Jan 14: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat


JOHNB is confident of landing his joint nap/NB on Wednesday and making it five out of six this year.

January is a 2.92pt loss but barring a major upset at Meydan our man will be back in the black.

He says: Had to check my stats to make sure this was right and it is. I tipped Cat O’Mountain on this site on January 16, 2014 at 11-4. The odds were available for quite a while but money finally came for him about 20 mins before the race and he won at 6-4.

It was mentioned on the site by others just how easy he won. Cat O’Mountain cruised up to lead 500m out, Barzalona pushed him out for a few strides till he was about eight lengths up and then about 250m from the winning post he eased right down winning by two lengths.

If you haven’t seen the race then I advise you watch it on the link below.


Johnb’s Thursday Tips

Southwell 3.40
Jarir 15-8 bet365, William Hill

Meydan 5.55
Cat O’Mountain 9-4 NAP/NB bet365 (double stake)

Jarir & Cat O’Mountain 8.34-1 bet365

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  1. Profile photo of Johnb
    Johnb 1 year ago

    Cat O’Mountain (NAP/NB)

    It’s good to see him back, an old favourite of mine who came 3rd in the 2014 Dubai World Cup

    Before I started tipping on here we had some good wins with him at Kempton in a couple of class 3 handicaps
    He then went to Meydan where he won on debut but the highlight was his 3rd in the World Cup after being held up near the back and was given far to much to do by Barzalona

    On his last run in October 2014 he won the Group 3 Diamond Stakes at Dundalk when rated 111
    He may have top weight but for a horse of his class he isn’t giving away a lot of weight to his rivals

    It will be hi first run on dirt but this boy is bred for dirt
    but can run on any surface.
    He does have a 468 day absence to overcome but I don’t double stake a horse for the fun of it

    Below is his run in the 2014 Dubai World Cup

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      elvis parsley 1 year ago

      Jarir has diabolical form.
      10th of 13 beaten 11 lengths.
      10th of 17 beaten 9 lengths.
      8th of 11 beaten 12 lengths in a class 5.
      This is a crap race yes, but can you really trust this horse ?.
      Hasn’t shown anything to suggest he is trustworthy

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        nezhambo 1 year ago

        Jarir is making it handicap debut stepped up in trip

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        Johnb 1 year ago

        Looking at finishing positions like that doesn’t tell the real story,
        unless you have a top class horse connections like to bring horses into their racing career gradually, this is done in the maiden races till a horse gets its first handicap mark

        A perfect example of being able to read a horse and not form,
        It’s a coincidence this because I am going back to the same day I tipped Cat O’Mountain on the 16th January 2014

        There was a horse running that day and it’s the only time since I have been on this site, that I have told people to have more than just their level stake,
        My exact words were “because bets like this don’t come along often and it’s as close to a sure thing as you can get”

        The horse in question was RIGHT OF APPEAL
        he was
        7/15 beaten 8 1/2 lengths
        8/9 beaten 14 1/2 lengths
        14/15 beaten 29 lengths

        He had been running in 6f races but I knew through his breeding he wanted 1m 4f
        So on his fourth run I Napped him 2/1 second favourite and he won by 6 lengths
        Everything from distance, surface, handicap mark, trainer form pointed to a win.

        As for Jarir he has been gently eased into racing but there are signs there,
        He is up significantly in distance and this will suit better, he is on a really low handicap mark and he is bred to love the Southwell surface and I even think the favourite won’t like the surface as much as Jarir

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          1 year ago

          Johnb going by the betting Jarir has lost a leg whats Hannon’s record at Southwell from my memory its not a track i see him having many runners or winners.

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            Johnb 1 year ago

            He actually has a decent record

            15 runners
            4 winners
            4 seconds
            2 thirds

            Win percentage 26.67%

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              1 year ago

              Yeh thats pretty decent especially considering he doesnt have alot of runners no wonder i cant mind many winners or runners with only 15 in a year.

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    jimron12 1 year ago

    Scotswell 2.50 Nap 16/1
    Cat o mountain 5.55 (jb)
    Coolnagoorna giggs 3.15 NB 10/1

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    ciaran1988 1 year ago

    3.05 Southwell

    Bring On A Spinner 7/4

    6.40 Chelmsford

    New Stategy 3/1

    January stats
    tips = 8
    Stakes = 8
    Return = 16.33
    Profit = 8.33

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    rale 1 year ago

    Huge gamble on Moonday Sun at 7:10 Chelmsford. Opened at 14/1, now 9/2 fav. Kirby on it.

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    rale 1 year ago

    Yes. Top guy, but try to get his prices. Mission impossible.

