May 2: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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JOHNB put up three big-priced horses on Monday but none were winners.

He’s hoping for better luck today with two Yarmouth picks.

In case anyone missed them his April stats were 39.46pts down. From 27 Naps he had 12 winners which was a 44.44 per cent success win rate.

Well done everyone who had Bank Holiday winners and good luck on Tuesday

Johnb’s Tuesday Tips

Yarmouth 3.25
Hint Of Grey 3-1 NAP bet365

5.0
Across Dubai 6-4 NB coral

Double 8.5-1 bet365

Antepost Tips

  • 1000 Guineas 2017 – PROMISE TO BE TRUE 20-1 Betfred (now 25-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – CHURCHILL 20-1 bet365 (now 6-4)
  • 2017 Derby – CHURCHILL 33-1 Racebets (now 7-1)
  • 2000 Guineas 2017 – BLUE POINT 14-1 racebets (now 33-1)
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71 Comments
  1. Profile photo of generous
    generous 5 months ago

    CARLTON FRANKIE nott 13/8
    Nap/nb gluk all.

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    generous 5 months ago

    CARAVAGGIO 2000 GUINEAS 16/1
    think Churchill will win the Derby and be main target this year .
    But CARAVAGGIO won coventry last year and is a good race to win for next year’s guineas .Gluk all…

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      Johnb 5 months ago

      Caravaggio isn’t in the Guineas but I would seriously doubt the horse would get a mile

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        snurky2 5 months ago

        Yh I don’t think he will go to the French 2000 G either . Which makes the improver and Unknown brametot 4/1 good value in my eyes

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    alanm 5 months ago

    NAP Thaqaffa 2/1 3.10 Nottingham 3pts
    NB TaureenStar 3/1 4.30 Yarmouth 1pt
    Double 1pt

    MAY-5 Pts

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    luke a 5 months ago

    Having read yesterday’s thread, I decided to go back through the racing thread archive to get John’s stats for this year. Including the 3 points lost yesterday, John currently stands at a loss of 157.84 points. Of course this is far from ideal. However, as stated by several before, John brings much more to the table than just daily tips. Not to mention the fact that no one is forced to back his, or anyone’s tips for that matter. John has knowledge beyond most of us put together. His run of form isn’t good, granted. But a slight change of luck and that deficit will soon decrease.
    All comments on here should be constructive and positive. We all have the same target, and that is to beat the bookies. So let’s all try to work together to achieve that.
    By far and away the best racing forum on the Internet.
    keep up the good work everyone. Tuesday doesn’t hold much interest to me, as I am better with jumps racing. However, I will swill give the flat a try. But I will be relying upon contributions from everyone on here too!
    Good luck all

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    tipsultan 5 months ago

    NAP won yesterday and nice start to May
    April +4.22 point up

    Brighton
    4.40- Sarangoo- (NAP/NB)- 7/2- 3 points

    Good Luck all
    May: +5.00 points
    2017: +73.50 points

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    davyb 5 months ago

    Kiribati 2.30 bri
    scribner creek 3.10 nott
    hope is high 3.25 yar
    Bahamian sunrise 3.00 bri

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    de niro 5 months ago

    5-20 Linger 100/30
    3 points win

    May 23 points up
    April 100 points up

    Good luck everyone today 😀

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    peter daryll 5 months ago

    La casa tarifa 13/8 -nap/nb
    3.45 Nottingham

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      peter daryll 5 months ago

      La casa tarifa-

      Distance and conditions ideal , Johnston and Norton are both going well , comes into this class 3 races with 2 good wins under her belt, firstly at a class 5 then a 3 , gets weight for age here so comes in bottom weight against horses mainly returning from a break and rated below her , so to receive weight is great,

      Highly tried last year but ran some solid races mainly in a class 2 where she came second of 19, that race threw up winners,

      With the fitness edge. Weight for age, conditions and trip ideal has to be a confident selection

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    recoba 5 months ago

    Wasn’t on or betting yesterday but some great stuff over the weekend gents…Cheers 👍

    She Believes…2.10. 16/1 Ew.

