Nov 13: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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JOHNB missed out on Saturday but it was a good day for many of our regular tipsters.

Well done to all those who picked winners. Johnb is 28.34pts down for the month and has one strong fancy for Sunday.

Johnb’s Sunday Tip

Cheltenham 1.55
Special Tiara 3-1 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

Antepost Tips

1000 Guineas 2017

PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 betfred

2000 Guineas 2017

CHURCHILL 20-1 (now 8-1) bet365

2017 Derby

CHURCHILL 33-1 (now 20-1) racebets

2000 Guineas 2017

BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets

Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

75 Comments
  1. Profile photo of jimron12
    jimron12 4 weeks ago

    Special tiara! Not worried by sinonsig without a penalty??

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      Johnb 4 weeks ago

      I have seen nothing to suggest that Simonsig can get back to his best since injuries, this will be one of Special Tiara’s main targets along with the Tingle Creek and Tiara also brings the best form into this race, Fox Norton should be the main danger if running

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    jimron12 4 weeks ago

    Anteros might be out again tomorrow had a quite easy race to be fair at 10/1 could be a steal….

    Winter escape nap 2.30
    Fox norton nb 1.55
    Sumkindofking ( I think this horse is a bit special) 3.05

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    Johnb 4 weeks ago

    Didn’t get any luck on Saturday, Hollie Doyle had a mare on Ritasun who was rightly backed as if defeat was impossible, the horse broke well but she has pulled the horse to the back giving the winner too much of a lead and also lost another couple of lengths turning for home,
    She hasn’t been strong in the finish as she was never in time with the horse but he still managed to fly home but was given too much to do,

    Koshari who is one of my early fancies for Cheltenham came home in last place beaten about 10 lengths but he was about 16l down coming to the last so still managed to close the gap when he was on the bridle,
    I thought the ride was strange but after being checked by the vet Koshari was found to be injured so the run wasn’t that bad.

    Thistlecrack ran his second race over fences and although some are saying it wasn’t that good a run, I thought the opposite, I thought he did really well to win with some sketchy jumping,
    Although he made some bad mistakes he never looked like falling and still won on the bridle which takes a lot of doing after mistakes like that,
    Thistlecrack was the same hurdling early on but as connections have said he has got a brain and he learns from his mistakes and I do like a brave horse that has no fear jumping,
    He was taking off too early sometimes but it didn’t affect his confidence and I was impressed,
    Bookies have kept him at 7/2 for the Gold Cup although I was of the same view as ladbrokes who have shortened him slightly

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      jimron12 4 weeks ago

      Yea agree with Thistle won like a future gold Cup winner should do in a race of that nature 👍 I was
      Impressed today with Viconte de noyer stayed on well in a tough race , might be worth keeping an eye at Chelt or national….

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    double carpet 4 weeks ago

    Well done winners yesterday. Peter alanm boz donald tipsultan davyb harry. Apologies if ive missed anyone. And great to see so many NAPS winning
    My own NAP won and my NB was heavily backed but unseated. Thats the way it goes.
    Some cracking races to look forward to on both sides of the Irish Sea at Cheltenham and Navan.

    NAP THATS A WRAP 6/4 12.35 navan
    NB SPECIAL TIARA 3/1 1.55 chelt
    EW FUTURAMIC 16/1 2.20 navan.
    Thought id give a little writeup as to why i went for this one.
    Looking at the formbook on him doesnt read too well but hes having his 2nd start back over hurdles having gone chasing. He was made fav for the Ulster national but could only manage 3rd over 3m 4f. His first run back over the sticks was over 2m 4f which is just to short so im going on the lines it was a run out. Todays extra 3 furlongs will be much more suitable and a mark of 107 over hurdles compaired to 123 over fences makes him well h’capped. Trainer also has a record of 3-7 at the track but is 2-4 over hurdles and is 1-2 this season. Hopefully he can give a good account

    Best of luck to all

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    leando 4 weeks ago

    12.25 Fontwell
    Burgess Dream 11/1 ew

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    Off the tracker Savoy Court 2.45 Fontwell
    Gl

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    rookie 4 weeks ago

    13.00 F Buachaill alainn 9/1

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      rookie 4 weeks ago

      14.30 C Modus 15/2

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        elvis parsley 4 weeks ago

        special tiara got good form here in march last 2 years at the festival. He seems to run best in the spring but never won 1st time out.
        Tough race to call with Henderson trying to do a sprinter sacre with simonsig and rejuvenate an Injured horse.

