June 21: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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IT’S day two of Royal Ascot and Johnb’s most fancied horse of the meeting runs in the Royal Hunt Cup.

Our man drew a blank on day one and is hoping for better with his ante-post pick El VIP leading the way.

Well done all who posted a winner at Ascot and beyond and let’s hear all your Wednesday picks and chat.

Johnb’s Wednesday Tips

Ascot 4:20
Ulysses 7-2 william hill

5:00
El pVip 8-1 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

Chelmsford 8:10
Mazzini 9-2 bet365

Also 3x 0.5pt doubles & 1x 0.5pt treble bet365 odds 10-3 8-1 9-2

Royal Ascot Day Two

2:30 – Glastonbury Song 25-1
3:05 – Happy Like A Fool 5-4
3:40 – Smart Call 8-1
4:20 – Ulysses 7-2
5:00 – El Vip 8-1
5:35 – Sibilance 10-1

Johnb’s Antepost Tips

2018
1000 Guineas
Clemmie 25-1 bet365

Royal Hunt Cup
Wednesday, June 21
Royal Ascot

EL VIP 16-1 bet365

It’s time for one of my Ten to Follow horses and a horse I said we would get a right touch with in a handicap and this could be it with him on a low mark like this. Please be aware though that El VIP has not currently made the cut for the race but by next week he should have. It’s not NRNB (non runner no bet) so don’t bet if you don’t want to lose your stake without a run. It doesn’t bother me because I know my antepost long term works so I am willing to take the chance.

This was my write up in my Ten to Follow post:

EL VIP (IRE) 4yo bay colt Breeding: Pivotal (UK) – Elle Danzig (GER). Trainer: Luca Cumani. Owner: Al Shaqab Racing.

Rated 94 means we are going to get a right touch on this horse in a handicap. He is far better class and I can see many wins for this horse, I think he will prove that 1m 2f & 1m 4f will be his distances. Last time out he won over 1m, he wasn’t too good away and needed a bit of early encouragement, he was always at the back but it was inside the last furlong that he proved he wants farther by running away from his rivals at the end. It was an outstanding performance as the only 3yo in the race to outbattle more experienced rivals and he is guaranteed to improve, an exciting prospect this season.

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67 Comments
  1. Profile photo of Johnb
    Johnb 1 month ago

    Day 1 of Royal Ascot wasn’t the best, it was good to see Lancaster Bomber run well as I have said a few times that I do like the horse, the distance between him and Barney Roy suggests that Barney Roy hasn’t improved too much since the 2000 Guineas but Churchill seriously underperformed but it doesn’t take an expert to see that, with the run also of Declarationofpeace in the last being so bad the spotlight has to go on the Aidan O’Brien yard and wonder if there is a problem there, the run of Lancaster Bomber says no but Churchill and Declarationofpeace were to bad to be true and it will be interesting to see how Highland Reel and Winter get on and of course Clemmie

    Royal Ascot Day 2
    2:30 – Glastonbury Song 25/1
    3:05 – Happy Like A Fool 5/4
    3:40 – Smart Call 8/1
    4:20 – Ulysses 7/2
    5:00 – El Vip 8/1
    5:35 – Sibilance 10/1

    Wednesdays Main Tips

    Ascot
    4:20
    Ulysses 7/2 william hill

    5:00
    El Vip 8/1 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

    Chelmsford
    8:10
    Mazzini 9/2 bet365

    Also 3x 0.5pt doubles & 1x 0.5pt treble bet365 odds 10/3 8/1 9/2

    Not surprising to see El Vip as my main bet for Wednesday as i have already advised this horse a few times antepost
    We already have
    1pt each way at 16/1
    1pt each way at 14/1
    0.5pt double at 3/1 & 14/1
    The 3/1 bet won so that means we have 2pts going on at 14/1
    Today I am also advising 2pts at 8/1 and you can see we have definitely got the value, my Ten to Follow write up for El Vip is on the header, I never thought I would ever say this but with Jamie Spencer onboard again it’s probably a decent booking as El Vip is better when playing the waiting tactics and as we know Spencer loves to sit at the back, the word is Jamie Spencer has got off Banksea to ride this horse and when I advised El Vip antepost Banksea was the shorter priced and more fancied of the stablemates,
    I have never advised backing a horse as much as I have this one which should show how confident I am, we will of course need some luck as Spencer looks to go from last to first but as El Vip has shown he has a good turn of foot which is crucial when going for the gaps
    Racing Club members are looking at a big payday if El Vip can win and hopefully some on here are as well

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      wn 1 month ago

      2 days ago you said Jack Hobbs, now your saying Ulysses?

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    jazzerbhoy 1 month ago

    Daban 6/1 2.30 nap
    Happy like a fool 5/4 3.05
    JohnB Elvip 8/1 5.0.
    Good Luck everyone.

