limoges @ Olympiakos

    Points Spread: Olympiakos -3.5

    Real Madrid @ Byern Munich

    Points Spread: Byern +19.5

    Treble @ Evens William Hill – 2pts

  23. Attila 3 years ago

    Typical – I finally think I’ve got a decent win on Tennis again (I was on Gasquet) and Nishikori the little sook decided to retire, bet void. Happens every time I’m on a winner, but never when my bet is losing, argh

  24. Attila 3 years ago

    I’m on 2 singles:

    – Pliskova to win @ $1.65
    – Djokovic/ Simon UNDER 19.5 @ $1.78

  25. punterpounder 3 years ago

    inplay bet

    g.simon 4/1 @betfair he’s going strong at the moment and is worth a punt at these odds against an average looking djokovic it may lose but is worth a small punt at the current odds

    g.simon 4/1 @betfair

  26. Attila 3 years ago

    Simon is now $41 in play. no chance

  27. Attila 3 years ago

    David Ferrer 2-0 @ $2.25.

    Dimitrov is a pretender atm and how he won yesterday having 10 break points against him whilst coric faced no break points still amazes me. Tennis bet of of the day (after Gasquet which was voided)

  28. Aye Right 3 years ago

    John Isner v Roger Federer
    Roger Federer -3.5
    (Game Handicap – Match)
    Odds: 1.2
    Stake: 9.00
    Possible Return: 19.80

  29. Attila 3 years ago

    How does odds of $1.20 return double your stake Aye Right? Typo?

  30. Aye Right 3 years ago

    That means evens and a bit mate.
    Thats a copy and paste job from Betvictor.

  31. Attila 3 years ago

    Mate impossible, 9 x 1.20 = $10.80. Betvictor taking a big loss there lol

    • OriaZ 3 years ago

      @Attila, what Aye Right probably means is the odds are 2.20 or 6/5 so a little above evens. Stake 9 gets you 19.80 = 10.80 profit.

  32. Jordan 3 years ago

    Who was Westbrook kissing? Hahaha

    I share your pain Attila. Not a very nice card tonight gents. Keep stakes low if you go in. OKC had it won and threw it away. GSW did the business. My money would be on them to repeat at the moment.

  33. Picksix 3 years ago


    Cleveland Browns @ Cincinatti Bengals

    * Cinncinatti Bengals over 3.5 TDs @ 11/10

    No write up as im off to the promised land in a few hours but this what I’m on for tonight.

    Gooood luck lads

  34. Attila 3 years ago

    ***Posted Earlier***

    ***WIN*** – Pliskova to win @ $1.65
    ***LOST*** – Djokovic/ Simon UNDER 19.5 @ $1.78

    Djokovic got broken 4 times in 2nd set (7 breaks in a row) which did in the Unders bet. Small loss with Pliskova winning

  35. aj 3 years ago

    Half a point on Bengals to win every quarter @ 9/1

  36. Hunter 3 years ago

    Euroleague Basketball

    For anyone willing to part with some small change for good returns, I really think this could be worth a punt…

    Byern Munich travel to Madrid this evening off the back of a good start to their campaign, they have won 2 from 3, losing to a strong Fenerbahce side by 7 points. In contrast, Madrid have had a shaky start to their campaign losing 2 from 3 and haven’t looked too convincing in the Spanish league.

    I’m sure Madrid will turn the corner soon but they face a tricky opponent in Byern and at odds of 10/1, it’s worth a small stakes punt.

    Byern Munich @ 10/1 – low stakes (will not be counted in my running totals)

    Good luck…we’ll need it!

  37. Jordan 3 years ago

    Really tempted on Travis Benjamin to score a TD for the Browns tonight but can I put trust in Johnny Football? They have had a good connection with Manziel throwing a TD to him in both games Manziel has started in this season (3 in total). Manziel loves to scramble and when he does he’s been looking deep for Benjamin who is clocked as one of the fastest players in the NFL. I don’t think it’ll be a shutout and if anyone is to score a TD for the Browns I’d say a deep ball to Benjamin, or a red zone target for TE Gary Barnidge. Trouble is, will the Browns get in the red zone tonight? Think the Eifert wincast @ 13/10 is a good bet but seeing the Anytime TD Doubles @ Skybet, this has a reasonable chance.

    Travis Benjamin (Browns) & Tyler Eifert (Bengals) Anytime TD Double @ 11/2 @ Skybet – 0.5 a point

  38. MSD 3 years ago

    I wasn’t going to bet tonight, but I’ve changed my mind.. just the 1.

    Thunder @ Bulls.

    It’s difficult to pick a winner here with both teams looking to bounce back.

    Bull’s have had 1 extra day’s training on OKC (as they didn’t play yesterday) more time to work on defence, after getting uncharacteristically demolished by the Hornets.

    OKC do have the ability to score heavily against any team, but I’m going to take my chances here as I think the Bull’s will set up with a solid enough defence to keep the scoring down, and hopefully dictate the pace of the game in front of a home crowd.

