Mar 5: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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FRIDAY was Johnb day as he landed a magnificent 255-1 treble.

A day to remember started with Mystifiable at 7-2 followed an hour or so later by Get Involved at 8-1.

And then it came down one of his favourite jockeys on his Nap Wolowitz. And it was never in doubt as Graham Gibbons guide his ride home at 10-3.

Johnb says the advised treble was available at up to 255-1 and he also did doubles and of course three singles.

There was a 10p rule 4 on Get Involved so it was a 149.03 point profit on the day. He is now 147.53 points up for March.

He has two tips for Saturday including a Nap he fancies strongly

Johnb’s Saturday Tips

Lingfield 1.55
Midtech Star 11-4 NAP/NB racebets (double stake)

Newbury
2.15
Same Difference 7-1 racebets

Double 29-1 racebets

March Profit

+147.53pts

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  1. Profile photo of Johnb
    Johnb 9 months ago

    Bit better today with a 255/1 treble but it’s only one day, now on to Saturday
    There was a 10p rule 4 on Get Involved so it was a 149.03 point profit today
    March 147.53 points up

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    kendog 9 months ago

    Super stuff JohnB and AlanM, past month has seen some quality from the regulars here. Appreciated by those like me who havent a clue but enjoy it for fun!

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    alextosh 9 months ago

    brill always on the tips happy man now drunk

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Toon river
    Lucky Jim
    Sego success

    My three for tomo ew treble

    Tad drunk will post times tomo!!!

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    alanm 9 months ago

    NAP Fast Track 3/1 3.40 Lingfield
    NB Kuanyao 10/1 4.50 Lingfield
    They’re off and running Trending 4/1 1.55 Lingfield GL
    I See johnb has one in off and running race alternative pick can be Tiger O’Toole 1.45 Newbury more so if money comes for it in morning. Onwards and upwards and the big winners today keep them winnings and enjoy :)

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    duncanpoundcake 9 months ago

    2.55 Meydan ,Watershed 11/2,,can see why johnb puts up Same Difference 7lbs lower than when winning the Kim Muir but I’ll stick with Relax GL.

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    Bit of info for Cheltenham
    In the 2:50 Newbury Saint Charles has to win to get into the Martin Pipe Conditional or the Coral Cup at the Festival

    Been waiting ages for a bookie to give even money for a horse but it’s not coming, the Mares Novice Hurdle at Cheltenham will be won by LIMINI, banker of the meeting but only a best price of 10/11 with racebets

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    double carpet 9 months ago

    Put my selections on yesterday’s thread but one that has seen plenty of money is SEE DOUBLE YOU 5.00 Kelso. Opened 10/1. 15/2 still available at WH but what I believe to be a good indicator is that both pp and boyles are 7/2. The horse has had 3 previous runs across the pond and has a record of 121 and is on a very fair mark with jockey taking a further 7lbs off.
    Very interesting

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    gengar 9 months ago

    anyone got a pick for supreme novice hurdle at 1:30 ?

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    thebz 9 months ago

    Lingfield 4:15
    ABE LINCOLN 4/1 NAP *****

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    gengar 9 months ago

    4:35 Royal Guardsman 7/1 nap
    2:05 Shrewd 2/1 nb
    4:15 Race Day 4/1 nnb
    2:30 Lunar Deity 3/1

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    9 months ago

    Hi everyone

    couldnt get on yesterday sat in a hospital with no signal

    So first of all big well done to johnb great treble ( but why on the only day i couldnt get a bet on think its called sods law)

    L 2.30 FORCEFUL APPEAL 7/2

    L 3.40 ROYAL BIRTH 11/4

    L 4.50 NOVABRIDGE 9/4 NB

    L 5.25 HOPE YOU DANCE 9/4 NAP

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    spooky 9 months ago

    Kelso off

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    dougiec 9 months ago

    That will be because of Many Clouds spooky

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    duncanpoundcake 9 months ago

    Relax 2.15 ,2nd last year off the same mark ,looks like a plot
    Lacan 2.30,New trainer ,trainer/jockey combo over 25% strike rate
    Watershed 2.55 ,up in trip staying on well lto
    Hopefully some e/w value in all 3 GL.