    Been known to land some big priced winners with the odd newcomer and this has decent breeding

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    jimron12 5 months ago

    @alanm and Peter Daryll you beat me to it

    I’m on both pick my nap being alanms and nb is peters let’s hope for a cracking day lads 👍

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    double carpet 5 months ago

    Just the one bet today

    WILLIAM DE BERLAIS 7/1 EW NAP 7.20 Kill

    Makes his chase h’cap debut today having aquired his mark with runs against the likes of Min and Anibale Fly so was clearly out of his depth but has been given a mark 13lbs lower than his hurdle rating. He has also run 3 times at the track with form figures of 221 so clearly enjoys it here. Has won twice both times on good ground which he also gets today.

    D/N nice start to the month for you well done yesterday and nice to see DavyB back. Hope all is well

    BOL

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    5 months ago

    well done yesterdays winners

    one winner myself again yesterday but 9/2 so + 0.5 on the day makes 4 winning days on the run which is pleasing.

    3.35 Brig Singyoursong 7/2
    4.40 Brig Duke of the North 3/1

    2.40 Nott Meteor Light 5/1
    3.45 Nott Lincoln Rocks 5/1

    5.30 Yarm Wahiba 7/2

    + 20 points to date

    Best of luck with your bets today guys

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    5 months ago

    1 point wins as always .

    some really good tipping on this site .Used to use a couple off other sites but find this site easy to use and great format.

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    juicin 5 months ago

    -23.32 since tracking, almost 25% of our bank down, no need for alarm yet however. A NR wasn’t ideal yesterday and we lost 3 pts with my Kate ew shout coming short.

    300 b – cosmopolitan girl 3/1, huge break to contend with but a lovely combination and I am expecting a win despite top weight and a short fav to overcome. NAP 3pts

    L15 0.2pts (3pts)

    230 b – Baby Gal 8/1, 3 very capable winners in front of her in the betting, two are returning from over 100 day breaks, I do love the fanning/johnston combination too. Channon has a short priced fresh favourite too, but at 8/1 I am happy to add her.

    600 w – Frap 13/2, I watched this horse win a year ago, a poor record since but given the trainer had a lovely day yesterday and the jockey booking, he is worth and punt in a small stakes multiple.

    240 n – Desert Explorer 3/1, couple of decent runs in a compact little race, either up against newcomers or those with long lay offs, that is besides the dreamy hanagan/fahey horse ‘Lord comander’, and it may sound silly but horse names relating to the tv show, game of thrones, have a remarkably good record, oberyn, viserion, sir jamie, my khaleesi to name but a few.

    310 n – Thaqaffa 2/1, the fact alan tipped this almost made me choose another horse, so the thread has 1 more horse to mull over, however he does seem to have a good chance and could provide us and nice profit if it comes in a on with one of the bigger priced horses above.

    Untracked yankee based on todays posts and literature: hint of grey 325y, lorelina 335b, linger 520, on fire 450n.

    Bol

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    harryjw 5 months ago

    Morning all,

    Yesterday was one of those days where everything seems to go wrong. It started badly when Oscar Rose was beaten by a 50/1 shot in a headscratcher to beat my double and continued in the same vein throughout the day. That was a poor start to the month but I am hoping to get back on track today with a confident selection.

    15.00 Brighton – Bahamian Sunrise 6/4 & Insure 2 places 10/11

    The key to Brighton is course form and Bahamian Sunrise loves it around here. His record at the East Sussex venue stands at: 2212 (beaten a nose and a neck in two of those seconds), I think he can improve that record today. On his seasonal debut a week ago he finished a close second over 6 furlongs (recording a very fast speed figure). He was only nabbed on the line that day as his stamina drained, the drop back to 5 furlongs today will be spot on and he remains on a very attractive mark (72). Everything looks in place for a big run this afternoon and he rates as a strong selection. My only nagging doubt is that Brighton has not been a happy hunting ground for me in recent years and therefore I am going to utilise the ‘insure places’ market alongside the win market. This market offers you a shorter price about a horse but rewards you with your stake returned if the horse places (similar to Asian Handicaps in football markets), as a punter who likes to minimise risk I quite like this market from time to time. Therefore, I will be playing 7.5 points on the insure market @ 10/11 & 3 points win @ 6/4 this afternoon.

    16.20 Nottingham – Plead 7/1 EW

    The top weight Plead in the 16.20 Nottingham looks worth of a small investment this afternoon. This unexposed horse ran a respectable third on his last start over C&D – traveling well into the race. While she has been raised a further 2lbs I think there is still milage within her mark of 77. She likes it around Nottingham and conditions should be in her favour. In a trappy contest she might just offer some value at 7/1 (0.75 points each way).