    Under 211 Total Points @ 1.90 – 1 point.

    Bets: 15 (7-0-8)
    Profit: -1.3 points.

  39. BigB 3 years ago

    Jordan, throwing in my 2 cents, I don’t actually think Manziel has been that bad a QB this year. He has completed 56% of his passes averaging 7.86 yards. But you probably know that already if you had a little browse on ESPN! The problem I feel with backing Browns WRs to get a TD is that they simply don;t throw the ball enough with Manziel at QB. In his 2 starts this season, he threw 24 and 15 attempts. Although to be fair to him, he actually threw 3 TDs in those games, but I think here is where stats can be a bit misleading because I think one or 2 of his TDs cames from long yardage situations where its more because of either blown coverages or yards after catch, not because he threw them open.

    A bet that has my attention is Manziel’s rushing yards, you eluded to it to the fact that he likes to scramble, he has had 1 scramble in ALL games he has played, including those where he played like 2 minutes or half a quarter. The game against the Jets, he had 35 yards from 5 rushes. I would like to think the Browns will make Manziel roll out the pocket because he isn;t good enough or tall enough to play within the pocket… so what is your thought on the over 20.5 manziel rushing yars @10/13 ?

    • Dazid316 3 years ago

      ***Posted Yesterday***
      NBA Bets For Tonight

      Skybet Enhanced Acca @ 11/4 (£8) LOST
      San Antonio Spurs, Golden State Warriors, Atlanta Hawks, Oklahoma City Thunder & Houston Rockets all to win
      Spurs & Thunder letting it down

      Lowest Scoring Match @ 10/1 (£1) LOST
      Washington Wizards v San Antonio Spurs

  40. Jordan 3 years ago

    BigB. All three of his TD’s to Benjamin have been Over 40 yards. Not blown coverage either. I remember him scrambling against the Titans and throwing a bomb to Benjamin who had the run on his cover. Also against the Jets he just blew right past Cromartie. Like I said he’s one of the fastest recorded players this season so to me its not just a case on him being wide open from blown coverage. He has the speed to get past you.

    Also pass attempts might be low, but you have to consider how much they might be losing by at some stages. Certainly won’t be able to stay in the game running the ball with Crowell. I originally thought his pass yards @ 180.5 were very much reachable but that wild be a wild bet to put that much faith. Rush yards is 50/50. Carlos Dunlap is apparently out so that’s a big pass rusher missing. I think a lot of his plays will be play action, bootlegs, whatever, and Benjamin is the biggest threat for them down the field with Andrew Hawkins and Brian Hartline out.

  41. huggybear518 3 years ago

    gonna have 1 last bet , probably even now after falling flat last 2 nights.. tonight i`m gonna win

    MIAMI -4.5 away to wolves , won 5 of last 6 there hopefully whiteside is the one who gets Miami home…


    well done to last nights winners , seems the underdog is the value at the mo

  42. Jordan 3 years ago

    Very much a bet worth a punt in my opinion.

    Bengals -6.5, Over 23.5, Dalton Over 237.5 Pass Yds, Hill & Eifert both to score 4/1 @ Skybet

    Going to put £3 on that for interest so total of 3 points on tonights game.

  43. winnerallright 3 years ago

    Browns @ Bengals……..
    AJ Green all the way!! Over 88.5 receiving yrds is the only bet I’m having 2nite. Cmon the bengals.

  44. Cautious Col 3 years ago

    Good tip on Efes Hunter….

    Never bet on basketball before – jeez it’s stressful ! I cashed out up with a few mins to go. It ended level before OT, so I guess I did the right thing for once !!

  45. Hunter 3 years ago

    Col, def the right move, I let that run but cashed out on my 10/1 Byern tip with 70% profit! Just as well as Madrid shot a 3pt winner in the dieing seconds. Madrid fan so happy all round! Hope some others managed to get some profit outa those two big odd shots.

  46. Hunter 3 years ago

    Col, not sure if you know being new to bball betting but if the team you backed goes into OTHER and win, the bet is still a winner!?!

  47. Danny T 3 years ago

    Winner all right you can get his yards at 80.5 with William hill at 10/11 you know I don’t know what price you got but just as a bit of added security for you

  48. Hunter 3 years ago

    Damn you spellchecker – ^Overtime not OTHER!

  49. Jordan 3 years ago

    WA that total is horrid for Green. You can get 80.5 @ WillHill.

  50. Jordan 3 years ago

    Oh, Danny beat me to it haha

  51. Danny T 3 years ago

    Haha I was in the ball for a change mate :-)

  52. Danny T 3 years ago

    Or on the ball haha

  53. Michael 3 years ago

    N b a .Chicago Miami and Dallas enhanced 4/1 treble on betfair is this worth a punt anyone thanks

  54. Jordan 3 years ago

    In the ball haha

  55. Danny T 3 years ago

    Jordan the irony of that haha

  56. Jordan 3 years ago

    Michael the way things have gone in he NBA over the last couple of nights I’m not sure anybody is inclined to point you in the right direction

  57. Michael 3 years ago

    Cheers Jordan I made a few quid following you and huggy last year and I’m having a great week on the football so thought I’d have an over night bet and wake up to more profit, sounds like I should hold back.