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    alanm 4 weeks ago

    Belami Des Picton early Nap 5/2 2.10 Fontwell

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    Johnb 4 weeks ago

    Yeah we will still win the league and think United will lose their next two games,
    Since the first game of the season I highlighted Hibs problem of not being able to take their chances, after 3 league games I thought Cummings was the main problem and said we should be playing Boyle upfront with Graham as that looks the best partnership,
    Lennon has dropped Cummings for Boyle finally but not yet giving Graham his chance, it’s so easy to see those two playing well together but for some reason Lennon can’t see it,
    Wish we could do a swap with Scotland, Lennon for Strachan

    Anyway Hibs will win the league comfortably in the end and we are 4/9 now

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      recoba 4 weeks ago

      Take Strachan please his team line-up’s at times are crazy he would probably give Cummings the Cpt arm band and walk his dog for free.
      Should have been shot for that starting 11 at home to Lithuania.
      Not beat the bottom 2 seeds home and away(12pts)since we qualified in 98(pretty sure) which says it all and again 2 games in…draw at home to Lithuania 😌
      Anyway enough before I hang myself on the sabath. lol
      Onwards…👉

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    davyb 4 weeks ago

    laid back luke 12.35 nav
    fox Norton 1.55 ch
    delami des piction 2.10 fon
    behind times 3.05 ch

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    busstop 4 weeks ago

    Morning all

    No bet myself yesterday but just had a quick look at yesterdays thread some nice winners.

    Cheltenham

    13.55 FOX NORTON

    14.30 WINTER ESCAPE

    15..40 BAGS GROOVE *** NAP *** advised this when it won in January took 9/2 with bet365 sure to be bet down.

    Fontwell

    14.45 CLONDAW BISTO

    15.50 ROYAL SALUTE ** NB ** Again tipped this in April when it won a hurdles race at this course 6/1 bet365 and also think this will be bet

    took the bet365 prices myself to get the bog prices ,no looked elsewhere you might get better

    gl all

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    busstop 4 weeks ago

    be watcing the rugby league this afternoon from the olympic stadium

    bet England to win 6 – 10 … 10/1

    but weve not beat the aussies for ages

    gl all

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    jimron12 4 weeks ago

    Moon racer 12.45
    Le prezien 1.20
    Fox norton 1.55 NB
    Leoncavallo 2.30 nap
    Altesse du guy 3.05
    Brahms de clermont 3.35 treb

    Good luck all

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      bazz4nik 4 weeks ago

      Hi jimron , is there any reasoning in you changing nap from the top of the page ? I follow you & other regulars but seen you’ve change your nap , I only ask as I always do all the regulars nap bets in a lucky . Cheers in advance mate 👍

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        jimron12 4 weeks ago

        It’s meant to be an rfc with leoncavallo few too many glasses
        Of red last Night I cannot pick between the pair so for me I’ll have a good go on them both
        Doing the job👍

        I’m going to do a Yankee with the forum naps aswell today will have a scout through now

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          bazz4nik 4 weeks ago

          Thanks for the reply jimron , as I say wasn’t trying to be arsey just wondering before I put my bet on . Cheers & bol 👍

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      rale 4 weeks ago

      That’s a funny one! Two NAPS in one race.

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    Morning all 14mm rain at Fontwell,which might just be enough for Chef D’Oeuvre.2.10 at Fontwell to add to Greatrex Savoy Court..2.45, and Ew bet today jenny’s Surprise 1.00 Fontwell.
    Gl

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    theplug 4 weeks ago

    hi all, i posted these last night
    moon racer 7/4
    le prezien 4/5
    special tiara 10/30
    somekindofaking
    lucky 15
    the tip from hendersons yard was a nr yesterday,but my friend phoned me last night to say henderson fancys simonsig to run a big race today .again ive backed special tiara last night

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    theplug 4 weeks ago

    DOUGIEC 14mm of rain at fontwell ill definately have a ew bet on kerry lees horse in the 1.o clock russe blanc 16/1 he loves soft ground

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    jimron12 4 weeks ago

    2.30 is meant to be an rfc with winter escape!

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    busstop 4 weeks ago

    plug what happened to your other horse yesterday THREE WISE MEN you had all that info on i missed the race pal

    bol today

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    theplug 4 weeks ago

    busstop i think he finished 6th after ran well for most of the race just wasnt good enough,the guy that gave that to me hes brother owns that horse it was a tough race

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    recoba 4 weeks ago

    Well I think ill swerve the 1.55 eh?
    Everyone’s a critic! lol
    GL

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    duncanpoundcake 4 weeks ago

    2 from the tracker
    Bags Groove ,might need the run
    Mad Jack Mytton ,can go well fresh GL.