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    davyb 1 year ago

    liewellyn 2.0 south
    uno valoroso 1.50 catt
    alto des mottes 2.50 catt
    san Quentin 5.40 ch

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    alanm 1 year ago

    NAP Welliesinthewater 100/30 5.10 Chelmsford
    NB Sandford Castle 5/1 3.25 Catterick
    New idea off and running first race pick 12.30S Harwoods Star 4/1 GL
    Thurles up in morning

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    alanm 1 year ago

    Meydan tomorrow only one trainer for me
    Saeed bin Suroor

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    1 year ago

    Chelmsford 7.40pm bits and pieces of early money for Josephine Gordons mount Black vale i mentioned earlier she has a great strike rate and level stakes profit for Phil McEntee the horse is having its 1st run for him free falling down the handicap’s and its 1st run at Chelmsford its still 20/1 with Lad and PP small EW for me.
    Watch it come last lol

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    gengar 1 year ago

    3:35 promising run 7/4 NAP
    5:55 Cat O mountain 2/1 NB

    1:40 Rory O Moore 14/1 e/w

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    biggee 1 year ago

    Why is it different?

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      Mr Fixit 1 year ago

      biggee, because he’ll be well known to every racing Punter – I suppose he’s a legendary punter.

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    wmgy 1 year ago

    2.00 Southwell
    Curzon Line 12/1

    1.50 Catterick
    Crafty Roberto 13/2

    The 2.50 at Catterick is a race I really like. See a couple of tips on it already but it’s the kind of race that’ll end up with ten different selections on here. At the moment I’m between Silver Tassie, Barton Gift and strangely enough Gorgehous Lliege. One to sleep on I think!

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    Johnb 1 year ago

    Had to check my stats to make sure this was right, and it is
    I tipped Cat O’Mountain on this site on 16th January 2014 at 11/4
    The odds were available for quite a while but money finally came for him about 20 mins before the race, he won at 6/4
    It was mentioned on the site by others just how easy he won,
    Cat O’Mountain cruised up to lead 500m out, Barzalona pushed him out for a few strides till he was about 8 lengths up and then about 250m from the winning post he eased right down, winning by 2 lengths

    If you haven’t seen the race then I advise you watch it on the link below

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      1 year ago

      I think betting will tell us alot tomorrow John if its ready to roll 1st time up on the dirt a handicap is obviously not its aim for the season at Maydan some money coming for the other Godolphin runner and Hunting ground has to be a danger with it already having a run under its belt on the dirt.

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        gengar 1 year ago

        John im With you on this one the other 3 tippers i like to reference with have all selected the same pick the handicapper seems to have been quite generous and has you say this horse is bred for dirt i didn’t get the 9/4 but got on at 2/1 with hill should be easy money the time off doesn’t bother me his trainer has said he beens going well and has said he believes the hosre will be even better on dirt. will be intresting anyway i also backed promising run in the 3.35 got a good feeling the double will come in tommorow so fingers crossed mate.

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    mattcroc 1 year ago

    I finally got my first winner on the thread yesterday with chookie royale.

    Have two I am interested in today both at Southwell both for similar reasons.

    130 great expectations 5/1
    200 Archie’s advice 3/1

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    jimron12 1 year ago

    Nail m been smashed over night in the 2.50!!

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    1 year ago

    Morning everyone

    5/1 winner yesterday so profit on the day..

    S 12.30 HARWOODS STAR 100/30 nb .. bet365

    S 2.00 ARCHIES ADVICE 3/1 nap ..bet365

    couple of odds on that should win but not putting up as tips

    still looking a chelmsford for this evening so might be back

    good luck everyone

    happy days

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    scattercash 1 year ago

    Jaarih 12.30 Southwell. First ever selection I put up was a non runner see how this one goes.

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    linfieldaces 1 year ago

    Satellite 2.20 Catterick 15/8 bet365

    Only horse for me today

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    1 year ago

    Hi all

    Great day yesterday. With a 16/1 win


    13.20. GULLYS EDGE. NAP. 15/8
    13.50. CLOUDY JOKER. NB. 4/1
    14.50. JAC THE LEGEND. EW. 8/1

    Gl all

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      alanm 1 year ago

      Well done Busstop Cloudy Joker

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        1 year ago

        thanks alan 6/1 better than i thought .. shows you always use bookies with bog prices


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          idle days 1 year ago

          Got on Cloudy Joker just before the off purely based on you having it as your NB Busstop, great tipping Thanks!

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    Johnb 1 year ago

    I just want to say well done to Chester Racecourse, the smaller racehorse owners need more help like this,
    I just hope other courses follow

    The biggest appearance money scheme in British racing history is being introduced at Chester with the racecourse on Wednesday committing itself to ensuring the owner of every horse that runs at the track this year will receive at least £400 per outing.

    Chester’s move, which follows hot on the heels of significant prize-money increase announcements for Royal Ascot, is expected to cost the independent racecourse in the region of £250,000 and has been launched, in part, as a proactive bid to attract runners who might otherwise have headed elsewhere.