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    azzthewigan 1 month ago

    whitecliffsofdover 2.30 decorated knight 4.20 fastnet tempest 5.00 drumfad bay 5.35 ew l15 ew singles laugh aloud 3.40 win single heartache 3.05 win single well done all winners yesterday

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    azzthewigan 1 month ago

    laugh aloud nr 3.40 changed it to qemah 3.40

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    billy boy 1 month ago

    Ground to fast for El VIP IMO all its form is on good also that fast ground does not suit hold up horses.
    Cumanis other horse for me Banksea.
    But best of luck Johnb by god you certainly need it to win.
    It’s Ttebbob all over

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    fivebarone 1 month ago

    Well done yesterdays winners.

    Great day myself with 10/1 and 8/1 Winners plus a non runner so + 9 on the day.

    Avoiding Ascot again for betting purposes but will enjoy watching.

    3.20 .Hamilton . Cosmic Chatter .. 5/1
    3.55 .Hamilton . Breanski .. 13/8
    5.10 .Hamilton . Bonnie Gals .. 7/1 … 0.5 E/W

    3.30 .Uttoxeter . King Muro .. 11/8
    4.45 .Uttoxeter . Terry The Fish .. 9/4

    Now + 65.7 points up after 41 days to just one point stakes

    Best of luck with your bets today guys

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    tipsultan 1 month ago

    Ascot
    2.30- Dream Castle- 4/1 – 2 points
    4.20- Jack Hobbs- 10/3- 2 points

    1 point single

    Good Luck all
    June: +2.55 points

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    jimba 1 month ago

    On el vip e/w already and with 5barone on bonnie gals [email protected] Enjoy the racing & GL🍀

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    double carpet 1 month ago

    Ascot Day 2

    2.30 LE BRIVIDO
    3.05 HAPPY LIKE A FOOL
    3.40 QEMAH
    4.20 HIGHLAND REEL
    5.00 EL VIP / EARLY MORNING 33/1 EW
    5.35 DRUMFAD BAY 16/1 EW

    BOL

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    de niro 1 month ago

    Nothing from me today seems a tricky day indeed

    April plus 100
    May plus 73
    June plus 109

    Have a safe and enjoyable trip alanm thread will be severely weekened without you.

    My own bets going forward
    (Won’t count for points as sport mixed in)

    Big well done all the winners yesterday and good luck for today and the rest of the week

    I’ll be sitting out the week cheering on cilic who I have at 7/1 in a single also to win.
    😀

    Order of St George (thurs) Evs
    Portugal to beat Russia Evs
    Cilic to win atp Queens tennis 100/30

    Pays just over 16/1

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    duncanpoundcake 1 month ago

    Zhui Feng 5.00
    Colour Contrast 5.10 GL

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    ew thief 1 month ago

    Morning all well done DN DC JIMRON FIVEBARONE DANC JIMBA TIPSULTAN and all other winners sorry if a missed anyone
    Mubtasim 2.30 25/1
    Heartache 3.05 6/1
    Turret rocks 3.40 20/1
    Queens trust 4.20 10/1
    Zhui feng 5.00 28/1
    Prosper 5.35 20/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky63 ☘️Gl all

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    theplug 1 month ago

    last nights thread i posted 5 for wexford my local track hopefully i will have a few winners ,some for royal ascot.
    dream castle 4/1
    happy like a fool 1/1
    usherette 4/1 nb
    highland reel 9/4 nap
    abe lincoln 10/1
    gymnaste 5/1
    gl to all

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    jimron12 1 month ago

    Daban
    Highland reel
    Happy like a fool
    Gymnaste

    My lucky 15 today had a good day yesterday on course was very hot but lady Aurelia going out at 4 is went in big time and there was never any doubt 👍👍 £32 a jug of pimms though 👎

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    busstop2017 1 month ago

    Afternoon all Just read yesterdays thread some nice winners d NERO ,fivebarone, dc ,jimron and more .

    Wife persuaded me buy some new garden chairs yesterday as the weather was so hot.Today it p***es down and its my fault how does that work.

    UTTOXETER

    14.55 — WILLYEGOLASSIEGO — 5/2

    16.45 — CRAIG STAR — 11/2

    17.20 — BRONCOS BILLY — 5/2

    17.55 — LIME STREET — 13/8

    gl all

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    busstop2017 1 month ago

    D nero .Something with your name every time i use it my post dosent work .

    so apologies for the miss spelling

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    Johnb 1 month ago

    Tennis
    ATP Halle

    Grigor Dimitrov v Julien Benneteau

    JULIEN BENNETEAU to win a set 11/10 NAP/NB betvictor (double stake)

    JULIEN BENNETEAU to win 17/5 Marathonbet

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    Johnb 1 month ago

    billy boy there is so much wrong with what you have said about the course and the horse
    The horse has been effective on fast ground with the action suggesting its fine
    The course which is a stiff course actually favours hold up horses even on fast ground and the Royal Hunt Cup is always run too fast, today will be no different so will suit El Vip and to use Ttebbob as an example with so many big priced winners is funny
    But hey I got the antepost value yet again because I spot value and talent long before anyone else can

    Also nice to see you take my advice and pick Cumani’s other horse Banksea who I highlighted a couple of years ago as a horse with a good future and big race wins in him

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    Johnb 1 month ago

    For anyone wondering why I have done a detour from Jack Hobbs to Ulysses, it’s simply down to the conditions

