Jan 12: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    Shocking days racing on Tuesday
    Best bet of the day by far is SPECIAL SEASON in the 2:40 Lingfield but as you know I don’t back odds on even if 4/5 hills & coral should be stealing money

    He really should be 1/4

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    jamesonthemoney 11 months ago

    NAP 2:00 Ludlow
    Take the Mick 5/4
    NB 4:00 Ludlow
    Mac Gregory 7/4

    Lingfield pick
    1:10 Secret Millionaire 2/1

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    ray_ez 11 months ago

    I’m gonna have a pop at
    2:30 LU – One Style – 11/4
    3:30 LU – Market Option -3/1
    3:40 LI – Comedy House – 6/1

    Regards

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    davyb 11 months ago

    kyanyao 1.10 lin
    summer chorus 1.40 lin
    take the mick 2.00 lud
    obboorr 3.40 lin

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    jimron12 11 months ago

    Hmmmmm small double on two short prices tomo and a little ew bet on rock of ages 66/1 2.30

    Terrible racing and getting a lot colder this week not a lot going on betting wise

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    11 months ago

    Terrible racing today and tomorrow the amount of comments today tells you how bad it was Kempton has to be the worst all weather track for handicaps they finish in a heap all the time and you would get a different result every time.
    Colder weather from tomorrow night onwards as you say jimron time of the year for the jumpers bumpers to start lol.
    Stevie

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      elvis parsley 11 months ago

      Stevie
      Surely if they finish in a heap, this indicates that the handicapper has done his job.

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        11 months ago

        Hiya elvis exactly and that makes it so hard to get the winner. Its more the fact IMO at Kempton if you run the same handicap of the same marks youl get a different winner most of the time you get so many hold up horses waiting on that cut away it turns into mad sprints.
        1 race that kind off went to form yesterday was Exalted but most of that was down to it being the only front runner which meant it got a soft lead.
        I take my hat of to anybody finding winners round that track its just not for me.

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    rookie 11 months ago

    Thrre are only a couple standing out for tomorrow
    15.40 Ling Percella 3/1
    Think there may be value in
    14.30 Lud Allstar vinnie 12/1

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    dougiec 11 months ago

    Might just throw something at Handpicked 4.00 Ludlow getting lumps of weight from the first two in the betting,given the expected conditions.6/1 with PP
    GL

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    alanm 11 months ago

    NAP Hombre Rojo 5/1 2.40 Lingfield
    NB Kuanyao 4/1 1.10 Lingfield

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      davisam 11 months ago

      Well done @alanm I wasn’t on anything today but a big well done on that one, great call and great price. Gd stuff from JB too, NAP/NB certainly seems to have picked up since I stopped following it!

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      11 months ago

      Superb NAP alanm a’m cursing myself big style after Johnb’s statement last night using words like buying money and 4/5 shot should be a 1/4 shot my eyes lit up so i went through the race with a fine tooth pic came to the conclusion that Special season didnt run near 100 last time and Hombre Rojo was an improver due to go up around 10 pounds so there wasnt that much between them in the ratings making 6/1 a bet certainly no 1/4 shot in the race THEN Haggis came on ATR on the line program talking about it going to Maydan so i left it but also couldnt back Haggis odds on hes like Mark Johnston seems to get alot beat.
      So massive well done for sticking to your guns also some other great tips on here today hammer the bookies.

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    biggee 11 months ago

    Only one bet today 3.40 Lingfield.. Ruzeiz @5/1 bog is expected to go well. Gd luck

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    meydan 11 months ago

    Well done to anyone landing winners yesterday.

    3 today, blanks for me yesterday

    Lud 2:00 Still Believing Nap 5/2
    Lin 3:10 Happy Jack Nb 8/1
    Lin 2:10 Silca Wings EW 12/1

    Jan -3.6 pts to 1pt level stake

    Best of luck.

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Finally got a nice winner yesterday at 6/1 so let’s see if I can build on that.

    Lud 3.00 fishing bridge 6/1

    Not much else to go on but I’ll see if I can get a stupid £1 Acca going.

    GL all

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    wullieboy 11 months ago

    More spice 1.10 L. Summer chorus 1.40 L. Handpicked 4.00 Lu

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    alanm would be good for people to know why you have Hombre Rojo as your Nap today,

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      rale 11 months ago

      That’s bit cheeky to ask, considering that you put Nap/NB without a word of reasoning.

