Dec 29: Johnb’s Racing Tips & Chat

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IT was another interesting day on the racing thread and well done to everyone who posted winners.

For the second day running Johnb’s advice rather than tips paid off and plenty were on Outlander at a big price after he highlighted it.

Our man is 50.4pts up for December and hoping to add to that tally on Thursday.

Southwell 11.45
Fern Owl 4-1 NAP bet365

1.15
Affair 12-1 NB skybet

Double 64-1 skybet

Fern Owl

Makes his debut on fibresand but watching his races I feel he will be suited to the surface. Hughie Morrison has an all-time 24% of winners here, 91 from 382 runners but between winners and placed horses his record is over 50% strike rate. In the last 12 months it’s 1 win and 2 placed from 4 runners.

Affair

Another horse making his fibresand debut but like Fern Owl he is trained by Hughie Morrison and is pretty shrewd on the horses he takes there. The jockey is yet to have a winner but looks half decent from what I have seen.

Antepost Tips

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Johnb says: “I have already advised Churchill for next year’s 2000 Guineas & Derby – he has been really impressive this season and my view is he will get even better next year.

“Blue Point on the other hand is harder to call for how he will progress next year. If he trains on then in my view it’s a straight fight between Blue Point & Churchill but in the Derby Churchill is the only horse for me – he gives me the same excitement as Golden Horn did.

“But to answer my question earlier the most impressive horse I have seen this year is BLUE POINT with Churchill and Annie Power a close second and third.”

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89 Comments
  1. Profile photo of theplug
    theplug 12 months ago

    not a good day today but tomorrow is about getting back what I lost today,
    going big on RATNURE REBEL 1-45 limerick 1/1 NAP/NB

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    waxi 12 months ago

    The ego amazing tip for virgin van dyke first goal got 22-1 thanks man 3rd minute as well couldnt believe it!

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    Fern Owl makes his debut on fibresand but watching his races I feel he will be suited to the surface
    Hughie Morrison has an all time 24% of winners here, 91 from 382 runners but between winners and placed horses his record is over 50% strike rate
    In the last 12 months it’s 1 win and 2 placed from 4 runners

    Affair is also a horse that is making his fibresand debut but like Fern Owl he is trained by Hughie Morrison and he is pretty shrewd on the horses he takes there
    The jockey is yet to have a winner but looks half decent from what I have seen

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    jimron12 12 months ago

    Decent day 11/1 winner but a poor show from the other pick love it when a front runner is kept off the pace 🙈 Onto tomo……

    Jack Dillinger 12.50 12/1

    First time hood to eek out a bit
    More and get closer to the very short priced fav

    Footpad 2.30 14/1

    Been in decent form on heavy ground hopefully a spin on less testing may also get
    Him closer to the short priced hot pot

    Singles and a double all ew

    Also adding jb pair for an ew yankee

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    Had a good day out today, been to see this lad and was quietly impressed and there is potential

    Sex: Gelding
    Age: 3
    Date of Birth: 12 May 2013
    Colour: Bay
    Sire: Acclamation (GB)
    Dam: Grand Slam Maria (FR)
    Dam Sire: Anabaa (USA)

    Strong and athletic gelding, a full-brother to the classy King Of Jazz
    This gorgeous-looking rising four-year-old gelding is from the excellent family of Royal Applause, and looks tailor-made to develop into a top-class individual on the Flat or over jumps. 
    He is by Acclamation, a sire of sires with the likes of Dark Angel and Equiano representing him at stud. Very much a dual-purpose sire, in 2015 he was the leading sire by winners and has produced 84 Stakes performers so far.
    Not only this, at the sales this year his yearlings have averaged a staggering £85,000, with one of his highest going for €600,000 at Goffs in September.
    The gelding’s dam, Grand Slam Maria, has produced some talented individuals including his full-brother King Of Jazz. A classy type, he was rated 101 on the Flat competing in some of the most valuable handicaps in the calendar, before racing over hurdles towards the end of his career.
    He is also closely related to six-time winner Fibonacci, who was also placed in a Listed race in France for trainer Derek Meredith. 
    His half brother, Chaucers Tale, by Poets Voice was placed 2nd in a maiden at Newcastle on only his third start as a 2yo.
    A scopey individual with a fantastic temperament, this well-bred gelding could just prove a steal at this asking price. Related to high-class performers, he has all the credentials to develop into a smart Flat or Jumps prospect. 
    He has good bone, clean limbs and is straight and correct and stands at 16H.