  58. Attila 3 years ago

    2 NBA Bets for me today:

    – Hornets + 4.5 @ $1.92
    – Grizzlies -4.0 @ $1.92

    Hornets are on fire atm, especially from 3 point range. Grizzlies should also put away Portland who haven’t been bad but away from home are never that great.

  59. Iddy 3 years ago

    Attila – Portland are at home tonight I think??
    Not sure if that changes your thinking

  60. Jordan 3 years ago

    Iddy is correct, Portland are home.

    Michael it’s just been a bit of a mare the last couple of days. Plus NFL tonight so I’m guns blazing on that instead.

  61. leecunliffe 3 years ago

    Nfl Thursday

    Can see this being a blow out tonight wouldn’t surprise me to see a 31-3 scoreline or something similar am taking Tyler eifart anytime and aj green first td not looked at odds yet but it’s the 2 bets am going for

  62. Attila 3 years ago

    Crap- Grizzlies are playing away… In that case scrap that second tip. Just the 1 single on Hornets +4.5

  63. O Ado 3 years ago

    Where is Dazz

  64. Jordan 3 years ago

    Lee, Eifert wincast 13/10 @ WillHill mate. Green not a great price as a single.

  65. Aye Right 3 years ago

    Miami Heat against Timberwolves lads any thoughts?

  66. Aye Right 3 years ago

    Why not

    Diego Sebastian Schwartzman @ 0.4(won last 5 matches against opponent)(Never lost) (Higher Ranking)
    (Match Betting)
    Miami Heat @ 0.533(Huggy has explained)
    (Money Line)
    Double: 10.00 Possible Return: 21.46

  67. leecunliffe 3 years ago

    Jordan cheers mate I meant green first td and eifart anytime so the 13/10 green wincast looks good I’ll take that and have separate bet on eifart. Just thinking do I go for -20 on handicap will have look at odds

  68. Hunter 3 years ago

    Attila, I like the look of the Hornets, watched them a couple of times this season and they do look in good shape. Prob go with a safer spread myself and double up with Fenerbahce in tomorrows Euroleague!

  69. leecunliffe 3 years ago

    OK bet sorted

    Aj green and eifart to score anytime 3/1 at sky bet that will do to wake up to, hopefully will see the commentary Jordan advising both are in. Thanks in advance. Was going stick tenner on -19 at 2/1 but am pushing my luck as it is so will settle for the one bet

  70. Jordan 3 years ago

    Haha I’ll do my best mate. Hoping for Eifert to have a big night myself. I think Manziel will get some points on the board for the Browns but ultimately think the spread is about right. Remember you were the one who cautioned me on double digits spreads haha

  71. Aye Right 3 years ago

    River Plate (Arg) v Huracan BA
    Last 4 out of five have resolved in over 1.5 goals being scored.
    Total Goals – Over 1.5 odds 0.47 added Heat – 4 for approximately 7/4.

  72. Hunter 3 years ago

    NBA Basketball Double

    Miami Heat +1.5
    Hornets +7.5

    Double @ 23/20 Bet365 – 1pt staked

    Good luck tonigh lads!

  73. leecunliffe 3 years ago

    I know Jordan mate I always used to take teams on spreads who were asked to cover 2 tds I rarely bet teams to do it so use alternative handicap now and double or treble teams up and cover -6 if spread is set at -14 but these days it’s rare spreads are set that high these days, too many big hitters like you so spreads change

    • Dazid316 3 years ago

      NBA Bet For Tonight

      Long shot
      5 Fold @ 9/1 (£10)
      Oklahoma City Thunder +6.5
      Minnesota Timberwolves +9.5
      Charlotte Hornets +9.5
      Utah Jazz ‐2.5
      Memphis Grizzlies ‐1.5

  74. winnerallright 3 years ago

    thanks jordan & danny for heads up on AJ’s receiving yrds on willhill. unfortunately i placed bet on paddypower whilst on break from work earlier. only home now and saw yeer posts. Fingers crossed he catches 89yrds!!!!!! & gudluck jordan with Eiferts bet

  75. Danny T 3 years ago

    Touch down Eifert :-)

  76. Jordan 3 years ago

    Eifert :)

  77. Danny T 3 years ago

    Jordan great work mate yeeess

  78. Attila 3 years ago

    ***WON*** – Hornets +4.5 @ $1.92

  79. Epilipi 3 years ago

    Cheers picksix.. was on the touchdown tip

  80. Cautious Col 3 years ago

    Thanks Jordan….

    Who needs real football when you can win on the American stuff whilst you sleep !

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