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        Johnb 11 months ago

        And you should know I can put reasoning up,
        It’s not cheeky it’s asking about a horse that is 23lb out on official ratings and about 16lb out on the ratings I do which allows for a little improvement

        It’s not having a go at alanm it’s stating an obvious question that others should have asked and I can’t believe Rale you don’t want to know why a horse rated 77 can beat a horse rated 100 off level weights, a horse off 100 that has been running in far better races, a horse off 100 that in most races has been running to a level of between 95-103 for most of his races, a horse rated 100 that wasn’t far behind Iban Malik,

        There are lots of pointers in this race through other horses and not one of them is in favour of Hombre Rojo although I do think the horse is better than his rating of 77 as I think more of 87 but that’s taking into account the improvement I think the horse has

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          alanm 11 months ago

          Better races on the flat not the AW total prize money is £5000 and has also been beaten twice Fav with Pat Cosgrave on board once odds on @ 8/13

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            Johnb 11 months ago

            I am getting confused here, maybe I am missing something but where in the form does it say Rojo has been running in better races on the all-weather?

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          rale 11 months ago

          JohnB it was just a small dig at you for not putting reasoning up, even that I know that you can. For people who doesn’t follow you blindly it would be very helpful.
          I am interested why AlanM went against both, Sam Turner and Track Bias Diary at GG’s in the first at Lingfield, considering that he uses them for references for his picks. TBD reasoning about first time visors for R Cowell’s 5f runners was spot on and swayed me to back More Spices. His last 5 runners with first time visor have won 5f races. It shows why that kind of info is so useful. If I didn’t read that I would never back that horse.
          All the best.

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            alanm 11 months ago

            Rale yes did miss it as already had my picks up early but glad you got it your learning fast.

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              rale 11 months ago

              Haha, I am trying to, mate. Had nice double from Sam (Percela) and TBD.

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      champyr 11 months ago

      Whatever the reason money is coming in for it.

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    11 months ago

    Morning everyone poor day for me yesterday and theres not a lot to say about todays offerings so just one bet for me.

    L 1.10 SECRET MILLIONAIRE 13/8 C/D winner 3 times ran well last friday and mark coming down.

    Good luck everyone

    Happy days

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    ryzo 11 months ago

    Slim pickings today but I’ve gone for;

    1.10 Kuanyao
    3.10 Fast Approach
    3.30 Rainbow Haze

    Good luck everyone.

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Agree with you boz. Good to see Morris back up as well. He tends to get good runs out of this horse. I’m hoping more spice is supported and pushes the price out a little as 7/4 isn’t that great in a race that’s far from clear cut.

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    alanm 11 months ago

    Hombre Rojo very easy. Jockey owner 60% strike rate horse only up one class winning 6L FAV up 2 classes winning 2 1/4 L 2/2CD wins also Fav change of jockey and only a 4 horse race. Hopefully that’s plenty and it never went to 1/4

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    alanm 11 months ago

    Also I can cash out for a 20% profit now that’s 1/5 without having to anything only press a button. :)

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      Johnb 11 months ago

      alanm it wasn’t having a go it was curiosity and don’t take this the wrong way but Hombre Rojo in his last race beat the top rated horse Manhattan Skyline by 7 1/4 lengths,
      Manhattan was giving Rojo 8lb

      Now Special Season last run, yes it was only a class 5 but you have a line through Manhattan Skyline there
      Manhattan was beaten 8 1/2 lengths so not a lot in distance there between Special Season & Rojo but Special Season was giving Manhattan 8lb

      I see your point about Rojo up one class & Special Season up two classes but has has been 2nd not beaten far in two class 2 races and 4th in the group 3 Autumn Stakes at Newmarket

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        alanm 11 months ago

        Johnb you can read a lot more into a race than I could ever hope to do but what I can read makes me want to back this horse strongly as 4 horse races are also a race I like to take an Fav’s.
        And yes your logic will see your horse win by a mile but I still think it’s a lay and mine has the best chance against it so good luck and let the race begin and if your right I will say well done.

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          Johnb 11 months ago

          I haven’t had a bet in the race as I don’t like backing odds on, but I know a lot of people follow you so I hope I am wrong and Hombre Rojo wins for you and others

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    I’ve taken a look at the 2.40 and I might read this wrong but at the weights the think special reason should win this. It won off 9.7 and now carries 9.2 where as hombro won off 8.13.