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      jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

      How much did he go for Johnb

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        Johnb 12 months ago

        Not been sold yet but at £15k he would make that back easy enough with the right handling, two good years on the flat then off to national hunt racing

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          jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

          That would be a nice price Johnb I would get involved with that if we could entice some more investors.
          How much would it be for training fees monthly etc .
          Sounds a nice venture to me.

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            Johnb 12 months ago

            Depends on who you get to train and on how many people you have

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              Johnb 12 months ago

              Eventually everyone regardless of circumstances will be catered for as there will be Syndicates, Racing Partnerships and a Racing Club,
              The target is 20 horses in the first five years and then 100 in ten years time,
              There is a serious need for something like this to be run properly, I am not big headed, I just know I am good at what I do, it’s confidence,
              It is being run to make the average punter money while having the thrill of having a connection to a horse/horses while also giving back to racing through certain charities with a percentage of profits but also as I said making sure nobody loses out financially

              No horse is impossible to win with, there is a race out there for them all but I do think I have a good eye which has been proved, most recently with Caprice D’anglais who is now looking a real steal

              Looking at mid January for advertising in the racing press

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                Mr Fixit 12 months ago

                You should email admin – maybe something we can get involved in as a site.
                They don’t read the comments very often so an email to explain things to them would be good.

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                  Johnb 12 months ago

                  Will do mr f

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    hamish75 12 months ago

    Hi johnb been lookin at yer write up fir ramoras selections a don’t see much positivity other than hughie morrisons impressive percentage rate am thinkin these horses urr best watched a do hope yer right wi yer confidence ti put them up al jist sit back n watch gud luck. Ktf

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      Johnb 12 months ago

      Not a lot I can say about them as they have never run at Southwell before, just going on my view that they both look with their running style that Southwell will suit them, if they handle the surface then they are both great value and I strongly think they will both win

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        hamish75 12 months ago

        Fanx johnb onwards n upwards gud luck with ur selections guy’s am lookin forward ti heer from harryjw the ego ktf

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    jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

    Rail Dancer
    12.15 ew 16/1
    areutheway ew
    1:15 Southwell
    Captain Lars nap 4/1
    3:00 Southwell

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    teggy11 12 months ago

    Leopard 12.20 katnap 3/1
    Leopard 12.50 battlefield 1/2
    Leopard 1.20 letsdance 4/7
    Leopard 1.55 Coney island 9/4
    Leopards 2.30 Nichols canyon 4/7
    Leopards 3.35 burden life 11/10
    Strong fancy on all these fingers crossed

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      luke a 12 months ago

      Could have saved yourself a bit of time by just stating you fancy the favourite in each of these races. No harm in backing favourites, providing they win. Just rare so many favourites win on the same card. I wish you luck with these selections. I see money has come for majority of these, as most prices I am seeing are even shorter than the ones you’ve quoted
      Best of luck later today

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      punterpounder 12 months ago

      bit silly backing odds on unless they are all in an acca tbf guess you are a newbie so welcome along

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    tipsultan 12 months ago

    Kelso- 12.30 – Blue Kascade- 4/1
    Doncaster- 2.05- Briery Belle -2/1 (NAP)
    Doncaster- 3.10 Adam Du Bretea 9/2 (NB)

    1 point singles and 0.5 point trixie ( total 5 points)
    Good luck

    December- Profit- +76.66 points

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    12 months ago

    Morning all . Only ended up with 2 runners yesterday and both poor .