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    dougiec 9 months ago

    Morning all three to avoid today.
    Nap..Zeroshadesofgrey..2.35.. Doncaster
    Nb….Yes I Did…3.10 Doncaster and with Greatrex record at Stratford
    Off and running
    For Goodness Sake..2.20 Stratford
    Gl

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    mig 9 months ago

    Morning all,

    As much as I always lose money on saturdays racing theres alot of quality racing this afternoon but i’ll just be watching most of it.

    Taking a chance on tutu nguru in the 4.15 lingfield ew at 16s

    one other that looks interesting is pythagore in the 3.25 newbury but i think i just prefer sametegal at 13/2

    Not posted or bet on the horses in a while but been having a look over the thread and it has been on fire well done to the usual suspects and jb for the big treble yesterday

    good luck all

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    biggee 9 months ago

    Absolutely brilliant day yesterday bashing the bookies let’s hope for more of the same. A cautious approach tho on a usually tough saturday. As well as johnb’s picks I’ve also done Abe Lincoln backed last night at 4/1 not putting it up as a selection tho as it’s not my own pick.

    My Nap is Pearls Legend 2.00 Doncaster @3/1 bog
    My NB is Off The Ground 3.25 Newbury @20/1 bog each way

    Gd luck today and a big thank you again for yesterday.

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    I see the morning line presenters have been as useless as ever, you have the bha chief exec on the show and yes the levy system change is good for racing as a whole but why haven’t they asked him the questions for the punters
    Once again the punters are being treated like something on the sole of a shoe, again punters are being treated like mugs
    Why haven’t they asked him what the bha are going to do now about the disgraceful sp system that we have in this country which is fundamentally flawed

    Lord Donoughue and his sprc (starting price regulatory commission) has stabbed punters in the back
    He says the nations punters are not in rebellion,
    Well this one is

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      Johnb 9 months ago

      Bettors Forum labels SP report as ‘disingenuous’

      THE HORSERACING BETTORS FORUM has reacted with dismay to a report into the controversy surrounding last year’s Grand National prices but Lord Donoughue has argued the nation’s punters are “not in rebellion” over the SP system.

      The Starting Price Regulatory Commission (SPRC), which Donoughue chairs, argued the current system “does what it says on the tin” and remains the method by which most punters continue to bet on racing.

      Despite the furore surrounding last year’s Grand National SPs, when an overround of 165 per cent was returned, only 15 responses to the consultation leading to the report were received – seven from individuals and a further eight from groups involved with racing or bookmaking.

      However, the Horseracing Bettors Forum (HBF) claims that number is not an accurate reflection of the number of unhappy punters, as their own response sought to represent the interests of millions.

      Donoughue, however, argued the response further demonstrates the acceptance by punters of the SP system, with around three quarters of all slips in betting shops also settled at SP.

      ‘Punters not in rebellion’

      “Some people were saying the SP was finished, so it was an opportunity for us to have a fresh look at it,” said Lord Donoughue.

      “We took into account the responses and have now published our consultation. People can read it and make of it what they will but [the lack of responses] did suggest the nation’s punters are not in rebellion.”

      The report argues the current system still “represents a fair balance between the interests of punters and bookmakers” and also pointed out that the per-runner overround of 1.67 per cent for last year’s Grand National was not out of line with the three-year average of 1.7 per cent for all races.

      “It’s always interesting to go and look at the actual facts and they show that last year’s Grand National was not as out of line as one or two people were suggesting,” said Lord Donoughue.

      ‘Disingenuous’

      However, Simon Rowlands, speaking on behalf of the HBF, disputed the use of the overround per runner figure.

      “The SPRC’s citing of overrounds per runner in the Grand National is disingenuous. As has been proved, including to the SPRC itself, overrounds per runner are highly correlated with field size: when you get larger fields you should expect smaller overrounds per runner,” Rowlands said.

      “Comparing the over-rounds-per-runner on a 39-runner race already described as unique with British races in general, for which average field sizes are much smaller, reflects poorly on the authors.”