    Hombro however did win his race approx 2secs quicker then special reason. but I still think special reason has this but would you want to take 8/11, not on its own but as part of a 12 horse/footy Acca I will. 😃🐴⚽️

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Ps, Alan I’m not saying this to get at you its just my uninformed opinion. It’s an interesting race regardless.

    The more you look at lingfield the more you think there are some good bets so here is my lingfield Acca:
    R1 secret millionaire
    R2 lightsome
    R3 muaithar
    R4 special reason
    R5 God knows
    R6 comedy house

    Interest on a shocker of a day. 😀

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    ciaran1988 11 months ago

    3.40 Lingfield

    Percella 3/1

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    jimron12 11 months ago

    Yankee for interest today 1£ Yankee

    Special season 2.40
    Summer chorus 1.40
    Take the mick 2.00
    Secret millionaire 1.10

    All shorties prob better off with a £10 win accy but hey ho

    0-0 Man U / toon and covered by more goals in second half tonight as I can see it being a bit tame !! Howay the lads!

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    biggee 11 months ago

    One other horse that stands out today is BATTLE OF SHILOH 2.30 Ludlow @11/4 bog. I don’t agree with Racing Post comments re its form in point to points if you delve deeper into this it finished ahead of bigbadjohn on its first outing who consequently won it’s next two races second one under rules beating a Mullins horse Au Quart du Tour that finished 6th in that race the Mullins horse then ran in a class 1 hurdle race and looked all out the winner until falling at the last.

    I’ve been studying this race all morning so I hope I at least get a run for my money :) Gd luck today.

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    11 months ago

    Hi all

    Been no jumps for 2 days and not great meeting today

    Venitia Williams could have a decent day though

    14.00 TAKE THE MICK
    14.30 ONE STYLE
    15.30 MARKET OPTION

    gl all

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    singhsimma 11 months ago

    Im getting some stand out times for these 3 so doing a patent and treble.

    1:10 Lingfield Park
    Kuanyao

    1:40 Lingfield Park
    Discreet Hero

    2:40 Lingfield Park
    Special Season

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    mofield 11 months ago

    Lightsome 1.40 ling NAP

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    Summer Chorus (NAP/NB)

    Here we have a 0-75 handicap where quite simply there are two horses running that are far better than this level,

    First we have Discreet Hero and he has been a big mover in the market, but it’s what we call a false gamble,
    Simple fact is that Hugh Taylor has tipped him and we all know what happens to odds when he tips a horse.
    My view is Discreet Hero is better at five furlongs rather than today’s six furlongs, but he will be good enough to beat the majority of these
    Simon Crisford is still getting to know him after two runs to see how to run him
    I see the horse as better being held up off a fast pace because he does have a good turn of foot and can pick his rivals off as they tire, then in slower run races he doesn’t look the type to make the running but he does need to be raced more prominently.
    He has 112 days off to contend with here and I think that could be a major factor which helps Summer Chorus

    Summers Chorus is fresher have been off the track 60 days and I thought his debut run was quite decent having run very green and only beaten 3/4 length, he led that race and pulled the arms off David Probert, looked well beat with two furlongs to go but I liked the way he battled to get in the end a comfortable 2nd place

    Last time out here over five furlongs he was very keen going down to the start but settled ok but his head was still pulling a little.
    I actually think it’s a good thing today that Oisin Murphy has to ride Lightsome because although he is a good tactician he isn’t as strong as Jim Crowley,
    Crowley be able to settle him a bit better going down to the start as you need to let the horse know that you are in charge.
    he has the hood on with will help during the race and Crowley should have him more prominent than Discreet Hero,
    Summer Chorus does take a bit longer to get going so don’t get worried if he looks like he isn’t finding much, because he takes longer to get going, this six furlongs will suit him better

    Because Summer Chorus is fresher and this race is over six furlongs, this should be an advantage over Discreet Hero although I genuinely think Summer Chorus will be the better horse of the two long term

    I haven’t discussed any others because as I said these two are far better than this level and I would be surprised if they aren’t 1st and 2nd

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    singhsimma 11 months ago

    Well that was a great start :-(

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    chilleden 11 months ago

    Great pick John B. It looked like he might get headed at the end but he stayed on well.

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    caddie 11 months ago

    well done johnb

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    wn 11 months ago

    Brilliant Johnb, had a £10 rfc too, great day where there was hardly anything on!