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    theplug 4 weeks ago

    johnb as we all know thistlecrack is a fantastic horse but the gold cup is a different kettle of fish run at a faster pace he wont get away with thoes kind of mistakes also better class horses will be up against him,he was up against nothing yesterday no pressure what so ever and made a mistake like that just my opinion

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      Johnb 4 weeks ago

      People were saying the exact same thing last year, Thistlecrack can’t beat Whisper, Thistlecrack can’t beat World hurdle winner Cole Harden,

      He actually looks a far better jumper over fences than hurdles even at this early stage,
      It was only his second chase race and although it was a decent pace the mistakes came because they weren’t going fast enough for him,
      Coneygree changed the dynamics for the Gold Cup two years ago, we kept hearing novices don’t win, you can’t lead all the way with a fast pace, Coneygree did it superbly and Thistlecrack is a far better prospect,

      People are going overboard with how bad the mistakes were, all they were are a horse who has no fear seeing a fence in front of him and saying “lol I’m having this”
      He even learnt from those mistakes second time round, mostly because the pace quickened but although he stood off them it wasn’t as much as first time round, the mistakes would have been bad mistakes for any other horse but not for Thistlecrack and it didn’t even stop his momentum

      I admit with these long term predictions I will occasionally get it wrong but majority of the time I don’t and my antepost record speaks for itself

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    The plug,just with the stable in such good form the 9/1 swayed me,still case can be made for a few.Russe.Blanc will certainly find this easier than the Irish,Tizard too and Ballyheigue Bays course figures read 2131, Good luck anyway.

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    ew thief 4 weeks ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    MIRSALLE 12.45C 25/1
    CLOUDY COPPER 1.00F 12/1
    MICK THONIC 1.20C 16/1
    ALTESSE DE GUYE 3.05C 15/2
    SINGLES & LUCKY15
    GL ALL

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    recoba 4 weeks ago

    Na its Special Tiara for me.

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    statto if you are for real you would know that Bozz puts up selections for flat racing.

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    tipsultan 4 weeks ago

    Navan
    2:55 -Ballycasey (NAP)

    Fontwell-
    1.35- Remiluc (NB)
    3.50- Galros Lady

    Cheltenham
    2.30- North Hill Harvey

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    alanm 4 weeks ago

    Well done D/C great start

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    Yes thanks DC, nice start and possible pointer plug with Kerry Lee winning the first at Fontwell.

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    tipsultan 4 weeks ago

    well done the plug and jimron on moonracer

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    harryjw 4 weeks ago

    Morning,

    Yesterday turned out to be a classic slippery Saturday! The results looked very tough so well done to anyone who picked any winners. For myself buywise making the places meant I just about wiped my face. He is such a consistant horse and I really hope for connections sake he lands a big pot one day. Today will just be a watching brief for me with the racing looking tough but informative. I will post again tomorrow!

    Thanks and GL to all

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    dougiec 4 weeks ago

    Well the 1.00 didn’t go to plan,Winner off since June last year,one I foolishly put the pen through early on, still
    on we go

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    double carpet 4 weeks ago

    Well done guys with Moon Racer

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    double carpet 4 weeks ago

    SPRINTER SACRE retires.
    One of the best ever and retires while still on top.

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    alanm 4 weeks ago

    Great pics jimron and theplug WD

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    uksevern 4 weeks ago

    Busstop….Brilliant…

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    azzthewigan 4 weeks ago

    John constable 2,30 baron de plessis 3.05 allez sea 3.40. Well done all winners so far great tipping

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    jimron12 4 weeks ago

    3/3 at Cheltenham now the interesting ones are coming 👍

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    gazh 4 weeks ago

    Sad day for Nicky Henderson-Sprinter Sacre retired and Simonsig put down. 2 cracking horses.

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    alanm 4 weeks ago

    Well done tipsultan and jimron great tips on a hard Sunday

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    davyb 4 weeks ago

    Nr 2 winners no to a bad day

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    cavaggio 4 weeks ago

    Bags Groove 3.40 Cheltenham 3/1 win

    Ballymountain Boy EW ran with plenty of promise in a red hot maiden lto, 3rd 4th and 6th all won since. 40/1 stanjames

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    uksevern 4 weeks ago

    Busstop.. see previous post..

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    dougiec 3 weeks ago

    Well done everyone today,davyb great post with Behind time and 7/1 winner for busstop tipsultan,Jimron the plug,just about everyone bar me and Johnb.Well we will try tomorrow,thanks for putting cash in pockets.

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    alanm 3 weeks ago

    Big well done Busstop great tipping and all other winners today onwards we go

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    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Anyone got any highlights from last few days I liked Viconte de noyer , fox norton , anteros and moon racer looks a supreme horse them 4 stick out anyone else?

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    blaxi263 3 weeks ago

    3.30 n holiday magic opened at 28/1 on Sportsbook now into 6/1

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    Johnb 3 weeks ago

    November 30.34pts down

    Mondays Tips

    Newcastle
    4:30
    Clubland 11/2 NAP bet365

    5:00
    Napoleon Solo 9/2 NB bet365

    Double 34.75/1 bet365

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    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Black mischief nap/NB 7/4

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    busstop 4 weeks ago

    lol look above someone talking about football oh its you

    Talk about short memory

    bol today

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    jimron12 3 weeks ago

    Lol ok

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