    Many thanks and GL to all

    May: -7.62
    Overall: +199.52

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      harryjw 5 months ago

      It is also worth noting that with the claim of George Buckell Bahamian Sunrise receives nearly 1 stone in weight from his market rival.

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        juicin 5 months ago

        Also I backed against it so everything is going for it today, should maybe considering an increased stake haha, bol.

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          harryjw 5 months ago

          Well done Juicin – I think it would have been a different story had Bahamian Sunrise not been badly hampered at the start!!

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            harryjw 5 months ago

            Keep your eyes out for Bahamian Sunrise next time he didn’t run his race (after losing lots of ground at the start) today and will be on an attractive mark.

            But that does us no favors today- that’s racing

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              juicin 5 months ago

              Cheers harry, will keep in mind your advice, however your pick didn’t lose any ground on mine, just raced wide throughout whilst cosmo girl had mr fanning on board.
              Keep up your good work.

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                harryjw 5 months ago

                Your right Juicin but it has now been confirmed that the saddle slipped on Bahamian Sunrise which as you know will have left him with no chance. Nevertheless, well done with your winner I might have to follow you tomorrow! My luck has turned with Plead going down by short head!

                BOL in the future

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                  juicin 5 months ago

                  Yea was definitely not ideal, will keep tabs on it, as you say he should be on a nice mark.

                  One swallow doesn’t make a summer haha, I am just a novice enthusiast, who is learning his craft, as I said, keep up your good work, invaluable stuff. Able to learn a lot from your write ups and tidbits shared about what types of systems you use.

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    ticketyboo 5 months ago

    :3:45 NOTTINGHAM “LA CASA TARIFA” 6/4 Bet365

    4:20 “NOTTINGHAM “MIDNIGHT VIXEN” 11/4 et365

    Good Luck

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    ew thief 5 months ago

    Morning all well done winners yesterday
    Swiss cross 3.00b 12/1
    Sexy secret 3.25y 14/1
    Silver alliance 4.00y 20/1
    Lord of the storm 5.10b 12/1
    Little choosy 8.00w 8/1
    Dynamo Walt 8.10c 10/1
    Bush beauty 9.00w 7/1
    Ew singles & ew super hienz gl all

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    snurky2 5 months ago

    March +61.4
    April -10pts
    May now +2

    Brighton 16:40
    Sarangoo 5/1 1pt win

    Want this horse to ping the start and front run today, Just like last time out at Epsom , back from a break , so will have that to over come. But if able to get a good lead early they will find it hard to peg back. Looks good value in an open race.

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    luke a 5 months ago

    Placed some bets late last night. Here’s my each way Yankee based solely on the 2 AW meetings this evening
    6.40 Power Power 13/2 now 5/1
    7.10 Abjar 4/1 now 7/1
    8.00 Gabrial The Thug 6/1 now 7/2
    8.40 Mighty Zip 7/1 now 2/1

    Shame Abjar is letting the bet down with a drift. The other newcomer I liked in the race, Mabrook, was 8/1 last night and now 11/4. So I wish I had picked that one instead.

    Win Yankee tonight
    7.30 Masterson 11/10 now 5/4
    7.40 Ickymashoo 5/2 now 3/1
    8.10 Zac Brown 5/2
    9.00 Prince of Time 2/1 now 5/2

    Also have daytime bets, all of which I think have been mentioned on here already.
    good luck all

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    u2me413 5 months ago

    Im guessing Blue point isnt going to run then sadly had a few lines from ages ago for the the 2000 guineas

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    azzthewigan 5 months ago

    baby gal 2.30 armagnac 2.40 philba 4.30 hallstaff 4.50 ew l15 well done all winners yesterday welcome back davy b

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    Johnb 5 months ago

    A looks back to 18th June 2016 when Churchill was officially tipped for the 2000 Guineas and The Derby, although I did mention him before he had even set foot on a racecourse in May,

    Johnb 11 months ago

    I can’t say Cunco won’t be a good horse because he will be a good horse, but what I can say is he won’t be a great horse, he won’t be a classic winning horse,
    I do the majority of my studying through race recordings, watching reruns over and over again because you learn more from watching horses than you do reading about them,
    I look at the build of a horse, I look at how they run, their action and the horse that stood out was Churchill,
    There are some nicely bred horses in this race but none are bred as well as Churchill,
    Cunco won on debut but his race wasn’t as strong as Churchill’s race which was a strong maiden,
    although only coming third on debut there was a lot to like about Churchill who raced keen and to be honest he looked like he was going to be nearer last than first, but at the furlong pole he realised what he was meant to do and that last furlong was impressive,
    Connections of Churchill have been saying a lot of good things about him after his Curragh run, including this horse being their second best chance of a winner at Ascot and with Order of St George being their best chance of a winner.