    KELSO

    13.05 BLACK IVORY .. 9/4 ..

    14.45 MARLEE MASSIE .. 7/2 ..

    DONCASTER

    12.55 WORK.. 6/4 ..

    14.05 BRIERY BELLE .. 7/4

    15.10 LOOKING WELL .. 9/2..

    gl all

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      red devil 12 months ago

      Busstop, sorry i couldnt get back on yesterday i was going to ask do you have 6 points on your nap 3 points on your nb and 1 point on all your other selections? Going to give it a whirl today i’ll only be doing £2 a point though.

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        12 months ago

        red ego i explained this yesterday no points stake to make my nap make a overall profit on the day simple as that

        no nap today so level stakes its simple

        gl

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          12 months ago

          sorry red devil

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          12 months ago

          with the nap have to stake to whatever its price is to make a profit so different amount each time..

          never worked to points never claimed to be a pro tipster.
          but just look at my account balances to know im in profit

          gl

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            jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

            Do you put them into a lucky 31 or something similar or do you just play singles Busstop. .

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            red devil 12 months ago

            Busstop ok, i was simply only asking you a question. Thanks for your reply. The next time you put a nap bet up can you advise us what points stake to put on it to make sure we guarantee a profit? That would be a big help in following you. Thanks busstop and lets hope we get a few winners today.

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              Mr Fixit 12 months ago

              The stakes are up to you. He’s doing his bit by identifying the horses.

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    on the bob 12 months ago

    Morning.

    A few bets today.

    Nap: 12.45 south stand guard 9/4
    NB: 2.05 Doncaster briary belle 6/4 (I took the 15/8 available yesterday
    NB2: 3.00 south red stripes 13.00 (exchanges).
    Race bet: some don’t like it but I’ll happily back a few horses in 1 race. Today in the 1.40 Kelso I’ve backed Endeavour, sudiski star and turtle watch. Most I can win is £70, least is £40 (or nothing if they all bomb)

    GL

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    12 months ago

    Not one of my main selections and certainly not picked on form but while studying noticed this horse

    First run for new trainer .B Hughes on board ,Trained in Worcestershire sent all the way to Kelso. Surely implies its trying.
    Not been seen since April 2015 in an Irish points race .If it was just out for a run why send it so far.

    Like I say form is nothing but seems to stand out for above reasoning

    K 2.15 YOUR TURN 8/1 worth a small dabble for me

    gl all

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    12 months ago

    On johnbs & jimrons today also Our Duke 1.55 Leopardstown 8/[email protected] ladbrokes e/way wee bet for me. GL

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    red devil 12 months ago

    The ego big thankyou for the VVD first goal tip yesterday i managed to get 28-1. Wasnt sure who tipped it just looked back now. Made it a great day after backing outlander at 11-1 advised by johnb. Rare that i have days like that!

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    boing boing 12 months ago

    Black Ivory 105pm kelso 9/4

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    jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

    I was at the celtic match last night and managed a wee tenner on big Eric,at 25/1 also got 7/1 any time.I seen some on mr fixit football site that a few had the double Virgil and Eric. Well done them.
    I always take the defenders now in matches as set plays are critical. Callum Paterson of hearts though now injured has been profitable,though I didn’t expect that a 30 yarder from Eric would be how he scored😀

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      Mr Fixit 12 months ago

      Well done. I’ve backed Sviatenchko a couple of times but not last night.
      Paterson was never priced as a defender because of his attacking prowess but still decent odds.

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    dynamo needarest 12 months ago

    3 from southwell for me today

    13:50 – Mia Tia @ 5/1
    14:25 – Treaty of Rome @ 7/2
    15:00 – Crosse Fire @ 15/2

    Singles and an e/w treble. Gl all

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    jazzerbhoy 12 months ago

    Any stat horse today Johnb good winner on Monday and just touched off on the line yesterday. Cheers

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    alanm 12 months ago

    NAP Captain Lars 9/2 3.00 Southwell
    NB Lady Bacchus 6/1 3.30 Southwell
    EW The Organist 11/1 2.05 Sandown GL

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    12 months ago

    Morning all,

    I managed to recoup some of my losses from the 27th as I made a profit on my short priced double. Both those horses of Willie Mullins are being readied for the festival – keep your eye out for Carter McKay in the champion bumper. Only one small each way selection for me today.