      Rowlands also questioned the neutrality of the SPRC’s process, adding: “It can be wondered whether the consultation process itself was valid when the body responsible for it declared at the outset what a good thing the existing system was.

      “That was unlikely to encourage anyone considering making a submission to expect a fair hearing for alternatives.

      “HBF hopes that this report acts as a catalyst to British racing to push for more credible and comprehensive administration of the betting environment than exists at present.”

      Improvements recommended

      The SPRC’s report did recommend a number of improvements that could be made to the SP system, including the increase of the sample size to include on-course satellite betting rings and a more widespread displaying of overrounds on racecourses.

      Any widening of the sample size would but supported by the HBF, although Rowland’s statement made clear the group is against the inclusion of satellite rings.

      Lord Donoughue said the SPRC remain open to suggestions that could improve the SP system but said: “The SP system is treated by the average punter as the standard bet and while nearly three quarters of betting slips use it, we regard that as the market test.”

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    lucky luciano 9 months ago

    Sun racing pullout front page vic pend getting a new tattoo, what’s going on at all…… Gordon Elliot got it spot on, Cheltenham shouldn’t be turned into a sideshow….

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    the notorious 9 months ago

    John, I just get the feeling that like FIFA, the only thing that matters to the BHA is lining their own pockets and jobs for the boys.
    http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/sep/20/bha-nick-rust-deficit-paul-bittar-accounts-horse-racing

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    mig 9 months ago

    Just noticed racebets have nicholls to win the 3.25 newbury with either art masquerade or samteagal at 3/1

    Worth a cheeky fiver i think

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    thehawk 9 months ago

    Tracker horse today down in class ew chance Forest Bihan 12/1 2.50 Newbury. Same as yesterday for thread be good :)

    Good Luck Folks

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Tracker horse 2.45 haymount 7/4 I’m smashing it today!!!

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    dragoon 9 months ago

    Hi, what a good day yesterday, Thank you all for the wins.
    I’m new to this can some one tell me I keep seeing “off and running race” what is this?

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      jimron12 9 months ago

      First race of the day

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      pablo0110 9 months ago

      Dragoon it is something some of the guys do, they put up a selection in one of the first races of the day to try and get us off to a winning start to the day…….AlanM has been particularly successful in this method for awhile now

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        dragoon 9 months ago

        Thanks all. Does anyone Know Johnb’s off and running race tip?

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          rale 9 months ago

          He doesn’t do that.

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            dragoon 9 months ago

            @rale

            I was just reading what Alanm said “I See johnb has one in off and running race alternative pick can be Tiger O’Toole 1.45 Newbury more so if money comes for it in morning”

            Has Hohnb got a selection for that race. I’m trying that race today so just trying to find all tips on it.

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              craig2t 9 months ago

              His NAP is in that race. Not an off and running tip which Alanm puts up.

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                dragoon 9 months ago

                @craig2t

                Whats his Nap? I thought his Nap is Lingfield 1.55
                Midtech Star 11-4 NAP/NB racebets (double stake)

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                  craig2t 9 months ago

                  Yes it is but it’s the FIRST race and coincides with Johns nap. alanm puts in a taster to get us ( hopefully) of to a flyer which he calls his off and running bet ie FIRST race of the day.

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                  Johnb 9 months ago

                  dragoon not got one in that race but if I had to pick one it would OLOFI at 6/1

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    ew thief 9 months ago

    Morning all top draw yesterday johnb alanm rookie elvis dc and apologies if a missed anybody great tipping lads
    OLOFI 1.45N
    PETE THE FEAT 2.15N
    LACAN 2.30L
    BENNYS MIST 3.25N
    JOLLY RED JEANZ 4.50L
    GL ALL

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    spurs55 9 months ago

    good luck today everyone

    don’t give it all back..