    I can’t always be right but whatever happens on Saturday win or lose, Churchill will be Coolmores number one horse for classic glory next year, in my opinion

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      bigpika 5 months ago

      Do you have another 1000 guineas horse, since promise to be true isn’t in it?

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      elvis parsley 5 months ago

      Prophetic words John.
      As they say the value has long gone.
      Hoping he gets hammered down to 4-6 8-13 Ish, then look for some each way value.

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    5 months ago

    Meteor light wins off to a good start got 5/1 finished 7/2

    best of luck with your bets guys

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    5 months ago

    get in Singyoursong 4/1

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    peter daryll 5 months ago

    Can’t actually believe that. La casa tarifa walking out of the stalls , surrendered 15 lengths straight away. Really sums up my fortunes at the moment , sorry anyone who got on

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      alanm 5 months ago

      Peter onwards to the next as they say chin up.

      fivebarone cheers and well done you GL with the others

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      Mr Fixit 5 months ago

      Wasn’t on but was in the bookies with the dug when that race was on.
      A few disbelieving punters in the shop who had backed it.

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        juicin 5 months ago

        Why I don’t touch too short a horse anymore, I used to almost start to think it can’t lose, found the risk isn’t usually worth the reward either, and as we know horse racing isn’t straightforward, lots of inside knowledge the punter isn’t privy too, bol 2moro.

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    5 months ago

    alanm great nap

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      elvis parsley 5 months ago

      Alan m.
      I stole yours and tipsultans naps today, 2 singles 2x£20 and double £10 as I am working all week and no time to study.
      Bookies didn’t have odds 1st thing so its so only.
      Already £25 up thanks to you, cheers.

      Sultans nap won easy yesterday so sticking with form tippers.
      Sarangoo 7-1 at the mo so will be buzzing if it wins.

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    juicin 5 months ago

    Cracking alan, fancied both of yours, not enough minerals to tip your nb though, well played. Top stuff from 5barone, if John’s nap won I’d have a nice 4/4 l15, onwards.

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    5 months ago

    alanm again nice double

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      elvis parsley 5 months ago

      Alan, your points now in the + catagory.
      And what do points make ?
      £££££££££££££££
      Top tipping sir.

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    alanm 5 months ago

    Cheers guys 30pts profit onwards we go.

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    5 months ago

    Wahiba puts the icing on a great day 5/1 4/1 7/2 winners from my five 10.5 points up today to 1 point stakes.

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    alanm 5 months ago

    Fivebarone nice work well done.

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    Johnb 5 months ago

    May 7pts down

    Wednesdays Tip

    Ascot
    4:20
    Mondialiste 7/2 NAP/NB paddy power (double stake)

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    duncanpoundcake 5 months ago

    Well Done all winners , Derby entry Across Dubai 8/13 beaten by a 16/1 shot who was a n/r 5 days ago ( bad scope) what chance have we got.

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    juicin 5 months ago

    Top day for alan and 5barone, todays summary:
    I decided to place my biggest bet so far (3pts) on my sole single today and luckily no finger nails even came close to being lost, we even got a little drift and collected a nice 12pt profit.

    Once again the multiple didn’t reap rewards as I put together a combo that saw only one 11/4 winner. Frap has now been wiped from my chalkboard completely. Desert Explorer may be worth another go whilst baby gal could go better if over shorter next time out. Result -2.25pts.

    Overall we recouped nearly 9.75pts and end the day -13.57 overall since 19/4/17.

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    jimron12 5 months ago

    Shame the nb decided to give everyone a massive head start NAp won which is the main thing keeping up the profits ….

    Anyone in the ascot area had much rain today one has caught my eye these little storms that pop up are producing a lot of rain last few days…

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