    No owner will leave a Chester fixture with less than £400 for each horse raced there, with those who earn place money less than the fixed appearance fee set to have their earnings topped up to £400.

    Under BHA appearance money rules, owners will be required to pass on eight per cent to the trainer, six per cent to the yard and a further six per cent to the jockey.

    Had the scheme been in place last year Chester, which in December was named the best large racecourse in Britain at the Racehorse Owners Association’s annual awards, would have been required to pay out £158,165.

    However, the bookmaker-led additional voluntary contributions, last year used by the BHA to provide prize-money for horses who finished unplaced down to as far as eighth, are now moribund, which will lead to Chester handing out £400 payments that would not have been needed in 2015.

    ‘A pretty special offering’

    “We want to be first and we want to lead in the industry,” said Chester clerk of the course Andrew Morris.

    “No other racecourse has ever launched an appearance money scheme across an entire season. You can now bring a horse to Chester, have a great experience and even if you don’t win any prize-money, you know you will get £400. We think that’s a pretty special offering.

    “We feel it’s important to remember that for the majority of connections their horse does not win prize-money. We also know keeping a horse in training is expensive.

    “We want to reward those people who do own a horse and choose to run at Chester. This is an incentive to them.

    “We don’t necessarily feel the success of this scheme will be measured by us seeing a huge percentage increase in the number of runners we have in 2016. However, we obviously do hope as a result of the scheme people will choose to run at Chester as opposed to other venues.

    “We race on a number of Saturdays that are competitive because of other fixtures taking place the same day, all of which are fighting for the same pool of runners. We hope a scheme such as this will push us forward in the eyes of connections and that it will act as a key driver in persuading people to run at Chester.”

    Morris added: “It is impossible to know exactly how much this will cost as we don’t know how many runners we will have. This does, though, represent a significant financial outlay for us and an increase on our current prize-money levels. We would expect the cost to be in the region of £250,000, taking into account what we will lose in additional voluntary contributions previously paid.”

    ROA welcomes move

    ROA president Rachel Hood praised the Chester initiative, saying: “Chester has only recently been announced as the ROA’s large racecourse of the year for its exceptional raceday offering for owners. The introduction of an appearance money scheme for all races in 2016 is another excellent initiative.

    “Owners often incur significant costs when they have a runner, so offering a meaningful payment to offset those charges provides another reason to target races at Chester.

    “The fact is racecourses are competing with each other for runners, and we believe this innovation is exactly the type of thing that will influence owners when making their running plans.”

    Chester regular Marwan Koukash added: “For some time Chester has led the way by providing owners with first-class facilities and hospitality. This new fantastic initiative does go a long way towards covering the costs of racing, and I congratulate them for introducing it to British racing. I will have to start sending more horses to Chester!”

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    alanm 1 year ago

    Thurles 3.15 He Rocks 11/2

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    chilleden 1 year ago

    Great tip Jimron thanks

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    jimron12 1 year ago

    Non runner and NB at 10/1
    Come on John b make it a nice double

    Yankee for tonight

    Cat o mountain 5.55
    Big baz 5.20
    New strategy 6.40
    Gunner moybe 8.10

    Good luck all

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    ciaran1988 1 year ago

    Will update stats after last race.

    Tips for tomoro are

    1.30 Lingfield
    Pacolita 3/1

    3.00 Lingfield
    Super Kid 6/4

    5.15 Wolverhampton
    Pinotage 4/1

    6.15 Wolverhampton
    Believe It 11/4

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    double carpet 1 year ago

    A couple of early ones for tomorrow

    NAP STRATEGIC FORCE 11/4 ladbrokes 6.30 dundalk

    NB LADY FANDANGO 3/1 PP 5.45 wolves

    Best of luck to all

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    Johnb 1 year ago

    Friday’s Tips

    Etaad 10/3 skybet

    Yeah Baby Yeah 15/8 NAP/NB skybet (double stake)

    Etaad & Yeah Baby Yeah 11.46/1 skybet

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    ciaran1988 1 year ago

    2 tips today 1 winner at 7/4

    January stats
    Tips = 10
    Stakes = 10 points
    Returns = 19.08 points
    Profit = 9.08 points

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    therat 1 year ago

    Thanks RALE for pointing out that gamble on MOONDAY SUN

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      champyr 1 year ago

      Saved my day

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      rale 1 year ago

      Thanks Therat. That was tip from the guy I follow on Twitter, whose name we cannot mention here. He is 10x champion of the well known tipster league on Twitter. And his tips are free. Shame we cannot pass his picks here anymore.

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        therat 1 year ago

        I know who you’re talking about mate. You should just post his picks anyway and just pretend they’re yours…thats what a lot of guys on here do anyway!

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    ray_ez 1 year ago

    Thank you to rale for the Moonday Sun pointer.
    The rest of you can suck my balls. Kidding. Well done winners

    Going to have a we EW bet on
    Loud @ 18/1 in the 8:10

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