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    9 months ago

    Afternoon all

    john great treble yesterday

    Doncaster

    15.45 SEGO SUCCESS ..9/2 .. *

    Stratford

    14.55 PERFECT SUMMER .. 2/1 .. **

    16.05 BONNETS VINO .. 9/2.. *** NB ***

    16.40 THINGERLICHT .. 6/4 .. *** NAP ***

    gl all

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    de niro 9 months ago

    Lingfiled 13-55
    Midtech Star 100/30 bet fred/ bet 365

    Newbury 2-15
    Shotavodka 8/1 bet 365 / william hill NAP

    Newbury 2-50
    Gabrial the Great 11/1 bet 365/william hill NB

    Saint Charles
    Gabrial the Great r/forecast

    Lingfield 15-40
    Taajub 14/1 william hill/bet 365

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    theamazingfrankel 9 months ago

    NAP: The last Samuri 11/4 – Doncaster 3.45
    NB: Masters Hill 11/1 E/w -Newbury 2.15

    GL all

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    wn 9 months ago

    awesome jb

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    alanm 9 months ago

    Well done Johnb not on it today but onwards we go

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    biggee 9 months ago

    Aviiiiit! Johnb….. Genius!!! ere we go again :)

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    alanm 9 months ago

    Also DeNiro well done

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    duncanpoundcake 9 months ago

    Away we go again Thanks and Well Done Johnb/DeNiro.

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    dragoon 9 months ago

    Nice one Johnb for the Nap.

    Also got it on with Alanm Nap as a double.

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    ew thief 9 months ago

    Great start john & deniro

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    dougiec 9 months ago

    Nice start De Niro and Jb with another Nap/Nb great stuff

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    theamazingfrankel 9 months ago

    NB, Masters hill 11/1 each way place :) Well done Deniro

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    pathetic excuse for a jockey Gavin Sheehan slowing Same Difference up into every flight and not letting the horse jump

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    dougiec 9 months ago

    Some Nap De Niro for a horse not won since 2014 but a great tip for the thread I cant even get a pickle out the jar!! Well done

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    ew thief 9 months ago

    Quality deniro as usual

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    the notorious 9 months ago

    John, i watched the race on C4 and it was a shocking ride from Sheehan.

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    dougiec 9 months ago

    See a number of tips for Sheehan with Royal Guardsman,and the Greatrex/combination for me with Boundry,stil lhave to agree not one of hisbetter displays

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    You can usually tell if a horse is up for it at an early stage, Same Difference after jumping the first I was waiting to collect then Sheehan knowing it was a good jump has decided to take a pull at ever fence after that
    Not meant to win today and in that aspect Sheehan has done his job

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Boom 2.45 wins 13/8 went silly on that bet but was super confident

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    alanm 9 months ago

    DeNiro great Nap mate well done

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    duncanpoundcake 9 months ago

    Luke tell your mate Well Done, Unbelievable !!

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      luke a 9 months ago

      He was awesome this afternoon. Hopefully follows it up against Kellett tonight. Crazy to think he was going to go this weekend due to lack of money. But he won 450 at tourney last weekend luckily. He’s got 5k guaranteed so far in UK open. Fingers crossed even more to come

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Just need sego for another amazing day!!!

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    double carpet 9 months ago

    Well done Johnb De Niro and jimron

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    alanm 9 months ago

    Jimron well done mate

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    the notorious 9 months ago

    John, how did Victoria get on?

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Come on de niro in the next 😉

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    spurs55 9 months ago

    did you just see that Tryster????

    woweeeee that was fast

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    mig 9 months ago

    Glad to see sametegal win at 7s plus the fiver at 3/1 on racebet special :)

    good winners today well done johnb deniro shotofvodka ran a great race lots of drama on a saturday just glad to be in profit!

    Gl for those left to run

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    spurs55 9 months ago

    well done amazing franklel..eazzie pezzie

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    theamazingfrankel 9 months ago

    NAP 11/4 winner! :)

    NB 11/1 e/w place :)

    Brilliant Saturday, I’m off for a few pints me thinks.

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    jimron12 9 months ago

    Boooom toon river!!!

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    alanm 9 months ago

    NAP UP EARLY GREAT PRICE Freeway Space 5/1 5.10 Naas GL

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    Johnb 9 months ago

    3.5 point profit today thanks to double stake Midtech Star
    March 150.03 points up

    Sunday’s Tips

    Huntingdon
    3:30
    Ballyrath 9/4 NAP racebets

    Sedgefield
    4:50
    Treliver Manor 7/4 NB racebets

    Double 8.94/1 racebets

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