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    Johnb 1 month ago

    The only thing we need to know about Happy Like A Fool is that Wesley Ward always sends his best horses to Keeneland for their debut
    Also she does look good compared to the the others in physically

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    jimba 1 month ago

    ewthief hats off to you, Superb tipping @ ascot bud👏

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    theplug 1 month ago

    get in there moore what a race

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    gengar 1 month ago

    praying on el vip now for a 4 fold and a lovley grand and a half just praying youve found anther diamond JB fingers crossed

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    double carpet 1 month ago

    C’mon EL VIP

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    gengar 1 month ago

    well that didnt go to plan lol oh well still on for 4 grand if harrys angel or carravigio win and winter and limato wins so still hope lol

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      gengar 1 month ago

      p.s really well done e/w thief some record you have picking out big prices quite incredible mate

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    jamiea1991 1 month ago

    Wasnt to be

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    jimron12 1 month ago

    Never mind poor day today needs to be saved in the lucky last

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    spurs55 1 month ago

    unbelieveable tipping EWT

    we will be millionaires at this rate

    fantastic stuff matey

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    scotty h 1 month ago

    Absolute shocker El vip, had all the room it needed. Worst jockey around in spencer.

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    double carpet 1 month ago

    3 winners today so a good day. Well done to all the other winners some crackers posted
    Onto tomorrow

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    jimba 1 month ago

    Spencer then goes and wins last race 20/1 coming from nowhere!!!

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    alanm 1 month ago

    Ew thief Duncan d/N D/$ great tipping guys keeping the thread real guys well done.

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    billy boy 1 month ago

    Johnb let’s talk about your condescending reply to me without my reply being deleted everything I said was proved right El VIP had no form on fast ground and by the look of it hated the ground didn’t pick up on it I also mentioned fast ground didn’t suit hold up horses you ridiculed my reply and guess what happened not only did it not suit hold up horses the horse that made all the running won the race lol
    Also you mentioned you found the value am afraid there is no value in a horse that finishes nearer last than 1st.
    Sometimes it’s better to say nothing than anything at all.

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      trotters 1 month ago

      U wer right he was rong and its that simple! Seems to b pulling on peoples strings lately i dont get it

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    fivebarone 1 month ago

    Did anyone just watch that race at chelmsford what an absolute disgraceful ride on Graceland .Im not one to normally complain about jockeys but that was just stopped all the way round.The stewards surely will do something watch the replay guys

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    theplug 1 month ago

    just had naughty molly 25/1 ew third in wexford

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    fivebarone 1 month ago

    Horse i put on here yesterday but was a non runner out tonight

    8.40 .Chelmsford . Summerghand . 7/2 usual 1 point win

    2 winners today so decent day

    best of luck

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    duncanpoundcake 1 month ago

    Have a good holiday Alanm .Spain for me too shortly GL.

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      andyeff 1 month ago

      Well done plug on peregrine run, love that horse and finally on good ground.

      Still angry I went on jack Hobbs rather than highland (talked myself out of it) but was on the two frenchies so good day.

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        theplug 1 month ago

        thanks andyeff had naughty molly 25/1 3rd highland reel 9/4 peregrine run so not a bad day still one to go well done to everyone who had winners

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    double carpet 1 month ago

    Ascot Day 3

    Very tough card so am doing some ew bets and a nap

    2.30 SANTRY
    3.05 TAMLEEK
    3.40 NAUGHTY OR NICE NAP
    I’m really interested in the chances of this one today. Doing a bit of maths, has won both starts this season. On his first start he beat BEAN FEASA by 2 1/2L who is rated 102 over 9f. She then beat GRANDEE rated 99 by a head lto over 13f. Grandee came out and won nto beating 107 rated EZIYRA by 2 1/4L giving 4lbs so has more than franked the form. Irish trainers have won 5 of the last 6 runnings and the highest rated in this race is 105 so I think the selection has every chance.
    4.20 SIMPLE VERSE

    BOL

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    duncanpoundcake 1 month ago

    Twin Star 5.35 20/80 GL

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    fivebarone 1 month ago

    Summerghand wins at 7/2 to round off another good day.

    Best of luck if any to run guys

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    jazzerbhoy 1 month ago

    Well done all the winners today.
    Ew thief duncan dc busstop fivebarone and anyone else i have missed sorry.
    Ew thief tipped royal ascot hat to you. 🎩

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    duncanpoundcake 1 month ago

    Well Done all winners today
    Maybe a Luke Morris benefit day at Chelmsford tomorrow GL.

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    jimron12 1 month ago

    Khismet Last race at ffos las 14/1 still think this one has an outside squeak at Cheltenham next year good ground the key been totally over looked as many of the flint horses do and this is the same horse I tipped up at 66/1 not so long ago

    Hoping the better ground does the trick I’m on nap/nb

    Royal ascot

    Santry 7/1 strongest ascot pick 2.30
    Bay of poets 3.05
    Moro 3.40
    Big orange 4.20
    Son of stars 5.00
    Tartini 5.35

    Have a good day all and enjoy the cooler nights 🔥

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    jimron12 1 month ago

    Also havin a go on flint other runner sahalin 66/1 bottom weight 7.40

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