    2.05 Doncaster – The Organist 11/1

    This horse was slammed by my tip (Briery Belle) last time by 46 lengths but the race wasn’t run to suit, I’m willing to take a chance that she can put in a improved effort today. While Briery Belle looks sure to go well again I can’t back her at her current price (no value), the organist how ever who beat her at Doncaster over hurdles looks value at 11/1. She looked sure to win a decent mares listed race at Cheltenham back in April as was 3 lengths clear when falling at the last, that win would have capped what was a good debut season for the organist (listed winner at Doncaster). While she has yet to transfer that form to fences I think the track at Doncaster is likely to suit her better and eke out further improvement. The ground will be in her favour and at 11/1 I can’t resist an each way play in the hope of better!

    Thanks and GL to all

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    wmgy 12 months ago

    12:30 Kelso
    Blue Kascade 4/1

    1.05 Kelso
    Vodka Wells 7/1

    ATB

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    12 months ago

    Hi everyone

    S 1.50 Wind In Her Sails -7/1
    S 2.25 Treaty Of Rome – 4/1 nb
    S 3.00 Captain Lars – 11/2 nap
    S 3.30 Pleadings – 14/1 e/w

    Good luck everyone

    Happy Days

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      earl 12 months ago

      Thanks Alan and Boz for Capt Labs and JB for the nap. Great work as ever and much appreciated

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    ew thief 12 months ago

    Morning all
    Total assets 12.30k 15/2
    Master of song 12.45s 13/2
    Vodka wells 1.05k 13/2
    Endeavor 1.40k 8/1
    Cresswell breeze 2.05d 25/1
    Red stripes 3.00s 11/1
    Ew singles & ew lucky63🍀Gl all

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    12 months ago

    john well done won easy as you like

    happy days

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    spurs55 12 months ago

    how easyyyyyyyyyyyyyy was that !!!!!!!!!

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    spurs55 12 months ago

    i really knew that would win john just knew ???

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    jimron12 12 months ago

    Great start jb!!!!

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    duncanpoundcake 12 months ago

    Nice n Easy Johnb ,I see another Beckett horse up in distance today ,in the 1.15
    Turtle Watch 1.40 for me GL

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    the ego 12 months ago

    testing???

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      the ego 12 months ago

      i dont believe it ive posted LOUCH DERG JEWEL to win the 12pm at kelso 3 times and my post wasnt showing its just won at 9-1 sorry about that everyone. really annoying. anyway i hope u all followed anyway.

      i have a tip for later on ill post it closer to the race time

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        luke a 12 months ago

        Never know whether to take your word for the truth or not haha
        Why are you waiting to name the horse later?

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          Mr Fixit 12 months ago

          I’d suggest he wants the price to hold up if he’s genuine about it.

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          theplug 12 months ago

          in fairness luke the ego put up ticks all the boxes lto well before the race 100euro ew and it won at 9/1

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    azzthewigan 12 months ago

    the conked club 12.20 itstimeforapint 12.30 hydrant 12.45 King Crimson 3.00 well done Johnb excellent start cheers well done all winners yesterday

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    12 months ago

    Johnb. Superb on your nap. Happy Days👍

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    Thanks everyone, highlights the importance of knowing what a horses action means as it can tell you so much how they run, breeding aswell tell you so much and is so vital at Southwell

    Affair also looks likely to handle the surface but drifting badly I think he is running with three legs tied together
    Saying that though Hyland Heather drifted badly yesterday but was in good form and was by far the best horse in the race and should have won so still confident with Affair

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    the ego 12 months ago

    MONKEY PUZZLE 1.30 doncaster 10-1 its off my brother hes been told it has an ew chance today.

    nice start from johnb i didnt back the single but i put €30 on the double. heres hoping

    one tip for the football tonight is villa nd leeds to draw 1-1 im guessing it will be around 11-2

    have a great day everyone

    have a great day everyone

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    theplug 12 months ago

    I think rich Richie have another serious horse on hes hands with benie des dieux don’t no what he beat but the way he jumped those fences was just brilliant destroyed the field

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    duncanpoundcake 12 months ago

    That’s why you have to back all system qualifiers 14/1 in to 6/1 hosed up GL.