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    rj 11 months ago

    Brilliant jb lovely drift as well

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    -wato- 11 months ago

    Yes brilliant thanks Johnb

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    Thanks
    I was hoping Crowley would get to work earlier as like I said Summer Chorus does take longer to get going, which is why he looked in a little trouble but I did say don’t worry

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    spursdad 11 months ago

    Thank you johnb.pleased for you and pleased for my betting pot.

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Nice pick JB

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    mig 11 months ago

    Top man john had a few quid on nice drift to 7/2 with bog aswell! Thanks

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    You can all thank Hugh Taylor for the drift in price, you may struggle to get on at his prices but if you fancy one against his tip then you are guaranteed better odds on yours

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    This 2:40 race what I am really struggling to work out is why Lazzam is the outsider of the 4 at 11/1

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    alanm 11 months ago

    Special Season: Bruce Raymond, racing manager to the owner: “Special Season won well there last time and should take all the beating. If he wins well the plan is to take him out to Meydan for the UAE 2,000 Guineas. I would expect the main danger to be Hombre Rojo who I was quite impressed with last weekend.”

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    Just for interest to challenge myself but no bet on the forecast

    Lingfield
    2:40
    1st Special Season
    2nd Lazzam
    3rd Hombre Rojo
    4th Red Rannagh

    But for everyone on here I am hoping Hombre Rojo wins

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Nice one Alan.

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    jamiea1991 11 months ago

    woop woop alanM

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    alanm 11 months ago

    oops I think I called that right :) 5/1 NAP

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    swany 11 months ago

    Cheers alanm,made me a few bob there

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    Well done alanm I couldn’t ever see that happening, favourite has run a shocker but Hombre Rojo has improved

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    bertie 11 months ago

    Fav stank the place out the all wether racing is a waste of time

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    jamiea1991 11 months ago

    johb, got anything for the 3.30 @ Ludlow? x

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    ramey07 11 months ago

    Good banter. Watched with interest. Better than all slagging off

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    meydan 11 months ago

    Good race, was on Lazzam for win/place, thought it was great value, looked like he would cut him down last 1f but Rojo staying on strongly.

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Get in. Might not of picked a winner in my fun Acca but my main bet lands at 6/1.

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    alanm 11 months ago

    Well done on the bob and 6/1 great price was VW myself ran out of steam as they say.

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    jimron12 11 months ago

    Let me in ew 3.40 25/1

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Nice tip by a few on percella. Had a look and bet myself.

    Managed to keep bottom weight effectively even though it dropped a grade again. Made my day that one.

    Good one lads

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    on the bob 11 months ago

    Cheers Rookie. Just seen it was you that highlighted percella. You seem to be on a roll right now.

    Ta ta

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    ciaran1988 11 months ago

    Percella winner at 3/1

    January 4 tips, 2 winners and a second.
    Stakes – 4 points
    Return – 8.33 points
    Profit – 4.33 points

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    linfieldaces 11 months ago

    Biggee great write up for Battle of Shiloh got on it at 9/4 and took alanm’s very excellent Hombre Rojo only was late on it too didn’t get the great prices but two good single bets none the less.Well done lads and keep them coming.Onto the football now

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    alanm 11 months ago

    Well done all winners today Thanks

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    biggee 11 months ago

    Cheers alanm well done you too in sticking with Rojo also johnb and rookie great stuff. Put some winnings on manyoo tonight 😉

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    biggee 11 months ago

    And thanks linfieldaces 😉

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    Johnb 11 months ago

    7 point profit today thanks to Summer Chorus winning at 7/2

    January 2.08 points up

    Wednesday’s Tips

    Chelmsford City
    2:55
    Pactolus 3/1 NAP ladbrokes

    Taunton
    3:10
    Pull The Chord 15/8 NB bet365 hills betvictor

    Kempton
    5:10
    Bamako Du Chatelet 5/1 bet365 ladbrokes

    Also 3x 0.5 point doubles and 1x 0.5 point treble at ladbrokes odds 3/1 13/8 5/1

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    ciaran1988 11 months ago

    Onto tomorrow

    3.55 Chelmsford

    Welease Brian 3/1

    5.40 Kempton

    Good Judge 7/4

    7.10 Kempton

    Bridge Builder 3/1

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    ray_ez 11 months ago

    Well done winners today. My picks not so great but thanks to John my money is safe. On to the footy.
    Regards

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    mofield 11 months ago

    Well done all who tipped winners today,I’ll stick to listening to you guys,it’s a shit days racing but only if you dont come on here.

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