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      Johnb 12 months ago

      it’s up to people to look for them, I will post a good system when I see it but if anyone is serious then they have to look out for the systems they like

      I would hope everyone knows that for a system to pay every horse must be backed, it’s not rocket science, it’s like my system, guaranteed profit every year but as I have said in the past it’s no point picking and choosing, all my selections must be backed but some people don’t

      Advice for everyone, keep an eye on Affair in future especially at Southwell because she wasn’t wanted today, nothing could have beat Haraka today but it’s a pretty big giveaway when you are determined to go round the final bend at Southwell that wide and she looked like she was handling the fibresand well

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        duncanpoundcake 12 months ago

        I presume that Boz thought I was having a dig since my post about Dascombe lto winners disappeared .I wasn’t ,it was just info GL.

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    normanstanleyfletcher 12 months ago

    There’s some money for monkey puzzle

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    klums 12 months ago

    3:00 SOUTHWELL

    CAPTAIN LARS
    4/1 MANY FIRMS!

    NAP/NB

    LUMP
    (10POINTS)

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    12 months ago

    Our Duke wins, hope some were on🏇🍺Happy days

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      alanm 12 months ago

      Nice one well done jimba also well done Boz and Klums

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        Mr Fixit 12 months ago

        Looks like another good day on the racing thread – you guys have been brilliant recently.

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    cottweiler 12 months ago

    Cheers Alanm

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    alanm 12 months ago

    cottweiler cheers now for the NB :)

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    Hopefully people will remember my January system which since I mentioned it has produced a profit both years
    I will post again after I firstly check the rules haven’t changed regarding the weights

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    thenewone 12 months ago

    cheers alanm had win and forecast :)

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    theplug 12 months ago

    one for tomorrow
    1-50 Newcastle PARIS MAGIC NAP/NB NO PRICE YET

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    12 months ago

    Alanm cheers bud, well done all winners today, lets keep it going during 2017🏇🍺👍

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    12 months ago

    well done johnb, bozz, alanm ,klums nice naps

    also jimba

    bad day myself and another 2 non runners

    onto tomorrow

    gl

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    hamish75 12 months ago

    Fern owl wins like e

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    hamish75 12 months ago

    A gud fing nice wan johnb cudny bet oan affair goin wi yer write up big market drift another negative a will keep watching fir a gud run then bet next time oot missed a few winners oan the thread wis doin gud Samaritan duties well dun guys Duncan do u have a system. Do u know how papasmurf is doin ktf

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    2pt profit Thursday
    December 52.4pts up

    Fridays Tips

    Newcastle
    2:20
    John Milton 6/1 NAP paddy power

    Haydock
    11:40
    Aliandy 4/1 NB paddy power

    double 34/1 paddy power

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    2pt profit Thursday
    December 52.4pts up

    Fridays Tips

    Newcastle
    2:20
    John Milton 6/1 NAP paddy power

    Haydock
    12:40
    Aliandy 4/1 NB paddy power

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      Johnb 12 months ago

      double 34/1 paddy power

      Laptop playing up

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      Johnb 12 months ago

      John Milton

      This horse is a classic case of the value to be had in buying a racehorse,
      Sold as a yearling for 200,000 Guineas he was purchased recently for £9k and he can win here at the second attempt,
      On his debut he was slow away, ran green and at halfway you thought he was going to be tailed off,
      Adrift at the back about a furlong and a half out the penny dropped and he ran on well
      Big improvement expected Friday

      I will post other write up later

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    Johnb 12 months ago

    Aliandy

    I was really surprised to see this horse wasn’t made favourite as I am struggling to see just how he can get beat,
    The extra distance is only going to help and I can’t see the going being a problem
    Only one winner in my mind but it’s racing

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